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Woman mentioned in Anti-Romney Priorities ad died in '06
POLITICO ^ | 08/07/2012 | Alexander Burns

Posted on 08/07/2012 11:01:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The pro-Obama super PAC Priorities USA Action lobbed a heavy-duty attack at Mitt Romney this morning, airing an ad that links the closure of a GST Steel plant in Kansas City to the loss of a family’s health insurance — and the death of a woman some time later.

The man speaking in the ad, Joe Soptic, says, “Mitt Romney and Bain closed the plant, I lost my health care and my family lost their health care. And a short time after that my wife became ill.” Soptic explains he’s not exactly sure when his wife became sick, but that when he took her to the hospital she had undetected, advanced cancer and died 22 days later.

The Romney campaign has pushed back on other GST Steel-related attacks by arguing that the plant in Kansas City closed after he stepped away from his management job at Bain. (Democrats counter that Romney was still listed as a top executive at Bain through 2002, and that he built up the private equity firm during the time it invested in GST Steel.)

In the case of this particularly jarring super PAC ad, it may also be relevant that Soptic’s wife died in 2006, years after the GST factory closed down.

A 2006 story in the Kansas City Star reported the death of Ranae Soptic, a former champion roller skater: “Soptic went to the hospital for pneumonia, but doctors found signs of very advanced cancer, and she died two weeks later on June 22.”

I asked Priorities USA strategist Bill Burton to explain the connection between Romney, Bain and a cancer fatality that happened near the end of Romney’s tenure as governor of Massachusetts. The lapse in time between the plant closing and Soptic’s death doesn’t mean the ad is invalid, but it raises questions about the cause and effect relationship here.

“We’re illustrating how long it took for communities and individuals to recover from the closing of these businesses,” Burton responded. “Families and individuals had to find new jobs, new sources of health insurance and a way to make up for the pensions they lost. Mitt Romney has had an enduring impact on the lives of thousands of men and women and for many of them, that impact has been devastating.”

Like most of the outside-group ads in the 2012 race, the fairness of this one is open to interpretation. But both the Priorities attack and the new welfare-themed hit on Obama from the Romney campaign are provoking more intense outrage — both publicly and privately — than most of the other spots we’ve seen this summer.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ad; obama; romney

1 posted on 08/07/2012 11:01:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Now that I think of it. There were Obituaries in the Boston newspapers every day that Romney was governor.


2 posted on 08/07/2012 11:03:34 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: SeekAndFind

If he didn’t have health care why did he take her to the hospital? I know, I know.......


3 posted on 08/07/2012 11:03:42 AM PDT by day10 (Integrity has no need of rules.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So Romney, the felon, is now responsible for causing cancer - in between masquerading as Romneyhood.

And yet Obama’s radical background can not be touched.

I saw this movie in 2008. I know how it ends.


4 posted on 08/07/2012 11:06:34 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: SeekAndFind

You mean to tell me that pond scum Romney and Bain Capital do not convey immortality on anyone who works for them and their families?

So if anyone who worked at Solyndra, or any of their dependents die before 2016, we can blame it on Obama.


5 posted on 08/07/2012 11:06:48 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: SeekAndFind

By now someone must have documented the loss of jobs, health care, retirement benefits of those new car dealerships closed by Obama; and the same losses of the non-union GM employees as a result of GM being “saved” by Obama.


6 posted on 08/07/2012 11:08:54 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Hell Obama isn't even associated with US soldiers deaths - nary a peep from the media or we just hear about NATO troops...
7 posted on 08/07/2012 11:12:54 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: SeekAndFind

What am I missing here? The article doesn’t make sense. If the husband was unemployed and w/o health insurance, the family could have been put on Medicaid.


8 posted on 08/07/2012 11:13:18 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: SeekAndFind

This is one of the two areas Romney is vulnerable, the other being Romneycare. For the last 20 years it has been the accepted general business practice to close US based operations and move offshore and I am sure that Bain did their share. Romney needs to figure out how to handle this or the liberals will beat him to death with it. Santorum tried to bring this up many times.


9 posted on 08/07/2012 11:13:18 AM PDT by vet7279
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
and the same losses of the non-union GM employees as a result of GM being “saved” by Obama.

I read recently that 20,000 non-union GMers lost their
pensions as BHO stole GM from the owners and gave it to the UAW.

10 posted on 08/07/2012 11:15:11 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: massgopguy

Conveniently unspoken in this whole GST Steel thing is that Bain CARRIED THEM FOR EIGHT FREAKIN’ YEARS before finally pulling the plug!!!!!


11 posted on 08/07/2012 11:16:20 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: SeekAndFind
Soptic’s wife died in 2006, years after the GST factory closed down.

So, help me figure out what the democrats are saying here.....

If someone loses a job and dies years later, the ex-employer is now considered a murderer?

Uh.....we've had over 8% unemployment for almost 4 years now because of democrat policies. How many people have died in the last 4 years? Wouldn't that make Oboma a mass murderer?

12 posted on 08/07/2012 11:16:57 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: day10

“If he didn’t have health care why did he take her to the hospital”

That is a good point. She thought she had pneumonia and he took her to the hospital and she was admitted. While checking out the pneumonia they found out she had an advanced stage of cancer. The whole charge about Mitt is absurd.


13 posted on 08/07/2012 11:17:06 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama’s Typical White Grandmother died right after Mitt Romney made an unsuccessful bid for the 2008 Presidential nomination. I'm sensing a connection there, as well.
14 posted on 08/07/2012 11:18:09 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: vet7279
Sorry, you're wrong in your assumption that Romney as head of Bain must have been involved in offshoring jobs. It was not part of their practice while he was running things. It did become more prevalent after he left the management there.
15 posted on 08/07/2012 11:18:50 AM PDT by DJtex
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To: SeekAndFind

“Soptic explains he’s not exactly sure when his wife became sick, but that when he took her to the hospital she had undetected, advanced cancer and died 22 days later.”

It’s a mistake for the GOP to not take this ad and fire it right back at the Dems.


16 posted on 08/07/2012 11:19:07 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (OWS = The Great American Snivel War)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cancer aside, under Obamacare, if he wasn’t carrying the mandated insurance the IRS would come looking for him to fine him.


17 posted on 08/07/2012 11:20:58 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: massgopguy
Now that I think of it. There were Obituaries in the Boston newspapers every day that Romney was governor.

Yes, but surely that had to be George Bush's fault.

18 posted on 08/07/2012 11:21:45 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: SeekAndFind

So when someone in WV, PA or another coal state who has lost their job dies we can blame Obama?


19 posted on 08/07/2012 11:21:52 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney ad in response: Mitt holding poster of a cute dog. “This is Skippy. Skippy is no longer with us because Obama ate him. Yes, Obama is a dog eater. Re-elect him and he may eat your dog. Come to think of it . . the cops have been shooting a lot of dogs lately. Why is that?”


20 posted on 08/07/2012 11:24:09 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: SeekAndFind
It was my understanding that the plant closed in 2001.

This lady was diagnosed in 2006.

The United Steelworkers have a health and welfare fund for their unemployed members, which this family likely had access to.

Under the circumstances described, it seems unlikely that being insured would have made a meaningful difference in survivability.

This ad seems like even more of scam than usual.

21 posted on 08/07/2012 11:26:13 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: SeekAndFind
True story. Back in the 1980's, I got into a discussion with an academic dingbat living off a government grant over how AIDS originated and spread.

She had it on absolute authority that it was a plot by the Reagan administration to reduce the population of minorities, third world people and people of non-traditional sexual orientations. (Seriously, that was the term she used like it was something new instead of something which dated back to the days of Lot and Abraham).

Rather than argue with her head on, I asked her if she believed the scientific data that AIDS originated in Africa. She replied that she did.

Then I asked her how AIDS moved from Africa to the United States. She said that a Reagan Administration funded scientist got it from a monkey and brought it over.

"Through sexual contact?", I asked. "Of course", she replied. "Sex, drug use and blood transfusions were the only way to spread the AIDS virus and sexual contact is the most efficient."

"Interesting", I replied. "How did they know? Did the scientist confess? Did the monkey confess? Or did someone catch them in the act?"

22 posted on 08/07/2012 11:26:34 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind
In the case of this particularly jarring super PAC ad, it may also be relevant that Soptic’s wife died in 2006, years after the GST factory closed down.

2006?

Well in THAT case it is obvious then that it is...(drum roll)...

BUSH'S FAULT!!

23 posted on 08/07/2012 11:26:34 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: BikerJoe
Conveniently unspoken in this whole GST Steel thing is that Bain CARRIED THEM FOR EIGHT FREAKIN’ YEARS before finally pulling the plug!!!!!

So why didn't this guy buy health insurance with his severance checks? It's not like he didn't have an income.

24 posted on 08/07/2012 11:26:38 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: SeekAndFind

So, if it had not been for Romney, GST Steel would still be a viable and thriving company and the woman would still be alive because she would have had health care?BS!


25 posted on 08/07/2012 11:27:31 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: DJtex

Well, I think you need to reexamine your facts. I never said anything about Romney as head of Bain. Romney was working with Bain until 1998. Off shoring began in the mid 80’s and the practice spread like wildfire throughout the 90’s. I have no proof, or interest, of his role but this is politics and the point is he MUST be able to handle this besides responding with “it was his fault” or Romney will loose this election. There are simply too many votes that do not trust him.


26 posted on 08/07/2012 11:28:31 AM PDT by vet7279
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To: SeekAndFind

“OBAMA MYTH: Bankrupting a successful steel mill in Kansas City, MO.

REALITY: The GS Technologies plant that Barack Obama has used to attack Mitt Romney was scheduled to be closed if Romney and his colleagues hadn’t bought the plant and tried to help turn it around.

In 1993, GS Technologies, a company Bain Capital had invested in, purchased a struggling Kansas City steel plant from Armco. Prior to this investment, Armco announced plans to close the Kansas City plant if a buyer could not be found.

This investment – and $170 million in upgrades – kept the Kansas City plant competitive in a tough international market and saved the steel workers’ jobs for eight years.

Two years after Mitt Romney left Bain Capital, the GS Technologies plant was closed because of foreign steel dumping into the U.S. market. Thirty-one other steel companies declared bankruptcy during the same period.”

http://www.mittromney.com/blogs/mitts-view/2012/06/obamas-false-attacks?cct_info=1|25219|7946991837|138422374|7793877934|b|24458078614|tc||g|||&cct_ver=3&cct_bk=gst%20steel&gclid=CJzwmaKT1rECFQtThwodGFAAew


27 posted on 08/07/2012 11:37:12 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Yep he sounds like a lousy husband to boot. What husband doesn’t know when his wife is sickly? And why didn’t he get off his ass and get a new job with insurance in order to provide for his family? He sounds like a first class loser to me. We weren’t in a recession then. He was probably sitting on his ass collecting unemployment.


28 posted on 08/07/2012 11:45:44 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: kalee

The ad is vile and BS, but this new info doesn’t discredit it any more than it has already discredited itself:

Just do a little thinking here:

1) If the woman fell sick just after her husband got laid off, she clearly had cancer while she was insured and didn’t go to a routine checkup WHILE insured.

2) if she contracted cancer AFTER he was laid off and it spread for 4 years that she couldn’t go to a routine checkup, that would help the twisted logic in the commercial.

Bottom line - If you can’t afford $283 per month insurance that is one thing. But one uninsured trip to the doctor for a routine checkup would not cost $300 * 48 months= $14,400. She could have gone once or twice in that time period without breaking the bank.

Plus the whole premise is BS: “She felt sick and didn’t want to go to the Doctor and then she got sick and she went to the Doctor and that’s how we found out”.

Bottom line “she didn’t feel sick and didn’t go to the Doctor and then LATER felt sick AND THEN went to the Doctor, but it was way too late”

Maybe a guy “wouldn’t go to the doctor” but women go when they feel sick.

The whole ad is a scam ( as is most of Obama’s other ads ).


29 posted on 08/07/2012 11:47:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

So the plant was taken over by Bain in 1993, kept runing until 2001. This man’s unfortunate wife died in 2006, shortly after diagnosis.

What was the husband doing from 2001-2006? When did he get laid off? Was he unemployed during that period?

How often did his wife get checkups while he was employed?

Facts don’t count much when you are making a purely emotional atack.


30 posted on 08/07/2012 11:52:04 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: nhwingut

Don’t forget that Romney hates animals and treats them with disdain...well, except for horses, who he will treat better than humans...


31 posted on 08/07/2012 12:00:05 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: nhwingut

No, we watched a different movie in 2008. In that one, the main character didn’t even want to fight whatsoever. In this one, the main character often hits the bad guy, hard. So, no, we don’t know how this one will end.


32 posted on 08/07/2012 12:01:54 PM PDT by paudio (Two stubborn facts remain: (1) Romney is better than 0bama, and (2) Romney is the Republican Nominee)
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To: SeekAndFind

And the HIPAA laws will conveniently prohibit those who have the actual facts of this case from disclosing them.


33 posted on 08/07/2012 12:08:31 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: kitkat
Hubby got a job as a school custodian. I do not know why he did not insure his wife.
34 posted on 08/07/2012 12:29:20 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: SeekAndFind

BTW, I think that Romney should SEAL his Federal and State Tax Records.


35 posted on 08/07/2012 12:32:11 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: BikerJoe
And the union GST workers went on strike for 10 weeks costing millions just before they pulled the plug.

And the wife died of lung cancer, I do not know if she smoked.

36 posted on 08/07/2012 12:32:11 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Do we yet know how this guy is connected to the Democrat Party? Union officer, voter fraud specialist, general chisler?


37 posted on 08/07/2012 12:42:18 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: vet7279

Buy a clue. Romney had been gone from Bain for years and the company was controlled by and Obama money launderer.

This in NOTHING but a LIE. There is NOTHING here except duplicitous crap. It is amazing fools still believe anything these LIARS say, anything.


38 posted on 08/07/2012 12:46:05 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: SeekAndFind
No no NO, that is not how you run a good hit-ad!!!

Here, let me illustrate:

(sad violin music swells up)

Joe Soptic: “Mitt Romney and Bain closed my plant, I lost my job, I lost my health care and my family lost their health care. And a short time after that my wife became ill.”

".....when I took her to the hospital she had undetected, advanced pancreatic cancer and died 22 days later."

"She told me on her death bed that she had voted for Mitt Romney in the last election."

(Booming Voiceover as Soptic cries: "SHE VOTED FOR ROMNEY. THEN SHE GOT PANCREATIC CANCER AND DIED."

"DON'T GET PANCREATIC CANCER AND DIE. VOTE OBAMA IN 2012."

"I'm Barack Obama, and if you don't vote for me, I approve the probability that you will get pancreatic cancer and die."


39 posted on 08/07/2012 1:05:52 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I love the Universe, and it loves me.)
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To: arrogantsob
Not sure why such a wild reaction to simply stating that Romney needs to get a response... here are the facts! ..Romney took a paid leave of absence from Bain Capital in February 1999 to serve as the President and CEO of the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympic Games Organizing Committee. Billed in some public statements as keeping a part-time role, Romney remained the firm's CEO and sole shareholder, signing corporate and legal documents, attending to his interests within the firm, and conducting prolonged negotiations for the terms of his departure. He was not involved in day-to-day operations or in investment decisions for Bain Capital's next private equity fund, which was launched in 2000. In August 2001, Romney announced that he would not return to Bain Capital. His separation from the firm was finalized in early 2002; he transferred his ownership to other partners and negotiated an agreement that allowed him to receive a passive profit share as a retired partner in some Bain Capital entities, including buyout and investment funds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_romney
40 posted on 08/07/2012 1:36:02 PM PDT by vet7279
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To: SeekAndFind

JUST THINK WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENNED IF 0BAMA RAN BAIN CAPITAL!

HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE KILLED ON 0BAMA-CARE WHEN THE GOVERNMENT DENIES SERVICES TO THE ELDERLY AND CHRONICALLY ILL THROUGH THE IPAB RATIONING BOARD?


41 posted on 08/07/2012 1:37:17 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: Lazamataz

Re-read your post in Harry Reid’s voice and you have just described his next press conference.


42 posted on 08/07/2012 1:50:12 PM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: vet7279

If Obama can get Romney dancing to his tune he is done for given the abject stupidity of the American voter.

These LIARS will concoct a Lie-A-Minute of the “Have you stopped beating your wife?” variety and will with the enema-media grind even someone as mild mannered and unflappable as Romney down.

Bain in NO way drove this company out of business. EVERY word from the RATS is a lie.

They are constructing a False Reality right before your eyes, don’t help them.


43 posted on 08/07/2012 4:24:23 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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