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Sikh temple shootings: Extremist groups recruit from US military ranks
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | Tuesday, August 7, 2012 | Anna Mulrine

Posted on 08/07/2012 2:07:27 PM PDT by Jyotishi

Investigation into the background of alleged shooter Wade Michael Page highlights practice of extremist groups to target prospects with a military background.

Are white supremacists recruiting from within the ranks of the US military?

That question – revived by killings at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin this week – has been the fear of civil rights groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, who have warned that hate groups encourage their members to join up for training and experience that they can later use to perpetrate crimes in the United States.

A former white supremacist who now trains the US military on how to recognize racism within its ranks, T.J. Leyden says he has been brought to military installations to educate service members who are concerned about troops becoming involved with gangs and neo-Nazi activities. “They want to know how to combat it,” he says, “and what they should be looking for.”

Mr. Leyden says he was encouraged to join the US Marines after becoming a skinhead. “The older guys in the white supremacy world were talking about it all the time,” he said. “They say, ‘This is a great option – you get some training.’ ”

They also recruit from among the US military. “A lot of the major white supremacy groups, they have chapters right outside military installations,” Leyden says. “They want people with military backgrounds.”

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: military; recruiting; shooting; sikh; skinheads; wisconsin
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1 posted on 08/07/2012 2:07:33 PM PDT by Jyotishi
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To: Jyotishi

Jihadist groups recruit blacks from within prisons. Just sayin’.


2 posted on 08/07/2012 2:09:39 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Natural Born Citizen - born in the USA of citizen parents.)
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To: Jyotishi
Sounds like another excuse for Ø to downsize the military a/o replace it with his own civilian stormtroopers.

"Never let a crisis go to waste" /s

3 posted on 08/07/2012 2:11:31 PM PDT by lightman (One of the marks of the Beast is a white lower case "f" on a blue square.)
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To: Jyotishi

I would LOVE to see the NRA offer to train the Sikhs in the safe and legal use of firearms to protect themselves.

This incident should prove to the Sikhs, and everyone else, that the police can not protect you from violence.

Citizens, trained and armed, are the only protection for their family and loved ones.

That’s the way it’s done here in America; welcome.


4 posted on 08/07/2012 2:11:31 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: Jyotishi

Oh — bulls—t.

They guy had a DISHONORABLE discharge, YEARS ago. A stateside shrink.

I primarily work on USA military bases. I am openly and obviously a Jew. An Israeli Jew, at that, frequently in Israeli military uniform.

I have never had a racist word said to me by a member of the USA military.

Now, in Boston, Berkeley, NYC, and Houston?

Yep, primarily by liberals and Holder’s people.


5 posted on 08/07/2012 2:11:40 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jyotishi

Gangland - Basic Training (Gangs in the military)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDdZZizeWdQ

The FBI Announces Gangs Have Infiltrated Every Branch Of The Military
“The FBI has released a new gang assessment announcing that there are 1.4 million gang members in the US, a 40 percent increase since 2009, and that many of these members are getting inside the military...”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2796474/posts


6 posted on 08/07/2012 2:12:19 PM PDT by donna ("...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way..." -Mitt Romney, 2007)
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To: Jyotishi

Liberals claim the tea party is a “racist hate group.”.

I can easily see them using an atrocity like this to purge true patriots from the military.


7 posted on 08/07/2012 2:15:43 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Jyotishi
Did anyone else notice that before anything about the dead suspect in the shootings was known the MSM was identifying him as a “white supremacist” and the Obama Administration was identifying him as a domestic terrorist and saying he was politically motivated? The Obama Administration was also saying this shows the need for more gun control. They also said they knew the suspect thought he was killing Muslims.

I'm not saying I know what happened, but this sure looks like a false flag operation to me.

“Never let a crisis go to waste.” Rahm Emmanuel. Especially not a crisis the Obama people themselves created.

8 posted on 08/07/2012 2:16:26 PM PDT by detective
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To: Darteaus94025

> I would LOVE to see the NRA offer to train the Sikhs in the
> safe and legal use of firearms to protect themselves.

We all need to train up to and then maintain a certain level of person defense capabilities, especially in this Obama era.


9 posted on 08/07/2012 2:19:45 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi

Actually I suspect that its the other way around. The military recruits and is forced to overlook problematic recruits due to political correctness.

In my opinion, part of the problem is our now perpetual war.


10 posted on 08/07/2012 2:20:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Jyotishi

Extremist groups? Well, I expect GLAAD could get some new members from the latest Obama-era recruits.


11 posted on 08/07/2012 2:29:44 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: SatinDoll

“Jihadist groups recruit blacks from within prisons. Just sayin’.”

It don’t matter. The left desperately needs some racist White Boys to punish. You don’t hear the outrage about the slaughter in the inner cities like you do when the ‘lone nut’ white boy goes on a shooting ‘spree’. The SPLC and assorted ilk will be chiming in shortly. The word is out to pile on and the TV tears will flow.


12 posted on 08/07/2012 2:34:13 PM PDT by dljordan ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.")
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To: detective

> I’m not saying I know what happened, but this sure looks
> like a false flag operation to me.

A part of the following may be true:

BREAKING NEWS: U.S. Military False Flag Terror Attack (Sikh Temple) —— F.B.I. Orchestrated W.T.C. Bombing (93)

By Ras Mikaere Enoch Mc Carty

Aug 6, 7:32 pm
BREAKING NEWS:
SIKH TEMPLE
ANOTHER U.S. MILITARY FALSE FLAG TERRORIST ATTACK
(Milwaukee, WI, U.S.A.)

http://tinyurl.com/9xo3r4e

which is:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.org.nsa.echelon/browse_thread/thread/8069550b88d372b7/18fc140fc81208c7?q=#18fc140fc81208c7


13 posted on 08/07/2012 2:43:01 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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Southern Poverty Law Center!! George Soros and media matters and Center for American Progress. The SPLC is getting HUGE play with this massacre. it’s like they’re all ready to run, are preening as some kind of expert. What a ghastly bunch of ghouls...


14 posted on 08/07/2012 2:51:35 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: jyot

I’m sure the military uses the same scrutiny in screening for black kids who might join the Black Panthers, or Muslim kids who might attend radical mosques, and associate with jihadist groups. Anarchist and Nazi Democrats are probably the least of the military’s worries. There are plenty of kooks to go around, but when one of them gives the Obamabangers an opportunity to beat the drums of white racism, or white gun owners, expect the vitriol to be deafening.


15 posted on 08/07/2012 3:01:17 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Jyotishi
That question – revived by killings at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin this week – has been the fear of civil rights groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, who have warned that hate groups encourage their members to join up for training and experience that they can later use to perpetrate crimes in the United States.

Southern Poverty Law Center - SPLC, founder Morris Dees, is an anti-white, corrupt, tax-exempt 2010 gross receipts $76,608,127, racist scam, better known as $PLC.

Dees has faced criticism that he uses too much of the Southern Poverty Law Center's fundraising intake as personal income - and even accusations that the SPLC exists mostly as a fundraising vehicle. A 2000 article by Ken Silverstein in Harper's Magazine, titled "The Church of Morris Dees", alleged that Dees kept the SPLC focused on fighting anti-minority groups like the KKK, instead of on issues like homelessness, mostly because of the greater fundraising potential of the former.
16 posted on 08/07/2012 3:08:52 PM PDT by caveat emptor (Zippity Do Dah)
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To: Jyotishi
feh...
17 posted on 08/07/2012 3:14:58 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: caveat emptor

“Southern Poverty Law Center - SPLC, founder Morris Dees, is an anti-white, corrupt, tax-exempt 2010 gross receipts $76,608,127, racist scam, better known as $PLC.”

Wasn’t there something years ago about Dees being a pervert?

IN THE ALABAMA COURT OF CIVIL APPEALS

MAUREENE BASS DEES )
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Appellant, )
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-vs- ) CASE NO. CIV. 2114
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MORRIS S. DEES, )
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Appellee. )


18 posted on 08/07/2012 3:18:51 PM PDT by dljordan ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.")
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To: caveat emptor

Thanks for the info. A “poverty law” center talking about a massacre in a temple is odd.


19 posted on 08/07/2012 3:19:49 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: pallis

I knew a pretty powerful Black Panther in the army and I was his student platoon leader, when we went into black bars in the impact area of Lawton, the first reaction would be for the bartender to get hostile because I am white, but after they talked business in the back room, my buddy got great respect, and usually was obviously feared, it was like what you imagine happens with a Mafia figure.

There was also plenty of Black Muslims in the military.

When I was in, black power and militancy was prevailing, at jump school in 1972 we were officially instructed to stay away from the EM club as it had been taken over by black power militants and anti-white violence.


20 posted on 08/07/2012 3:51:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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