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Rush on Chick-fil-A: The target is Christianity
World Net Daily ^ | August 6, 2012 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 08/06/2012 1:54:12 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch

When it comes to the assault on Chick-fil-A, radio giant Rush Limbaugh says the popular restaurant chain is not the real target.

It's something more near and dear to the hearts of most Americans, and it deals with their Lord and Savior.

PALM BEACH, Fla. – Radio giant Rush Limbaugh says the ongoing national dispute over Chick-fil-A’s stance for biblically based marriage is nothing short of an attack on Christianity as a whole.

“Now Christianity has to be banned, and that’s where this is all headed,” Limbaugh said this afternoon on his top-rated program. “All this stuff at Chick-fil-A, the target is Christianity, not Chick-fil-A. The target is freedom of religion. [With] Obama and Obamacare, the target is always freedom. When we’re talking about liberals, the target is always freedom.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: antichristianbigotry; atheists; brownshirtleft; chicagovalues; chickfila; christophobia; culturewars; homosexualagenda; irreligiousleft; misotheism; persecution

1 posted on 08/06/2012 1:54:14 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch
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To: CaptainKrunch

Maybe Rush will become a Christian over this revelation.


2 posted on 08/06/2012 1:55:21 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

True. I’m glad Rush said it.


3 posted on 08/06/2012 1:55:41 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: fwdude

I think he’s getting closer to seeing the True Light.


4 posted on 08/06/2012 2:06:11 PM PDT by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: AngieGal

ping


5 posted on 08/06/2012 2:08:02 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: CaptainKrunch

It was also to re-frame the debate.

It was ‘traditional family’ vs ‘gay marriage.’

Now, thanks to this, anyone opposing gay marriage is subjecting themselves to ‘hate speech’ charges and any business they may own or run is subject to economic destruction.

A guy in England just today was arrested — ARRESTED — for tweeting a joke about gays.

“Hate speech is non-speech.”

Once ‘gay marriage’ is the law, ANY church refusing to conduct marriage ceremonies for them will lose their tax exempt status.


6 posted on 08/06/2012 2:08:30 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: CaptainKrunch
"the target is Christianity, not Chick-fil-A. The target is freedom of religion. [With] Obama and Obamacare, the target is always freedom."

No, Rush, you were right the first time: The target is not freedom, but Christianity.

There's a difference.
7 posted on 08/06/2012 2:08:37 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: CaptainKrunch

What was his first clue.


8 posted on 08/06/2012 2:08:56 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Christianity has for two thousand years survived the might of the Roman Empire, being overrun by pagan invasions from the Huns to the Norse, internal schism and fratricidal wars, a false desert prophet and his millions of crazed followers, the French Revolution, Nietzsche, Nazism, Communism, Humanism, and the Beatles. If this pack of whining Sodomites thinks it’s going to have any better success than the aforementioned they are in for a very rude shock.


9 posted on 08/06/2012 2:10:51 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Visiting in Summerville, SC, today is the first chance I’ve had to go to Chick Fil A. It was pouring down the rain and I was amazed at the number of people there. Also, I think other establishments are trying to cash in on this as I saw a big sign in an Arby’s window that read “Homos Suck!”


10 posted on 08/06/2012 2:13:22 PM PDT by Jaxter ("Pro Aris et Focis")
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To: katana

Amen! Christianity is coming back strong in Russia, despite seven decades of the most powerful gulag state in history doing everything in its power to try and stamp it out.


11 posted on 08/06/2012 2:13:58 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: CaptainKrunch

If it was about more than Christianity, they would target Islam too

But they dont . they are not just bigots..but cowards too.


12 posted on 08/06/2012 2:14:44 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Now a Chick-fil-A customer . . . God bless Dan Cathy)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Russia and China too”


13 posted on 08/06/2012 2:23:36 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Now a Chick-fil-A customer . . . God bless Dan Cathy)
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To: CaptainKrunch

He’s so right! I read so many comments that claimed that Christians want a Theocracy in this country. Of course to these deluded souls, that means anyone who professes to any strong Christian faith is suspect, when it comes to running for office, or making any political decisions.


14 posted on 08/06/2012 2:29:46 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: TigerClaws
"Now, thanks to this, anyone opposing gay marriage is subjecting themselves to ‘hate speech’ charges and any business they may own or run is subject to economic destruction."

Hate speech laws are not on our shores yet.  The enemy is pushing hard though.  There is already "hate crime" statutes creeping into our laws.  Hate speech laws  are just a breath away.

Obviously the devil is using sinfull homosexuals to get the ball of tyranny rolling here in the U.S.  The free nation of the United States of America is the devil's last obstacle to global tyranny. 

15 posted on 08/06/2012 2:31:15 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch (Freedom is what's fair.)
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To: katana
If this pack of whining Sodomites thinks it’s going to have any better success than the aforementioned they are in for a very rude shock.

Heh, so true!

16 posted on 08/06/2012 2:36:04 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: CaptainKrunch

There are ‘hate speech’ rules in many colleges. There are ‘hate crimes’ but they require some actual crime as part of the charges.

If ‘gay marriage’ is the law of the land, churches will be silenced. “The power to tax is the power to destroy.”


17 posted on 08/06/2012 2:46:26 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: CaptainKrunch

Welcome to the party, pal.


18 posted on 08/06/2012 2:50:16 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: fwdude
That's not the point - the point is that people have a right to their religious beliefs - or non-beliefs - as the case might be. If being a Christian means you can't run a business in Chicago unless you have Chicago values, there's a problem.

Or as one freeper implied, the only way Chick-fil-A could show they had Chicago Values if if they killed a few hundred of their customers every year, taught their managers to steal, and offered jobs to friends who were incompetent.

19 posted on 08/06/2012 2:51:03 PM PDT by GOPJ (..convinced if you put a compass in the hands of a liberal, it will point south -Fr Neveronmywatch)
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To: CaptainKrunch

True—God vs. Man started with Adam and Eve.

Voltaire was the big impetus of removing God from European Western Culture which culminated in the Postmodernists in German who “Killed God”. It is when Europe’s Ethics system went “Beyond Good and Evil” and adopted Atheism—arbitrary “good and evil” constructed by the Elites in power-—like Lenin—then Stalin and Hitler and Mussolini and Mao, and Pot etc.

Whittaker Chambers writes about this culture war—God vs. Man in Witness in 1952 and stated Man was winning——and, indeed, he WON a lot of battles-since even with the defeat of Hitler-—God was eliminated from governments in Europe-—Christianity which shaped all of Europe profoundly and ideology that created Milton, Shakespeare, Leonardo, Raphael, Michelangelo, and Dostoevsky, etc. All greatness was when people glorified GOD, and most evil when Man idolized Man and got rid of God.

Art/Culture used to glorify God in Western Civilization. It made it great. Then in the Weimar Republic and before in other places-—Satan (Man) was glorified and God’s standards of Good and Evil rejected and mocked and reviled (much like Chick Fil A’s ideology is reviled.

Truth is God. Love is God. You have nothing but Hate and Lies without God.

All history proves that—that Virtue is necessary for all Civil society (all economic prosperity, Libertarians!!!) and that without Virtue, you lose all Freedoms. Virtue—as understood in Christianity—is what led to the most perfect ethical system in the history of man—and America. America-—to bring it down-—just has to have Virtue destroyed (God’s Standard of Right and Wrong).

Communists Fronts are the homosexual movement, feminist movement, ACLU, unions, etc....all to target all the institutions which gave families the needed support to create Virtuous children/adults.

To destroy the meaning of God and Natural Rights from God-—will destroy order and create chaos. Rights coming from Barney Frank and Karl Marx destroys Rule of Law-—Just Law-—Justice. Any promotion of evil acts by force of government destroys freedom—and will deliver tyranny. It creates “Rights’ out of any arbitrary thing-—arbitrary law is what destroyed Rome (Cicero).

Added note: How did “Man” win over God, even after WWII? Because they equated Germany (LIED) as being a “Christian Nation”—the land of Luther—but Pastor Bonhoeffer outlined the de-Chritianization of all the Christian Churches in Germany by elitists/atheists of Frankfurt who controlled the Universities and culture. Weimar Republic was putting out filth which was corrupting the youth—which pretty well was completed by the 30’s.

Hitler was a sexual pervert—as were all the SA Brownshirts—the Founders of the Nazi movement (Pink Swastika) and they easily took over the Churches-—because they were shells of their former greatness. The Nazis hated Christians and were occultists/Satanists. But you NEVER hear the sexual perversion of Hitler-—which is well-documented (but Hidden) as the book, Hidden exposes. Why? Because perversion is trying to be normalized to children-—to normalize degrading ways to use the body and debase other humans destroys Virtue and God’s Laws—Christian Ethics. Removes it.

The Truth—about Hitler—and the actual truth about Sodomy has to be hidden-—so lies are promoted and brainwashing is active-—with BF SKinner techniques——of association with children-—they put gay with sodomy—Pride with sodomy—etc. It warps a child’s Worldview and Reality and makes it impossible to understand the Worldview of Chiristianity-—replaces it was Satanism/occultism/paganism,,,,whatever—like it did with Germany. Up is Down. Good is Evil. Homosexuality was the National Vice of Germany in the early 1900’s—they (Homosexuals) had great influence over the culture and the Boy Scouts in Germany were mainly organizations to set up homosexual orgies in the woods with boys.

You may think I sound like an insane person-—but it is the truth—that I have researched over 10 years. Many things keep PROVING how “Right” I am. I have been OUT of Plato’s Cave for a decade-—and Truth scares and frightens people-—it always has. Only Trust in God keeps one sane...... :)

I was in Plato’s Cave soaking up MSM for decades, so I know the “reality” that most people “think” is the Truth. It isn’t. It takes time and work and lots of digging and reading and study to get to the Truth.

BTW, you know when you have the Truth, when the Left attacks so viciously—they are RABID when they hear the Truth. (Satan (Hate) rules them).

Pink Swastika authors have been attacked for decades—way more than the Boy Scouts of America. Truth has a ring to it and Satin is revolted by the Truth and HAS to shut it down any thing that gives the perception that Evil really is Evil.


20 posted on 08/06/2012 2:52:47 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: LearsFool
"No, Rush, you were right the first time: The target is not freedom, but Christianity.

There's a difference."

Oh no, you're way wrong.  Christ is synonymous with freedom.  Freedom is an integral part of love itself.  God gave man free will because He loves man.  Freedom is of love.  Now, the choices men make by their gift of free will is another story.



Jhn 8:32   And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.



Jhn8:36   If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

21 posted on 08/06/2012 2:55:20 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch (Freedom is what's fair.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

I agree with Rush. I’ve been saying this for a few days now. This CFA thing is a poorly disguised attack on Christianity using gay rights as the weapon. Thank you Rush!


22 posted on 08/06/2012 2:59:20 PM PDT by austinaero (Obama or America - can't have both)
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To: CaptainKrunch

“Obama Administration’s War on Persecuted Christians”
by Raymond Ibrahim
Special to IPT News
August 2, 2012

http://www.investigativeproject.org/3695/obama-administration-war-on-persecuted-christians


23 posted on 08/06/2012 2:59:59 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

They’re actually pushing for the concept of “Christians should have no say - because of ‘separation of church an state’”. Therefore any policy driven by a theological point-of-view isn’t a valid policy. They’re going to try and suppress free speech/religion and justify it as “enlightened” - because religion isn’t represented in the government.

They don’t realize that our entire basis of law is derived from Judeo-Christian ethics. They’re trying to rewrite the fabric of American society (”fundamentally transform” - B.O.). Once they throw away marriage we have no ethical basis for any law. By what philosophy do we live? Anything can be justified, and will be. Polygamy anyone? If we have no philosophical basis, what not?

Of course gay marriage is about destroying the church. Does anybody really believe that once they have a recognized “right” to marriage that they’ll stop there? The very first thing they’ll do is march right into a church and demand to be married.

Marriage doesn’t come *from* government - it is only “recognized” by government. It is fundamentally a promise under God, providing the correct context for having children - avoids STD’s and out-of-wedlock children, which throughout history was not tolerable in small societies. They’d die off.

What really amazes me is how fast this is all happening...it was not so long ago, all they “wanted” was a bit of “tolerance”. Now they’re demanding that you, I and God bow to them.


24 posted on 08/06/2012 3:04:47 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: CaptainKrunch

No, Christ didn’t bring freedom of religion.

Quite to the contrary, He dictates the religion to be followed: “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father but by me.”


25 posted on 08/06/2012 3:06:23 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: savagesusie

I suspected it was your post before I scrolled down. Excellent, per usual. I really appreciate your contributions to FR.


26 posted on 08/06/2012 3:11:15 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

DUH!


27 posted on 08/06/2012 3:12:36 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: CaptainKrunch

Of course he’s right.


28 posted on 08/06/2012 3:20:05 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: TigerClaws
> Once ‘gay marriage’ is the law, ANY church refusing to
> conduct marriage ceremonies for them will lose their tax
> exempt status.

This bears repeating as a headline, so let's do that.

Once ‘gay marriage’ is the law, ANY church refusing to conduct marriage ceremonies for them will lose their tax exempt status.

This is what a lot of the good people who support "gay marriage" out of human rights concerns are missing.

Big time.

By the time they realize what has happened, it will be too late.

29 posted on 08/06/2012 3:20:42 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: LearsFool

Absolutely. The homosexuals are not trying to shut down muslim businesses.


30 posted on 08/06/2012 3:26:54 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: katana

What you say is true — Christianity has survived and will survive — but the unspeakable horrors of torture and death visited upon individual Christians can not be dismissed quite so summarily. And it will happen again.


31 posted on 08/06/2012 3:31:17 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Muslims are on the same side of the fight.


32 posted on 08/06/2012 3:32:38 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

And which side would that be?


33 posted on 08/06/2012 3:40:27 PM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: LearsFool
"Quite to the contrary, He dictates the religion to be followed: “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father but by me.”

He gave you the free will to obey or disobey, didn't He?  If you want to choose evil, don't blame it on God.

All that talk about "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", and "the meek shall inherit the earth", and "pray for your enemies", "love them that don't love you, for if ye love them that love you, what reward have ye?" , mercy, compassion, love, truth, etc., is all very heinous to you atheitsts isn't it?

 

34 posted on 08/06/2012 3:45:16 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch (Freedom is what's fair.)
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To: Max in Utah

Opposing Christ of course.


35 posted on 08/06/2012 4:11:03 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Westbrook
Once ‘gay marriage’ is the law, ANY church refusing to conduct marriage ceremonies for them will lose their tax exempt status.

Not merely tax exempt status for churches. ANY solid church can survive that... It will be open season for ANYONE, who does NOT sing the praises of all forms of sodomy.

You will have to rent to perverts, hire them in any position they please....(even as teachers and day care workers), school kids will all be forced to endure sodomy "reeducation" classes, any sort of objection will be treated like "hate speech" or a literally an assault, violent protesters will riot against churches.......etc. etc.

And ALL these things are ALREADY HAPPENING in places like Canada and Massachusetts.

America will HAVE to choose: Gay rights, or, the 1st Amendment. We cannot have both.

36 posted on 08/06/2012 4:34:25 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (reality is analog, not digital...)
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37 posted on 08/06/2012 4:37:54 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: AnalogReigns

Your whole post said very exactly what I have not been able to so artfully articulate.

And this sums it up perfectly.

> America will HAVE to choose: Gay rights, or, the 1st
> Amendment. We cannot have both.


38 posted on 08/06/2012 4:38:21 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

“Russia and China too”

And cuba, just got back from a mission trip and Church growth is amazing.


39 posted on 08/06/2012 4:41:35 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: fuzzylogic

It is fast-—because of the power of the technology and the control over MSM and the public school and textbooks.

They have been brainwashing children since John Dewey-—but the DOE wasn’t established until Commie Carter so it took awhile in the USA than in Europe—to “socialize” everyone.

Media is all about mocking God—creating the proper perspectives-—people who worship God are hicks and stupid (Archie Bunker, etc.) and reinforcing the “feels good, do it” moral relativism that is taught in public schools.

Moral relativism destroys Moral Absolutes—God-—the very foundation where we get our Natural Rights. It is to destroy those rights and make man, god—so they can decide what is Right and Wrong and eject the Bible.

It is all about power to control exactly what you can think...that is what our “free press” is doing-—forcing perceptions—that Evil is Good and Good is Evil. (Chick Fil A is evil—and sodomizing others is Good”)

Of course, to accomplish flipping morality like they are doing in our children-—they fill their heads with nonsense and distract them with sex, etc. and keep the Truth from them-—like the ideas of Adam Smith, John Locke, etc.
so they believe any Marxist Lie-—because without God and Knowledge-—there is no Truth or Good and Evil other that the Masters dictate.

Knowledge and Virtue are vital to freedom. Without those two thing—and they require the Bible-—you will have tyranny and evil reign. It is the history of the world. USA was an exception-—it was founded in The Age of Reason before the Postmodernists kicked out God. They rejected the French Revolution’s vision of the world without God. I read about the evil that occurred by the godless elites-—they were more inhumane and did evil things to headless bodies that would make Dahmer blush. Satanists/homosexualists degrade and defile.....it is all about lust and hating God’s Design of the human body.


40 posted on 08/06/2012 5:00:10 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: steve86

I hope I did not come across as “dismissing” it. In fact as the list indicates it is part of the deal. “They” will hate us for His sake. I guess the point I was trying to make is that in comparison with past (and one or two current) oppressors the bunch waving signs outside CFA restaurants, and the cretin politicians supporting them, are laughable. Evil to the core but far less strong than they pretend or imagine.


41 posted on 08/06/2012 5:02:07 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: CaptainKrunch
He gave you the free will to obey or disobey, didn't He?

Why of course He did. But "obey or disobey" what? There can be no obedience nor disobedience without a command.

I think maybe you're confusing "free will" with "freedom of religion". One is given by God, the other by men.

Did Jesus' apostles have freedom of religion? They were ordered by the government to shut up. There were lots of different religions practiced freely in the Roman world, but Christianity is the one people wanted shut down.

Then as now, some want freedom of religion so they can follow Christ freely, while others simply want Christians to shut up - not because they don't like freedom of religion, but because they hate Christianity.
42 posted on 08/06/2012 5:05:40 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: pops88

You make my day-—it takes a lot of time to post-—but only Freepers are worth this expenditure of time. I have learned a lot on this site, like no other.

Most Freepers have a firm grasp of reality and I try to share all that I have been reading—since God has given me so much free time in the last 5 years. :)

I am learning-—constantly—and things get clearer , the more I pursue ideas, even typing here helps with that clarity. It is partly why I do it, so it is not entirely selfless.

I am now studying Plato again and DARN!!!!! If a WHOLE, NEW , UNIQUE thought didn’t occur to me!!! Connects the past with today!!!!! I will share it when I get it formulated and completely understood. It is so fascinating and challenging!!!!!!

I understand exactly what Socrates had stated about the pursuit of “Wisdom”. It is exhilarating and my greatest pleasure at the moment-— and I have not had so much fun in my entire life. (My life has always been envied by many, although I try to be humble and generous and kind. People understand so little of God’s great Love for them. :)


43 posted on 08/06/2012 5:21:08 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: LearsFool
"I think maybe you're confusing "free will" with "freedom of religion". One is given by God, the other by men."

It's kind of a circular argument, but I get the point your're trying to make.  However, it could be argued that since God wants men to have the freedom to choose, then it's the work of God that we have freedom of religion anywhere in this world, by way of his willing servants, rather than some unilateral decree of men. 

Your statement here is fallacious:

"Quite to the contrary, He dictates the religion to be followed: “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father but by me.”

That's neither a commandment, nor a dictate, that's merely a statement of truth in the context of that verse.  The inference is that we will not be joined with the Father in Heaven without following Christ.  You can twist Christ's statment into a threat there if you wish.  I simply take it as a statement of truth... and advise born of love. 

 

44 posted on 08/06/2012 7:14:22 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch (Freedom is what's fair.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

I assumed we were in agreement on man’s duty to serve his Creator. We have such a duty, and Jesus states in no uncertain terms that this duty is fulfilled only by becoming His disciples.

Neither Mohammed’s, nor Buddha’s, nor Ceasar’s, but only Christ’s disciples are obedient to God. Freedom of religion may allow us to choose with earthly impunity, but it is Jesus who has authority to dictate our choice. And while freedom of religion merely preserves followers of Christ from punishment government might bring upon them, we Americans have elevated it to a position of near-equality with His commands.

We’re instructed to pray for political circumstances which will allow us to serve Him in peace and the gospel to be spread freely - which points up the true purpose of freedom of religion as a means to an end, and not an end in itself.

If nothing else, these recent attacks on Christianity have served to illustrate the point that it is not freedom of religion which the wicked hate, but Christianity.


45 posted on 08/06/2012 8:07:53 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: CaptainKrunch

Let me add to my last post:

If nothing else, these recent attacks on Christianity have served to illustrate the point that it is not freedom of religion which the wicked hate, but Christianity - just as the recent reaction to Dan Cathy’s statement illustrate that it is not freedom of speech that is under attack, but speech that is from the Word of God.

When we defend freedom of speech and freedom of religion, we’re defending the wrong ground.


46 posted on 08/06/2012 8:13:53 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool
"but it is Jesus who has authority to dictate our choice."

You keep using the word "dictate" in connection with Jesus, repeatedly .  Funny, I've been a Christian for 28 years, and the word dictate or dictator never once popped into my head when pondering Christ, his words, or his commandments. 

You otherwise speak the speak of a Christian, but something is not right.  It is obvious to me that you want to instigate an association between Christ and the term dictate, which further infers dictator and the connotations thereof.  I could be wrong, but I suspect that you're a former Christian that fell away into atheism, and that now you have an axe to grind.  Wrong or not, I reject your blasphemous word association game.  

 

47 posted on 08/07/2012 1:50:56 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch (Freedom is what's fair.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Your objection to the term “dictate” is interesting, but it’s not a sticking point for me. The synonym “command” works just as well.

And instead of “dictator”, how about “king”? Or “lord”? Or “master”?

If I refer to Christians as “slaves”, will that present a problem? That’s Paul’s word.

Living in a democratic and self-governing earthly nation, we have a tendency to forget that we are subjects under a king, slaves under a master, serfs under a lord. There is no “we the people” in Christ’s kingdom.

And lest you think I’m painting a one-sided portrait of this relationship...Yes, our Master grants us freedom unknown, that our King gives us positions of greatest honor in His kingdom, that His Father adopts us as Sons.

But it is by humbling ourselves and submitting to Jesus’ “dictates” that we will be exalted and glorified. (Perhaps I subconsciously chose that word because it conveys the absolute power and authority we Americans tend to stiffen our wills against.)


48 posted on 08/07/2012 3:27:42 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: CaptainKrunch

bflr


49 posted on 08/07/2012 3:36:11 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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