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Obama Team Believes 3rd Party Candidates Can Help In Battle Ground States
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/07/31/obama-team-believes-3rd-party-candidates-can-help-them-win ^ | 9/6/2012 | WASHINGTON (AP)

Posted on 08/06/2012 6:50:01 AM PDT by longtermmemmory

Edited on 08/06/2012 7:42:35 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

President Barack Obama’s re-election effort is paying close attention to two candidates mounting third-party campaigns for the presidency, believing they could draw votes from Republican rival Mitt Romney and help Obama win a few tightly contested states.

One candidate is Virgil Goode, a former conservative Virginia congressman who is running as a member of the Constitution Party....."


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; bho2012; dncstrategy; elections; goode; goode2012; johnson; nobama2012; obama; romney; thirdparty
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Given the number of trolls, constant danger of trolls, and group like media matters admitting to trolling it seems logical to post as a warning.

Obama does not need more than 50% with enough useful idiots.

1 posted on 08/06/2012 6:50:22 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: longtermmemmory

If I were Obama, I’d be urging Democratic supporters who have maxed out their contributions to donate to Johnson and Goode. I’d also have them donate to Super PAC’s for those candidates.


2 posted on 08/06/2012 6:56:25 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: longtermmemmory

BTTT...quite a few people here seem to miss this.


3 posted on 08/06/2012 6:58:28 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: longtermmemmory

Obama does not need....50% with enough useful idiots.

Hear that,all you Mormon haters? Hear that,all you Romney haters?

4 posted on 08/06/2012 6:59:04 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's Into Child Porn.Release All Your Photos,Harry!)
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To: Zhang Fei

The Democrats did that in previous elections by donating to the constitution party in FL. They even gave them money to run ads in the I-4 coridor to skim votes away from the republicans.

There is a consistent niche of voter who is to stupid to realize they are being played. Johnson and Goode’s motives have to be questioned since they do not even have a snowflake’s chance in hell of being relavent.


5 posted on 08/06/2012 7:00:29 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory


6 posted on 08/06/2012 7:02:48 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: longtermmemmory

Where are Ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney when you need them?..............


7 posted on 08/06/2012 7:03:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: B Knotts
BTTT...quite a few people here seem to miss this.

Well, you know, a lot of people here all know that Romney is secretly worse than the most destructive, divisive, left-wing, radical, pro-Marxist, pro-muzzie, pro-death, anti-American, anti-freedom, anti-everything we all claim to love and support administration ever. /s

8 posted on 08/06/2012 7:03:39 AM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: longtermmemmory

When is Romney going to start his campaign? This better not be it because if so there will be years of hellish Democrat gloating.


9 posted on 08/06/2012 7:03:39 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: longtermmemmory

Mr. RomneyCARE should pull out NOW and save America.


10 posted on 08/06/2012 7:03:39 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: longtermmemmory

I knew this was coming.

If I were in charge of the DNC, I’d be clandestinely funding the Libertarians, Constitution Party, etc.

Some of these parties (The Constitution Party comes mind) have platforms more appealing to conservatives than the GOP. With enough money, they might rack up enough support to tilt elections.

Of course, if I were the GOP, I’d be lending some support to the Greens...


11 posted on 08/06/2012 7:04:11 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: B Knotts
BTTT...quite a few people here seem to miss this.

And these are the very same clowns who,if Osama is carried over the top by winning VA by 1000 votes and that whackjob "Goode" gets 3000 there,will be talking about buying a $4000 generator,stocking up on ammunition and "going Galt".

12 posted on 08/06/2012 7:05:08 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's Into Child Porn.Release All Your Photos,Harry!)
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To: longtermmemmory
The GOP would have fewer problems with 3rd party candidates if they would just run a conservative.

/johnny

13 posted on 08/06/2012 7:06:30 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: longtermmemmory

We all need to keep our eyes on the ball: DEFEATING THE COMMUNIST OBAMA. Not voting or voting third party is really voting for that abomination and voting to turn America into a turd world communist shit hole. Romney’s not as good as we’d like, much like hamburger vs. steak. The choice is a no-brainer when it’s hamburger vs. communist shit, the exact difference between Romney and Obama.


14 posted on 08/06/2012 7:09:38 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: JRandomFreeper

They would, but that is a discussion for another time. We tried, and failed, to get a more conservative GOP candidate. We need to figure out how to do that for the next election cycle.

That fight is over, for the time being. The battle before us is to get Obama out of office. Do these candidates help or hinder that?


15 posted on 08/06/2012 7:10:42 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: longtermmemmory
Romney aides say his supporters are too committed to defeating Obama to vote for a third-party candidate.

That is one of the most pathetic things I've have ever seen in American politics.

Even the Romney campaign admits that folks can't stand Romney - that they're not supporting him per se - but that their electoral hopes lie in the belief that people will be motivated by abject fear.

Astounding admission.

16 posted on 08/06/2012 7:10:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: longtermmemmory

I’m not a Romney fan, but I ‘ll be voting for him.

My take is that it would be far easier remove a President Romney in the primaries in 2016 (if need be) than it would be to undo all the damage the Kenyan would do in a second term.

If we lose any more of the Supreme Court, as just one example, it’s game over.

Sure, some on our side will be able to boast of their ideological purity when they vote third party, but the damage Pres. Soetero does to the country in the ensuing four years may be irreparable. Too high a price to pay for me.


17 posted on 08/06/2012 7:13:19 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: JRandomFreeper

there will always be 3rd party candidates as long as there are suckers too stupid to realize they are being played.

The senate is the key race.

The predident is only going to be “persuadable” the first year after that it is all election distraction.

You could run the most perfect conservative in the entire known universe and there would be a third party candidate funded by the DNC.


18 posted on 08/06/2012 7:13:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: B Knotts
Good luck with that. I think you've been had from the beginning.

/johnny

19 posted on 08/06/2012 7:16:14 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: sickoflibs

Believe he is operating under certain spending restrictions by law until after the convention.


20 posted on 08/06/2012 7:18:22 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

No. I know what Romney is. He is the establishment candidate, for whom the GOP has decided it is “his turn.”

He is not anywhere near what I would like to see in a candidate (although I did think he was a better choice than McCain in 2008).

But, he is the GOP candidate, and is the only one with a realistic chance to defeat Obama in this election cycle.

So, my choice is either support him, and possibly get Obama out of office, or resign myself to four more years of Obama.

I choose to try to get rid of Obama.


21 posted on 08/06/2012 7:19:36 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: longtermmemmory
It's really hard to get the conservative vote for a pro-abortion, anti-gun, socialized medicine, big government liberal.

I'll be voting for the most conservative candidate from the top of the ticket to the bottom.

BTW, calling people stupid isn't going to gain your boy any votes.

/johnny

22 posted on 08/06/2012 7:19:59 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: longtermmemmory
One candidate is Virgil Goode, a former conservative Virginia congressman who is running as a member of the Constitution Party. The other is Gary Johnson, a former two-term Republican governor of New Mexico who is the Libertarian Party’s presidential nominee.

Goode is a New Deal, Great Society Democrat, and Johnson is a radical Liberal.

23 posted on 08/06/2012 7:20:29 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: Diogenesis

24 posted on 08/06/2012 7:22:03 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's Into Child Porn.Release All Your Photos,Harry!)
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To: longtermmemmory

Translation: ZEro cannot win on his own. He needs help from self-professed “conservatives.”


25 posted on 08/06/2012 7:24:49 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: EternalVigilance

It is not astounding. It is reality and the romney insiders know it. The fact is crystal clear. Obama has ALWAYS needed tricks and manuvers. He “clears the field” rather than win elections.

At least Romney is running for president rather than McCain. McCain ran a senatorial campaign for president.


26 posted on 08/06/2012 7:27:47 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: JRandomFreeper
The GOP would have fewer problems with 3rd party candidates if they would just run a conservative.

I've been doing my part to get one elected since Reagan.

Now I'm devoted to denying a racist, crypto marxist, terrorist sympathizing America hating POS a second term.

27 posted on 08/06/2012 7:33:20 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
Good luck with that. The GOP-E has made your task really tough.

/johnny

28 posted on 08/06/2012 7:36:12 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: B Knotts

even with the known flaws of Romney, there is little odds favoring the signing of radical socialist treaties.

We also have to focus on the senate and the house.


29 posted on 08/06/2012 7:36:32 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

While Romney is NOT my first, second, or third choice, better to have him than four more years of Obama. Four more years would be the doom of this country.


30 posted on 08/06/2012 7:36:50 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: longtermmemmory

31 posted on 08/06/2012 7:39:39 AM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: B Knotts
We tried, and failed, to get a more conservative GOP candidate. We need to figure out how to do that for the next election cycle.

The pattern for 2012 was similar to 2008 -- have several 'conservatives' run to dilute the votes. It worked. Even when it was obvious that Gingrich could not win, he hung on. Even when it was obvious that Santorum could not win, he hung on. Neither apparently wanted to give ground, and that gave the nomination to Romney.

Next election cycle? Pick one or two strong conservatives early, and settle on one to take the banner early (as in January or February). That is how a conservative might win. But having half-a-dozen in the debates and primaries only dilutes the vote and gives the nomination to the GOPe preferred candidate. [See GOP history for 2008, 2012.]

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For 2012 I don't see either the Libertarian or Conservative garnering enough votes to make much of a difference -- unless one of them turns out to be spectacular in the next month or two. And this does not appear likely.

This election cycle has not yielded itself to a strong 3rd party. The last major one -- Perot in 1992 -- had money and organization early. Unless the Dems can convince some Bloomberg or similar 'big name' to jump in, a 3rd party is not going to do much for the 2012 election.

To get Obama out of the Oval Office, Romney needs to stay on message -- the economy and joblessness [gas prices are rising again substantially]. He needs to say away from the various mine fields the Dems keep laying to try to get him off message.
32 posted on 08/06/2012 7:43:54 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Zhang Fei
If I were Obama, I’d be urging Democratic supporters who have maxed out their contributions to donate to Johnson and Goode. I’d also have them donate to Super PAC’s for those candidates.
I'd also have trolls working overtime on conservative forums posting stuff designed to dissuade conservatives from joining the fight to get Obama out of the WH.

Actually, I bet they're already doing all of the above.

33 posted on 08/06/2012 7:48:22 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: longtermmemmory

obama “hopes” for a “Perot”....


34 posted on 08/06/2012 7:51:36 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

And you believe O’bomney is different than The One?
You can vote for the socialist left or socialist GOPe candidate.
Me... i’m done voting for the Dole’s, McLames, etc...
And please don’t give me that “you’ll be responsible for reelecting Obama” speech.


35 posted on 08/06/2012 7:51:36 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: longtermmemmory; pookie18

Freefall


36 posted on 08/06/2012 7:55:10 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Red Badger
Well, they do have Barr-Sheehan.

But not enough Democrat drones willing to take the bait.

37 posted on 08/06/2012 7:59:34 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: B Knotts
The GOP has nominated exactly two conservative candidates since World War II ended:


38 posted on 08/06/2012 8:06:30 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: samtheman
See, this is the way Free Republic now works.

You're voting for Romney? Make sure you call those Freepers who disagree with you "trolls" and "Obots" and "DNC moles".

You're not voting for Romney? Make sure you call those Freepers who disagree with you "Mittbots" and "liberals" and "homo enablers".

Way to win supporters to your cause !!

39 posted on 08/06/2012 8:07:11 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: CapnJack
And please don’t give me that “you’ll be responsible for reelecting Obama” speech.

Don't worry,I won't.If admissions from the Osama Obama campaign *itself* can't convince you,what chance do *I* have? Tell me,once he's been given four more years of Executive Orders how much ammunition will *you* be buying? And don't forget to stock up on that disaster food....you know,the stuff that has a 20 year shelf life.

40 posted on 08/06/2012 8:10:06 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's Into Child Porn.Release All Your Photos,Harry!)
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To: longtermmemmory
"Given the number of trolls, constant danger of trolls, and group like media matters admitting to trolling it seems logical to post as a warning."

They're just Freetards. Not smart enough to troll...

41 posted on 08/06/2012 8:22:50 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: EternalVigilance
"Even the Romney campaign admits that folks can't stand Romney"

Is this your new reductio ad absurdum take on it? It's still a non-Presidential non sequitur.

You know, I've figured out why you don't peel yourself off your computer chair and actually work to get yourself on a state ballot -- you would be taking away votes from Goode, not Mittens...lol

42 posted on 08/06/2012 8:30:30 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: longtermmemmory

Based on what I’ve been seeing, Obama is right. Little mini Perots will do their best to reelect him. But they have their right to run for president, for whatever reasons they claim they are running for, no matter how futile and counter productive that might be. They are free, and soon we can all say, “So were we.”


43 posted on 08/06/2012 8:30:30 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Gay State Conservative
And don't forget to stock up on that disaster food

If you are just starting to stock up on ammo and food, you are WAY too late. The GOP-E has tried to destroy the conservative movement for over 20 years.

/johnny

44 posted on 08/06/2012 8:31:43 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: StAnDeliver

This is why this is a fair warning.

We should be focused on purging the Romeny camp of RINO staffers, career staff leftists, closetted homo-activists, and other desk jockeys.

A third party useful idiot is a way to drain talent from the cause.


45 posted on 08/06/2012 8:33:11 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Gay State Conservative

And i wouldn’t be doing the same if Romney is elected?

“If we can’t.’t stand for something, we’ll fall for anything” isn’t that the saying?

I just can’t do it anymore, vote for the “preceved “ lesser of two evils.


46 posted on 08/06/2012 8:35:29 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: pallis

Is it a valid run when the candidate like goode or Johnson is being funded by the DNC directly or through surrogates? There is a point were it is no longer freedom but outright manipulation and elimination of freedom.


47 posted on 08/06/2012 8:35:29 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: JRandomFreeper
The GOP would have fewer problems with 3rd party candidates if they would just run a conservative.

You're a troublemaker! You're one of those damned Republicans who keep insisting that the GOP candidate pander to you! You, you, you ..... panderfiend!

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48 posted on 08/06/2012 8:36:14 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: longtermmemmory
Got any proof that the DNC is funding Goode? Directly or through surrogates?

/johnny

49 posted on 08/06/2012 8:39:36 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Yeah.. I'm a pain in the ass that way. I won't vote for any R that comes along. They have to be pro-life, pro-gun, small-government conservatives.

/johnny

50 posted on 08/06/2012 8:41:13 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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