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Sikh Temple Shooting Suspect Described As Army Vet In His 40's
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | 05 August 2012 | James B. Nelson

Posted on 08/05/2012 11:22:59 PM PDT by zeestephen

He was described as white, single, in his 40s and an Army veteran...[His landlord] said he rented the property to a man he believed to be from Chicago with no record of violence in Wisconsin..."I had him checked out and he definitely checked out."...[A local resident also claimed the suspect] broke up [with his girlfriend] within the last few weeks before moving across the street.

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1 posted on 08/05/2012 11:23:07 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

From Chicago and may have worked for the Obama Campaign and then recruited into Democratic Party Black Ops and programmed to kill.


2 posted on 08/05/2012 11:30:15 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: zeestephen
Sikh Temple Shooting Suspect Described As Army Vet In His 40's

Your headline needs more apostrophes. How about this:

Sik'h Templ'e Shootin'g Suspec't Describe'd A's Arm'y Ve't I'n Hi's 40's

3 posted on 08/05/2012 11:33:01 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: zeestephen

Perfectly fits the profile of Big Sis’ “domestic terrorist”. How convenient!


4 posted on 08/05/2012 11:37:13 PM PDT by montag813
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To: zeestephen

Angry white male....pissed off that President is black....member of the Tea Party....bought guns...etc, etc, etc....


5 posted on 08/05/2012 11:40:15 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Tzimisce

I don’t get it. There are plenty of muslims around, so why does “an angry white male” go after Sikhs?


6 posted on 08/05/2012 11:47:51 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes; zeestephen
Are you looking for trouble?


7 posted on 08/05/2012 11:49:59 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Literals will believe anything.)
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To: Slump Tester

Maybe the girlfriend he broke up with is a Sikh, or maybe she’s now dating a Sikh.


8 posted on 08/05/2012 11:51:04 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Tzimisce

Witnesses at the Temple said there were four men involved in this incident. The shooter was described as in his twenties and with tatoos.

Now the shooter is a dead white guy in his forties, ex-military and a white supremecist. The FBI and BATF have been all over the dead man’s residence, which is odd, as why would they be involved in this if the man’s dead? Neighbors are being ordered not to talk to anyone. BHO2 was supposedly briefed about this incident by 1 PM this afternoon. Sounds like the fix is in, doesn’t it?

Gov.Scott has dispatched Wisconsin’s AG to check out the situation. This is a state of Wisconsin incident, not a Federal issue - unless Homeland Security is trying to create an issue out of it.

This really smells. The true enemies of Sikhs are Muslims. White supremecists are allied with Islamists against Jews. Me thinks BHO2 is going to take a page out of Bill Clinton’s OKC bombing handbook.


9 posted on 08/05/2012 11:51:39 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Natural Born Citizen - born in the USA of citizen parents.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Shouldn’t the “It’s” pan be heavier?


10 posted on 08/05/2012 11:53:02 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: zeestephen

when islamist do violence its america’s fault
when black do violence its white’s fault
when white do violence, its white’s fault


11 posted on 08/05/2012 11:54:33 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: montag813

Subtle, ain’t they?


12 posted on 08/05/2012 11:57:56 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Jyotishi
Here on the east side of Seattle, almost all the taxi cab drivers are Sikh.

Also of interest, we have thousands of Indian software programmers, so you frequently see Hindus being chauffeured around by Sikhs.

More than once I've thought of the humorous irony of two distinct ethnic groups emigrating 10,000 miles, only to be re-united with the same ethnic groups and same economic status in the USA.

13 posted on 08/05/2012 11:59:52 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

LOL!!


14 posted on 08/06/2012 12:03:44 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: zeestephen

Young, working class men: enlist to become soldiers, lose your constitutional rights, possibly have queers as commanders, be hated by government employees, employers and most other Americans.

Our nation is morally bankrupt. It’s become a culture of man-hating and misogamy (family-hating).


15 posted on 08/06/2012 12:04:17 AM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Slump Tester
I don’t get it. There are plenty of muslims around, so why does “an angry white male” go after Sikhs?

No kidding! Unless he is a disgruntled lover of a Shikh gal, or something like that, it makes no sense at all.

16 posted on 08/06/2012 12:05:10 AM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Jyotishi
You want the

17 posted on 08/06/2012 12:07:45 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Literals will believe anything.)
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To: zeestephen

Told the wife very early on this would be the perps description. She said how do you know he will be a disgruntled white exmilitary?

Told her it is really simple, it only took minutes for the LEO to report it was domestic terrorism. No way if he had been Black, Hispanic, ME Muslim or such of the protected victim class, would it have been linked to terrorism.


18 posted on 08/06/2012 12:10:06 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Once I was young, now I am old and the in between went way too fast)
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To: SatinDoll

Tim McVeigh really was a disgruntled ex military white supremacist hater of Edomites and assorted mud races and naturally our Federal government

Slick did not have to make that up


19 posted on 08/06/2012 12:13:10 AM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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To: zeestephen

The grass is always greener on the other side...


20 posted on 08/06/2012 12:13:40 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Hilarious!


21 posted on 08/06/2012 12:16:26 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: zeestephen

Not this guy, right?

22 posted on 08/06/2012 12:21:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: zeestephen

In the article at FOXNews..it seems the Obama team was ready for this..Strange. How did they get on this so fast? FBI didnt evacuate anyone ..just told people to stay inside.


23 posted on 08/06/2012 12:55:01 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: zeestephen
"Authorities would not divulge the identity of the suspect."

Why not? Yet in the same article, the shooter is described as a "white surpremist," "skinhead." In every previous case, we seemed to have full bio, pics, and interviews with anyone who knew the guy, on naitonal TV broadcast within hours. Something stinks about this one.
24 posted on 08/06/2012 1:08:41 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, there’s no way we’re going to be that lucky.


25 posted on 08/06/2012 1:14:44 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: SatinDoll

I doubt Clinton was in on OKC; however, considering Obama and Holder’s culpability in Fast & Furious to the extent they both may be accessories to murder, I would not be surprised at all if the shootings in Aurora and now Milwaukee are part of a bigger false flag/Reichstag fire event.


26 posted on 08/06/2012 1:15:40 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: zeestephen

Two distinct ethnic groups! Please read up on the history of Sikhism. Sikhs are Indian - mostly Punjabi Indians. Sikhism is a religion and not a separate ethnic group. The Brits used the Sikhs to divide and continue to rule India by playing the well-known martial abilities of the Sikhs against the Hindus. Sikhs are Indian. There simply is no such thing as a Sikh ethnic group.

Just FYI :-).


27 posted on 08/06/2012 1:16:13 AM PDT by inthaihill (Living in an interesting paradise - Thailand!)
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To: zeestephen; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; ...

Update on Sikh Temple Shooting suspect

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping.


28 posted on 08/06/2012 1:17:59 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: SatinDoll
This really smells. The true enemies of Sikhs are Muslims. White supremecists are allied with Islamists against Jews. Me thinks BHO2 is going to take a page out of Bill Clinton’s OKC bombing handbook.

Agreed, with this and the rest of your comments. Indian news put the number of attackers at three, but we keep hearing one....the lone nut gunman meme is out with flags flying.

29 posted on 08/06/2012 1:24:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

https://twitter.com/sikhactivist

Info on here, if you read from when it first happened. I found this on the live thread here on FR.

I’m with the group that “something stinks”....


30 posted on 08/06/2012 1:31:18 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Thanks!


31 posted on 08/06/2012 1:38:56 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Dumb luck on my part, trust me. :)


32 posted on 08/06/2012 1:41:59 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: SatinDoll
Believe me, I have overheard white supremicist type talk in the USA. And most of these toothless. junior high school educated, underemployed loser-bastards wouldn't know a Japanese from a Nepali, would not know a Bahai from a Sikh from a Muslim from a Zoroastran. Patent ignorance.

For them as far as I am concerned, this extremely hard core of statist/totalitarian/fascist type national SOCIALISTS/Skinheads, the thing is, they (the victims) "ain't 'Merikan enough". My sense tells me the guy flipped and just want to go off a bunch of "towelheads" (said for context) and it did not matter of course, why should it?, if they were in followers of Islam, Sikhism, Mahayana Bhuddism or what not. Just gun them down at grandom and then go out in a "blaze of glory" though Death by Officer. Chickenshit. I bet all kind of crap comes out on this perp. I sense what is Reichstag Fire and what is not. This does not smack of it. I remember the poor Sikh fellow who ran the gas station in Arizona gunned down mercilessly a few days after 11 September 2001 by some toothless wonder who thought he was striking one for the Red, White and Blue by taking down one of them there "Moozlims. Little did he know Sikh's suffer persecution in their own country at the hands of radical Islams more than anyone can imagine....and then they come to the home of the free to face these kinds of American assholes. Don't get me started on Vincent Chin in the 80s killed with a baseball bat by three drunk/pissed auto-union toughs in Detroit because they thought he was a "jap" during a period of high unemployment. (He was Chinese, fierce enemies of the Japanese in the war and not on too good terms with them anyways). There, I said it. Prove me wrong in a few days. Maybe they were cooking with curry and he was down wind and had just about had a enough. Everyday whacko if you ask me, I don't see any organization, (either false flag/disinfo, or Aryan type) behind such a guy either. A lone wolf and a lone nut. World is better off without him, but too bad all those other people had to die.

33 posted on 08/06/2012 1:44:25 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Donate, & walk precincts, not for "Parties", but for individual, principled "Candidates" (& for FR)
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To: MachIV

Unfortunately, I thought the same. The shooter purportedly came from Chicago and went to Wisconsin, a state with which Obama is obsessed. He ended up shot dead by police, unlike the other mass shooters I can recall in the past 5 years. The FBI got there immediately. Allegedly fits the supposed white radical profile. “Stupid white supremacist kills Sikhs instead of the Muslims he wanted to kill.” All of which pushes the pro-Islamist agenda. Continues to push the “take away their guns” theme, with which Obama is obsessed.

The more desperate they get, the crazier things are going to get. They’ve
never won without knocking out the opponent or - in my opinion - ginning up a crisis.


34 posted on 08/06/2012 1:59:24 AM PDT by Belle22
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To: zeestephen
The media is looking for any ties to Conservatives every time a crazy person kills people. They haven't been able to find anything with these murderers lately, but we might as well give up now if we will let a single crazy person with ties to the TEA party, or some other Conservative movement, destroy the entire thing. The TEA party has been around awhile now, and it's a very large movement that obviously doesn't promote violence, or incite people to violence. But when you are dealing with any large movement there will be some isolated incident involving a crazy person who has some ties, no matter how insignificant, for them to use against all of us sooner or later. If we allow something like that to destroy the movement then we are fighting a losing battle. You can find murderers who have ties to any large group that has stayed around, and it's common sense that the person isn't repesentive of the group.

I am not talking about this guy who they are trying to make a representative of white Conservatives, but who has nothing linking him to any legit conservative group that I've heard of. I am saying this about the possibility that it will happen in the future, and if one crazy person is allowed to wrongfully destroy an entire movement by it's opponents then it's a movement that is too fragile to bother with.

I believe it's time for a nonviolent Revolution in our nation that elects leaders at the state level who are willing to defiantly confront the federal government on unconstitutional laws and mandates that have grown so large they can't be solved within the current corrupt system. If someone goes out and does something like McVeigh it's not something that has anything to do with my ideas, or others who have given up on the current system, and have decided to fight the tyranny we are all living under now. It's obvious we need drastic changes to restore our Constitution, but no one is going out and saying to do something stupid, and it's not something we should have to say not to do because it's common sense. Anyone out there who is going to do something like that will do it regardless of what anyone says. It's no different than believing that the shooting in Colorado wouldn't have happened if the Batman comics and movies never existed. These people will always find something else. What is going to happen when the liberals in the media get their wish of some crazy person who went to a TEA party event years before does something like this?

The liberals are disgusting in their literal joy in hearing about people being killed, and any possible link to something Conservatives. What's sick is that these people would be giddy if they woke up to hear that someone had murdered a large number of people and had been to several TEA party events. Can you imagine their off camera demeanor compared to their fake sorrow when using the incident for political propaganda? The fact is we can't allow for anyone to destroy our legitimate, righteous, and peaceful conservative movements based on the actions of a few crazy people that may have had something to do with a conservative movement at some point, when it's common sense that isn't what these movements are about. It's completely political, and if it wasn't we wouldn't be talking about it.

I support a new revolution in this country, and I don't think we will ever come to violence through the most realistic method for success in achieving that the way most envision, but if that unfortunate outcome ever happens it will be something which is supported by respected leaders who legitimize the actions to enough of the people. It won't be me, or some other unknown civilian, telling you to blow up a bunch of stuff up and go on random shooting sprees, but a leader who's respected and trusted asking you to do things with real purpose. It most likely wouldn't even involve civilians if it came to this. While I think it will be peaceful, I don't think you should support a state to defy an unconstitutional federal law without thinking about the worse possible outcomes, and accepting that with the commitment of standing your ground once it's started. If it can't be known to all that it will cost a price to make the state submit it will never have the power to achieve it's goal, while likely ending peacefully. I also think it's obvious there is no way we will ever get a Constitutional government through what is a broken and corrupt unconstitutional system like we have now.

35 posted on 08/06/2012 2:11:00 AM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (The time for our second revolution has come. It's our Constitutional right to overthrow tyranny.)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Not the first such incident...2000

I don't know if there is any comparison other than happening at a Sikh temple.

36 posted on 08/06/2012 2:14:50 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: wardaddy

I read The Third Terrorist, by Jayna Davis.

McVeigh was a ‘lily white’, willingly used. I’m not going to say much more, I just suggest you read a book written by a journalist who was there and saw things that did not make sense until later, much later.


37 posted on 08/06/2012 2:23:58 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Natural Born Citizen - born in the USA of citizen parents.)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior
Stop and take a deep breath.

Random violent acts involving innocents just aren't the way anything from the Right would go down.

Instead, I'd expect very well organized operations with specific goals, good intel, and a minimum of collateral damage.

Senseless killings have long been the tools of the Left and their Muslim pals, where sheer terror is the objective, not a specific target. It is the 'randomness' of terror which makes it effective as a device for molding public opinion, for getting people to give up their rights in the quest for safety, and that is antithetical to the objectives of people who seek more Liberty.

38 posted on 08/06/2012 2:34:21 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Hello. Glad to see you checking things out at FR, as usual.

This is a thread I’ve followed throughout yesterday. You might find it interesting, though it is long.

At least four shot at Sikh Temple....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2914900/posts

Some things really stand out, primarily that a visiting priest was assassinated. Many have noted that it appears to be a “hit”. People coming and going from the temple originally observed four men get out of a vehicle in front of the Temple. People in the Temple have said there were four men involved in this.

I didn’t know that jihadists shave their heads before battle, did you? That little tidbit came out in this discussion that covered a few hours.

I am interested in your take on this, but as ususal, am alarmed over why the Feds would intervene in what is obviously a crime that is the responsibility of the State of Wisconsin.


39 posted on 08/06/2012 2:38:22 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Natural Born Citizen - born in the USA of citizen parents.)
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To: Tzimisce

Here in SC our Tea Party put a Sikh in the Governors Mansion.


40 posted on 08/06/2012 3:07:26 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("11/10 was the biopsy 11/12 we remove the malignancy.")
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To: wardaddy

McVeigh also supported HillaryCare, making him the first healthcare terrorist.


41 posted on 08/06/2012 3:11:02 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: SatinDoll

When the details of the perp emerge, citizen journalism will go to work with the internet and every other imagineable resource. They (Feds will not be able to do that detailed of a black ops false flag in this case, I am almost certain, what with public scrutiny and investigatory prowess of the peole. It, from the facts I know tday, will be shown to be one lone nut case, who just happened to hate “towelheads” for whatever reason. I think multiple gunmen was just part and parcel of the origian confusion, like the girl in the polka dress at the Ambassador or the man with the umbrella at Elm Street. I for one look forward to seeing the tattoos he had, what they said, and when and where he got them, plus, if former military, the comments of his former servicemembers. Face it. In this country, lone nuts (so far “right” on the spectrum that they fall off the edge of the earth and become “leftist” (socialist/nationl socialist) on the scale) and thefore not part and parcel of Conservatism, are unmovable facts and exist.


42 posted on 08/06/2012 3:29:36 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Donate, & walk precincts, not for "Parties", but for individual, principled "Candidates" (& for FR)
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To: Happy Rain

I thought Haley had converted to Christianity long before her election to governor.
Are you saying that is incorrect, or that her conversion is not sincere?


43 posted on 08/06/2012 3:42:46 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (South Carolinians need to start choosing a primary challenger to Nikki Haley NOW!!!!!!!)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior
The liberals are disgusting in their literal joy in hearing about people being killed, and any possible link to something Conservatives. What's sick is that these people would be giddy if they woke up to hear that someone had murdered a large number of people and had been to several TEA party events. Can you imagine their off camera demeanor compared to their fake sorrow when using the incident for political propaganda?

One of the first things Big Sis said after Fort Hood was NOT to blame Muslims. She was very concerned someone might think a Muslim screaming Allah Akbar might be seen as 'political'. I doubt she's going to express concern about Tea Party members being being judged unfairly. Of course we'll have to wait and see - /s

44 posted on 08/06/2012 3:43:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (...you can't reason somebody out of a position reason didn't get them in to... Freeper Uriah_lost)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I sense what is Reichstag Fire and what is not. This does not smack of it. I remember the poor Sikh fellow who ran the gas station in Arizona gunned down mercilessly a few days after 11 September 2001 by some toothless wonder who thought he was striking one for the Red, White and Blue by taking down one of them there "Moozlims. Little did he know Sikh's suffer persecution in their own country at the hands of radical Islams more than anyone can imagine....

Everyday whacko if you ask me, I don't see any organization, (either false flag/disinfo, or Aryan type) behind such a guy either. A lone wolf and a lone nut. World is better off without him, but too bad all those other people had to die.

You might be right - and you certainly are right that the world is better off without the nut. My concern is how the press and dems are going to play this... it will be used against conservatives. It might NOT have been a planned black flag - but it'll be played for the same benefit.

45 posted on 08/06/2012 3:55:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (...you can't reason somebody out of a position reason didn't get them in to... Freeper Uriah_lost)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior
I support a new revolution in this country

The Revolution is underway and we're winning. Except for mitt, Tea Party Conservatives are being elected and taking over. Because of this, I sure can believe that the left and even the RINOs would back false flag events to try to smear the Tea Party.

Tea Partiers don't commit crimes, engage in violence, or destroy public property, but facts be damned, the media has orders it is all too willing to follow to pin the blame on we "haters" who hate high taxes and over regulation.

46 posted on 08/06/2012 4:00:14 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Senseless killings have long been the tools of the Left and their Muslim pals

And tribalists, and pretty much all "command & control" setups.

I say this based on a bit of websurfing born of idle curiosity. This is a bit off the beaten track, so please bear with me.

Was wondering what "joro, jara, joro" meant in some Fela lyrics, and stumbled upon this quote:

"The clear and undeniable tragedy inherent in these statistics of ‘joro jara joro’ or kamikaze vehicular displays is the inescapable inference of irresponsibility which they create for the leadership, for, it is only an irresponsible person that would willfully step on a car acceleration pedal without any regard to the Highway Code and the safety of other road users. A government that delights itself in flagrantly flouting traffic rules just to show undue kampe-ism is actually demonstrating its inadequacy in office."

Our Official Death Convoys

In other words, the reckless and wanton nature of the killings a) keeps people in fear (thing Maslow's pyramid), and thus occupied with security; b)shows who's boss

For a satircal view of "Kampe-ism"

Obasanjo Launches New Ideology: Kampeism

Anyway, a long way off topic but food for thought, IMHO.

47 posted on 08/06/2012 4:02:42 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: zeestephen

Fox News is saying he is active duty. His girlfriend has been arrested as well.


48 posted on 08/06/2012 4:04:23 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: GOPJ

Suspect is identified as Wade Michael Page. Fox News saying his girlfriend may have been arrested too.


49 posted on 08/06/2012 4:04:54 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: P.O.E.

Thing s/b Think.

I blame spellcheck.


50 posted on 08/06/2012 4:10:50 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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