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Mitt Romney Comes Out in Support of Homosexual Boy Scout Leaders, Members
Christian News ^ | August 6, 2012 | Heather Clark

Posted on 08/07/2012 6:36:10 AM PDT by xzins

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To: Sola Veritas
You are in serious denial, and in that posture, you not only hurt Romney--which is obviously part of your intention;--but hurt the ability of all of us to win over those who have bought into the Leftwing social dogma that is undermining America. We have to persuade a great many, who do not now agree with us, or all is going to be lost.

Of course, Romney has strengths. How do you think he has succeeded in business, in politics, with the Olympics. In the areas that have drawn his attention, he has focused on the controlling facts. His statement about the Boy Scouts suggests that it is very possible that he has not considered the actual underlying factors involved; factors discussed in Boy Scouts.

But, if our only approach is to insult all those who are not completely with us, we are not going to get their attention in the right way.

Every time that Romney succeeded in any venture, he did so by being subject to some form of persuasion. He didn't just flip a coin; he analyzed something. We need to politely get him to analyze the issues on which he is not with us. That may be difficult; but the idea of giving the Left another 4 years to undermine the possibility of ever restoring traditional values can not be acceptable.

William Flax

341 posted on 08/07/2012 2:26:11 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: MEG33
I agree with your points. I would urge you to support my effort to get Conservatives to persistently, politely & persuasively work on Gov. Romney's strengths in an effort to move him in the right direction. This business of hissing insults at the man, is not the way to influence him or anyone else.

We have no choice--if we would restore the America of the Founding Fathers--but to persuade everyone that we can; not by shouting insults, but by doing our best to focus attention on the underlying factors. Our position is indeed the right one--the one based upon all human experience. We will win anyone whom we can get to focus on what is valid in the human experience.

See Romney for why I believe that Romney can be reached.

William Flax

342 posted on 08/07/2012 2:38:47 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

Excellent!


343 posted on 08/07/2012 2:49:25 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: RatRipper

“Not my understanding and they are most often housed with a Christian Church.”

It’s a fact. The BSA and/or the World Scouting Movement do not have as a requirement that you must be Christian.

In fact, Baden Powell specifically mentioned that AS LONG AS people believed in some sort of supreme being - something greater than themselves - then there was a chance that people from different cultures could come together under the precepts of the Scout Law and Oath.

Atheists are a different matter. Anyone who believes they themselves are the supreme being, well . . .

Churches here in the US do make good Charter Partners, however, there is no requirement that the members of the Troop or Pack belong to that Church, or even that religion.


344 posted on 08/07/2012 2:51:47 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: mojitojoe; BlatherNaut; trisham; Finny; Windflier; A. Patriot; muawiyah; MEG33; xzins; ...





I know you are one of the good guys mojito, but this must be repeated...



BTW, I actually got Photoshop to run on Linux!!!

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SO happy.. maybe I can start working on the pics I promised some FReepers now.. Could never get used to GIMP :p and it is not as flexible as PS.
Honestly, scared to close it in case it doesn't run again :^p
345 posted on 08/07/2012 2:56:25 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: xzins

Anyone voting for Mittens is voting for a liberal.

Worse - anyone voting for Mittens is voting for a liberal calling himself a Conservative (a severe one).


346 posted on 08/07/2012 2:57:59 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: mojitojoe
Mojitojoe, sorry ~ you're the only Obot I've run into lately. And that's even after visits to the Washington Post threads so I will know what they're harping on.

The big topic over there seems to be this idea that Romney is some sort of Conservative ~ what kind they can't imagine, but they're sure he must be only because he's opposing Obama.

It's all very IGNANT of them, but you seem to think there are only two sides here ~ (1) The antichrist the Dems are backing, and (2) The businessman you are backing.

Actually, they're both acolytes of the exact same antichrist ~ so that's only one side.

The OTHER SIDE are the folks in the Republican party or other Conservative or Traditionalist movements who are telling you Republicans are making a fatal mistake if they run Romney.

This must stop now or we are doomed.

347 posted on 08/07/2012 2:58:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MEG33
MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)

Meg, Why would God guide our nation if we won't obey Him. He did not say it's ok to replace one wicked person for another.

Ahab was an evil king. He allowed babies to be sacrificed (abortion today) to idols. When his son became king, Hezekiah, he listened to the prophet Isaiah & decided to obey God, even though it looked like his country was going to be destroyed if he did not compromise. He stood firm and choose to fear God rather than man, and because he did, God saved the whole nation and blessed it. How can we expect God to bless us or heal our nation if we accept sin in our own ranks?

I understand people's fears, but I fear God more and know that nothing good can come from accepting ANY evil. The gop has made it clear that romney was their choice and set this whole thing up so we would feel we have no opinions. We are doing exactly what they want, even when we know Romney is evil. We are suppose to use wisdom and discernment when making important decisions. If he was a democrat, would our side condemn him for being pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage/adoption? If I vote for Romney, I would be a hypocrite if I ever spoke badly about a pro-abortion or pro-homosexual marriage/adoption politician running against our guy. The media knows this and will point out our hypocrisy.

348 posted on 08/07/2012 3:04:03 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: Ron H.
We have a crowd of rich guys who up until recently were funding Democrats. Now they're tossing their money at Romney ~

They have brought some of their more unsettling anti-democratic ideas with them.

What they don't understand is we ordinarily don't just crown some guy king, or prince of thieves, and run with him. You have to show us something first ~ and so far Romney has nothing whatsoever to show.

349 posted on 08/07/2012 3:04:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

We have a better chance of changing things with Romney and Conservatives in Congress to keep him in check. With Obama, ALL BETS ARE OFF he wins again. He will try executive orders for everything and continue crapping on the Constitution.


350 posted on 08/07/2012 3:08:25 PM PDT by bjcoop
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To: Ohioan

Drawing on literature for a model, Romney is pretty obviously a Faust.


351 posted on 08/07/2012 3:10:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Finny

Dream on.

Clinton is nothing like 0bama. No one comes near what 0bama is.
Hysteria my azz. I’m looking at reality.

If you can’t see it now, dream on—just like 0bama wants you to do.


352 posted on 08/07/2012 3:13:19 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's Welfare, Food Stamps, Division and Disability 'Legacy')
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To: bjcoop
The simple truth is that unless you reduce the Democrats to less than 1/4 of the House of Representatives, they will be around to form a ruling coalition with the RINOs, and they, in turn will, with Romney, hand in paw, do essentially the same nonsense Obama would do.

The RINOs will not cooperate so readily with a President Obama.

Obviously it's time for Romney to gracefully step off the political stage, go away, and allow honest people to move on with taking our country back from the evil people presently running the Democrat party.

There's simply no alternative to that.

353 posted on 08/07/2012 3:16:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: xzins

Thanks XZINS! Appreciate the feedback.


354 posted on 08/07/2012 3:22:23 PM PDT by Moleman
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To: muawiyah

I’m voting for Romney because we cannot afford 4 more years of the socialist dictator. I’m not gambling with our country’s future by staying home


355 posted on 08/07/2012 3:28:52 PM PDT by bjcoop
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To: Linda Frances

You speak the truth. What the ABOs can’t figure out is that if the GOPe can manipulate them into supporting this”lesser evil”, then at the end of this run there’s another comprimise they won’t have the moral courage to refuse. If they won’t stand now, they never will.


356 posted on 08/07/2012 3:35:59 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: BlatherNaut
Got news for you. Romney is a tool alright -- the right tool to continue the job the liberals started. And if you think Republican-empowered Congress would be so limpid as to not oppose a weak, plurality-elected Obama from continuing his damage, how can you think they wouldn't roll over just as easily to Romney? Romney has an established record of advancing and promoting every single major liberal agenda, from state-run health care to activist judges to global warming regulation. You wish Republicans will "hold his feet to the fire" when he continues on the path he has ALWAYS taken -- yet you are confident they would NEVER oppose or confront a defensive, weak Obama.

You can keep posting all the Romney apologist crap about how, gosh, he really tried to stop all this gay agenda stuff, but he just kept being overridden!!! ... but the reality is that he has advanced and supported the gay agenda at every turn. It's in the legislation he was responsible for, in his words, his speeches, and on his stationery, with his signature, and in press releases sent out by his people.

LOOK AT THE MAN'S RECORD. Actions speak louder than words. His actions from the start have been those of a liberal Democrat statist. Wishing this wasn't so doesn't change a thing. ABOers claim to live in "Realville," the truth is they live in "Wishville." Folks in Realville have faced the fact that Romney is a liberal Democrat registered as a Republican, and that voting for liberals, including Romney, guarantees a bad outcome. Therefore the smartest thing to do is to vote such as to weaken whichever liberal wins.

In Wishville, though, you can just wish it away -- today. If the bastard gets elected on a landlide, you in Wishville will be wishing you never heard of Romney, let alone voted for him, because HE WOULD BETRAY YOU.

Obama was "Hope and Change." Romney is "Hope he'll Change." We know how the first one worked out.

357 posted on 08/07/2012 3:37:00 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: BlatherNaut
“I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue,” Romney stated. So do I.

So do I.

358 posted on 08/07/2012 3:39:32 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's Welfare, Food Stamps, Division and Disability 'Legacy')
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To: bjcoop
You get the same thing with Obama or Romney ~ if you think that's a socialist dictator, then that's what you're voting for, and campaigning for.

I think we need a different candidate. End of story. The GOP-e delivers or we'll have to move on to Phase II.

They're not in it.

359 posted on 08/07/2012 4:03:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Romney is not a narcissist like Obama. I cannot risk having him win another term and have him suspend the Constitution and install a police state. If you don’t think that’s possible, I think you’re mistaken.


360 posted on 08/07/2012 4:08:38 PM PDT by bjcoop
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