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Handgun type used on Sikhs is mass shooting weapon of choice (Springfield Armory 9mm)
Yahoo!News ^ | 8/7/2012 | Greg McCune

Posted on 08/07/2012 5:23:04 AM PDT by DTogo

Wisconsin shooter Wade Michael Page used a Springfield 9mm semiautomatic handgun to carry out the attack at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, officials said. As in several other recent mass shootings, the gun had been purchased legally, at a Milwaukee-area gun store called the Shooter Shop.

"There is no valid reason for civilians to have assault rifles, semiautomatic handguns and high-capacity magazines," he said. "We have to start ratcheting down the firepower in civilian hands in the United States."

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Ratchet down the firepower in "civilian" hands while ratcheting up the drones and military surplus to Police and DHS...
1 posted on 08/07/2012 5:23:12 AM PDT by DTogo
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To: DTogo

Who is the “Spearman” mentioned in the article?


2 posted on 08/07/2012 5:25:14 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: DTogo
Only trained professional in the military and the police need semi-auto rifles and pistols.


3 posted on 08/07/2012 5:27:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DTogo

As soon as those sorry pitiful cowardly politicians give up their armed protection and the equally pathetic Hollywood elites do the same, I am keeping my arsenal.


4 posted on 08/07/2012 5:27:56 AM PDT by Machavelli (True God)
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To: DTogo

Bump


5 posted on 08/07/2012 5:28:32 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: DTogo

Bump


6 posted on 08/07/2012 5:29:42 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: DTogo
"There is no valid reason for civilians to have assault rifles, semiautomatic handguns and high-capacity magazines," he said. "We have to start ratcheting down the firepower in civilian hands in the United States."


7 posted on 08/07/2012 5:35:00 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: DTogo

well just look to Chicago and the fine job our Community organizer president has done to find out how great gun control works. Works find for mafia and gangs.Lets all just be at the mercy of the scum of the earth.


8 posted on 08/07/2012 5:35:23 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: wideawake

Does not say who “Spearman” is, in the rush by Reuters to print the horrors of a Springfield Armory 9mm and those evil “high capacity” magazines.


9 posted on 08/07/2012 5:36:51 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo
"There is no valid reason for civilians to have assault rifles, semiautomatic handguns and high-capacity magazines,"

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'nuff said.

10 posted on 08/07/2012 5:39:10 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: DTogo

> “There is no valid reason for civilians to have assault
> rifles, semiautomatic handguns and high-capacity
> magazines,”

How ironic.

Nobody could have articulated the reason better than this elitist pig who probably has heavily armed bodygards.


11 posted on 08/07/2012 5:39:21 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Travis McGee

What a coincidence that DHS and local LEOs are up-armoring while the mouthpieces of Mordor clamor for disarming the riff-raff.


12 posted on 08/07/2012 5:39:38 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: wideawake
It is probably a typo of Sugarman, who is quoted earlier. He is one of the leaders of the leftist movement to disarm America:

Josh Sugarmann is the executive director and founder of the Violence Policy Center (VPC). Prior to founding the VPC, Sugarmann was a press officer in the national office of Amnesty International USA and was the communications director for the National Coalition to Ban Handguns.

He is reported to be the guy who launched the idea of using the term "assault weapon" to confuse the public and attack the rights of citizens to own semiautomatic rifles.

"Assault weapons—just like armor-piercing bullets, machine guns, and plastic firearms—are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. In addition, few people can envision a practical use for these weapons."

-Josh Sugarmann, Assault Weapons and Accessories in America, 1988 (Source)

13 posted on 08/07/2012 5:41:00 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: DTogo

AHHHH!
Springfield!

Own one, hope to have another.
And another..
And another...

The XDm 45 4.5 inch bitone is my EDC.
Shoots straight as a laser.


14 posted on 08/07/2012 5:43:36 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Obama hates Mexicans (Fast and Furious))
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To: DTogo

Technological advances will come soon when it won’t be about magazines or bullets but power packs and lasers.

Then what? Regulate everyone back to the stone age?


15 posted on 08/07/2012 5:44:05 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Going mobile, posts will be brief. No spellcheck for the grammar nazis.)
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To: DTogo
"There is no valid reason for civilians to have assault rifles, semiautomatic handguns and high-capacity magazines," he said. "We have to start ratcheting down the firepower in civilian hands in the United States."

My reason is that I will be able to defend myself when other people decide that I'm expendable. FMCDH

16 posted on 08/07/2012 5:44:42 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: DTogo
Wait a minute. I thought Glocks were the evil handguns and the choice of terrorists and mass-murderers everywhere, and then I thought it was Desert Eagle. Now you're telling me it's Springfield?

I wish someone would just publish a guide so I can tell the good guns from the evil guns. That would be so handy.

</sarcasm>

17 posted on 08/07/2012 5:47:37 AM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (OVERTHROW OBAMA!)
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To: DTogo
The socialists want to save us from the horror of gun violence.

That makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.


18 posted on 08/07/2012 5:49:18 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DTogo

Guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns,.....yakitayakitayak.

I don’t give a ratz behind about the GUNZ.

I want to know: WHO WAS HIS SHRINK AND WHAT MEDS WAS HE JACKED UP ON?

Until the focus shifts, the direction is lost.


19 posted on 08/07/2012 5:51:00 AM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimze, my handle is a Hate Crime. Hope they don't like it.)
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To: DTogo

FU Wisconsin “officials”! Come and get’em!


20 posted on 08/07/2012 5:53:39 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: DTogo

I love my Springfield XD9...”ONE” of my favorites


21 posted on 08/07/2012 5:53:50 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

22 posted on 08/07/2012 5:53:50 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus
I thought Glocks were the evil handguns

Beat me to it. But if it had been an "Evil Glock" it would never have taken so long to publish the gun manufacture.

23 posted on 08/07/2012 5:55:16 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: DTogo

There is no valid reason for journalists to have direct access to the internet, television, radio and the printing press before their stories can be thoroughly checked by a gov’t authority first.


24 posted on 08/07/2012 5:59:06 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: DTogo

Those “Gun Buy Back” operations hosted by various police agencies have been reported (not by the media or govt. ) to have failed. There was a Dept of Justice report on it. Those programs don’t work. Just like gun control doesn’t work.

There are trying to take a tool used away to prevent the crime - instead of looking at the root of where the criminal took the path that ultimately brought him to the decision to commit to it. Of course that take a time and effort, it’s far easier to confiscate guns from everyone to make it seem that everyone is safer.

Then again, I used to be in law , a trooper - and there were physical fitness standards to be maintained - just like the military - now a days - about every officer I see is overweight except for a few. They are suppose to protect us when we are left unarmed???


25 posted on 08/07/2012 5:59:40 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus
"Wait a minute. I thought Glocks were the evil handguns and the choice of terrorists and mass-murderers everywhere, and then I thought it was Desert Eagle. Now you're telling me it's Springfield? I wish someone would just publish a guide so I can tell the good guns from the evil guns. That would be so handy. " Sure glad I have a Kel-Tec 9mm then.
26 posted on 08/07/2012 6:10:52 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker (Oppose Senate Amendment S.A. 2575! I need more than 10 rounds in my magazine.)
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To: DTogo; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; ...

Wisconsin Sikh Temple handgun identified — discussion

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin inteest ping list.


27 posted on 08/07/2012 6:13:46 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: DTogo
The purpose of "gun control" is to give the government a monopoly on violence.

Governments, primarily socialist/Communist governments, murdered 200,000,000 of their own citizens in the past hundred years, and gun control was always the first step.

28 posted on 08/07/2012 6:14:20 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the collectivists.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Yep, XDM’s are very nice handguns.


29 posted on 08/07/2012 6:15:32 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus
Yes, the anti-gun rhetoric is being "ratcheted" up from assault weapons to semi-automatic handguns, and now "high capacity" magazines.

Lawmakers in Hartford CT proposed making mere posession of "high capacity" magazines a felony and hundreds testified against it for over 12 hours. The bill died as it should in committee.

30 posted on 08/07/2012 6:19:49 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

Even with a quick response by police in this case and in Aurora, when seconds counted police were only minutes away. Though from what I understand about Sikhs, they would not be likely to be carrying weapons.


31 posted on 08/07/2012 6:28:21 AM PDT by gunnut
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To: Erik Latranyi
HA!

Get a "Journalism Permit" and have a background check on each story before it's printed, after filling out state and federal forms.

Depending on which state you reside in, your article may require a 2 week "cooling down" period, may require a supplemental permit to take it home, or limit you to one printed article per month (no "high capacity" assault journalism).

32 posted on 08/07/2012 6:42:33 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
...gun control was always the first step.

Even King George III thought so, but it didn't work out so well for his soldiers at Lexington & Concord.

33 posted on 08/07/2012 6:45:49 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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Fixating on the semi-automatic firing mechanism makes about as much sense as saying that most drunk drivers prefer automatic transmissions. I imagine the popularity of semi-auto handguns versus revolvers is pretty similar to the ratio of automatic to manual transmissions on the road. It’s just what most buyers prefer now.


34 posted on 08/07/2012 7:08:01 AM PDT by stranger and pilgrim
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To: sauropod

read


35 posted on 08/07/2012 7:15:41 AM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: DonkeyBonker
I thought Glocks were the evil handguns and the choice of terrorists and mass-murderers everywhere,

Glocks ARE evil, because the damned trigger guard won't accommodate my fingertip very well.

36 posted on 08/07/2012 7:16:22 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: DTogo

Indeed, if civilians are not to have repeating weaopons, why would the police require them?


37 posted on 08/07/2012 7:24:39 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: wideawake
Do you mean "Sugarmann"?

"This allows the shooter to fire the maximum number of bullets in a short period of time, said Josh Sugarmann, executive director of the Violence Policy Center, a nonprofit group that advocates to reduce gun violence."

38 posted on 08/07/2012 7:41:01 AM PDT by Kenton (Pssst - I just heard from a guy that Harry Reid isn't just corrupt, he showers with kids!)
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To: Slump Tester

I completely understand your anger, but which “officials” would those be? The quote wasn’t stated by a Wisconsin official, but an anti-gun nut - and they didn’t even attribute the quote correctly... Just Sayin’...

[Not that it isn’t bad enough that there are actually people living among us that don’t understand WHY lawful citizens NEED guns for protection... Wisconsin has better gun laws than many other places, and a well-armed citizenry to boot - even if a great many are only armed with hunting rifles and the like...]


39 posted on 08/07/2012 7:45:20 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: DTogo


40 posted on 08/07/2012 7:48:30 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: Travis McGee

bttt


41 posted on 08/07/2012 8:23:26 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: DTogo
"James Holmes, the man accused of killing 12 people in a shooting spree last month at a theater in Aurora, Colorado, used one .40-caliber Glock handgun and had another one in his car. The weapons were purchased legally within the previous 60 days."

That other handgun that remained "in his car" -- plus hundreds of thousands of others under the control of responsible owners -- hurt and killed no one!

It was the illegal actions of its criminal owner that injured and killed in Aurora -- not the guns he owned!!!

Criminalize the (rare) USER, dumb@$$3$ -- not the (ubiquitous) tool!!

~~~~~~~~~~~

(Most liberals are able to comprehend the truth of the above; but, their overwhelming thirst for control demands that they ignore it...)

42 posted on 08/07/2012 8:54:17 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: DTogo

Silly, childish stuff; if semi-automatic weapons were outlawed, then criminals would use revolvers.

If all firearms were outlawed, criminals would use knives.

If knives were outlawed... and on and on into an infinity of pre-adolescent ruminations of the sort that has brought no one any safety - as we see only too clearly by examination of overseas nations.

Moreover, criminals intent on mischief would always find sophisticated weaponry on the black market - stolen from police and National Guard armories.

Mass slayings by those previously considered sane, meanwhile, would continue with other deadly implements, only to lead to a society in which every chef in every restaurant from coast to coast would have to be registered in order to purchase a knife.

Children, meanwhile, would be forced to give up the sport of baseball for fear of baseball bats.

A nation cannot live on its knees simply because the fact of the matter is that some of its members go insane from time to time, and we are reminded that many of the worst mass slayings in world history are recorded much before the invention of firearms.

Indeed, it could well be argued that firearms in the hands of private citizens have PREVENTED a good many of the excesses of violence witnessed in the Middle Ages.


43 posted on 08/07/2012 9:09:02 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: DTogo

A philosophical question. Since the guns I like best are glocks and springfield xd’s, which are both “evil”, what gun should I carry?


44 posted on 08/07/2012 3:57:24 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Romney/Pelosi 2012- the Spirit of Bipartisanship!)
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To: DTogo

A philosophical question. Since the guns I like best are glocks and springfield xd’s, which are both “evil”, what gun should I carry?


45 posted on 08/07/2012 4:01:25 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Romney/Pelosi 2012- the Spirit of Bipartisanship!)
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To: DTogo

A philosophical question. Since the guns I like best are glocks and springfield xd’s, which are both “evil”, what gun should I carry?


46 posted on 08/07/2012 4:01:58 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Romney/Pelosi 2012- the Spirit of Bipartisanship!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Something with a caliber larger than 9mm.


47 posted on 08/07/2012 4:13:06 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: DTogo

The leader of the temple could have used more firepower. Taking on the shooter with a knife had a predictable outcome.


48 posted on 08/07/2012 4:16:36 PM PDT by Nachoman (I HOPE we CHANGE presidents.)
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To: DTogo

And the blood dancing builds to a frenzy. The three sources quoted in this article were the VPC, the Brady Campaign, and the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. It’s a little like doing a story on the invasion of Poland and quoting Hitler, Goebbels, and Goering.


49 posted on 08/07/2012 4:23:49 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: RKBA Democrat

Neither, carry an XDM ;)


50 posted on 08/07/2012 4:32:24 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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