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Police Charge New Haven Man Who Took Handgun to 'Dark Knight' Showing (New Haven, CT)
WPIX / Hartford Courant ^ | 8/8/2012 | Staff Report

Posted on 08/08/2012 6:35:45 AM PDT by Celerity

Staff report The Hartford Courant 8:09 a.m. EDT, August 8, 2012

NEW HAVEN— Police rushed to a Temple Street movie theater shortly after 10 p.m. Tuesday after receiving calls of an armed man in the theater.

The first arriving officers searched the Criterion - Bow Tie Cinemas at 86 Temple St., where patrons said they'd seen the man with a gun in a holster. They first searched a theater where "The Watch" was being shown, then found him in a neighboring theater where the Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises" had not yet begun.

Officers went into the theater, ordered the approximately 12 patrons to put their hands up, and had them file out of the theater. They were then patted down as they passed.

When officers identified the armed man, they drew their weapons and ordered him to put his hands up. He did not comply with the officers' orders and remained in his seat while using his cell phone, police said.

Officers then took him into custody "by force," police said. Officers removed a loaded handgun from the man's waistband at the small of his back, police said. He was handcuffed and removed from the theater.

The armed man was identified as Sung H. Hwang, 46, of New Haven. Police said he has a valid state permit to carry a pistol. Police said he never touched the gun or presented a threat to patrons, but noted that people were on alert because of the mass shooting at a showing of "The Dark Knight Rises" in Colorado.

Hwang was charged with breach of peace and interfering with police.

New Haven Chief Dean M. Esserman, who responded to the scene, met with the nearly 20 officers and two sergeants who responded to the call and praised them for their fast response. Several Yale University police officers also responded.

Copyright © 2012, The Hartford Courant


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: banglist; rkba; secondamendment; theater
I'm sure there will be further investigation, but on the first glance - I fail to see what this guy did wrong.

Besides being in New Haven Connecticut.

1 posted on 08/08/2012 6:35:53 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

Sue their asses off.


2 posted on 08/08/2012 6:43:19 AM PDT by Third Person ( A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: Celerity
I fail to see what this guy did wrong.

Well, this is a BIG no-no:

When officers identified the armed man, they drew their weapons and ordered him to put his hands up. He did not comply with the officers' orders and remained in his seat while using his cell phone, police said.

New Haven is a pit of filth.....I rarely go, but when I do, I am always carrying.

3 posted on 08/08/2012 6:44:22 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Celerity

he legally and smartly took a weapon to a showing of the film.

the criminal act was committed by the jack booted thugs.


4 posted on 08/08/2012 6:44:30 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Celerity

One time several decades ago a cop carried a gun in his waistband into our little movie theater. He shot himself in the leg.


5 posted on 08/08/2012 6:48:12 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Puppage
"He did not comply with the officers' orders and remained in his seat while using his cell phone, police said."

While I fully support his 2nd Amendment rights, I have little sympathy for people speaking on cell phones during a movie.

6 posted on 08/08/2012 6:51:05 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Third Person

Sue their asses off.

How can he sue? He clearly did not listen to them. He won’t be charge for a firearm crime but disobeying a cop? I think even a jury would find him guilty. “they drew their weapons and ordered him to put his hands up. He did not comply with the officers’ orders and remained in his seat while using his cell phone,”


7 posted on 08/08/2012 6:51:54 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: Celerity
New Haven Chief Dean M. Esserman, who responded to the scene, met with the nearly 20 officers and two sergeants who responded to the call and praised them for their fast response.

He won't be so happy when Hwang hits them with a multi-million dollar civil rights violation lawsuit.

8 posted on 08/08/2012 6:53:01 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Celerity

Law abiding armed folk should always comply with police instruction. Unless a responding officer knows (well) the individual in question, the default position is to assume the worst. Better in nips than in the ground. Would have likely avoided any charges as well.

As to the charges, are they severe enough for the fellow to lose his permission to carry? Another reason to comply.


9 posted on 08/08/2012 6:55:41 AM PDT by petro45acp ("Don't" read 'HOPE' by L Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman...it will bring tears to eyes. BORE!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Joe 6-pack
The article says the movie hadn't started yet.

If it had he should have been taken out back and beaten. ;^)

10 posted on 08/08/2012 6:57:00 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
found him in a neighboring theater where the Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises" had not yet begun.
11 posted on 08/08/2012 7:02:12 AM PDT by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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To: Sloth

Lighten up Francis. It was a joke.


12 posted on 08/08/2012 7:11:32 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: petro45acp

If he was retired military and coming out of a Costco in Las Vegas, he’d be dead already. Two years ago now and Vegas LEO have escaped all responsibility.


13 posted on 08/08/2012 7:14:23 AM PDT by George from New England (Ecaped CT in 2006, moved to north of Tampa)
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To: Third Person

The problem he’ll have is that he will most likely lose his permit to carry. It does’nt take much in Connecticut.


14 posted on 08/08/2012 7:15:46 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Celerity

Gee. Golly. What heroes they truly are.

Gosh, good thing we don’t have a Second Amendment or anything of that sort.

I feel safer already. Yep.


15 posted on 08/08/2012 7:26:48 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Celerity

If the guy refused the New Haven, CT cops orders by continuing to talk on the phone the officers should have shot him 40 times on the spot to make certain he wasn’t a threat.

There, problem solved, citizens. Go back to your movie and we’ll make arrangements to clean up the blood and gore later. Have a nice, safe day brought to you courtesy of the NHPD.


16 posted on 08/08/2012 7:38:47 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Celerity

“Officers went into the theater, ordered the approximately 12 patrons to put their hands up, and had them file out of the theater. They were then patted down as they passed.

When officers identified the armed man, they drew their weapons and ordered him to put his hands up. He did not comply with the officers’ orders and remained in his seat while using his cell phone, police said.”

How did they identify the armed man if he was sitting in his seat (probably calling his lawyer)? He was id’d only AFTER they drew their guns, he raised his hands and allowed the gun to be found. Someone’s wrong here—cops or reporter.


17 posted on 08/08/2012 7:53:50 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: napscoordinator
How can he sue? He clearly did not listen to them. He won’t be charge for a firearm crime but disobeying a cop? I think even a jury would find him guilty. “they drew their weapons and ordered him to put his hands up. He did not comply with the officers’ orders and remained in his seat while using his cell phone,”

Unless the guy's got a rap sheet, my instinct is to trust him over the cops. It's wouldn't surprise me if cops routinely made up offenses to go after people who annoy them, especially gun owners. My impression is that very few PD's in blue states support gun ownership. PD's in red states support it because red states tend to turf politicians who interfere with 2nd amendment rights.

18 posted on 08/08/2012 7:58:46 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: napscoordinator
How can he sue? He clearly did not listen to them. He won’t be charge for a firearm crime but disobeying a cop? I think even a jury would find him guilty. “they drew their weapons and ordered him to put his hands up. He did not comply with the officers’ orders and remained in his seat while using his cell phone,”

Well if he tried to follow the cops instructions he may have been shot anyway. With more than one cops most likely he was given multiple conflicting orders.

19 posted on 08/08/2012 9:31:57 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Celerity

Bullsh*t bust and bullsh*t charges. Get a good lawyer and sue the cops for every penny they’re worth.


20 posted on 08/08/2012 10:24:22 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Celerity

Local rag has identified him as an immigration attorney.


21 posted on 08/08/2012 10:42:24 AM PDT by meridenite
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To: Celerity; All
I think I've seen my last movie in a movie theatre, and gone to my last concert and sporting event.

If these bastards can't guarantee my safety, and won't let me take precautions to guarantee it myself, then screw it, I just won't take my family there.

It's just not worth it. Let 'em go out of business. I'll watch DVDs and Netflix at home.

Or go to concerts and events where I can carry, like comedian Tim Hawkins' shows.

22 posted on 08/08/2012 11:08:08 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
"He did not comply with the officers' orders and remained in his seat while using his cell phone, police said."
While I fully support his 2nd Amendment rights, I have little sympathy for people speaking on cell phones during a movie.

Given how it's written he could have been on the phone with his lawyer; if that was the case I'm not going to fault him.

23 posted on 08/08/2012 2:23:07 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: petro45acp
Law abiding armed folk should always comply with police instruction.

What if the cop orders you to undress? what if the cop orders you to rape someone? Always is a pretty strong qualifier.

As to the charges, are they severe enough for the fellow to lose his permission to carry? Another reason to comply.

Permission? You do realize that by making 'permission' a prerequisite [to carrying arms] you are denying that it is a right.

24 posted on 08/08/2012 2:28:35 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Ratman83
With more than one cops most likely he was given multiple conflicting orders.

bingo!

25 posted on 08/08/2012 5:45:12 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Not to mention talking on the cell while cops have guns pointed at you.

The Kenyan must go.

26 posted on 08/08/2012 6:06:45 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: OneWingedShark

“Law abiding armed folk should always comply with police instruction.

What if the cop orders you to undress? what if the cop orders you to rape someone? Always is a pretty strong qualifier.”

Not to be snippy.....

And yet it is the qualifier used. Ideally, law abiding armed folk don’t really have anything to fear from law enforcement (ideally). Just like a cross section of regular folk, LEO come in the “all-kinds” type. Fortunately, the probability of running into the movie version of a bad one is lower than an encounter with a guy doing a job with a ton of protocols and procedures he has to follow (fundamentally, maintain control of the situation). The ‘what if’ scenarios are just that and kind of fanciful

As to the charges, are they severe enough for the fellow to lose his permission to carry? Another reason to comply.

“Permission? You do realize that by making ‘permission’ a prerequisite [to carrying arms] you are denying that it is a right. “

Should have put permission in quotes, it was meant to be a facetious use of the word. The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America does not provide permission, it guarantees an intrinsic right. In some states certain classes of misdemeanor do not remove the ability to secure and maintain a concealed weapon/handgun permit.

Compliance is the way one makes his way through the patchwork quilt of unconstitutional gun laws in America.... until they are all repealed.

Check out HOPE from the tagline.

Cheers,
Stay alert,


27 posted on 08/09/2012 6:28:56 AM PDT by petro45acp ("Don't" read 'HOPE' by L Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman...it will bring tears to eyes. BORE!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: petro45acp
The ‘what if’ scenarios are just that and kind of fanciful

True; however not entirely unheard of. I remember one case where a few cops were pulling over women and, basically, sexually harassing them. {And another guy got a cruiser-style car, the lights, and a uniform and raped women he pulled over. -- not a cop, but certainly taking advantage of the absurd amount of deference they receive.}

Ideally, law abiding armed folk don’t really have anything to fear from law enforcement (ideally).

Yet the Chief Justice of The Supreme Court, Robert Jackson, says otherwise.
...and this officer agrees.

Compliance is the way one makes his way through the patchwork quilt of unconstitutional gun laws in America.... until they are all repealed.

I know; though I really, really am against it. (And have tried with little success to challenge things.)

Check out HOPE from the tagline.

Ok, I'll check it out.

Stay alert,

Stay alive!

28 posted on 08/09/2012 4:16:33 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: puppypusher

I wouldn’t necessarily predict that. The guy is question is president of the New haven Bar Association.


29 posted on 08/09/2012 5:51:06 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Celerity
From one of the most corrupt mayors, nationwide we have the illustrious DeStefano: "Just because something is legal, it doesn't make it right," Mayor John De Stefano Jr.

DeStefano created New Haven as a sanctuary city....had a heck of a time getting rid of the OWS invaders off the New Haven green. Fool.

Open carry in CT is still a muddy issue.

We're sick of the police getting away with *interpreting* the law. Charging Hwang with resisting arrest. PFFT!!!!

30 posted on 08/09/2012 6:06:40 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: napscoordinator

He’s suing alright... he’s an attorney himself and he’s retained of CT’s heavy hitters, Hugh Keefe.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2916715/posts


31 posted on 08/09/2012 6:08:55 PM PDT by Third Person ( A man's got to know his limitations.)
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