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Louisiana teachers union threatens to sue private schools over voucher program
FoxNews ^ | 8/6/2012 | Unknown

Posted on 08/06/2012 5:08:12 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

A Louisiana teachers union is threatening private schools with legal action if they accept money from a new voucher program – and the threat has already forced at least one school to put its participation in the program on hold.

The demand was sent a few weeks ago by law firm representing the Louisiana Association of Educators and several other interests, and it argues the state-approved program is illegal because participating schools would be receiving an unconstitutional payment of public funds.

The two-page letter further states if schools don’t agree, then the law firm has “no alternative” than to take legal action.

“Our clients have directed us to take whatever means necessary to prevent the unconstitutional transfer of public money,” wrote Brian Blackwell, of the firm Blackwell & Associates.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: lawsuit; louisiana; nea; schoolchoice; schools; thugs; unions; unionthugs
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Union thugs protecting their territory.
1 posted on 08/06/2012 5:08:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The Tax-Payer’s money belongs only to the Government Unions. Not to the people that pay the taxes.


2 posted on 08/06/2012 5:12:10 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Liberal playbook #356-995A.


3 posted on 08/06/2012 5:13:07 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

A question : was the GI Bill unconstitutional if a vet used the money to attend Notre Dame? This issue should have been settled 65 years ago. One of these voucher schools should have the guts to say,”G ahead and sue!”


4 posted on 08/06/2012 5:13:17 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Blood of Tyrants
“Our clients have directed us to take whatever means necessary to prevent the unconstitutional transfer of public money,” wrote Brian Blackwell, of the firm Blackwell & Associates.

Where in the hell does the Constitution say union teachers even have a right to WORK?

FMCDH(BITS)

5 posted on 08/06/2012 5:15:40 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: xkaydet65

Most private schools don’t have the money to hire a lawyer. If I were them, I would talk to the other private schools and hire one lawyer to represent them all.


6 posted on 08/06/2012 5:19:19 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You gotta love the bullies these days.


7 posted on 08/06/2012 5:23:57 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You gotta love the bullies these days.


8 posted on 08/06/2012 5:24:19 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; wintertime

Ok you public school APOLOGISTS, let’s hear it.

How does this help children learn?

And why shouldn’t you guys be disbanded?

I’m waiting...still waiting...still waiting...


9 posted on 08/06/2012 5:25:34 PM PDT by BobL (Cruz'd to Victory - July 31, 2012)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Opposition to voucher programs by teachers unions is nothing new across the United States, as the unions fight to keep taxpayer dollars in public schools and to keep unionized teachers in classrooms. However, the tactics of the Louisiana teachers union appears especially aggressive. “We’ve never seen anybody go after private schools like this,” Susan Meyers, spokeswoman for the Friedman Foundation for Educational Choice, said Monday. “To actually intimidate, it borders on thuggery.”

In Louisiana you can right your child's private school education off on your taxes. The reason the teachers unions are fighting so hard is because the long term goal of Jindal and the State of Louisiana is to privatize public education.

10 posted on 08/06/2012 5:27:05 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: BBell

“In Louisiana you can right your child’s private school education off on your taxes. The reason the teachers unions are fighting so hard is because the long term goal of Jindal and the State of Louisiana is to privatize public education.”

And that’s bad because...


11 posted on 08/06/2012 5:30:11 PM PDT by BobL (Cruz'd to Victory - July 31, 2012)
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To: nothingnew
Where in the hell does the Constitution say union teachers even have a right to WORK?

Article I, Sectionn 8, right after the subsection where the fedguv is authorized to spend money on education. Duh.
12 posted on 08/06/2012 5:33:16 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Can you blame them?

Just imagine school vouchers. There will be mass layoffs of the incompetent, leave-no-child-behind, it-takes-a-village, “teachers” that pollute our education system.


13 posted on 08/06/2012 5:35:17 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I had to look to see if Satire was in the name or the tags...


14 posted on 08/06/2012 5:35:38 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: BobL

It’s only bad if your pro NEA and love the public School system. Somehow I doubt anyone here is.


15 posted on 08/06/2012 5:37:54 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

LA schools rank 44th in the nation for education.


16 posted on 08/06/2012 5:40:24 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
They should counter sue under RICO. They do not want the kids to get a real education and on top of that they load themselves up at taxpayers expense.
17 posted on 08/06/2012 5:44:36 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: BBell

It’s ‘you’re,’ not ‘your’.

It’s also ‘write off’, not ‘right off’.


18 posted on 08/06/2012 5:44:49 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: BBell

“It’s only bad if your pro NEA and love the public School system. Somehow I doubt anyone here is.”

Oh you’d be surprised. I’ve had to deal with that bunch, and recently. Their attitude is very simple: The private sector is just fine, except for education.


19 posted on 08/06/2012 5:47:09 PM PDT by BobL (Cruz'd to Victory - July 31, 2012)
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To: BBell

“The reason the teachers unions are fighting so hard is because the long term goal of Jindal and the State of Louisiana is to privatize public education.”

So. What.


20 posted on 08/06/2012 5:50:06 PM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I saw a really good documentary on the voucher schools and their success after Katrina called The Experiment - worth watching.
www.theexperimentfilm.com/


21 posted on 08/06/2012 5:52:01 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Losers HATE competition...


22 posted on 08/06/2012 5:53:37 PM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

More union bullies. They should play close attention to what happened in Wisconsin.


23 posted on 08/06/2012 5:56:58 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Fascist thugs!

Remember that the next time you meet a government teacher. This stuff happens because **TEACHERS** make it happen.

So?....Where are the good teachers protesting this? Hm?....Crickets! ( There are no “good” teachers. They are either evil, stupid, or useful idiots. )


24 posted on 08/06/2012 6:17:14 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: BBell

As someone who works hard and pays thousands for my children to attend private school in Louisiana, I am against this handout. I sacrificed and made the correct choices in my life so that I could pay for a private education for my kids. But, here comes RINO Bobby giving $8,500 to any low income student in a C graded or worse school to sit next to my child with nothing out of their parents pocket. Does anyone really think that this is going to motivate the parents to care about their kid’s education? Is something that’s given free of charge ever truly appreciated? Meanwhile the environment in my child’s school begins to resemble that of a public school.

Government money always comes with strings attached and once a private school receives a significant amount of government money, they can be lead around by the nose by that government. Tolerance education, diversity, etc. can all be a stipulation to the dollars. Jindal will not always be the governor of LA. God forbid a Dem get elected.

Now that private schools that have lower tuition know that there are kids out there with $8500 attached to them, what’s to stop the school from raising tuition to $8500? For the responsible families who’ve budgeted for this and can barely make $5000 per year, this is a screw job. They’ll pay up or be forced into the public school system if they can’t.

This is means tested. The middle class children get nothing out of it regardless of their public school’s performance. Failing school? T.S. if your household income is above 250% of poverty level.

Before you lambaste me as some sort of leftist, think about what I’ve posted and the poison that accompanies govt money. I pay tens of thousands in income taxes and property taxes($2500 goes to public ed). I take no government handouts. I pay thousands for my children to have a private education. And, now, there will be government handouts that allow kids to go to private school with nothing out of their parent’s pockets.

The poor don’t pay income taxes or property taxes, get free food, very discounted housing, welfare, free healthcare, free cell phones and on and on. And, now they get free PRIVATE education. At some point people are going to realize that free stuff isn’t going to motivate many to rectify their situation. Meanwhile the rest of us bust ass for half the year just to earn in real income an amount that equals all of the government handouts given to the sloths.

It’s sickening. Why bother?


25 posted on 08/06/2012 6:18:02 PM PDT by Jake8898
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Actually, it reminds me of Westly Moch’s Directive 10-289.

:-)

26 posted on 08/06/2012 6:28:16 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: Jake8898

You’re right. I can see that one of the strings attached to the money is that the private school has to take anyone with a voucher. I can also see private schools popping up just because of the vouchers. I can also see current private schools, especially the Christian schools, simply refusing to accept any voucher students.


27 posted on 08/06/2012 6:33:25 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Proof that Unions are communists inspired. And these teachers are teaching our children.


28 posted on 08/06/2012 6:36:38 PM PDT by Logical me
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GTH, you self-serving scumbags.


29 posted on 08/06/2012 6:39:07 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Interestingly, the Christian schools are accepting dozens or more in many instances. I feel for the parents scratching to afford $5000 in tuition. Now that a school of say, 250 students adds 100 of the voucher kids, how long will it be before the school raises tuition to the voucher max of $8,500 and runs their middle income students off to the failing public school?

Govt money always causes prices to go up. Just look at what govt money did to the cost of healthcare through medicare/medicaid. Just look at what govt money did to the cost of college tuition with all of it’s easy money loans and various grants.


30 posted on 08/06/2012 6:41:41 PM PDT by Jake8898
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To: kalee

LA schools rank 44th in the nation for education.


And they want to stay there.


31 posted on 08/06/2012 6:43:38 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: kalee

LA schools rank 44th in the nation for education.


And proud of it.


32 posted on 08/06/2012 6:45:40 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Although Louisiana law is unique in many areas, I just don’t see how the teachers’ union would have standing. Even if it did, I do not see how the schools receiving the vouchers in good faith can be the object of the suit.

It would be like Ralph Kramden’s union suing over subsidies for private taxi cabs.


33 posted on 08/06/2012 6:56:05 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: Jake8898
Govt money always causes prices to go up.

Yup, and you wisely stated "government money" ... in ANY form. Student loans fuel tuition increases. Even G. W. Bush's well-intentioned increase in the adoption tax credit resulted in agency/lawyer fees rising dramatically overnight.
34 posted on 08/06/2012 6:59:37 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: Jake8898

I wonder if those Christian schools are receiving more for the voucher kids than the paying kids. I also wonder how long it will be before the state starts telling them what they have to teach, what books they have to use, what class sizes must be, what they can serve for lunch, and most importantly, that they can no longer teach about Christianity.


35 posted on 08/06/2012 7:00:34 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Exactly. This may be well intentioned by Jindal but it’s short-sighted. Once the dense libs see what a useful tool it is, this will spread and they’ll be able to crush Christian schools by slowly getting them addicted to and reliant on govt cash.

Taste that govt cheese and SNAP!!! Diversity training, American atrocity day, homosexual appreciation day, and cross-dress day, among other less obvious progressive shaping all potentially become a requirement to receive the now depended upon cash.


36 posted on 08/06/2012 7:13:06 PM PDT by Jake8898
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To: Jake8898

Are there any qualifications that the student must meet, i.e. means testing, etc?


37 posted on 08/06/2012 7:19:03 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Jake8898

P.S. It’s a wonder that private universities have avoided the government mandates from taking money from the GI bill and Pell grants.


38 posted on 08/06/2012 7:23:48 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Private universities are plenty liberal and preach the “progressive” party line on their own. Even the more Religious universities such as Georgetown, Notre Dame, Boston College are all spewing “social justice” in all common curriculum type classes. Govt. need not demand anything as they are voluntarily compliant.

That’s why Hillsdale is so proud of taking no government money. they don’t toe that progressive line.


39 posted on 08/06/2012 7:30:44 PM PDT by Jake8898
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yes. The student must not have a household income greater than 250% of the poverty line. The private school cannot test the student for admission. There is a lottery and you get who you get. A family of 4 who make about 75K per year will be told tough crap, your parents make too much, you stay in the public school while the shiftless parents kids get up to $8,500/year X 12 years!!!

That’s a $102,000 over a 1st -12th grade education. Multiply that by 3-4 kids for an unmarried, slothful government leech and you’re looking at $408,000. Nice deal if you’re poor enough, isn’t it?

Meanwhile, my kid, with me shelling out thousands, now gets to sit next to a child who will likely reflect his/her dysfunctional home life in the classroom.


40 posted on 08/06/2012 7:41:17 PM PDT by Jake8898
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To: Marie
So. What.

Sorry. I did not expect anyone here to be pro NEA and public school loving.

41 posted on 08/06/2012 7:45:55 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: 353FMG

You also forgot to mention that the public school teachers bring in Gay Speakers, pass out condoms, etc., and fill our kids with visions of tree hugging eco-nazism.


42 posted on 08/06/2012 7:49:05 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: Balding_Eagle

See, that’s what public skoolz do for spellin and gramah.


43 posted on 08/06/2012 7:52:02 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Jake8898

Yes, I can see how that is unfair the true middle income people who struggle to send their kids to private school. Unless they offer vouchers for ALL kids (including the kids currently in private school) and make sure those vouchers are free of government strings, then no one should get them.


44 posted on 08/06/2012 8:01:38 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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45 posted on 08/06/2012 8:01:38 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: PMAS

I’ve seen it, and I would agree that it is worth watching.


46 posted on 08/06/2012 8:04:18 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: BBell

And I’m sorry. I misunderstood the tone of your post. I thought you were justifying their argument.

My sincerest apologies!


47 posted on 08/06/2012 8:06:17 PM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Jake8898

I can see the points you are making. I guess in some ways it’s a catch 22. I know when one of my children attended a private school here in La. the private school she attended would stay very strict to their standards and would not hesitate to boot anyone out who acted up and became a problem.


48 posted on 08/06/2012 8:12:53 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This is one more example of why we need to get rid of the single payer socialized schooling industry and replace it with a free market capitalist system. It will be hard to get people give up having their lifestyle subsidized by this “entitlement”, but it needs to be done.

Socialized schooling was the nation’s biggest entitlement until Social Security caught up either last year or this year. Converting to a capitalist schooling system would go a long way toward balancing local and state budgets and set the precedence for eliminating other federal handouts.

http://www.schoolandstate.org/home.htm


49 posted on 08/06/2012 8:16:48 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It’s time for A RICO suit against the union. This is a SLAP suit at best.


50 posted on 08/06/2012 8:20:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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