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Guns, prohibited ammunition, scopes, grenades, bullet proof vests seized from Metchosin home
vancouversun.com ^ | 7 August, 2012 | Katie DeRosa

Posted on 08/08/2012 7:27:27 AM PDT by marktwain

West Shore RCMP seized a dozen guns and prohibited ammunition from a Metchosin home and a man in his 20s could face criminal charges.

The department’s street crime unit and uniformed officers raided the home Thursday and found firearms, some loaded, improperly stored throughout the house; under a bed, in the kitchen, living room and in a safe that was left unlocked, said West Shore RCMP spokesman Sgt. Max Fossum.

While the eight rifles and four hand guns were registered, some were modified with accessories such as scopes, lights and a tripod which might make them restricted or prohibited weapons, Fossum said. There were gun parts all over the house, evidence that the guns had been modified.

Const. Olen Bernardo, one of the investigators, said some of the guns were modified to look “more menacing” and he doubts any of them were used for hunting purposes.

Investigators also seized dozens of illegal magazines and three bullet proof vests. When police first entered the house, they also found grenades, which almost sparked a call to the RCMP explosives unit, but the grenades had been rendered safe.

“We’re asking the question, why so many guns?” he said.

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TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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No charges yet. The police are unsure if a crime has actually been committed.

"The fact that the guns were not locked up and that one of the hand guns was loaded is a major concern, Fossum said, because of the risk they could be stolen if the home was broken into."

This is what the left considers "reasonable" gun control

1 posted on 08/08/2012 7:27:38 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Katie was shaking in her panties when she wrote this article.


2 posted on 08/08/2012 7:31:43 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: marktwain
While the eight rifles and four hand guns were registered, some were modified with accessories such as scopes, lights and a tripod which might make them restricted or prohibited weapons, Fossum said.

"... after all, we can't have just anybody being able to see their target, positively identify it, especially under conditions of darkness or at a distance, and/or be able to hold the gun steady enough to be able to hit that target."

3 posted on 08/08/2012 7:34:28 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: marktwain
“We’re asking the question, why so many guns?” he said.

I know this story is from Canada but here in America, I respond to that question with, "I don't need a reason."

4 posted on 08/08/2012 7:35:56 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (As long a hundred of us remain alive we will never on any condition be brought under Obama's rule.)
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To: marktwain
“We’re asking the question, why so many guns?” he said.

Just wait until you find out how many books the guy had!! I mean, sure, there might be some limited freedom of the press (although, not much in Canada), but, this is going waaaay too far. Nobody needs that many books. That's why there are libraries. Ideas kill, you know.

5 posted on 08/08/2012 7:37:18 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan

Do lasers count as lights?


6 posted on 08/08/2012 7:37:22 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: marktwain
When police first entered the house, they also found grenades, which almost sparked a call to the RCMP explosives unit, but the grenades had been rendered safe.

Translation: They were those dummy, hollow training grenades you can buy at most flea markets and novelty stores.

So basically the police raided this guys house because somebody reported he had live grenades, which turned out to be dummy grenades. So to keep from being embarrassed and looking stupid the police find some minor technical violation about the way he stored his guns and ammo.

7 posted on 08/08/2012 7:38:45 AM PDT by apillar
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To: marktwain

Oh hell.
“Improperly stored” guns...


8 posted on 08/08/2012 7:39:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: marktwain
All of my firearms have been modified. This serves to personalize each one for the job for which I use it for. Some have bi-pods. Some have modified stocks. Some have optics/lights/lasers.

If you put a bumper sticker on a car, you have modified it from stock.

Capt. Hyperbole needs to find that large bottle of chill pills she lost...

9 posted on 08/08/2012 7:39:43 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Paladin2
the article said lights so I guess they meant lights. If he had a laser on any of the weapons, the journalist would have gone spasmodic.
10 posted on 08/08/2012 7:40:22 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: apillar

Apparently, he had some really nice gear since lower in the article is sounds like the Department that seized them is applying to KEEP them.

Legalized theft...


11 posted on 08/08/2012 7:43:18 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: marktwain

You can’t have a scoped rifle in Canada? I though I’ve seen pix of people hunting there with scopes.


12 posted on 08/08/2012 7:46:20 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

Assault scopes, no doubt.


13 posted on 08/08/2012 7:53:24 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: marktwain

Hmm, the guy was apparently home, the safe was unlocked, and guns (scary looking ones) were out of the safe.

Does not look like improper storage to me, if he was home. Now if he was not there and left dangerous scopes and dummy grenades out, then indeed send him to the Canadian version of gitmo./s


14 posted on 08/08/2012 7:54:26 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: marktwain
Certainly a good thing those Mounties were able to find all those assault weapon, people have no reason to have an assault weapon.

Just think how bad it would have been if those assault weapons could have gotten back in to their disguises as regular guns.

15 posted on 08/08/2012 7:55:17 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: marktwain
“...some of the guns were modified to look “more menacing” and he doubts any of them were used for hunting purposes...”

Well even though it is Canada, here is the real evil of what this guy did.

I mean firearms, in a polite society must not look menacing. After all isn't that what the assault weapon legislation was all about.

16 posted on 08/08/2012 7:55:17 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Joe 6-pack

There was some talk about banning scopes in the US after the Texas Book Tower mass murder, but it never happened.


17 posted on 08/08/2012 7:57:54 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Joe 6-pack

I’ll bet the scopes were black!


18 posted on 08/08/2012 8:04:06 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

‘Cause it’s all I could afford.


19 posted on 08/08/2012 8:10:34 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: marktwain

some were modified with accessories such as scopes, lights and a tripod


The horror!


20 posted on 08/08/2012 8:16:05 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: caver
Katie was shaking in her panties when she wrote this article.

Katie was shaking urinating in her panties when she wrote this article. Fixed it.

21 posted on 08/08/2012 8:24:18 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Paladin2

I don’t know; does the law recognize a legal difference between coherent and incoherent light? And if so, at what level of coherence is the legal distinction made? Sounds like Canadian law treats all lights the same, with respect to attachment to firearms: you can’t do it. (Based on this article, anyway.) Because, the last thing The Law would want, is for someone to be able to do is be sure of his target, and what is behind it, at night.


22 posted on 08/08/2012 8:26:30 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"Why so many guns?"

I always respond to questions like this as follows:

"Don't worry, I've tried and I can't shoot more than two at a time with any reasonable accuracy"

23 posted on 08/08/2012 8:27:38 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: coloradan

Wonder what they’d make of my Enfield SMLE No1 MkIII 2a with a nice scope on it? Tack driver, that one. Thanks to Appleseed, using a scope is almost like cheating. Almost.


24 posted on 08/08/2012 8:28:42 AM PDT by Noumenon (Obama 2012: Zimbabwe without the airfare)
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To: apillar

Exactly what I thought when I read this.


25 posted on 08/08/2012 8:33:20 AM PDT by Obadiah (I am Oscar Mike)
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To: coloradan

They may have been upset by a ‘red-dot’ sight, if a scope makes them wee their pants.


26 posted on 08/08/2012 8:35:24 AM PDT by expat2
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To: marktwain
Const. Olen Bernardo, one of the investigators, said some of the guns were modified to look “more menacing” and he doubts any of them were used for hunting purposes.

Because a gun that looks "more menacing" can't kill a deer.
It's a law of nature. Or something.

“We’re asking the question, why so many guns?” he said.

Twelve? My first thought was "why so few?"

27 posted on 08/08/2012 8:40:07 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: marktwain
"The fact that the guns were not locked up and that one of the hand guns was loaded is a major concern, Fossum said, because of the risk they could be stolen if the home was broken into."

Uh, if the house was "broken into" that implies that the weapons were already in a locked enclosure (the house). If being in one locked enclosure isn't enough to reassure the hoplophobes, what evidence is there that being in a locked enclosure inside a locked enclosure would do so? If they go into someone's house and find all the guns inside a closed and locked safe, will they be allowed to claim they were stored unsafely because someone could "break into" the safe? That to be safe they should have been inside A THIRD locked enclosure inside the locked enclosure inside the locked enclosure?

28 posted on 08/08/2012 8:41:31 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marktwain
“We’re asking the question, why so many guns?” he said.

There must have been 20 cops on the scene....why so many cops? Katie writes at least two articles a week...why so MUCH freedom of speech? Wouldn't one article a month be more reasonable?

29 posted on 08/08/2012 8:43:59 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marktwain

Bipods and scopes and lights, oh my! Bipods and scopes and lights, oh my!


30 posted on 08/08/2012 8:48:10 AM PDT by W.Lee (No compromise)
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To: Joe 6-pack

The scopes and lights were fully automatic.


31 posted on 08/08/2012 8:48:20 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Still Thinking
I'm still working on the idea that "mean looking guns can't kill animals." If I figure that one out then I'll try to understand how stolen unloaded guns can't be loaded later by the thief.

I have a feeling the Constable's wife bathes him, dresses him and pins a note to his shirt with directions back home each day.

32 posted on 08/08/2012 8:51:15 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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...some were modified with accessories such as scopes, lights and a tripod which might make them restricted or prohibited weapons, Fossum said.

Good God Almighty!!! Was he in possession of shooting gloves and hearing protection too???????

33 posted on 08/08/2012 9:01:56 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: marktwain

“some were modified with accessories such as scopes, lights and a tripod which might make them restricted or prohibited weapons,....
...some of the guns were modified to look “more menacing”...”

Nice to know that “looks more menacing”, and scopes, lights, and tripods, are legal considerations for weapons in Canada....
Warning! These laws are Coming to a State near you!


34 posted on 08/08/2012 9:23:18 AM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: TigersEye
Good God Almighty!!! Was he in possession of shooting gloves and hearing protection too???????

Yes! He must be a bad, bad man. [facepalm]

35 posted on 08/08/2012 9:26:49 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marktwain
they also found grenades, which almost sparked a call to the RCMP explosives unit, but the grenades had been rendered safe.

In other words, dummy grenades. Wussies.

36 posted on 08/08/2012 9:27:13 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: marktwain
On what pretext did the raid occur? The article says nothing about probabale cause (possibly because it isn't operative in Canukistan).

Maybe the gun owner didn't smile when a policeman went by?

37 posted on 08/08/2012 9:37:53 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
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To: marktwain

officers raided the home

Why?


38 posted on 08/08/2012 9:52:11 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: marktwain

This is all nothing more nor less than Liberal, governmental chickensh*t.


39 posted on 08/08/2012 10:01:02 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: marktwain
Apparently, there are a lot of Canadian LEOs drinking major amounts of STUPID at the local watering hole. More evidence that certain of our Canadian cousins are nuts. This guy would be considered an amateur hobbyist in IL!
40 posted on 08/08/2012 10:01:51 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Still Thinking
"hoplophobes"?

Fear of running out of this?


41 posted on 08/08/2012 10:34:29 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: marktwain

Two American progressives read this article:

AmProg #1: Sigh... if only it could be like that all over this country.

AmProg #2: Patience. Give it time.


42 posted on 08/08/2012 10:40:19 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Noumenon

How do you mount a scope on a No1 MkIII?

http://www.milsurpstuff.com/proddetail.asp?prod=ENF0113

???


43 posted on 08/08/2012 1:56:00 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: apillar

“Translation: They were those dummy, hollow training grenades you can buy at most flea markets and novelty stores.”

They were probably Assault Grenades.


44 posted on 08/08/2012 2:48:22 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: DuncanWaring

Got one years ago courtesy of a tip from our esteemed FRiend Lurker. It’s a Catco, but they don;t seem to be around now. Here’s the only one I could find on short notice today:

http://www.gunaccessories.com/MilitaryScopeMounts/Enfield/index.asp

My Catco mount is rock solid.


45 posted on 08/08/2012 4:16:19 PM PDT by Noumenon (Obama 2012: Zimbabwe without the airfare)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

If it’s rendered safe, it’s not a grenade. It’s a paperweight.


46 posted on 08/08/2012 4:18:40 PM PDT by Noumenon (Obama 2012: Zimbabwe without the airfare)
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To: Noumenon
Or a Complaint Form:


47 posted on 08/08/2012 4:59:04 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Paladin2

Yup! ;)


48 posted on 08/08/2012 6:42:28 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: DBrow; Eric in the Ozarks; marktwain
Two people were in the house at the time and a third man also lives in the home.

“There was a safe there, I don’t know why it wasn’t locked,” Fossum said. “There’s no excuse for that.”

So they are saying that the guns were improperly stored and the safe should have been locked while people were in the home.

So you must have your guns unloaded and locked up while you are home.

How can you clean your guns if you have them locked in a safe at all times? How can you have a gun for the protection of your person and your home if your guns are unloaded and locked in a safe at all time?

These laws are stupid and illogical.

49 posted on 08/09/2012 1:04:49 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Dartman

We need some Canadian outlook on this.

Ping some friends.


50 posted on 08/09/2012 1:12:00 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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