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State Department tries to smooth ties with India after Wisconsin massacre
thecable.foreignpolicy.com ^

Posted on 08/06/2012 4:08:23 PM PDT by tsowellfan

Drudge Title: India Blames White House For Shooting

Top State Department officials including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have been working behind the scenes to assuage Indian anger following the attack on a Sikh temple in Wisconsin over the weekend by an Army veteran and alleged former white supremacist.

Indian government officials and Sikh leaders across India were outraged by the attack that left 6 dead, including 4 Indian nationals, at a Sikh temple near Milwaukee and called on the U.S. to do more to protect Sikhs living in the United Sates. Clinton called Indian Foreign Minister S.M. Krishna from her stop in South Africa Monday after Krishna criticized the U.S. for failed policies and a growing trend of violent incidents against religious minorities...

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1 posted on 08/06/2012 4:08:36 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

Does that same “smoothing” go both ways? Mmmm, need to think long and hard about that one.


2 posted on 08/06/2012 4:13:04 PM PDT by Mister Anderson (Give them nothing, but take from them everything!)
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To: tsowellfan

Could be India hasn’t forgotten Marxists(socialists,fascists, and nazis) murdered about 200 to 300 million people last century and not only that but made multiplied BILLIONS miserable..

And they surely know this administration are stone flaming Marxists..
Could be they are not fooled AT ALL.. there is malfeasance afoote..


3 posted on 08/06/2012 4:16:12 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: tsowellfan
Indian government officials ... called on the U.S. to do more to protect Sikhs living in the United Sates.

Conservative 2nd Amendment groups in the Milwaukee region should educate themselves on the Sikhs and reach out to this neighborhood on the subject of conceal carry.

4 posted on 08/06/2012 4:18:55 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: tsowellfan

Are there any allies this administration has not alienated?


5 posted on 08/06/2012 4:19:42 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1294 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: tsowellfan; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; ...

India blaming Obama Administration for Sikh Temple Massacre

What????

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


6 posted on 08/06/2012 4:22:10 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: tsowellfan
officials and Sikh leaders across India were outraged by the attack that left 6 dead, including 4 Indian nationals, at a Sikh temple near Milwaukee and called on the U.S. to do more to protect Sikhs living in the United Sates.

here's a novel idea, take personal responsibility for your own protection because the government can't do a damn thing to protect you. They can only prosecute your murderer, they can't stop him... no matter what your liberal friends might tell you.

7 posted on 08/06/2012 4:22:24 PM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: tsowellfan

Obama coud care less about Indians or India. He stokes and fervents racial and cultural divide, hoping to create incidents like Ft. Hood, Aurora, Tucson & Wisconsin, etc. Think Hitler Germany in the 1930s and you will be right on target!!! You good folks of India should get a little history lesson from the Muslim Mufti’s & Hitler’s Nazi rabble rousers working together to create divisions among the races. Obama, the Muslim America hater & Hilter the Nazi murderer of Jews, Gypsies, Catholics, the infirm, the mentally ill, the political opposition. Obama & Hitler, two birds of a feather. Wake up, America!!!


8 posted on 08/06/2012 4:24:23 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: tsowellfan
This is a foreign policy issue now?

How about India just take in all the Sikhs if they are so concerned

I'm sure they would live forever there.

9 posted on 08/06/2012 4:26:14 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: RC one

Agreed. I get sick of hearing about how “outraged” foreigners are about our crime rate. If the U.S. is so damned bad, STAY HOME!


10 posted on 08/06/2012 4:27:51 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: tsowellfan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_India


11 posted on 08/06/2012 4:31:45 PM PDT by wolficatZ ("We are no longer accepting comments on this article")
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To: tsowellfan

WTF??? Do we get apologies when Christians are killed in India?

Are the Sikhs in Wisconsin U.S. citizens or Indian?

Give me a freakin break.


12 posted on 08/06/2012 4:32:46 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: tsowellfan

screw those Indians. Let’s kill all their buffalo (water) burn their food supply, kill their horses, and as many of them as we can and who ever is left, move them on to reservations and take all their land. Hey....it worked here. Oh, and do not let them build any Casinos, our one mistake. (in case you don’t get it, it’s sarcasm) I’m American Indian.


13 posted on 08/06/2012 4:34:46 PM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: tsowellfan

These Indians are not Muslim/islamic believers, so I doubt Hussein cares what happens to them. The ones wounded who were Indian nationals, perhaps should go home.

This country isn’t safe for Christians of any denominaton, and any person who has a conservative thought.

Prepare.


14 posted on 08/06/2012 4:34:58 PM PDT by Marcella (The power to tax is the power to destroy.)
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To: EGPWS

Christians Attacked in India Discharged from Hospital; Left With No Where to Turn

http://www.persecution.org/2012/06/29/christians-attacked-in-india-discharged-from-hospital-left-with-no-where-to-turn/


15 posted on 08/06/2012 4:40:20 PM PDT by donna ("...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way..." -Mitt Romney, 2007)
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To: tsowellfan
Indian government officials and Sikh leaders across India were outraged by the attack that left 6 dead, including 4 Indian nationals, at a Sikh temple near Milwaukee and called on the U.S. to do more to protect Sikhs living in the United Sates.

Perhaps the Indians haven't been paying attention to recent events in US movie theaters. Wackos happen, get over it.

16 posted on 08/06/2012 4:42:34 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democrat Party, the party of the KKK (tm))
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To: hosepipe

“Could be...” but it isn’t.

India is just going through anti-gun gestures. That country is barely out of the grasp of socialists in any case.


17 posted on 08/06/2012 4:43:46 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: tsowellfan
now I understand why the flags are at half-mast.
18 posted on 08/06/2012 4:45:07 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (At what point does an escalated effort to remove this traitor commence, and what form does it take?)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Hyperbole does not make your case. Or strengthen it.


19 posted on 08/06/2012 4:45:36 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Amberdawn

>>>>Agreed. I get sick of hearing about how “outraged” foreigners are about our crime rate. If the U.S. is so damned bad, STAY HOME!

Actually , US also do same thing. Every year they grade other countries on religious freedom. So this is Tit for Tat.


20 posted on 08/06/2012 4:46:44 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: Marcella

What makes you so paranoid. Here I live in one of the allegedly most violent cities in the world, Chicago, and feel little or no danger no matter where I go.


21 posted on 08/06/2012 4:48:02 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: tsowellfan

Sikhs are not enemies to Christianity. They are peaceful and consider women to be equals.

Of course mozlums hate them.


22 posted on 08/06/2012 4:48:45 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: tsowellfan

Cable our State Dept. should send.....

Gee Mr. Foreign Minister.....I know we don’t go beserk over here and blow up mosques killings hundreds or forcibly relocate Muslims killing millions in the process like you guys did and still do...but did ya ever think if these poor victims weren’t fleeing your hellhole garbage dump of a country they wouldn’t have been here to be shot.

Fix your own problems Krishna. Cork it.


Now with Calderon in Mexico flapping his gums on US guns, the UN Treaty bubbling in the back ground to be revisited as soon as Commander Zero has “flexibility” after the election, and now this.

Disarming Americans becomes an “international issue”. How convenient.


23 posted on 08/06/2012 4:50:13 PM PDT by Lowell1775
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To: tsowellfan
Clinton called Indian Foreign Minister S.M. Krishna from her stop in South Africa Monday after Krishna criticized the U.S. for failed policies and a growing trend of violent incidents against religious minorities...

Hopefully she told him that US internal affairs are none of the Indian foreign minister's business.
24 posted on 08/06/2012 4:55:29 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: hosepipe

“Could be India hasn’t forgotten Marxists(socialists,fascists, and nazis) murdered about 200 to 300 million people last century and not only that but made multiplied BILLIONS miserable..”

From the India.Gov website:

India is a “Sovereign, Socialist, Secular, Democratic Republic” with a parliamentary system of government.


25 posted on 08/06/2012 5:02:16 PM PDT by dljordan ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.")
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To: arrogantsob

[ That country is barely out of the grasp of socialists in any case. ]

Who isn’t.?... Most all this planet is in the hands of socialists or other totalitarian schemes.. No I take that back.. ALL this planet has maleficent givernments..

Democracy is the political disease that breeds socialism, fascism and other forms of Marxism.. Mob Rule by mobsters..
No givernment on this planet is NOT CONTROLLED by a Mob..

In The United States the filthy word of “democracy” has become a Holy Word.. when its filthy..
School children everywhere are fed this word like Pavlov’s dogs..
And they salivate for socialism.. and givernment slavery...


26 posted on 08/06/2012 5:09:31 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: arrogantsob

[ Hyperbole does not make your case. Or strengthen it. ]

In a hyperbolic situation ONLY hyperbole can describe it..
Anything less is disinformation.. or agitprop..
-OR- a LIE...


27 posted on 08/06/2012 5:17:01 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: tsowellfan

The best way to help the Sikhs would be to start an advertising campaign (government supported or not) which makes it clear that Sikhs are not Muslims! In fact, several revered Sikh leaders have been martyred by Muslims.


28 posted on 08/06/2012 5:22:02 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: dljordan

[ India is a “Sovereign, Socialist, Secular, Democratic Republic” with a parliamentary system of government. ]

Little wonder they don’t have more problems than they do..
Democracy breeds socialism.. it’s inherent..
Indias givernment is MOB Rule by mobsters.. like those in URP..


Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx


29 posted on 08/06/2012 5:23:27 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: tsowellfan

Oh please, India’s as “upset” over this as the guy next door. It’s only political pandering which Hilary and Obama know how to do. Americans get killed overseas all the time and when do you ever hear any sense of “outrage” from this bunch?

You don’t


30 posted on 08/06/2012 5:27:49 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Now a Chick-fil-A customer . . . God bless Dan Cathy)
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To: tsowellfan

Oh for crying out loud!
Thousands are killed in India in massacres.


31 posted on 08/06/2012 5:48:38 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: wolficatZ

Bingo!


32 posted on 08/06/2012 5:52:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: tsowellfan

India simply needs to inform US as to how much additional money it would like.


33 posted on 08/06/2012 5:56:53 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

growing trend of violent incidents against religious minorities...

Religious minorities?

I guess that leaves Christians and CFA out huh, genius?


34 posted on 08/06/2012 5:57:18 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Now a Chick-fil-A customer . . . God bless Dan Cathy)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The Sikhs are definitely not Muslims and have a long history of being persecuted by and fighting against the Muslims. From everything I have heard about them, their religious tenets stress preparedness and readiness to protect their families and community. I would think that they, more than most groups, would be pro second amendment and would learn to use and carry firearms.

I can’t see how anyone could be so stupid and uninformed to attack the Sikh community. If anyone, we want these people to be our friends and allies.


35 posted on 08/06/2012 6:06:11 PM PDT by Have Ruck - Will Travel (Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I...)
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To: donna

I don’t know about your education standard but really it must be some madarassa sort of school.
1st of all- Ethnic classes against is not against Americans but Indian christians ,so not a matter of concern for you.
2nd - Those clashes were due to christian missinories who usually try to lure poor and desprate people to convert by presenting Hinduism as evil ,etc etc.
Try to get your facts right.


36 posted on 08/06/2012 6:21:50 PM PDT by MBT ARJUN
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To: arrogantsob

“What makes you so paranoid. Here I live in one of the allegedly most violent cities in the world, Chicago, and feel little or no danger no matter where I go.”

Maybe that’s because your name is “arrogant sob”


37 posted on 08/06/2012 6:26:03 PM PDT by Marcella (The power to tax is the power to destroy.)
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To: donna

I don’t know about your education standard but really it must be some madarassa sort of school.
1st of all- Ethnic classes against is not against Americans but Indian christians ,so not a matter of concern for you.
2nd - Those clashes were due to christian missinories who usually try to lure poor and desprate people to convert by presenting Hinduism as evil ,etc etc.
Try to get your facts right.


38 posted on 08/06/2012 6:36:10 PM PDT by MBT ARJUN
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To: MBT ARJUN

hy·poc·ri·sy

1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.


39 posted on 08/06/2012 7:11:42 PM PDT by donna ("...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way..." -Mitt Romney, 2007)
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What the Hell does India have to do with this? Were the murdered not US citizens?

Nothing against India, but are any of the countries in Asia apologizing to Rome for the rampant murder of Christians?

Is the current DC regime showing any concern for the persecution and cleansing of Christians?

NO!


40 posted on 08/06/2012 7:25:59 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: tsowellfan

Kind of makes you wonder why all of Africa and the ME isn’t trying to smooth things out with America with the hundreds of thousands of burned alive, hacked to death, crucified, enslaved, raped, mutilated Christians over the last couple of years? I dunno, maybe they just aren’t scared of us very much.


41 posted on 08/06/2012 7:33:15 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: jennychase

Grading on religious freedom is one thing, being outraged about 1 person going berzerk when it’s an anomaly is another. I do see your point in that the State Department and other org.’s list those things.


42 posted on 08/06/2012 7:46:03 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: tsowellfan

The NRA should offer to train Sikhs in personal defense/concealed carry.

That is how one defends oneself in America.


43 posted on 08/06/2012 8:11:01 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: Marcella

Arrogance produces safety? Who knew?


44 posted on 08/06/2012 8:24:31 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: hosepipe

Yada, yada, yada


45 posted on 08/06/2012 8:27:21 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: tsowellfan

The Wisconsin “massacre” was of and by Sikhs.

When Sikhs kill Sikhs, why do we have to apologise?


46 posted on 08/06/2012 8:34:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Gene Eric

So if India isn’t going to show concern for the Sikhs, who do you expect to show concern for the Sikhs? Saudi Arabia? Vatican?


47 posted on 08/06/2012 8:58:34 PM PDT by ravager
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To: Gene Eric

So if India isn’t going to show concern for the Sikhs, who do you expect to show concern for the Sikhs? Saudi Arabia? Vatican?


48 posted on 08/06/2012 8:58:50 PM PDT by ravager
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To: arrogantsob

[ Yada, yada, yada ]

True... we’re both preaching to the choir..
except for the treasonous RINOS lurking..


49 posted on 08/06/2012 8:59:03 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: SampleMan

No but US govt does raise a stink about “religious freedom”. This is India getting back at the US.


50 posted on 08/06/2012 9:08:00 PM PDT by ravager
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