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Sikh temple shooting: Gunman had been on investigators' radar
LA TImes ^ | 8/6/2012 | brian bennet

Posted on 08/06/2012 8:53:40 PM PDT by RummyChick

WASHINGTON -- Federal investigators had “looked at” Sikh temple gunman Wade Michael Page more than once because of his associations with right-wing extremists and the possibility that he was providing funding to a domestic terrorist group, but law enforcement officials at the time determined there was not enough evidence of a crime to open an investigation, a senior U.S. law enforcement official said.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media, would not say Monday which law enforcement agency had considered investigating Page, or when.

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1 posted on 08/06/2012 8:53:42 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Something stinks about this story.


2 posted on 08/06/2012 8:54:58 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

He was such a dumb person. He thought they were moslems. Then he shot himself in total ignorance. Sad really.


3 posted on 08/06/2012 8:59:11 PM PDT by marygonzo
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To: RummyChick

The investigators were probably told by someone high up not to continue to track the man. They probably figured that the ends would justify the means - hundreds of dead Mexicans for the same cause what’s a few Indians? After all, they have a big population over there.


4 posted on 08/06/2012 8:59:45 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: marygonzo

Maybe Hell is controlled by the muzzies


5 posted on 08/06/2012 9:01:02 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: RummyChick
Why is a Nazi lunatic ascribed to the Right?

Nazi as we know stands for National SOCIALIST.

Hitler was an anti-capitalist, allied with Comrade Stalin from 33 until stabbing him in the back in 41.

6 posted on 08/06/2012 9:01:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RummyChick

Has anyone reported if this guy was employed anywhere? I haven’t seen any comments from co-workers, but I may have missed them.


7 posted on 08/06/2012 9:01:53 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: marygonzo

I thought the police shot him?


8 posted on 08/06/2012 9:01:53 PM PDT by funfan
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To: RummyChick

Gosh, i hope you aren’t implying that a government that would flood the cartels with assault rifles, would become aware of a ticking time bomb,,and then just back off and wait for him to blow up,,just so they can take advantage of it to advance their agenda.

Next you’ll accuse them of letting an army officer muslim psychologist correspond with an Al Qeida leader for years and ignore THAT too!/ (do i really need it?)


9 posted on 08/06/2012 9:02:45 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: RummyChick

Page was a white supremacist who killed who he killed because of thei color, their dress and their “differentness”. There a lots of people like him. They aren’t conservatives, they a delusional cultists.

What I’m waiting for is who or what pushed him to kill just now. Maybe it’s the breakup with a girlfriend but the timing is too convenient.


10 posted on 08/06/2012 9:03:11 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: tsowellfan; archy

The FBI/ATF/KGB “informant” running him might have slipped him the 9mm and a map.

I’d put NOTHING past this govt after MURDERGATE.


11 posted on 08/06/2012 9:03:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tsowellfan

So where do you think the next target will be?


12 posted on 08/06/2012 9:04:21 PM PDT by funfan
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To: tsowellfan

So where do you think the next target will be?


13 posted on 08/06/2012 9:05:51 PM PDT by funfan
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To: RummyChick; mickie
Something DOES stink about this story.....the statement about the shooter's alleged links to "right-wing extremists".

If he's linked to neo-Nazis, his links are to LEFT-WING extremists.

"Nazi".....from National Socialism.....(Nationalsozialismus)

We must expose this Goebbels-ploy every time it's spewed to the public by the corrupt leftist media.

Leni

14 posted on 08/06/2012 9:07:28 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: RummyChick; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

I hear he played in a punk band. What band is looking for a lead guitar player, a friend wants to know?


15 posted on 08/06/2012 9:09:49 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: funfan

Did they? Who cares?He was an idiot.


16 posted on 08/06/2012 9:10:17 PM PDT by marygonzo
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To: RummyChick

in other news...the Dr of James Holmes contacted police about him before shooting

http://abcnews.go.com/US/james-holmes-psychiatrist-contacted-university-police-weeks-movie/story?id=16943858#.UCCUsfbN9xM


17 posted on 08/06/2012 9:10:59 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: JimSEA
What girlfriend have you heard from her or seen her? Have you heard from any of his friends or family where is his manifesto saying he didn't like these people. All we know is what the “Officials” are telling us.
18 posted on 08/06/2012 9:11:40 PM PDT by funfan
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To: Travis McGee

You knowwwww,, seriously. They admit they were watching him at some point and thinking he was funding violent types. He was also known to that Southern Poverty Law Center.

YET, he sailed right through the background check without even a few days delay? I know all kinds of people who get a delay just cause their name is common, like Jones or Smith.

Is it really _that_ hard to imagine they would let him buy and take the gun, hoping he would “walk” it to his neo-nazi criminal friends? If it blew up in their face, would Holders FBI admit it?


19 posted on 08/06/2012 9:12:00 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: RummyChick

Weird. Loughner and Holmes were on peoples’ “radar” also. I don’t think guns are the problem here. I think the problem is people being afraid they’ll get sued if they say anything.


20 posted on 08/06/2012 9:12:26 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The NRA did not create James "The Joker" Holmes. Harvey Weinstein's Hollywood did.)
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To: RummyChick

I agree. This insane loser was a moneyman?


21 posted on 08/06/2012 9:15:51 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: RummyChick

One of these days I’ll make it to a thread in time to post:

IBVPPANBLW - (In Before Vainly Protesting Posts About Nazis Being Left Wing!)

It’s not catching, folks, after all these years and such sincere attempts, it ain’t catching, I dunno why.


22 posted on 08/06/2012 9:16:48 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

So was Cho from Virginia Tech. All kinds of warnings from family, educators and psychologists.


23 posted on 08/06/2012 9:20:35 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: RummyChick
the possibility that he was providing funding to a domestic terrorist group, but law enforcement officials at the time determined there was not enough evidence of a crime to open an investigation

They've already said this guy had little or nothing, in the low rent district etc.

This guy was clearly just another ding.

The media is so FOS.

24 posted on 08/06/2012 9:24:10 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: RummyChick

“right-wing” extremists..here ya go, I was waiting for how long the far left media kooks would start associating Republicans with this murdering douche bag. I am shocked it took them this long


25 posted on 08/06/2012 9:26:01 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: RummyChick

He’s an islamist faciltator regardless of his MO. In this case he killed a bunch of Sikhs. What islamist wouldn’t like to do kill a bunch of Sikhs? Though even if the idiot was mistaken and thought he was killing muslims, so what? muslims kill more muslims than anyone else, so the guy is still doing Muhamad’s bidding.

An islamist’s delight any way you look at it. Our so-called President must’ve broken in to a Hitleresque jig sometime during the course of the day.


26 posted on 08/06/2012 9:28:06 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: RummyChick
. . . because he was not authorized to speak to the media, would not say Monday which law enforcement agency had considered investigating Page, or when.

Holder Justice?

Whatever; all so convenient for that Second Amendment challenge or just 'confiscation'. . .(and certainly works for Election season; per the usual players.)

Obama, Inc. continues to find; the gifts, that keep on giving. . .amazing.

27 posted on 08/06/2012 9:31:37 PM PDT by cricket (http://voteron2012.com/)
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To: DesertRhino

My understanding is the Southern Poverty Law Center, will be issuing a statement of their investigation of the New Black Panther Party will be at 11:00am the second Tuesday of next week. US Attorney Eric(The Red) Holder has said to the press “No Comment!”.


28 posted on 08/06/2012 9:42:44 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO, same for RINOs)
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To: marygonzo
He was such a dumb person. He thought they were moslems. Then he shot himself in total ignorance. Sad really.

I have yet to see a white supremacist who was actually somebody that whites should be proud of.
29 posted on 08/06/2012 9:47:46 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: RummyChick

I knew they were watching him...and/or involved with him in a Mexican gun running fiasco type operation gone bad, or good depending if you are a gun grabber or not. That he was in military psy-ops in the past stinks to high heaven, too. The DOJ tried to bust those “milita” guys by entering into the group and then planning an attack themselves. That case against “right wing extremists” was one of a few lost by the DOJ. Wonder what their involvement was with this operation.

There is a lot that bothers me about the colorado shooter’s circumstances as well.


30 posted on 08/06/2012 9:48:50 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I think there are lot more people on this “radar” than we’ve been led to believe. Like everybody.


31 posted on 08/06/2012 9:50:56 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: RummyChick

Um, from what I’ve seen, he was a neo-Nazi (national SOCIALIST). So of course the Geobels media casts him as “right wing.”


32 posted on 08/06/2012 10:02:46 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: onedoug

> An islamist’s delight any way you look at it....

Hussein is happy.


33 posted on 08/06/2012 10:02:54 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: RummyChick

I am sick and tired of people calling Nazis “right wing”.


34 posted on 08/06/2012 10:08:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Travis McGee
Why is a Nazi lunatic ascribed to the Right? Nazi as we know stands for National SOCIALIST. Hitler was an anti-capitalist, allied with Comrade Stalin from 33 until stabbing him in the back in 41.

You are 100% correct. NAZI stands for wiki.answers.com › ... › WW2 Axis Powers › Germany in WW2 "Nazi" is short for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party).

"Right Wing Nazi Skin Heads," are not right wing, they are left wing socialists.

35 posted on 08/06/2012 10:08:31 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: RummyChick

Once again, another False Flag operation. Evidently, things in Colorado did not spark the national outrage for banning guns. Obama is hoping this will, under the radar so to speak.

This character was with the National Alliance, long known to be run by the FBI. I think there are more FBI agents in the National Alliance than true believers.

At one time worked in a Psy-Op unit? Got busted down? Multiple witnesses say four gunmen, all white, dressed in black, with three getting away in a sedan.

This due left behind as a “Domestic Terrorist” a “veteran”, a Skinhead... yeah the plan is all coming together now... Wait until Nato shows up at your door looking for your guns....


36 posted on 08/06/2012 10:09:15 PM PDT by abigkahuna (I have achieved the goal of semi-literacy through public schooling.)
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To: marygonzo

I’m sure he didn’t think they were Mozlems. He was in psy ops in the military. He wasn’t so stupid as to think Sikhs were Mozzies. No way.


37 posted on 08/06/2012 10:09:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: abigkahuna

This one isn’t getting traction, so there will be another worse one coming, backed by the same people (the DOiJ).


38 posted on 08/06/2012 10:16:33 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: abigkahuna

This one isn’t getting traction, so there will be another worse one coming, backed by the same people (the DOiJ).


39 posted on 08/06/2012 10:16:42 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: little jeremiah

I don’t think he was unaware of the difference between Muslim and Sikh either. I don’t think he cared at all. He was looking to gun down ‘ferners’ and commit suicide by cop, and he did.


40 posted on 08/06/2012 10:18:02 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Steel Wolf

There is enough strangeness to this that I think there is more to it.

Several witness have said there was more than one shooter; and that a couple of men had cased the temple I think the Friday before.

It stinks.


41 posted on 08/06/2012 10:43:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: RummyChick

What the hell is “right wing” about the damnable skinheads??? That cheap shot by the LA Times is absolutely despicable.


42 posted on 08/06/2012 11:16:23 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: little jeremiah
I certainly don't doubt the interest and intent of our friends in the Administration towards those ends. I just don't know how you would engineer such a thing.

It's no easy task to persuade someone to commit murder/suicide. Even the Iraqis often had to handcuff their 'volunteers' to the steering wheel so they couldn't change their minds.

43 posted on 08/06/2012 11:22:17 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: onedoug

How do you know he mistook the Sikhs for Muslims?


44 posted on 08/07/2012 12:56:30 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Natural Born Citizen - born in the USA of citizen parents.)
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To: dragnet2

I wouldn’t look at it that way. The way I see it, they are “watching closely” anyone that is 1) conservative and 2)owns at least one weapon. That is why the BrownShirt Media jumps in so quickly with “He was a white conservative Christian” meme. That is the one the are waiting so desperately for. Make no mistake, Big Brother IS watching and very closely, I might imagine.


45 posted on 08/07/2012 3:05:01 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: RummyChick

Sikh’s.

The faith essentially ties together Bhakti Hinduism
and Islamic Sufism.

Sufism is Islamic mysticism.

Sufi Sikh’s practices:Prerequisites to practice
include rigorous adherence to Islamic norms (ritual
prayer in its five prescribed times each day, the fast
of Ramadan, and so forth).

They are also called Sufi Muslims.

But the media is reporting the citizens of the United
States ‘ confuse Sikh’s with being Muslim’...

in July 2006, specifically recognized the validity of
Sufism as a part of Islam.


46 posted on 08/07/2012 3:19:07 AM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: marygonzo

You speak of ignorance..and you do not know what a Sikh is..

Sikh’s.

The faith essentially ties together Bhakti Hinduism
and Islamic Sufism.

Sufism is Islamic mysticism.

Sufi Sikh’s practices:Prerequisites to practice
include rigorous adherence to Islamic norms (ritual
prayer in its five prescribed times each day, the fast
of Ramadan, and so forth).

They are also called Sufi Muslims.

But the media is reporting the citizens of the United
States ‘ confuse Sikh’s with being Muslim’...

in July 2006, specifically recognized the validity of
Sufism as a part of Islam.


47 posted on 08/07/2012 3:21:17 AM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: Freddd

Are Sikhs recognized by Sunnis or Shiites as muslims?


48 posted on 08/07/2012 3:32:48 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Travis McGee

NAZI = “National Socialists Workers’ Party”.

You can’t spell NAZI without Socialist!


49 posted on 08/07/2012 3:37:17 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: RummyChick

WHAT right wing groups????????? I don’t believe this for a second.


50 posted on 08/07/2012 3:58:33 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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