Skip to comments.Obama's Columbia Years (Could you spend 2 years at Columbia without classmates remembering you?)
Posted on 08/08/2012 6:57:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
My fellow Columbian Wayne Allyn Root may well be correct when he suggests that President Obama transferred to Columbia in fall '81 as a foreign exchange student, and I support his challenge to the president to prove otherwise. At the same time, I'd like to provide some context that may explain how Barack Obama could spend two years at Columbia without Mr. Root or a random selection of 400 classmates remembering anything about him.
The first thing to note is that Columbia was a male-only school in those days (the first co-ed class was the class of '87). This means that it was a far less social place than most colleges. Mr. Root was no doubt more outgoing than I was, but in my experience, the time period when it was easiest to meet friends at Columbia was during freshman orientation and during the first semester of freshman year living in a dorm. As someone who transferred to Columbia as a junior, Barack Obama would have missed out on those opportunities. This is in addition to the obvious point that there wasn't much reason for anyone to spend a lot of time hanging out on campus with all of Manhattan a mere subway ride away.
Classes at Columbia typically had 40-100 students in those days, with a few classes having as many as 150-200 students. In my experience, the norm was for students to come to class, sit down, listen to the lecture, take notes, and leave. I only recall one instance of a student asking a question in class in all of my time there.
Consequently, I didn't get to know many English majors just because they were English majors. The only exceptions to this pattern were the required core courses in Literature Humanities and Contemporary Civilization,
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“I only recall one instance of a student asking a question in class in all of my time there.”
Good grief...talk about an intellectually lazy bunch of skulls full of mush! No wonder we have such ignorant leaders in America today.
Perhaps an Ivy League diploma doesn’t mean much in the real world, and there should be a twenty year moratorium barring these hot-house flowers from taking government positions.
He’s spent 4 million dollars to cover up his college years, and the media doesn’t find that in the least bit interesting. What the hell is he so desperate to hide that he would fork over 4 million to keep it hidden?
Most of my college friends were on the fencing or riding teams, the Sherlock Holmes Society, or in my dorm. I didn't run for any student government offices, belong to an eating club, or otherwise concern myself with campus issues.
But I can still think of 5-10 people who probably remember me, several of whom I've kept in touch with over the years.
Whoever sold him illegal drugs might remember him.
I am a conservative so they would DEFINATLY remember me!
Sometimes it seemed like the prof could hardly get a word in edgewise!
Sure you could, if you never attended class.
The writer makes some interesting points about the relative anonymity at Columbia, though I find it unlikely that every class which BO supposedly attended at Columbia was a large lecture hall type class.
And, by his own admission, BO was never a wallflower type introvert.
So, yeah, it is a bit of a stretch, but you could dismiss the lack of Columbia classmates who remember him.
It is not so easy when the same pattern is found at Occidental or Harvard.
Given the fact that the jug-eared moron is an unaccomplished, shiftless and lazy, drug-addled loner, my first inclination was yes, however, once I considered the reality that he is also an overbearing, ignorant, self-aggrandizing, affirmative action enabled, arrogant, no talent a$$ clown, it would be hard not to remember the vile creature.
Bingo! Look around DC. The place is run by them and the proof is in the pudding. Those from other schools generally have a much better understanding the real world and the real America.
Iachetta’s points are all valid, and match my personal experience. I transferred schools midway through my sophomore year (not to Columbia,) moved straight into a studio apartment, and worked full time on third shift until graduation. Outside of the others who were in Army ROTC with me (a relatively small group,) you’d be very hard-pressed to find anybody that remembers me.
Yeah, I noticed that as well. Even back in the 1970's before the term Freeper was even known, I recall a verbal exchange between myself and a big lib history professor which got a little out of hand. They weren't all that uncommon back in the era.
After the class was dismissed, I thought I should try to smooth things over given that I didn't want him retaliating in awarding me a grade. Before I could get my half apology (for the rhetoric, not the facts) out, the prof cut me off and said he wishes there could be more exchanges like that in class with students who were well-informed with facts. Most of what he got was recitation of platitudes, not reasoned debate. I left thinking he was way cool to look at things that way even if we would never agree on our politics of historical interpretation. I got an A in the class.
“Could you spend 2 years at Columbia with no one remembering you/”
Of course you could, if Columbia FALSIFIED your records. That’s what liberal schools do for their Marxist pets. All it takes is the right money greasing the right palms.
I’d be interested to know how this lonely loner who kept to himself...turned into a community organizer with oratorical abilities far beyond those of mortal men.
I graduated from a Big Ten University in the early 1970’s. As a freshman, and to a lesser extent during my sophomore years, I was required to take 100+ student lecture courses. Each of these lectures was followed by smaller recitation classes of about 20 students taught by a teaching assistant. The TA’s always quized the students and took attendence.
But, once I started the courses for my major (Finance) the classes were 20 - 30 students with a lot of intereaction with the professors.
The idea of some reticent, aloof, condescending mystery man becoming successful enough in the political game to get elected president goes against logic and history.
But I think there are plenty of people who knew Barry at the time; they're just the kind of people who like to remain in the background, or whose connection would be embarrassing.
However, the issue is being clouded, again, perhaps on purpose. I don't care if any students knew him; I want to see his grades, test scores, and application info. The idea that his college career was anything but a ticket-punching grooming experience defiees the evidence.
So that cannot be the case. The most reasonable explanation is one of two options:
1. He applied for admission and for grant-in-aids / and or scholastic scholarships AS A FOREIGN STUDENT,...and NOT as an American. If he was an American citizen at the time,... then he committed FRAUD. A substantial amount of money would make it a felony. Had the college or university discovered the FRAUD he would have been expelled and possibly arrested or sued in civil court to recover the money.
I assume the statute of limitations on these crimes will have run out by now, but the revelation of his having committed these crimes would be devastating.
The applications, transcripts and financial papers have probably been removed or destroyed by Axelrod by this point. Unless someone has photocopies it probably won't be discoverable. The liberals who run these institutions may have even facilitated the destruction and/or took bribes to do it.
2. He was a foreign student having given up his American citizenship when adopted by Soetoro. He never re-patriated from same and has served illegally as President.
It is crystal clear (at least to me) that he never was a NBC. His 'supposed' father was a Kenyan national, not an American. If Davis was his actual father, then he was an American NBC. But he claims Obama Sr. was his natural father which we of course assume at this point (for good reason) was and remains a lie.
The only sane conclusions to his preventing his college records from being shown to the public are two:
1. He committed fraud and needs to hide the evidence.
2. The records have been completely destroyed and the revealing of this fact would beg the question why they were destroyed.
The only people I remember from college classes are the really hot women.