Skip to comments.Sandusky case: Silence of the 'gays'
Posted on 08/05/2012 5:06:56 PM PDT by ReformationFan
Outspoken proponents of homosexuality such as those who attack the CEO of Chick-fil-A for expressing his Christian faith are remarkably quiet on the issue of former Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky and the culture that helped foster his abuse of young boys, according to observers.
Are the activists intentionally staying low-key regarding the sexual abuse inflicted by the convicted PSU boy predator, or has their campaign just been too busy to take a strong stand on the matter?
Michael L. Brown, host of the nationally syndicated radio talk show Line of Fire, throws all his chips in on the former, contending the homosexual agendas silence during the trial was no mistake.
To my knowledge, homosexual activists have been strangely silent over this case, and one reason could be that there is a much higher percentage not total number of homosexual pedophiles as compared to heterosexual pedophiles, while at the same time, some of the great gay icons in recent and past history have extolled consensual pederasty, Brown said in an exclusive WND interview.
This, then, is one of the dirty secrets in the homosexual activist movement, and [when] one has this in the closet, one is likely to keep that door closed.
Brown said the stance is consistent with the homosexual communitys role in public schools for years.
Also, since homosexual activists push so hard for Gay Straight Alliances in schools, many of which have clearly introduced younger gay boys to older gay men, it is difficult for gay activists to take the high moral ground when it comes to exposing and condemning Sandusky, the conservative pundit contends.
The American Family Association of Pennsylvania concurs that concealment and silence were key in protecting homosexual behavior at Penn State.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Nothing to see here, move along.
I thought of this the other day, not one word connecting his abuse with homosexuality and the culture of tolerance, access and cover up.
To some molesting children is a higher moral activity than the fast food chicken business.
It is because through some trick of logic, gays have convinced themselves that someone like Sandusky - despite the fact that virtually all his vicitms were male - is a pedophile, NOT a homosexual.
David Badash has said this openly.
They refuse to believe that an adult male who seeks minor males is homosexual. He is a pedophile, not anything connected to them. This is their logic.
There’s a mindset among the homostapo that just because men molest little boys doesn’t mean they’re gay. It’s propoganda like this that convinces me more and more the biggest mistake the APA ever made was in delisting homosexuality as a mental disorder.
The media doesn’t want anyone to know Sandusky is a homosexual.
Gays will tell you that homosexuality and pedophilia are two different things. If they believe that, they should ban NAMBLA from showing up at their events.
The Church molestation scandal was also pegged to pedophilia when it fact the majority of the cases were not that. The research should be done on all the accused over the years and find out their situations. Those priests were gay and let’s stop the denial.
Look up the two meanings of the word ‘pederasty’. It’s all there. It’s not gaiety, it’s pederasty. The world has known it for 3,000 years.
Just a general comment...
Have we come to the point in society that the homos managed to wipe the term ‘Chickenhawk” from everyone’s minds?
Perhaps people should refamiliarize themselves with it. And pass that knowledge around to their homosexual supporting associates.
Nambla has always been part of the homosexual activists, but they don’t talk about it....when asked years ago, they did not deny it is part of the whole movement...makes them look too bad the SOB’s...
Link at bottom:
This hit the media last Wednesday and by Monday of this week
33 college campus locations have called to close their CFA stores. As of this morning the number is up to 40. Two universities will literally be closing by tomorrow. Three critical ones are Penn. State, University of Louisville, and St Louis University...
So much for 'diversity' tolerance and empathy.
And PENN STATE?
Nobody really understands the cause of homosexuality.Most of the science is simply Lysenko like advocacy.There is one study you will never see because the gays won’t allow it. Try performing a study asking gay men the age of their first homosexual experience and the age of their partner.
Despite denial that existed for decades spewing from every media and educational outlet available homosexual activists were often proven to be liars with their own words. Denial of their goals became much harder with the publication of the book After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 1990s by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen.
The following are excerpts taken from After The Ball. Think critically and ponder what they mean and how they apply and effect yourself, your family and the society we live in. Once again, don't just take my comments at face value. Think for yourself and critically analyze what the words of homosexual activists really imply...and where their implementation will eventually lead.
1)The homosexual agenda can succeed by conversion of the average Americans emotions, mind, and will, through, a planned psychological attack in the form of propaganda to the nation via media (page 153);
2) A planned psychological attack? What good and right thing in all of creation has ever required a planned psychological attack to achieve it's goal? Propaganda does not rely on factual data. Propaganda relies solely on whatever means the propagandist wishes to deploy in order to bring about his or her ends. To convert in this context implies that the structure of civilized society since it's inception has been 'wrong' and that homosexuality is 'right'.
3)Propaganda can be unabashedly subjective and one-sided, there is nothing wrong with this (page 163);
In short, the ends justify the means and a lie is completely acceptable method to achieve those ends. Now ponder critically all the ways and means the homosexual lobby chooses to achieve their goals.
4)Homosexual agenda can succeed by desensitization achieved by lowering the intensity of
anti-gay emotional reactions to a level of sheer indifference (page 153);
5)All speech that is opposing homosexual behavior should be banned under clear and present danger to public order (page 101)
6)All and any news or media coverage that is presents homosexual in negative form is prejudiced and invalid (page 54);
7)Everyone comes out must be prepped by a media campaign carefully crafted, repeatedly displayed mass-media images of gays (page 169);
8)Employ images that desensitize, jam, and/or convert on an emotional level (page 173);
9)Gain access to the kinds of public media that would automatically confer legitimacy upon these messages and sponsors (page 173)
10) Stage candid interviews with gays who appear as solid citizens. Subjects in commercials should be interviewed alone, not with their lovers (for now) (page 247);
11) Most people derive their impressions of the world through the national media (page 250);
12) The media campaign will reach straights on an emotional level, casting gays as societys victims and inviting straights to be their protectors (page 187);
13) We like television because its the most graphic and intrusive medium for our message (page 201)
14)Over the long-term, television and magazines are probably the media of choice (page 204);
15)Ads must manage to get the word gay into the headline or tagline (page 207);
16)Each message should tap public sentiment, patriotic, or otherwise, and drill an unimpeachable agreeable proposition into the mainstreams head (page 208);
17)Several years down the road, our tactics will have carved out, slice by slice, a large portion of access to mainstream media (page 213)
18)In TV and print, images of victimizers can be combined with those of their gay victims by a method propagandists call the bracket technique (page 190);
19)The more people who appear to practice homosexuality, and the more innate it appears to be, the less abnormal and objectionable, and the more legitimate it will seem (which is why it is important to maintain claims to 10% of the population)(page 217)
20)Ambivalent skeptics are our most promising targets (page 176)
21)Infer and speculate that famous historical figures were gay for two reasons: first, they are dead as a door nail, hence in no position to deny the truth and sue for libel; (page 188)
Here in a nutshell is the basis behind every homosexual character in a book, magazine, on TV or on the internet. Greater society has been undergoing this 'desensitization' with every commercial featuring a gay couple, show featuring a homosexual character, or 'public service announcement' promoting the 'normalcy' of the 'homosexual lifestyle' while avoiding entirely discussion or depictions of actual gay sex the core part of 'homosexuality.
5)Homosexual agenda can succeed by jamming and confusing adversaries, so as to block or counteract the rewarding of prejudice (page 153)
Jamming or confusing adversaries is doublespeak for shouting down and demonizing any speech, depiction or analysis of homosexuality, painting it with the broad brush of 'prejudice.'
6)Heterosexuals dislike homosexuals on fundamentally emotional, not intellectual grounds (page 166)
20)It is acceptable to call people Homophobic or Homohaters if they do not agree 100% with homosexual views, opinions, or behavior. (page xxiii)
This is an example of the above 'jamming. Classic projection on the part of the writer. This pigeonholes any opposition again into the box of prejudice and allows for no possibility that many people may be opposed not to the private practice of homosexuality, but are opposed to the 'special rights' advocacy and demands of the homosexual lobby itself... among thousands of other possibilities. Thus any and all opposition is silenced.
7)Desensitizing is our recipe for converting ambivalent skeptics;
History buffs will note the successful effect of desensitization by different agenda driven organizations and groups on 1030s era Germany and Japan, 1900s Russia, 1960s-70s Cambodia, Vietnam, Korea, China and even 1800s America.
8)Make victimizers look bad by linking to Nazi horror while helping straights to see gays as victims and feel protective towards them (page 221);
Again, classic projection when weighed against the above 'recipe.' Liberals always accuse their opposition of what they themselves are doing.
9)The Nazi story of pink triangle as a symbol of victimization should be a sufficient opening wedge into the vilification of our enemies (page 190);
History shows that the Nazi leadership was filled with homosexuals who scapegoated their 'brethren' to use them as a propaganda tool. The Homosexual lobby also attempts to link their 'persecution' to the Jewish holocaust as if a sex practice is equal to one of the world's great religions and the basis of all Christianity.
10)Show grisly victimization of gays and demand that readers identify themselves with either social tolerance or gruesome cruelty;
Stories of homosexuals beaten by straight people tend to leave out the genesis of the assault whole emphasizing the result of the freely taken action by the homosexual involved.
Growing up in a small logging town filled with burly lumberjacks, I remember an incident during hunting season when a former high-school classmate who was both gay and a more than 'passable' cross-dresser 'picked up' an unknowing hunter from another town in a local bar. Upon discovering that the object of his lust was 'similarly equipped' to himself, the hunter took great umbrage to being so tricked and proceeded to assault the cross-dresser into a state of medical emergency.
Word of the event, while never making it to the papers, spread throughout a significant area of the state through the homosexual community and shortly thereafter cries of 'Violence toward homosexuals must end!' made the rounds. Not one homosexual stepped forward and admitted that the cross-dresser had instigated the physical assault through his own 'sexual assault' of a straight person unwilling to participate knowingly in homosexual sex. This is one example. There are thousands more.
11)Discourage anti-gay harassment by linking and calling all those that have opposing opinions to latent homosexuality (i.e., call people homophobic) (page 227)
Latent homosexuality is a term coined by the homosexual lobby to attempt to divert attention from the fact that the person involved is not actually homosexual. This is another example of demonizing any opposed to the homosexual agenda as 'homophobic,' a word and concept covered earlier.
12)Jam people by pointing out that its inconsistent with the readers belief in the value of love between individuals (page 233);
Also covered earlier, 'Love' does not require sex, or in this case 'homosexual sex.' Likewise, heterosexual or homosexual sex do not require 'Love.' Again, we see a twisting of the meaning of words and an attempt to equate two very different things.
13)AIDS epidemic should be exploited to increase attention and sympathy as victimized minority.(page xxv)
As discussed earlier, the practical and very real result of this dictate is a contaminated blood supply, dead children/adults and the spread of a plague in order to gain 'sympathy for the practicioners of homosexual sex.
14) We argue that for all practical purposes, gays should be considered to have been born gay, even though sexual orientation, for most humans, seems to be the product of a complex interaction between innate predispositions and environmental factors during childhood and early adolescence (page 184); In short, this is a fancy way of saying ignore the evidence and believe a lie that we tell to benefit us. There is no other logical way to read it.
15)Muddy the moral waters, that is, to undercut the rationalization that justify religious opposition this entails publicizing support by moderate churches and raising serious theological objections (page 179);
16)16) Portray opposing churches as antiquated backwaters, badly out of step with the time and with the latest findings of psychology (page 179);
17)31) All sexual morality should be abolished (pages 64 to 67);
18)34) Opposition to homosexual marriages is based on family nostalgia and sexual guilt based on religious/Victorian values (page 92)
As stated previously, religion is at the core of many people's rejection of the homosexual agenda, so it stands to reason the homosexual community would either try to destroy it, convert it, or co-opt it. Since the homosexual community comprises at best 5% of the total population and significantly less when it comes to adult, activist homosexuals, they are up against an insurmountable wall in attempting to destroy religion. So they have embarked on a campaign to instil homosexual and homosexual pastors in churches throughout the world who preach a Gospel significantly different to that found in the King James or other historic Bible.
Much like they have accomplished with government, this tactic allows them to corrupt religious teaching that has been in effect for over 2,000 years, replace it with a version that now paints them as 'normal' and 'regular members of the religious and secular communities and gives them a platform to spread their agenda. This successful subterfuge (read that gross lie) has resulted in a corruption of every Christian/Jewish denomination and the 'conversion of many to the 'It's OK to be gay school of thought. It has also made inroads into Mid-East and South-East Asian religions as well, but not to the extent of their main target, Christianity.
17)Jam the self-righteous pride by linking to a disreputable hate group (page 235);
18)Gays should be portrayed as victims of prejudice graphic pictures of brutalized gays, dramatizations of job and housing insecurity, loss of child custody, public humiliation (page 185);
23)Heterosexuals are like Aryans and people who are against homosexual behavior are Nazis and Clansman.
24) Homosexual persecution is identical to Jewish persecution (page 57, 62, );
25) Homosexual persecution is identical racial prejudice to Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics (inferring inborn) (page 62, 73);
26) Associate gay cause with talk about racism, sexism, militarism, poverty, and all the conditions that oppress the unempowered. (page 181)
27) Project gays as victims of circumstance and oppression, not as aggressive challengers (page 183);
Human Rights groups have joined as active and willing participants in the Homosexual agenda by classifying opposition to homosexuality as a hate crime. Groups like the ACLU and Southern Poverty Law Center have attempted to equate homosexuality with civil rights as previously discussed. Note however that they don't attempt to 'accurately' link opposition to hate groups, just to link it regardless as a part of their campaign to guide the public's view. Again, as this is deceitful propaganda done knowingly, what does this say about the homosexual agenda, it's promoters and supporters?
18)The main thing is to talk about gayness until the issue becomes thoroughly tiresome (page 178);
Wear your opponent down until they give in. The classic defense when the facts do not support your position. Again, note the sheer volume of homosexual propaganda in the news/entertainment media, music, school curriculum, religion and office discussion you encounter in the average day. Ask yourself if any other sex practice would get such a magnitude of discussion.
Picture the volume of coverage the forums in which it is presented, including your children's kindergarten class, concerning:
Bestiality, Masturbation, Necrophilia, Bondage and Discipline, Corpophagia/'water-sports,' Group Sex, Public heterosexual sex, Pony Play, Foot fetishes, Rubber and Latex fetishes, or any of the hundreds of sub-categories and variants.
So ask yourself why is it that this one particular sex practice gets all the attention? Put aside your uncomfortable reaction to the subject matter for a moment and really think critically about why it's acceptable as a male to have a water cooler discussion in the workplace about the lesbian glorification show The L-Word with a female co-worker, but discussing watching someone masturbate or the best way to mount or receive oral sex from a Pit-Bull is grounds for immediate termination, a lawsuit against the company and the destruction of your personal reputation?
They each involve sex practices. Take away the lesbian aspect and the L-Word is a show about celibate friends. Discussing a show about taking part in a particular sex practice has no functional difference than discussing a hardcore porno about, or participating in any other sex practice.
21)A media campaign should portray only the most favorable side of gays (page 170);
22)Mustachioed leather men, drag queens, and bull dykes should not appear in gay commercials and other public presentations (until later after wide acceptance) (page 183);
23)Associate and link gays to good causes and non-controversial activities (page 219);
24)In time we see no reason why more and more diversity should not be introduced into the projected image (i.e., drag queens, pedophiles, etc.) (page 186);
25)Show others accepting gays and homosexuals (page 241);
This is referred to as biased journalism in the news reporting and advocacy in any other realm. Refer back to the discussion on how far a car company would get with a media campaign featuring two men having homosexual sex on a car hood.
Now ask yourself why the homosexual lobby should be allowed free reign to spread admittedly false and misleading propaganda while denying the freedom to distribute honest, factual data to those who oppose them? Critically ponder in what other realm of civilized society is this acceptable, much less supported and encouraged? And again, what does it say about people willingly taking part?
29)American opposition is based solely on prejudiced, outdated, and hypocritical Victorian morals (page 51)
30)All scientific/medical arguments to prevent 1973 APA/AMA removal from disorder list were rooted in cultural prejudice, medieval knowledge of science/medicine, and misinformation.
Isn't it funny that for thousands of years homosexuality was considered a mental disorder/sexual deviance, but when the Communist/ Liberal Left took control of the halls of academia and openly allowed homosexuals to participate in the decision to remove homosexuality from the list that...shock and surprise, homosexuality was removed from the list and then promoted as a normal, even desirable activity? Especially when the Communist Party openly called for the 'normalization' of homosexuality as a stepping stone on the path to destroying America and made it an official part of it's platform?
Any critical look at this particular situation leads to one conclusion.
27)Two-thirds of all boys have rudimentary homosexual experiences (inferring most teenagers want to have homosexual sex) (page 44)
Take a look at today's 'Emo' scene among teenagers where Bi and homosexuality are a requirement for being one of the 'cool kids. The music, language, philosophy, imagery and philosophy of 'sensitivity and inclusion' are part and parcel of the 'Emo lifestyle. The peer pressure exerted by kids in the Emo scene leave many modern teens with two options. Participate in the 'culture' or be excluded and be left practically friendless. Because of the secular 'de-popularization' and destruction of religious institutions in America (see the homosexual lobby influence on media and religion above) , many kids are raised with a limited sense of right and wrong at best and a situational one most of the time. Combined with the homosexual lobby's 24/7 media and school/educational barrage saying that It's OK to be Gay and the latest It gets better advertizing featuring sports, music and TV/movie stars, modern kids are programmed to think nothing of homosexual sex and become willing participants. One result: The gay porn industry has created an entire genre devoted to gay Emo sex and has profited spectacularly.
28)Vast majority of homosexuals do not engage in compulsive high-risk sex (page 49)
Homosexual sex is by it's very definition, High Risk. This is yet another flat out lie spread by the homosexual lobby that kills people. The majority of homosexuals killed by the AIDS virus contracted it through high risk homosexual sex. 1+1=2. A critical thinker would ask why the homosexual lobby would advocate a deadly lie to the very people for which it advocates? One need only play a game of chess to understand how useful sacrificing a pawn to achieve ultimate victory can be. Leftists, regardless of their stripe, are not big advocates of the sanctity of life (see their belief in abortion and euthanasia) and have the history of famous leftists like Stalin, Mao and Hitler have demonstrated, they will 'sacrifice' millions of their own people, and others to achieve their goals. See also the prior discussion on an AIDS infected blood supply.
30)All homosexually suicides are based entirely on societal rejection (page xv)
A statement which relieves the homosexual lobby from culpability. Except it isn't even remotely true. It seems they forgot to mention all the AIDS related suicides, the suicides over clinical depression, suicides over financial concerns and the suicides over failed homosexual relationships. In this regard, homosexuals are no different than hetrosexuals.
32)Homosexual civil rights are explicitly set forth in the Bill of Rights
Nowhere in the Bill of Rights does it assess sexuality in any way, shape or form. Read it yourself. The homosexual lobby counts on the fact that most people never have and just accept the lie at face value.
33)Health concerns for AIDS prevention are unwarranted (page 91)
How is it unwarranted to be concerned that getting a 100% fatal disease through any vector is unwarranted? Pure absurdity. Yet the homosexual lobby makes many such absurd claims to cloud the issue of what it is they represent and what their goals really are.
35)Adoption agencies have been placing kids with gay people for a long time, as long as you do not bring up the fact that your gay;
36)Groups on the farthest margins of acceptability, such as NAMBLA, must play no part at all in the media campaign (page 184);
So leftists ignored the law to satisfy the desires of homosexuals and as a result, a deserving heterosexual family was denied a child and a child's mental and physical health and sexual welfare were placed in jeopardy. Now, leftists working through activist courts have codified child endangerment.
A critical thinker would ask why it is that a group of people sexually attracted you young/adolescent boys (see 'Chickenhawk - And even younger when considering the North American Man Boy Love Association) would want to adopt them? A critical thinker would also note that the more legislative barriers destroyed, the faster the homosexual lobby achieves its agenda the total mainstreaming of homosexuality and all that implies.
39) Kids in gay households ultimately receive better-than-average parenting (page 97)
According to whom? The answer comes in Ivory tower 'studies' conducted by leftists who openly support the homosexual agenda. As we have determined and they openly admit that they advocate spreading false information and propaganda, a non-biased study and investigation into any such claims is required. But information, regardless of the source is immediately denounced if contrary to the homosexual agenda as they have also openly told us.
What determination does a logical reading of this situation lead to?
40) Gay activists have tried to manipulate the American judicial system. Sometimes the tactic works: many executive orders (which side step the democratic process) and ordinances passed by city councils now protect certain rights (page 171);
Witness Prop 8 in California presided over by a homosexual judge (who hid his sexuality during the trial) and activist courts that have repeatedly sided with the homosexual lobby, exceeding their legitimate authority by replacing the constitutional role of the legislative branch of government and inventing laws where none existed .
62) It will be a sheer delight to besmirch our tormentors, we cannot waste our resources on revenge alone (page 189);
63)Too many Americans share this mistrust of gay citizens (page 55);
I cannot for the life of me understand why.
What frosts me even more are the “social burden” pigs.
They have tried to beat the snot out of us bikers, “wear your helmet you stupid biker, you are “A SOCIAL BURDEN.”
Just damn you IDIOTS. AIDS IS THE BIGGEST SOCIAL BURDEN OUT THERE. YOU CAN’T DISPUTE THAT FACT. QUEERS JUMPING ON EACH OTHER SANS “HELMETS” IS A COST TO SOCIETY OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS!
So to all you social NAZIS, like Mikey Bloomingidiot, and all the medicos who rend cloth over helmetless bikers and people who like a 32oz soda, I say BITE ME YOU STUPID PR!CKS!
When you HYPOCRITES take on the Queer Nation and DEMAND that they all put on a “helmet” before “diving in”, then I MIGHT listen to what you have to say.
Till then, STFD and STFU.
... and let’s not forget all the agigation about how “cruel and hateful” Boy Scout “Homophobia” stops gay guys - some pederasts - from ‘serving’ as Scout, ahem, “Masters”.
Because homosexuals in large part depend on this type of behavior to condition new recruits into their ranks. It’s their way of “reproduction”.
While this guy got caught, many other young people are exposed to this type of direct physical contact (other times it’s through exposure in movies and TV) as a way to “normalize” it and thus make them believe they are homosexual as well.
Have you’ve ever seen a large-scale outcry from gay groups condemning adult/child homosexual sexual or intimate contact? Have you’ve ever seen GLADD officially condemning groups like NAMBLA and the lesbian equivalent for giving homosexuals a “bad name”?
The dirty little secret is that they need this for their movement. Maybe more for their perverted cousins to be more “careful” in the future.
I was in Paris in summer 1996. Every hour the BBC radio news reported that the age of consent for boys in Britian had been lowered to 16.
I’m sure headmasters, senior classmen, professors, and Members of Parliment were breathing a sigh of relief.
I guess there is a connection they infer betwixt homosexuality and pedophilia.
Seem clear to me. Ergo, their silence on Penn State.
My lurking on leftist sites blamed the Sandusky scandal on “power.”
The desire for control and dominance by a twisted man over easily-dominated young men - a psychological phenomenon.
Certainly, they claim, had nothing to do with homosexuality and that was never considered an option
Wow, brilliant, thank you.
“The Church molestation scandal was also pegged to pedophilia when it fact the majority of the cases were not that. The research should be done on all the accused over the years and find out their situations. Those priests were gay and lets stop the denial.”
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Absolutely true. The silence covering another homosexual scandal because sodomy is fine, it’s not a grave damning sin (unless repented of and confessed to God) in these times. Is it “consent” that makes it okay? No!!!!
I’ll keep reminding everyone...
Do not vote for BHO or Mitt, they are both pro-sodomy
and the gravest sin, given their yes to abortion. Obama and Romney have increased abortion as elected officials! You have cooperated, it is a grave sin on your soul if you vote for either one.
>> Those priests were gay and lets stop the denial.
Those priests were homosexuals. In describing homosexuals, the use of the term ‘gay’ is specious.
Very interesting. Thanks for posting, NL.
That book pretty much lays the whole thing out. Since it was written, history has pretty much followed it 90+%.
Look for the scrubbing to start once someone makes it generally known.
Pass it around ;)
All I did was comment on it. They hang themselves with their own words.
no it isn't
So then by that logic God isn’t concerned with the people empowering the people who send him dead babies...
Might want to have a critical thought or two about that position.
Doesn’t matter, his fellow prisoners will know!
it is a grave sin on your soul if you vote for either one.
“no it isn’t”
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Romney has never shown by his actions, he is for life.
If you vote for any legislator/elected official no matter their level of government, who has sponsored a bill, signed an executive order or voted FOR abortion which means to increase it, Jesus mercy!
You have cooperated with their evil and it’s a sin on your
soul. Repent from the heart and confess this sin to
God. Catholics have to do more, they must go to Confession.
“much higher percentage”
The perverted homosexuals claim adult male on boy sex, is not homosexual sex.
total nonsense...you are saying that if both candidates are for abortion rights, Christians shouldn't vote....I don't think so. Ronald Reagan was pro life, he had Republican congresses....why does Roe vs Wade still apply? I FIRMLY believe that we are responsible to vote for Christian principles, but let's not forget that evil is evil, sin is sin, and we try not to catagorize sins by what we consider their order of severity.
God realizes that ALL men have their weaknesses and understands that we vote for the person who we think will do the best job. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.....that won't be me!!
Thank you so much. I just bookmarked this in my social issues folder.
Either Obama or Romney will be president whether you vote for them or not. When you have poor choses always vote for the lesser evil and remember that Romney has to deal with the much more conservative Republican Party then Obama has with the uber liberal Democratic Party. The Democrats will have a great pull on Obama in his second term, there will be no stopping them. The conservatives in the Republican Party, on the other hand, will pull Romney to the right which has to include moral conservatives. Remember that Romney lived and ran in Massachusetts which is an uber liberal state so he had tremendous amount of pressure put on him to be politically correct.
“Either Obama or Romney will be president whether you vote for them or not. When you have poor choses always vote for the lesser evil and remember that Romney has to deal with the much more conservative Republican Party then Obama has with the uber liberal Democratic Party. The Democrats will have a great pull on Obama in his second term, there will be no stopping them. The conservatives in the Republican Party, on the other hand, will pull Romney to the right which has to include moral conservatives. Remember that Romney lived and ran in Massachusetts which is an uber liberal state so he had tremendous amount of pressure put on him to be politically correct.”
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I like your reply, very kind and you took the time. I am blocked, Romney will do just as he wishes once he is President. I don’t want to jump through the “it’s okay, Romney will change for the good” hoop now.
Like you say in your post, Romney played the people
he wanted to be elected by and why he knows he can’t
remain pro-abortion to be elected President.
Doesn’t that irritate you? He’s playing the whole nation
for fools this time.
Romney needs God’s grace (Mormons worship a false God), he won’t change without it. Pray for his conversion.
This is a tough call, we have to pray for God’s grace to make the right decision. Don’t forget all the other offices down ballot, it isn’t only about the presidency. I hope that you vote, even if you finally decide to skip the presidential vote,remember that we need lots of Republicans to offset the monster Democrat machine.
If you vote for any legislator/elected official no matter their level of government, who has sponsored a bill, signed an executive order or voted FOR abortion which means to increase it, Jesus mercy! You have cooperated with their evil and its a sin on your soul. Repent from the heart and confess this sin to God. Catholics have to do more, they must go to Confession
“total nonsense...you are saying that if both candidates are for abortion rights, Christians shouldn’t vote....I don’t think so. Ronald Reagan was pro life, he had Republican congresses....why does Roe vs Wade still apply? I FIRMLY believe that we are responsible to vote for Christian principles, but let’s not forget that evil is evil, SIN IS SIN, AND WE TRY NOT TO CATAGORIZE SINS BY WHAT WE CONSIDER THEIR ORDER OF SEVERITY.
God realizes that ALL men have their weaknesses and understands that we vote for the person who we think will do the best job. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.....that won’t be me!!”
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tery, hi, I comment on the in CAPS first,
There are greater and lessor sins, venial and mortal. Mortal sin, you lose ALL of God’s presence in your soul until you repent and confess to God the mortal sin.
On voting, when both candidates have legislated grave sin, we vote for the lessor of two evils. Do a check
on both men...
BHO - increased abortion here and overseas by executive order, Obama is pro-sodomy, voted in Illinois to kill a baby who survives abortion (twice), non-Christian
Romney - increased abortion with abortion included in
RomneyCare, Mitt is pro-sodomy approving gay adoption,
flip flopped on abortion 4 times in running for office,
Romney is not Herod (Illinois vote) so is he the lessor of two evils? But, being a flip flopper on abortion, how can you trust Romney’s word?
If the “election miracle”, it’s going to take God, does not take place, I am going to write in a name for President.