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CNN Priorities USA Fact Check (Steelworker's wife 'killed' by Romney quit job w/ health insurance)
CNN via YouTube ^ | Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Posted on 08/07/2012 5:34:00 PM PDT by kristinn

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Kudos to CNN for blowing the whistle on this appalling Obama ad.
1 posted on 08/07/2012 5:34:11 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn
wait...lemme understand this: obama's criticizing romney on healthcare? Isn't that what I see a picture of in the dictionary when I look up "bad idea"?
2 posted on 08/07/2012 5:38:43 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (At what point does an escalated effort to remove this traitor commence, and what form does it take?)
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To: kristinn

Good for CNN.


3 posted on 08/07/2012 5:39:09 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: kristinn

It is nice to know that there is water so vile and polluted, that even CNN won’t carry it.


4 posted on 08/07/2012 5:40:27 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: kristinn

Cobra is there for a reason for those people who value those reasons.

Great ‘slip up’ from CNN :>)


5 posted on 08/07/2012 5:41:16 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: kristinn
Soptic said his wife quit her job a year or two later due to an unspecified injury

What?! This story is going to be complete garbage by the time they get done.

6 posted on 08/07/2012 5:41:45 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: kristinn

When did Romney leave bain?


7 posted on 08/07/2012 5:42:51 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: kristinn

Soptic is a poor excuse for a man.


8 posted on 08/07/2012 5:43:26 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: kristinn

Joe Soptic pimped his dead wife. Typical rat.


9 posted on 08/07/2012 5:43:41 PM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: kristinn

Here’s the video:

http://youtu.be/nwOtT3PjP-0


10 posted on 08/07/2012 5:43:41 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: kristinn
Mark Levin covering this on his show now.

The lies piled up in the ad are despicable and besmirch the memory of the steelworker's wife.

11 posted on 08/07/2012 5:43:41 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Keep feeding yourselves lies and screaming for action.)
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To: kristinn

Hmmmmm, is CNN trying to turn around it continuing slide in the ratings? Telling the truth is a step in the right direction.


12 posted on 08/07/2012 5:43:59 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: kristinn

I just heard this on Mark Levin show. WOWOWOWOWOW!!!


13 posted on 08/07/2012 5:44:16 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: kristinn
Wow, so Messina sold Bobo on stale untrue ads? Because Joe Septic has been around and around before.

I swear Clinton must be pissing himself laughing at these clowns...

14 posted on 08/07/2012 5:46:29 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: kristinn

Today Rush posed the question: how should Romney respond to this kind of baloney?

The answer is: Don’t continue the narrative. Respond with something that turns the accusation back on Obama.


15 posted on 08/07/2012 5:46:54 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: SCalGal; fhayek; All
Here's the link to CNN's article and an excerpt:

Romney stopped his day-to-day oversight at Bain Capital in 1999 when he left to run the Salt Lake City Olympics, though he officially remained CEO until 2002. Bain Capital shut down GST Steel in 2001, costing Soptic his job.

According to Mr. Soptic, his wife received her primary insurance through her employer – a local thrift store called Savers – and retained it even after his layoff. Soptic's policy through GST Steel was her secondary coverage.

In 2002, Mitt Romney formally left Bain. Sometime in 2002 or 2003, Mr. Soptic says his wife injured her rotator cuff and was forced to leave her job. As a result she lost her health insurance coverage and Mr. Soptic's new job as a janitor did not provide coverage for his spouse.

It was a few years later, in 2006, that Ilyona Soptic went to the hospital with symptoms of pneumonia. She was diagnosed with stage four cancer and passed away just days later.

16 posted on 08/07/2012 5:48:11 PM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: kristinn
So if CNN is shining a light on the man and his misguided blame on Romney does that mean that Obama is trying to distance himself from this ad? After all CNN works for Obama
17 posted on 08/07/2012 5:49:12 PM PDT by funfan
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18 posted on 08/07/2012 5:50:41 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: kristinn

You can always count on OBots to lie.


19 posted on 08/07/2012 5:51:00 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: reasonisfaith

There is some fun going on on twitter right now for those that want to join. #OctoberObamaAds

Pretty funny stuff...lol


20 posted on 08/07/2012 5:51:35 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: jwalsh07; All
According to National Review, the late wife being used as a political football by the Democrats and her husband was named Ranae Soptic.
21 posted on 08/07/2012 5:51:51 PM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

This is incredible and despicable doesn’t even begin to describe it. It’s slander and libel with malicious intent and someone needs to pay for this.


22 posted on 08/07/2012 5:55:29 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: kristinn

Did Joe find another job before his wife quit her job? Also, how long till someone divulges the unspecified injury she sustained?


23 posted on 08/07/2012 5:56:14 PM PDT by Boojum
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To: kristinn
Mark Levin just reported that CNN has a story that totally debunks this video.

He stated that when the husband lost his job the wife was still employed elsewhere and had medical insurance through her employer. Sometime later she voluntarily quit her job and lost her health insurance. It was after she left her job that she discovered she had cancer.

This will be al over the news tomorrow but the seed has been planted by this filthy, underhanded video.

Woman Mentioned In Priorities Ad Died In '06 (Politico)

The pro-Obama super PAC Priorities USA Action lobbed a heavy-duty attack at Mitt Romney this morning, airing an ad that links the closure of a GST Steel plant in Kansas City to the loss of a family’s health insurance — and the death of a woman some time later.

The man speaking in the ad, Joe Soptic, says, “Mitt Romney and Bain closed the plant, I lost my health care and my family lost their health care. And a short time after that my wife became ill.” Soptic explains he’s not exactly sure when his wife became sick, but that when he took her to the hospital she had undetected, advanced cancer and died 22 days later.

The Romney campaign has pushed back on other GST Steel-related attacks by arguing that the plant in Kansas City closed after he stepped away from his management job at Bain. (Democrats counter that Romney was still listed as a top executive at Bain through 2002, and that he built up the private equity firm during the time it invested in GST Steel.)

In the case of this particularly jarring super PAC ad, it may also be relevant that Soptic’s wife died in 2006, years after the GST factory closed down.

A 2006 story in the Kansas City Star reported the death of Ranae Soptic, a former champion roller skater: “Soptic went to the hospital for pneumonia, but doctors found signs of very advanced cancer, and she died two weeks later on June 22.”

I asked Priorities USA strategist Bill Burton to explain the connection between Romney, Bain and a cancer fatality that happened near the end of Romney’s tenure as governor of Massachusetts. The lapse in time between the plant closing and Soptic’s death doesn’t mean the ad is invalid, but it raises questions about the cause and effect relationship here.

“We’re illustrating how long it took for communities and individuals to recover from the closing of these businesses,” Burton responded. “Families and individuals had to find new jobs, new sources of health insurance and a way to make up for the pensions they lost. Mitt Romney has had an enduring impact on the lives of thousands of men and women and for many of them, that impact has been devastating.”

Like most of the outside-group ads in the 2012 race, the fairness of this one is open to interpretation. But both the Priorities attack and the new welfare-themed hit on Obama from the Romney campaign are provoking more intense outrage — both publicly and privately — than most of the other spots we’ve seen this summer.


24 posted on 08/07/2012 5:57:47 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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When did Romney leave bain?

Romney took a leave of absence from Bain in February, 1999 to run the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics.

Upon the successful completion of the Olympics, he resigned from Bain.

25 posted on 08/07/2012 5:58:01 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE002)
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To: kristinn

Once again, excellent post.
Thank you for doing what you do, Kristinn.

What WE need to do is go on our local news sites that have message boards and, “Special Investigative Reporters,” and post this there for their, “Fact check,” articles.

Start the debate. Open people’s eyes.
Don’t let them get away with their crap.
Here’s my example:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/politics/31338921/detail.html


26 posted on 08/07/2012 5:58:44 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Obama hates Mexicans (Fast and Furious))
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To: kristinn

What’s next thing the Obamatons will accuse Romney of doing: volcanic eruptions, floods, earthquakes, mass starvation, the heartbreak of psoriasis?


27 posted on 08/07/2012 5:59:12 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: kristinn

This whole thing should fall under some criminal code...this is outrageous!!!!


28 posted on 08/07/2012 5:59:46 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: SCalGal

Yep..gotta give them kudos here although they left out the fact that Obama’s million dollar bundler was running Bain at the time.


29 posted on 08/07/2012 6:03:51 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: kristinn

Just watched the CNN video...HA! No wonder Carney didn’t answer that question today at the presser...


30 posted on 08/07/2012 6:05:32 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: IrishPennant

Sununu is on Hannity right now answering this lieing ad. I do not think he and Hannity have heard yet that CNN debunked it as a lie. LOL!!! Maybe Mark Levin can text message Hannity.


31 posted on 08/07/2012 6:05:32 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: fhayek
It is nice to know that there is water so vile and polluted, that even CNN won’t carry it.

Color me surprised. Maybe Obama rejected Clinton and this is payback. Hard to believe CNN is capable of anything close to honest journalism...Time will tell.

32 posted on 08/07/2012 6:05:41 PM PDT by GOPJ (..convinced if you put a compass in the hands of a liberal, it will point south -Fr Neveronmywatch)
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To: kristinn

That is bad when a Dem tells a lie so big that even CNN won’t cover for him.


33 posted on 08/07/2012 6:09:42 PM PDT by TomGuy
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Can Obama’s staff be so incompetant and stupid that no one there realized this would come out and backfire like this?

I hope so

They still think the media is carrying their water


34 posted on 08/07/2012 6:10:47 PM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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You’d think with this rotten fish under a White House carpet somewhere, ‘Bammy’d be a little more careful about commenting on ANY government involvement in broke/closing businesses..

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=209811


35 posted on 08/07/2012 6:11:22 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: funfan

More precisely, CNN works for liberals. Not necessarily for Obama, who is harming liberalism.


36 posted on 08/07/2012 6:11:22 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama 07/22/12: "we all reflect on how we can do something about some of the senseless violence...")
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To: kristinn

I am on Twitter and following Mark Levin and the Right Scoop. They just sent out tweets on this and I retweeted it. I don’t have a lot of followers but I do my part.


37 posted on 08/07/2012 6:17:47 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: kristinn

I’ve heard of someone being partisan but this really takes the cake that you would twist your own personal tragedy like this to help any political candidate. There is absolutely no factual basis for any of the allegations in attempting to attach this to Romney - not even the closing of the plant because not only was Romney gone at the time it went belly up, it would have gone belly up even sooner without Bain’s intervention to try to keep it afloat. Since she had her own insurance he wouldn’t have even likely had her added on to his own insurance as a “family plan” at the time he was laid off anyway...this is wrong on so many levels - factually and morally. This takes this campaign even further into the gutter than thought possible.


38 posted on 08/07/2012 6:19:08 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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I wonder how MSNBC will cover this? Justin Bieber’s twin and Mathews will try their level best to fly cover.


39 posted on 08/07/2012 6:20:45 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Iron Munro

I see the loathsome Bill Burton has slimed his way into the campaign.


40 posted on 08/07/2012 6:21:48 PM PDT by allblues
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To: kristinn
It was a few years later, in 2006, that Ilyona Soptic went to the hospital with symptoms of pneumonia. She was diagnosed with stage four cancer and passed away just days later.

Then no amount of health insurance coverage would have even made a difference even if all of the other allegations / inferences we are supposed to believe were true (which none of them are).

This is beyond disgusting.

41 posted on 08/07/2012 6:23:27 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: kristinn

As Rush would say, CNN just committed a random act of journalism.


42 posted on 08/07/2012 6:23:38 PM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Boojum
See my update here at comment #16.
43 posted on 08/07/2012 6:24:25 PM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: kristinn

Pretty irresponsible of a husband/family not to have healthcare. I guess he didn’t know how to function out of his union element.


44 posted on 08/07/2012 6:28:32 PM PDT by Toespi
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SOOOO...I have only one question...

Is Mitt Romney planning to run an ad TOMORROW on every single station this despicable ad ran, blasting the lies and BLAMING OBAMA DIRECTLY for the ad?

If not, why not?

45 posted on 08/07/2012 6:31:08 PM PDT by montag813
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To: kristinn

You know things are bad for Obama when even CNN calls him a lying sack of sh*t


46 posted on 08/07/2012 6:33:21 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: montag813

>> If not, why not?

Because CNN just defused a potential disaster for Obama.


47 posted on 08/07/2012 6:34:04 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: kristinn

I’m not buyin’ it. There’s no way she could have seen a doctor in 2006 if she had no insurance. No insurance = no access to healthcare. That is why they passed obamacare. /sarc


48 posted on 08/07/2012 6:34:42 PM PDT by JoeRed
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I’m not buyin’ it. There’s no way she could have seen a doctor in 2006 if she had no insurance. No insurance = no access to healthcare. That is why they passed obamacare. /sarc


49 posted on 08/07/2012 6:35:09 PM PDT by JoeRed
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CNN is realizing that Obama has lost the “Mandate of Heaven”.


50 posted on 08/07/2012 6:41:09 PM PDT by AU72
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