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Advocates: Romney backs gay scouts, Obama is silent (Reaffirms 1994 position)
The Washington Times ^ | August 7, 2012 | By Stephen Dinan

Posted on 08/08/2012 11:58:58 AM PDT by Maelstorm

There is one social issue on which Mitt Romney is more liberal than President Obama — that of urging the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) to accept gay scouts.

Mr. Romney said in 1994 that while it was up to BSA to set its own policy, he thought the scouts should allow gay boys in, and this week his campaign reaffirmed that stance to the Associated Press. The 1994 comments came as he was running to unseat then-Sen. Edward M. Kennedy in Massachusetts.

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Now Scouts for Equality, a group pushing for the national scouting group to allow gay boys to join, said it's time for Mr. Obama — who as president is the honorary president of the scouts — to take the same stand.

"I'm happy to hear that Mitt Romney's campaign confirmed his support for the participation of my family, and families like mine, in the Boy Scouts of America," said Jennifer Tyrrell, a former cub scout den leader who is lesbian, said in a statement. "I think President Obama should also let the public know what he thinks about a cultural institution like the Boy Scouts banning gay Americans."

Ms. Tyrell, who was dismissed as a den leader, is leading a petition drive to try to get BSA to change its policy to allow gay scouts and scout leaders. After a two-year review, BSA leaders announced last month that they would not change longstanding policies against openly gay scouts and adult scout leaders.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gay; lgbt; romney
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I missed this yesterday but taken in context with Romney's "not a part of his campaign" comment in Vegas concerning Chickfila I find this more than troubling and now today Team Romney is using RomneyCare as a defense? Just when it looked like Romney might be coasting to victory he starts reminding us why we didn't like him in the first place. Maybe it is time to think of a real GOP rebellian at the convention. Team Romney had better get its act together and stop with this crap. God help them if they choose a moderate/lib GOP for VP. Romney will find himself in a firestorm of epic proportions and Obama will be laughing his ass off to re-election.
1 posted on 08/08/2012 11:59:09 AM PDT by Maelstorm
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2 posted on 08/08/2012 12:03:59 PM PDT by kevcol
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To: Maelstorm
Two words:

Jerry Sandusky

3 posted on 08/08/2012 12:06:41 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Maelstorm
Is this about gay Boy Scouts or gay Boy Scout leaders?...
The issue is not the same. To allow gay leaders is to let the fox into the hen house. Poison for the innocents.
Let them start their own Giblet organizations, don't pollute established ones.

Romney scares me but, a whole lot less than Hussein Obama.

4 posted on 08/08/2012 12:08:58 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: Maelstorm
It's absurd to think any social conservative would vote for this POS. It's downright sinful for any Christian to vote for him.

The lesser of two evils strategy is brain dead and moves that nation to the left with the votes of conservatives. There is no hope unless that mentality ends.

5 posted on 08/08/2012 12:12:31 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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“he thought the scouts should allow gay boys in, and this week his campaign reaffirmed that stance to the Associated Press”

Way to rally the conservative vote Mitt, that should get em out to the polls.


6 posted on 08/08/2012 12:12:57 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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7 posted on 08/08/2012 12:15:13 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: marstegreg

Ping...here is the proof of what I told you would happen.

Romney’s comments have been used to support the queer agenda to subvert the BSA.

Good job MR!!/s


8 posted on 08/08/2012 12:15:22 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: BatGuano

Exactly. The MSM is confusing the issue again (on purpose).


9 posted on 08/08/2012 12:15:31 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: wagglebee; SandRat

Another Scout/homo twofer ping...


10 posted on 08/08/2012 12:17:02 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Kazan

The only way I will vote for him is if he chooses a solid conservative VP. We should have enough conservatives in the Senate and House to stop him if we need to. I was hoping beyond hope he would turn out to be better than his record suggested but I’m beginning to put that dream aside.


11 posted on 08/08/2012 12:19:53 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Now lets return to our regular scheduled deprogramming.)
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Way to rally the conservative vote Mitt, that should get em out to the polls.

You'd rather he ignore Romney's desire to push homosexuality upon the Boy Scouts just so he can win? Screw that and screw Mitt Romney.

12 posted on 08/08/2012 12:20:12 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Maelstorm
The only way I will vote for him is if he chooses a solid conservative VP.

What difference would it make? The Vice President has no power and any VP associated with Romney will be doomed by his failed Presidency.

13 posted on 08/08/2012 12:22:11 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Maelstorm
Obviously you are an Obama supporter because you have posted an article that does not express how wonderful and hard core conservative Mitt Romney is.

Oh and you hate Mormons too you bigot.

And work for the DNC...

I think that's all of it...

14 posted on 08/08/2012 12:24:08 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: BatGuano
Is this about gay Boy Scouts or gay Boy Scout leaders?... The issue is not the same.

So at what point do you tell the "allowed" homosexual BS he can no longer participate in the organization?

Much like Willard supports homosexual adoption (called it "the American Dream" once) but opposses homosexual marriage. We're not that stupid - one opens the door wide for the other in both cases.
15 posted on 08/08/2012 12:28:49 PM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol

That’s an excellent point. Another one is is homosexuality a one way street? Should we let homosexual boys convert back to normalcy and heterosexuality? Scouting’s not set up for that.


16 posted on 08/08/2012 12:33:52 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Yep-Sandusky!-—the ideal “partner” has always been the boy—for homosexuals-—that age when their natural sexual identity was perverted so they would never mature to the normal attraction of the “other”. It is narcissism and idolatry—this fixation in latency period.

This forcing homosexuals to be mentors of the Boy Scouts is what happened to the Boy Scouts in Germany-—and they had a great time with orgies in the woods. Homosexuals throughout all of history (and in the Greek myths/Samurai/Tibetan whatever-—have always preferred BOYS!!!! Get educated on homosexuality. This recent Marxist (Harry Hay who founded the movement was sodomized as a boy by a sailor-—liked it-—He was a Communist.) Why do you think NAMBLA is allowed to exist? Look at homosexual literature-—glorifies beautiful boys—like Zeus and Ganymede.

Montesquieu stated that the correct sentiment has to be cultivated for certain types of governments to WORK and be SUCCESSFUL: for Tyranny—you cultivate Fear (we have that with PC being forced, so people are afraid to speak the Truth—they will be destroyed by the fascist MSM and arbitrary laws (unconstitutional).
For Monarchy—you promote Honor, so people respect authority.
For a Republic—you have to promote Virtue—public Virtue. By forcing Sodomy in the military—you remove Virtue and promote Vice. It will destroy the military—as Machiavelli stated Virtue is essential for the military—because of their great power over others.

Now with trying to normalize ‘Sodomy is “Good”’ to children with gay “Pride”—you will destroy Virtue and character in children. They will grow up to reject God’s Laws-—the Standards which we create Just Law (Justice) with. The Worldview of Sodomy and Christianity is exclusive. BOTH are not GOOD—it is one or the other. Promoting Sodomy, eliminates Christianity. Promoting Christianity (which is the ethics of our Founders and country for 200 years) will make sodomy illegal.

For centuries, Revelation and Natural Law Theory determined Just Law in Western civilization—It is what made us great. Reason is essential-—there is NO LOGICAL REASON to promote such a teleologically destructive lifestyle as Sodomy—it is evil—A VICE—irrational/destructive—leads to molestation of boys and hedonism and erasing of all sexual morality).

Zero is throwing out God—and his Standards—to destroy this country on purpose. Cultural Marxists in the 50’s (Marcuse) stated that to destroy Western Civilization—just destroy Christianity. It will be destroyed if there is no Virtue and Rule of Law which comes from only Laws that promote Virtue (Justice—which is a Virtue). God and Moral Absolutes is necessary for JUST LAW. Weimar Republic promoted the the most vulgar, base, evil culture to ever have the public stage and we know where that leads. They were worse, if that is possible, than the French morality during Voltaire’s time.

It is the underlying essential First Principle of our Constitution.


17 posted on 08/08/2012 12:35:16 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Maelstorm

I don’t believe there is a rule against gay boys.

There is a rule against homosexual men in leadership.


18 posted on 08/08/2012 12:39:53 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Maelstorm; All

There is absolutely nothing honorable or unintentional about being gay.

Therefore, there is no place for “gays” in The Boy Scouts of America - not Today, not Tomorrow, not EVER!


19 posted on 08/08/2012 12:42:31 PM PDT by Mister Anderson (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Maelstorm

Curious if Romney is ignorant of what “gay” in this sense means? Wondering if he’s ignorant of the intense damage to young boys lives, young men’s lives as the “Gay” takes their pleasures of them.

Men, even young men take their manhood quite seriously.

Many a suicide can be blamed on the “gay”. (Look it up yourself)

Romney is wrong.


20 posted on 08/08/2012 12:56:42 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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