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Tax Scam: IRS Pays Out $3.3 Million To One Lansing Address Last Year
WILX News 10 ^ | Aug 3, 2012

Posted on 08/06/2012 10:18:36 AM PDT by george76

The IRS pays out billions in fraudulent tax refunds, and Lansing is at the top of the list.

The IRS paid out more than $3 million in refunds to one address in Lansing. The IRS has not disclosed that address, but according to a new report issued by the IRS Inspector General, someone filed more than 2100 separate tax returns using that address, and received $3.3 million in fraudulent refunds.

The inspector general says identity thieves filing bogus tax returns got more than $5 billion in refunds last year. The inspector general also says the problem is so rampant., the IRS could pay out as much as $21 billion in fraudulent tax refunds over the next five years.

But even when the government realizes it has been scammed, the inspector general says there's not much that can be done to get the money back.

"The tax thieves or the identity thieves have learned that if they file tax returns early in the tax filing season, before a legitimate taxpayer has the opportunity to do so, they can preempt the legitimate taxpayer's refund

(Excerpt) Read more at wilx.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: corruption; crooks; fraud; idthieves; irs; irsfraud; irsincompetent; irslansing; irsrefunds; lansing; tax; taxes
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1 posted on 08/06/2012 10:18:39 AM PDT by george76
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2 posted on 08/06/2012 10:21:24 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: george76

Please list state as I do not wish to go to the media site to get it.


3 posted on 08/06/2012 10:22:47 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: SunkenCiv; grellis; cripplecreek

These fools want to manage your health care


4 posted on 08/06/2012 10:23:59 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: zerosix

Lansing, MI

So how do the identity thieves know how much of a refund is due? Or doesn’t the IRS check that?


5 posted on 08/06/2012 10:25:30 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: musicman

And Mexican identity thieves won’t be deported so they can keep filing bogus returns.


6 posted on 08/06/2012 10:26:07 AM PDT by Terry Mross (To my kin & former friends: Don't contact me if you still love obama- We got nothing to talk about)
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To: zerosix

The station is in Michigan. The story just says Lansing. I didn’t have to go to the site to know they meant the cesspool (sorry to the 1 or 2 freepers that might live there) known as Lansing MI.


7 posted on 08/06/2012 10:26:17 AM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: zerosix

Probably Michigan.


8 posted on 08/06/2012 10:26:51 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: zerosix

Lansing is the capital of the U.S. State of Michigan


9 posted on 08/06/2012 10:26:51 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
These fools want to will manage your health care
10 posted on 08/06/2012 10:27:29 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: MulberryDraw

You can submit pretty much anything you want to the IRS. It’s only when you get to the audit do they as “is this true?”


11 posted on 08/06/2012 10:29:24 AM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: george76

Maybe we should require Picture ID for IRS Tax Refunds!


12 posted on 08/06/2012 10:30:16 AM PDT by Chief901 (Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend)
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To: cableguymn

” You can submit pretty much anything you want to the IRS. “

E-filing makes that much easier - we’re no longer required to include hard-copy W-2s, so the unscrupulous can fabricate any number they want... (And low-dollar short-form returns have roughly zero percent chance of even being looked at, beyond the arithmetic check...)


13 posted on 08/06/2012 10:35:06 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: george76

These fools want to manage your health care AND, they want to raise our taxes so they can waste more of our money. This is absurd and people are sick of slobbering government mismanagement of our hard earned dollars.


14 posted on 08/06/2012 10:36:12 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Chief901

They could start by matching the name and address to the account the funds are wired to to the information on the 1040.


15 posted on 08/06/2012 10:36:25 AM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: george76

I usually get a small refund, and the IRS takes a couple of months to check it, and sometimes make minor corrections.

So, how do they send $3 million to thousands of fake people at the same address without noticing it? All this stuff goes into their computer system, and it wouldn’t be hard to catch this kind of thing.

Evidently, they don’t want to catch it. They only go after the real taxpayers, and use their money to pay off the illegals and crooks who can be counted on to vote Democrat.


16 posted on 08/06/2012 10:38:39 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cableguymn

Pretty broad brush dude! West Lansing (Delta Township and Eaton County) is pretty darned conservative. The inter-city is liberal.


17 posted on 08/06/2012 10:39:42 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: cableguymn; cripplecreek

You paint with a pretty broad brush dude! West Lansing (Eaton County, & Delta Township) are quite conservative. The inter-city is liberal.


18 posted on 08/06/2012 10:41:48 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: 70th Division

the same can be said about Minneapolis. I call that city a cesspool to.


19 posted on 08/06/2012 10:45:54 AM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: george76
The inspector general also says the problem is so rampant... that half the IRS should be fired for not doing it's job.

The sheer incompetence is stunning!

20 posted on 08/06/2012 10:55:29 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: george76

Our government is incapable of cutting spending associated with fraud.

Our government is incapable of cutting spending on the most foolish and stupid things.

Our government is incapble of cutting spending taxpayer dollars to subsidize activities and economies of OTHER COUNTRIES. Including nations that are not acting as our allies.

Our government is incapable of setting a budget in living within it.

Our government is incapable of understanding the impact of taxation policy on individuals and businesses.

Our government is incapbale of treating taxpayers with the respect deserved. We are not thanked. We are insulted for not paying enough- when so many don’t pay a dime. We are told our contribution (earned from our hard work) was never really ours in the first place- that we didn’t make it on our own, that someone else helped get us there, that while we’re smart, there’s other smart people out there....

November needs to be a landslide. A back-handed B-slap to the leftard marxists to fully understand that they and their policies were rejected by America. To make certain they understand that they have been judged a failure.


21 posted on 08/06/2012 10:59:24 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Can we cut the BS and just say it like it is?)
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To: george76

Didn’t IBM once offer to build a system to eliminate tax fraud, and only be paid for it after it was proven to be successful?


22 posted on 08/06/2012 11:13:57 AM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: george76

The way this works is you get a Social Security number and apply for the “earned income credit” of about $5,000.00 for each return you send. See if you don’t feel like working the government pays you $5,000 as credit for staying dependant. In Florida there were schools where you could learn how to apply. The whole scheme was uncovered when the cops noticed lower crime but criminals were buying new cars with cash.


23 posted on 08/06/2012 11:19:32 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: george76

No software generated alarm for 2100 returns from same address???? Sounds like an inside job.


24 posted on 08/06/2012 11:25:55 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: musicman

Are we to believe that the IRS could not install a simple “alert” in it’s system to apprise them of large refunds being requested at a single addresss.


25 posted on 08/06/2012 11:26:38 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: MulberryDraw

The identity thieves do not need to “know” how much of a refund is due. They simply acquire the minimum identification necessary to file a return, then synthesize a return, file it and have the refund amount directed either to an address they can access or via a debit card, which they pull out of the mail. The IRS may audit the return (or they may not) but that will be at least a year, by which time the ID thieves have moved on. This is an epidemic of activity in Miami and Tampa. Police in Tampa have said that they are aware of organized criminals who have suspended their drug distribution activities and re-allocated resources to this kind of fraud, because the “return on investment” is so much better. The debit card balances are immediately tapped, converted into money orders or other transfers which make the chain of funds hard to trace. A lot of firepower on the streets in the hands of organized criminals has been purchased with the proceeds of this fraud, and the IRS seems not to be in much of a hurry to stamp it out.


26 posted on 08/06/2012 11:38:06 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: The_Media_never_lie

2100 returns from the same address? No business owner with sweat equity would be that stupid........


27 posted on 08/06/2012 11:38:58 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Made In The USA

Are you trying to say that our govt. is incapable?
I would say they are very capable. When it comes to screwing us.


28 posted on 08/06/2012 11:43:35 AM PDT by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: freeangel

I am simply not believing even the IRS could act this stupidly. There must be more to this story.


29 posted on 08/06/2012 11:47:40 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Don't look at me, I don't live in Lansing but I'm thinkin about it.;-)

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30 posted on 08/06/2012 11:49:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: MulberryDraw
Of course, Lansing, MI

We have a Lansing here in Ks, home of the Federal Prison, so it jumped in my mind first.

31 posted on 08/06/2012 11:50:16 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Cicero

Exactly. This sort of fraud would be easy to detect if the govt. wanted to detect it. I wonder if these were Holder’s people (his words, not mine)?


32 posted on 08/06/2012 11:55:28 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Here is a theory (mine to be exact): Maybe there are some IRS agents that are in on the scam. Someone sets up a fake address, IRS agents get in on the deal, and since those same agents would have to check and clear the returns said returns slide right through. Who is going to question the IRS?


33 posted on 08/06/2012 11:56:23 AM PDT by madison10
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To: 70th Division

Lansing is downright conservative compared to Ann Arbor.


34 posted on 08/06/2012 11:56:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
Lansing is downright conservative compared to Ann Arbor.

My experience was that Lansing is a labor town, and you have some percentage of Reagan Democrats.

Ann Arbor is more like Berkeley Calif.

35 posted on 08/06/2012 11:59:28 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: george76

lansing is also a city in Illinois.


36 posted on 08/06/2012 12:05:18 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama - Fredo Smart ...)
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To: george76
This is another symptom of 'quotas'. Instead of hiring the best and brightest, they hire medium, dark and darker. Having dealt with financial fraud for years, it's not hard to detect and block when your employees are competent and care about the job they do. Obviously, that's not the case with the IRS, especially when their representative has an attitude that once it's gone it's too hard to get back.

Time to scrap it and start over.

37 posted on 08/06/2012 12:09:05 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: nascarnation

Even MSU is a relatively conservative school as things go. Still a lot of forestry and agricultural training going on there.


38 posted on 08/06/2012 12:15:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: madison10

There has to be a reason there is no multiple filing software generated flag. I simply cannot think of an honest one. Even lack of competence is not convincing.


39 posted on 08/06/2012 12:19:41 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: cripplecreek

Yes it’s similar to Purdue here in Indiana.

One of my daughters graduated from Purdue, I thought it was a pretty solid place.


40 posted on 08/06/2012 12:27:10 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

Ann Arbor and UofM is the heart of darkness in Michigan. Kalamazoo and Western are the spleen of darkness.

I still say that if given a choice between vaporizing Detroit or Ann Arbor and K-Zoo, Detroit gets a pass. Detroit may be a parasite but its an indifferent parasite. Ann Abor and K-Zoo on the other hand are angry, self righteous, and demanding parasites.


41 posted on 08/06/2012 12:36:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: madison10

There has to be a reason there is no multiple filing software generated flag. I simply cannot think of an honest one. Even lack of competence is not convincing.


42 posted on 08/06/2012 12:49:10 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: george76

Does Charlie Rangel have a 3rd house there?


43 posted on 08/06/2012 1:02:00 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: george76
But even when the government realizes it has been scammed, the inspector general says there's not much that can be done to get the money back.

Yet, I am short the amount paid and they send me nasty grams about garnishing wages and tax liens.

Time for a flat tax and just close down the IRS...save a gazillion dollars.

44 posted on 08/06/2012 3:19:49 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: george76

It is just too difficult to cross reference addresses, cities, states, etc. for duplications.....


45 posted on 08/06/2012 6:45:08 PM PDT by jch10 (Fail to the Chief!)
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To: george76; cripplecreek; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ..

Thanks george76 & cripplecreek.


46 posted on 08/06/2012 7:07:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: george76

And these same fools will dog the butt of someone who busts his tail making a living, sweats bullets over his tax returns trying to get them right in spite of the labrintine tax code and paying through the nose year after year after year.

They look for a persecute for the smallest nit. None will be too small to pick against citizens who work hard at honest jobs and businesses and yet billions go out the door to fraud so obvious it is like a beam in their eye.

Politicians do nothing but work for themselves, their own power, preservation and profit. Working for the people is nothing but a fraudulent activity.

This government sucks. It needs a major makeover built on the original foundation... the one true Constitution.


47 posted on 08/06/2012 9:12:29 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average, they voted for oblabla.)
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To: george76
These fools want to manage your health care

But they said it would save money and lower the overall health care costs and that cost saving agency all ready in place called the GSA could audit them and prove it. /S

I really need to find a larger sarcasm tag...

48 posted on 08/06/2012 9:46:30 PM PDT by SledgeCS (I will vote for Obama when he admits that his idea of a transparency means "You cannot see it")
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To: Uncle Ike

$1570 is a “low-dollar” return?

$3.3 million / 2100 returns = ~$1570.


49 posted on 08/07/2012 7:34:33 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: nascarnation

Purdue/Lafayette/West Lafayette is an anomaly in college towns...

It is a VERY conservative University, with liberal pockets. The focus on Engineering, Aviation, and Ag, with a very large percentage of overseas students, are largely responsible for that.

Ag and Engineering rely on provable facts, not ideology, and it penetrates everything else they do. The same applies in Aviation. You don’t cut corners, or people end up DEAD.

Because of that, Demographics that you would normally apply to a metro of that size, such as per-capita spending, don’t really apply.


50 posted on 08/07/2012 7:35:42 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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