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CBS News: Shooter Identified As Former US Military Member
CBS ^ | 8.6.2012 | CBS

Posted on 08/06/2012 8:45:41 AM PDT by Morgana

Police set up a command center near the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin where at least one gunman stormed the mass and opened fire on Aug. 5, 2012 Oak Creek, Wis. (credit: Scott Olson/Getty Images) Filed under News, Syndicated Local Related tags shooting, Sikh Temple, Wade Michael Page, Wisconsin

OAK CREEK, Wis. (CBSDC/AP) — Authorities tell CBS News that the shooter behind the deadly massacre at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin Sunday has been identified as 40-year-old Wade Michael Page.

Page previously served in the U.S. military, but was no longer on active duty, sources tell CBS News.

CBS News reports that Page enlisted in the Army in April 1992 and was given a less-than-honorable discharge in October 1998. He was last stationed in Fort Bragg, N.C., serving in the psychological operations unit.

The Southern Poverty Law Center told the Associated Press that Page was a musician in white power bands whose lyrics express hate against minorities and ethnic groups.

Mark Potok, spokesperson for the Southern Poverty Law Center, said Monday that Page had been on the white power music scene for more than a decade in bands including Definite Hate and End Apathy.

(Excerpt) Read more at washington.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: domesticterrorism; india; shooter; sikh; sikhtempleshooting; veteran; wademichaelpage; wadepage
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1 posted on 08/06/2012 8:45:50 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

well hell i havent served since 1980 but, if they wanted to taint the military, they could say i was former military. irrelevent but typival of alphabet news.


2 posted on 08/06/2012 8:49:24 AM PDT by bravo whiskey
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To: Morgana

CBSObama and APObama have now fingered the perp.

How soon before ABCDisneyObama links him to the Tea Party?


3 posted on 08/06/2012 8:49:42 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Morgana

But let’s be sure to ignore all of the Crips, Bloods, and Cholos serving or having served.


4 posted on 08/06/2012 8:53:50 AM PDT by GunningForTheBuddha (DC is like a car full of clowns off their meds.)
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To: Morgana
ABC couldn't find a FReeper or TEA Party person named Wade Michael Page? They must be so disappointed.
5 posted on 08/06/2012 8:54:00 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Morgana

_sigh-well, at last the Che bunch have a perp that fits their pet narratives. But somehow I don’t think they’ll be able to work this the way they hope.


6 posted on 08/06/2012 8:55:05 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Morgana
Former Military.

So what?

D.C. Sniper was also former military.

Then he joined the Nation of Islam, changed his surname to Mohammed and started killing innocent people.

7 posted on 08/06/2012 8:55:05 AM PDT by thedrake
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To: Morgana
I bet he ate carrot's in the last 14 years.
8 posted on 08/06/2012 8:55:09 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: Morgana
The perp was a "Psy-op Specialist" Alex Jones's Head is going to 'splode this morning....

He may have to borrow some tape from Glenn Beck

Beck: Have some Tape Comrade Jones!

Alex: Thanks Glenn what do I do with it?

Beck: Wrap it around your head so this doesn't happen...


9 posted on 08/06/2012 8:58:12 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Morgana
...Page enlisted in the Army in April 1992 and was given a less-than-honorable discharge in October 1998.

Sounds like the army had no use for this clown. I read elsewhere that he was one of these tattooed-from-head-to-foot skinhead creeps.

Good riddance to this scumbag. Prayers for the innocent lives lost and their families.

10 posted on 08/06/2012 8:58:33 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Morgana
The Southern Poverty Law Center told the Associated Press that Page was a musician in white power bands whose lyrics express hate against minorities and ethnic groups.

It should be noted that the Southern Poverty Law Center also thinks that about the majority of country music acts.

11 posted on 08/06/2012 8:58:51 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Mamzelle
_sigh-well, at last the Che bunch have a perp that fits their pet narratives.

Partially. But they also want to pin these acts on political conservatives.

Just because the left maintains the fiction that white power Nazi nutjobs are somehow "conservative" doesn't mean we have to accept their narrative.

12 posted on 08/06/2012 9:02:01 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Morgana

So, he served in the military, and was discharged without good conduct. Also apparently demoted while in the service.

By a curious coincidence, he was a Hawk Missile repairman, who served in Fort Bliss. So was I, and so did I for a while, although he was there long after I was.

NO obvious connection whatever between his military service and this.

Hey, I’ll bet he also went to public school. That’s probably what was REALLY reponsible for twisting his mind. Brainwashing in kindergarten!


13 posted on 08/06/2012 9:06:16 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: dead

That’s a very good point, stated succinctly.


14 posted on 08/06/2012 9:08:28 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Cicero
hope MSM post a pic of his girlfriend...just to see what kind would like all those tattoos...ugh makes me physically ill but then I'm an old lady...
15 posted on 08/06/2012 9:12:53 AM PDT by haircutter
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To: Morgana

Even the lib media knows he’s too far out there to tie him to the tea Party or Republican party. He’s an avowed skinhead neo nazi.

Another bummer for the KOS kooks.


16 posted on 08/06/2012 9:21:21 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Morgana

17 posted on 08/06/2012 9:22:34 AM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: Morgana

Why don’t they call him what he *is* in the headline - not what he was?? Geeze...a huge portion of the population can be called a “former US Military Member”. The only valid point in this might be that he did not have an honorary discharge.

He *IS* a member of white supremacy groups/KKK/skinheads, etc.
(Even though, consistently, the msm puts these groups in the same bucket as conservatives.)

Once again, they do their best to diss our military.


18 posted on 08/06/2012 9:27:32 AM PDT by babyfreep
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To: Morgana
He was last stationed in Fort Bragg, N.C., serving in the psychological operations unit.

Holy crap...he may just be a Manchurian Candidate...run out of DC as part of the under radar gun control agenda.

19 posted on 08/06/2012 9:27:32 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: babyfreep; Morgana
He *IS* a member of...

I suppose since he's dead, in reality...he was....

20 posted on 08/06/2012 9:31:49 AM PDT by babyfreep
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To: dead
Just because the left maintains the fiction that white power Nazi nutjobs are somehow "conservative" doesn't mean we have to accept their narrative.

The lamestream media disingenuously "overlooks" that the Nazi party was and remains to this day a leftist organization. It was strongly pro-union (as are present day Democrats) with Adolph Hitler writing:

As things stand today, the trade unions in my opinion cannot be dispensed with. On the contrary, they are among the most important institutions of the nation's economic life. Their significance lies not only in the social and political field, but even more in the general field of national politics. A people whose broad masses, through a sound trade-union movement, obtain the satisfaction of their living requirements and at the same time an education, will be tremendously strengthened in its power of resistance in the struggle for existence.

Likewise the Nazis of the Hitler era and those of today are far to the left when it comes to the environment and nature. Individual liberty, a core component of Conservatism, is sacrificed for the so-called greater good of statism.

Most telling and it's been oft-repeated here on Free Republic is that the very name of the party is: National Socialist German Workers Party. It has no more relationship to the Tea Party or Conservatism than does its twin brother, communism.

21 posted on 08/06/2012 9:34:21 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: AdamBomb
More here, including samples of his band's music, Myspace page pics etc:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915142/posts?page=119#119


22 posted on 08/06/2012 9:47:24 AM PDT by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favorite tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: Morgana
They are now looking for a second Person of Interest
23 posted on 08/06/2012 9:47:49 AM PDT by Daus
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To: Morgana
FBI - Person of Interest:


24 posted on 08/06/2012 9:50:50 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: hattend

Yes.....I’m sure that’s exactly it...

Is that you Alex Jones?


25 posted on 08/06/2012 9:51:59 AM PDT by hitchwolf
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To: thedrake

D.C. Sniper was also former military.

Then he joined the Nation of Islam, changed his surname to Mohammed and started killing innocent people.


But that was different! sarc/


26 posted on 08/06/2012 9:52:28 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: babyfreep

So he is a radical leftist KKK, white supremisist.

Leftists want it their way or else you die.

He is a leftist.

Like our president.


27 posted on 08/06/2012 9:55:27 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Morgana

CBS is trying to defame the military once again. The fact that he was in the military has nothing to do with what he did, Nothing!


28 posted on 08/06/2012 10:02:21 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: hitchwolf
Is that you Alex Jones?

It might be...who wants to know?

29 posted on 08/06/2012 10:05:01 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Morgana

Indefensible action by a loser and a crazy.


30 posted on 08/06/2012 10:05:25 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Morgana

40-year-old Wade Michael Page


31 posted on 08/06/2012 10:08:30 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Morgana

Page is described as a "heavily-tattooed, 40-year-old ex-Army soldier." Neighbors told Fox News that he had a 9-11 tattoo Press Here

32 posted on 08/06/2012 10:11:32 AM PDT by kcvl
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BREAKING NEWS: Reporter Brian Ross has discovered Harry Reid's name appears as an abortion supporter on a Roe vs. Wade Page on the web. Now reporting that this could mean there is a link between Harry Reid and Wisconsin Sikh temple shooter Wade Page...
33 posted on 08/06/2012 10:22:15 AM PDT by Heartlander (You are either the doer, or the dude)
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To: kcvl

ABC radio just announced that there may be a second shooter involved. More news next break. ?????


34 posted on 08/06/2012 10:28:51 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Morgana
He was in the Army???

SOMEBODY CALL WASHINGTON!!! SHUT DOWN ALL MILITARY BRANCHES NOW!!!

STOP THE MADNESS!!!

EYE ON SPRINGFIELD: THE KILL-BOT FACTORY

35 posted on 08/06/2012 10:36:58 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (John Roberts did more to endanger the lives of Americans than all 9/11 hijackers combined.)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent
CBS is trying to defame the military once again. The fact that he was in the military has nothing to do with what he did, Nothing!

I read here on FR that Homeland Security has been classifying returning vets as potential terrorist threats.

Exaggerating the significance of his long ago (dishonorable) service is part of the continuing political effort to marginalize all vets by attempting to characterize them as extremists.

Also, military benefits are under attack, and taking every opportunity to paint vets in a bad light helps to reduce the public sympathy level regarding the benefit:service bait and switch that Obama and the democrats are trying to engineer.

36 posted on 08/06/2012 10:47:31 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: penelopesire

Maybe the girlfriend? It says he broke up with her, but two people dressed in black were seen scoping out the temple last week, and it’s unclear when this creep and his girlfriend broke up. Or maybe they got back together again.

However, I thought I read yesterday that the girlfriend had been found and was already under arrest, so maybe this is somebody else.


37 posted on 08/06/2012 11:05:16 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Nope it is some dude that was hanging around after the shooting acting suspicious and also had a 911 tattoo(whAtever that means).his pic is on another thread. CNN reporter just described him as a ‘far right wing extremist’. I hate the media. Neo nazi are not on the right. They are socialists!


38 posted on 08/06/2012 11:12:19 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Morgana

The leftist handbook says that guys who go into the military are taught to kill and therefore cannot control themselves.

If only we could ban the military and guns this would be a better world.


39 posted on 08/06/2012 11:13:31 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: re_nortex; dead
The Nationalist Socialist Worker's Party was (surprise!), as they described themselves, Nationalists and Socialists. The only difference between a Nazi and a Commie is that Commies are INTERANTIONAL Socialists while Nazi's are Nationalist Socialists.

Here is the Nazi party platform. Just about every point of the platform is either Nationalism or Socialism.

1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples. (nationalism)
2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated. (nationalism)

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population. (war)

4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman. (racism)

5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens. (nationalism / racism)

6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen. (nationalism)

We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.

7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich. (Socialism)

8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately. (nationalism)

9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties. (socialism)

10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all. (Socialism)

Therefore we demand:

11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished. (Socialism)

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits. (Socialism)

13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts. (Socialism)

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries. (Socialism)

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions. (Socialism)

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities. (Socialism)

17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land. (Socialism)

18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race. (National Socialism)

19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law. (Socialism)

20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State. (Socialism)

21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young. (Socialism)

22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army. (Socialism)

23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:

(a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.

(b) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.

(c) All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.

Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved. (Socialism)

24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race. (Socialism racism)

The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the principle:

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.

The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives. (Socialism).

40 posted on 08/06/2012 11:15:01 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: bravo whiskey
"if they wanted to taint the military, they could say i was former military"

The military can take it. As someone pointed out, the DC Sniper was former military, but his derangement was his own.

41 posted on 08/06/2012 11:18:24 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Cicero

I’ll wager that we’ll know more about this perp in the next couple of months than we have learned about the Kenyan Klown his etire life.


42 posted on 08/06/2012 11:29:50 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (The LEFT's intolerance of the RIGHT is intolerable.)
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To: Morgana

Well, that’s it. News broadcasters and journalists, spokespersons for the authorities, have informed us that the “shooter” is representative of all of us prior service members.

The answer is to bring back the draft, of course, because enlistments of clean-cut young men are going to dive. And the new, post-DADT officers will need plenty of new toys.

[Irony, disgust and sarcasm written all over that.]


43 posted on 08/06/2012 11:30:42 AM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: bravo whiskey

I think his military service is relevant, because the military apparently tossed him out. Tells you something.


44 posted on 08/06/2012 11:41:55 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Morgana
Some information on the band:

Based out of North Carolina, End Apathy is the creation of Wade who previously has played with several US bands including Youngland. EA was his solo creation and over the years he wrote and recorded several songs by himself. This past year he hooked up with Brent and the Definite Hate guys and they have been jamming and recording. End Apathy has now played several live shows and their first recordings are also out now on the split 7" vinyl with Definite Hate released by Label 56 in February of 2011. I am very happy to be working with Wade and End Apathy as they have a great old school hardcore/punk sound to them and remind me a lot of the old California skate bands of the 80`s. You can read an interview with Wade here (*)

(*) Unfortunately, the link to the interview appearing on this site http://uprisedirect.blogspot.com returns a hosted page that the article no longer exists. Label 56 has also issued a statement on their home page, "...all images and products related to End Apathy have been removed from our site. We do not wish to profit from this tragedy financially or with publicity."

45 posted on 08/06/2012 11:55:28 AM PDT by Rona_Badger (Heeds the Calling Wind)
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To: Rona_Badger
I note the May 2010 interview is mentioned in part, even with Q&A excerpts, on various news sites but the full interview in at least two locations has since has been scrubbed.

http://www.milwaukeemag.com/article/862012-MassShooterIDd

I find it interesting how fast this has been handled. If anyone finds the full original interview, could you kindly ping me? Thank you.

46 posted on 08/06/2012 12:11:50 PM PDT by Rona_Badger (Heeds the Calling Wind)
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To: penelopesire

Very strange.

I agree on the media. I think one of the media’s lowest blows yet is that they are headlining that he was a “Former US Military Member.”

It’s disgusting that they are using this as an implied attack on the US military. And that’s even aside from the fact he was discharged early and less than honorably from the Army over 14 years ago.


47 posted on 08/06/2012 1:30:14 PM PDT by livius
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To: Morgana

1998? 14 years ago, and that defines what he is?

Wouldn’t it be just as accurate to say he served in the military under President Bill Clinton?


48 posted on 08/06/2012 1:32:16 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Freedom--tastes like chicken)
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To: Morgana

Kicked out in 1998 (Clinton era) and the SPLC is not an impartial organization.

News on radio has been saying it is a case of domestic terrorism.

All the talking points lined up.


49 posted on 08/06/2012 2:38:29 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: thedrake

The Fort Hood terrorist is still an ACTIVE member of the military and still drawing his salary even though he refuses to cut his non-regulation beard.


50 posted on 08/06/2012 2:41:19 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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