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Have you been ICEd? Gas guzzlers park in electric car-charging spots.
Christian Science Monitor ^ | August 8, 2012 | Antony Ingram

Posted on 08/08/2012 5:55:34 PM PDT by NCjim

One electric-car owner got so angry about internal combustion engine (ICE) cars taking car-charging parking spots, he made a video.

If you drive an electric car, it's nice to know that if you're making a trip to the mall or a regular spot that you can charge up your car while you're running errands.

Well, it's nice until you get there to find that some ignorant soul has parked their gas-guzzler in the space, preventing you from charging.

Unfortunately, it's a trend noticed all too frequently by Santa Monica-based reader Kelly Olsen, who shot the video below to demonstrate just how many spaces are being hogged, in a trend he dubs "ICEing"-- in other words, being displaced by vehicles with Internal Combustion Engines.

The video shows cars at three business locations near to Kelly's home, which all use ECOtality Blink chargers. Not a single car featured in the video is a plug-in, but all are taking up plug-in spaces.

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1 posted on 08/08/2012 5:55:42 PM PDT by NCjim
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To: NCjim

Oh...the inhumanity...(someone post now the smurfs apocalypse).


2 posted on 08/08/2012 5:58:50 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: NCjim

I demand free electricity and a parking spot to take the free electricity for my limited distance “car” that is so much better than yours.

When the power goes out they’re screwed.

They should put these spots in the furthest parts of the parking lots. If they have them at all.


3 posted on 08/08/2012 6:03:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: NCjim

I bet it is a Democrat who is parking in those spots they never follow the rules at least that is my opinion


4 posted on 08/08/2012 6:03:49 PM PDT by funfan
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To: NCjim

My gas guzzler “ICE” has a weak battery. I think I’ll go park in a charge spot, pop the hood for a charge while I shop.


5 posted on 08/08/2012 6:04:59 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: NCjim

The way it is done is to take a heavy orange cord with a plug on the end and place the other end in my car


6 posted on 08/08/2012 6:05:32 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: NCjim

Did the beautiful people care about the abuse of handicapped parking spots? Maybe it’s karma for borrowing grandma’s placard.


7 posted on 08/08/2012 6:07:20 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: funfan

Do those new-fangled electric cars have air up tires?
It would be terrible if they got a flat on their 40 mile run/S


8 posted on 08/08/2012 6:07:33 PM PDT by 9422WMR (Life is not fair, just deal with it.)
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To: NCjim

If I plug in my truck’s block heater, can I park there?

How about free gas to fill my motorcycle’s tank if I park outside your store?


9 posted on 08/08/2012 6:08:13 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: NCjim
I think I will install an auxiliary air conditioner that runs on 240VAC and fit one of those charging plugs to the front of the car to power it.

Then when I can park in one of those spaces, I will, and keep the ride comfortably cool while I shop.

Bloomberg gave me the idea.

10 posted on 08/08/2012 6:09:49 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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11 posted on 08/08/2012 6:11:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
How about free gas to fill my motorcycle’s tank if I park outside your store?

Ya know, they got electric motorcycles, now?

12 posted on 08/08/2012 6:13:39 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: NCjim

I guess I am ignorant.
What exactly is a “reader”?
What does a “reader” do?
Is this some sort of govt. make work job for libs?


13 posted on 08/08/2012 6:14:29 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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14 posted on 08/08/2012 6:16:47 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: NCjim

I guess I am ignorant.
What exactly is a “reader”?
What does a “reader” do?
Is this some sort of govt. make work job for libs?


15 posted on 08/08/2012 6:17:54 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: Clay Moore
Yep, dat’s me!
16 posted on 08/08/2012 6:19:46 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: NCjim

There are quite a few spots on Fort Carson for “fuel efficiency vehicles” only. I park in them every chance I get. And I’ll keep doing it until there designate some spots for “gas guzzlers” only.


17 posted on 08/08/2012 6:21:21 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: NCjim

Well, just to be fair, I want a couple of gallons of free gas for shopping there.
Which spot do I park in for that?


18 posted on 08/08/2012 6:23:29 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: NCjim
If you drive an electric car, it's nice to know that if you're making a trip to the mall or a regular spot that you can charge up your car while you're running errands.

You can do this for free?
19 posted on 08/08/2012 6:23:50 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: NCjim

He needs some cheese to go with his whine.


20 posted on 08/08/2012 6:25:58 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: NCjim
Gotta love the related article:

800 number on Blink plug-in stations? Useless, don't bother "Ecotality's Blink network seems a little worse for wear. Despite a fat government contract, some of the company's electric plug-in charging stations have been found out of order, and their 1-800 number operators are little help."

21 posted on 08/08/2012 6:26:47 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: NCjim
Are these nimrods paying for the elecricity in those spots? I caught a jackass in a Nissan Leaf stealing electricity in front of the Fry's store in San Diego. He was essentially marooned by his moronic purchase. Not enough charge to make it home. Instead, he plugged into an outside 110 VAC socket on the front of the building, then sent his wife and kids to mill around inside for hours while the POS charged. Eventually, it was sufficiently charged. He pulled the charging cable, put it away in the trunk and tracked down his family inside.

Businesses with exposed electric sockets need to keep the power switched off unless they want these parasites running up their electric bills.

22 posted on 08/08/2012 6:28:59 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Navy Patriot
I missed that bit of Bloomberg's continuing idiocy.

Whatever Dem pols can do to shaft taxpayers, they will.

23 posted on 08/08/2012 6:28:59 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Vision
You can do this for free?

I'm sure whoever is flipping the bill for this "free" service is more than happy to see ICE vehicles taking up the parking spaces.

24 posted on 08/08/2012 6:29:17 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: NCjim

The article asked readers to post comments about their experiences being ICEd. Is it just me, or is there not a single comment on that article at all? Talk about a tell...


25 posted on 08/08/2012 6:30:18 PM PDT by rotstan
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To: NCjim
Bumper sticker on my 6.8 liter V-10 Ford Excursion:

"I'm just making up for the lack of carbon footprint of Toyota Prius drivers."

26 posted on 08/08/2012 6:30:55 PM PDT by Raven6 (Psalm 144:1 and Proverbs 22:3 --- Peritus Expello Formidine)
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To: certrtwngnut

I’d guess it’s somebody from an electric utility who reads meters.

Here in the heartland if you refuse to hook up your electric meter to the internet, they come out and read it from the street via rf connection.

Since their product is selling electricity, some of their minions use electric cars.


27 posted on 08/08/2012 6:31:29 PM PDT by nascarnation
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28 posted on 08/08/2012 6:36:23 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: NCjim

29 posted on 08/08/2012 6:36:37 PM PDT by wrencher
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To: Myrddin
Are these nimrods paying for the elecricity in those spots?

After just now reading the article I posted in the post above yours, it appears that, yes, the person parking in a charging space does have to pay for the service --when it actually works. Appears that despite a $115 million contract from the taxpayers, service is very unreliable.

30 posted on 08/08/2012 6:36:53 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: Navy Patriot
Ya know, they got electric motorcycles, now?

I have a former colleague working at Intuit. He captured a picture of two electric motorcycles charging outside the building where he works.

The damn things cost $5,000. They are fast enough to safely travel on the freeway, but have a fairly limited range. Not good enough for the 60 mile round trip I was doing on my Kawasaki Versys and Harley XL1200R.

Zero S goes 114 miles on the new, bigger battery.

31 posted on 08/08/2012 6:37:53 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: NCjim
Mayor Bloomberg in NYC will bo one to park in these spots, but not for charging the car, but for running his portable a/c unit, so his car stays cool until he returns. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2165728/Environmental-Warrior-Mayor-Bloomberg-cools-SUV-wall-unit-AC.html
32 posted on 08/08/2012 6:40:23 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Drew68
The "gas guzzler" didn't steal any electricity. As with any parking place, first come, first serve. If they want the charger spots limited to electric cars only, then put a placard in the cars and a sign requiring a placard on the parking space. Same rules as "handicapped" spots. The chargers should have a debit card swipe device to charge for the "charge".
33 posted on 08/08/2012 6:44:00 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: NCjim

If they’re paying for the electricity, they have a right to park where they can purchase their fuel, just as we have a right to not be deliberately blocked by a parked electric car in front of a gas pump.


34 posted on 08/08/2012 6:47:22 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: rfreedom4u

HA! I am at FCCO and do also!

I fgure that since half the total energy expended in a car’s life cycle is consumed during manufacturing, my 14 year old, 205,000 mile vehicle has amortized that up front cost over the 14 years (so far) of its life and is therefore one of the most efficient vehicles on post.

By the way, I heard that we are going to be a test site for some “Pelosi 2000” electric vehicles. Can’t wait to see Range Control try and drive it up Agony in January with a load....


35 posted on 08/08/2012 6:56:50 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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112th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. R. 1402

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

August 2, 2012

Received


AN ACT

To authorize the Architect of the Capitol to establish battery recharging stations for privately owned vehicles in parking areas under the jurisdiction of the House of Representatives at no net cost to the Federal Government.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. BATTERY RECHARGING STATIONS FOR PRIVATELY OWNED VEHICLES IN PARKING AREAS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AT NO NET COST TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

(a) Definition- In this Act, the term `covered employee’ means—
(1) an employee whose pay is disbursed by the Chief Administrative Officer of the House of Representatives; or
(2) any other individual who is authorized to park in any parking area under the jurisdiction of the House of Representatives on Capitol Grounds.
(b) Authority-
(1) IN GENERAL- Subject to paragraph (3), funds appropriated to the Architect of the Capitol under the heading `Capitol Power Plant’ under the heading `ARCHITECT OF THE CAPITOL’ in any fiscal year are available to construct, operate, and maintain on a reimbursable basis battery recharging stations in parking areas under the jurisdiction of the House of Representatives on Capitol Grounds for use by privately owned vehicles used by Members of the House of Representatives (including the Delegates or Resident Commissioner to the Congress) or covered employees.
(2) VENDORS AUTHORIZED- In carrying out paragraph (1), the Architect of the Capitol may use 1 or more vendors on a commission basis.
(3) APPROVAL OF CONSTRUCTION- The Architect of the Capitol may construct or direct the construction of battery recharging stations described under paragraph (1) after—
(A) submission of written notice detailing the numbers and locations of the battery recharging stations to the Committee on House Administration of the House of Representatives; and
(B) approval by that Committee.
(c) Fees and Charges-
(1) IN GENERAL- Subject to paragraph (2), the Architect of the Capitol shall charge fees or charges for electricity provided to Members and covered employees sufficient to cover the costs to the Architect of the Capitol to carry out this section, including costs to any vendors or other costs associated with maintaining the battery recharging stations.
(2) APPROVAL OF FEES OR CHARGES- The Architect of the Capitol may establish and adjust fees or charges under paragraph (1) after—
(A) submission of written notice detailing the amount of the fee or charge to be established or adjusted to the Committee on House Administration of the House of Representatives; and
(B) approval by that Committee.
(d) Deposit and Availability of Fees, Charges, and Commissions- Any fees, charges, or commissions collected by the Architect of the Capitol under this section shall be—
(1) deposited in the Treasury to the credit of the appropriations account described under subsection (b); and
(2) available for obligation without further appropriation during—
(A) the fiscal year collected; and
(B) the fiscal year following the fiscal year collected.
(e) Reports-
(1) IN GENERAL- Not later than 30 days after the end of each fiscal year, the Architect of the Capitol shall submit a report on the financial administration and cost recovery of activities under this section with respect to that fiscal year to the Committee on House Administration of the House of Representatives.
(2) AVOIDING SUBSIDY-
(A) DETERMINATION- Not later than 3 years after the date of enactment of this Act and every 3 years thereafter, the Architect of the Capitol shall submit a report to the Committee on House Administration of the House of Representatives determining whether Members (including any Delegate or Resident Commissioner to Congress) and covered employees using battery charging stations as authorized by this Act are receiving a subsidy from the taxpayers.
(B) MODIFICATION OF RATES AND FEES- If a determination is made under subparagraph (A) that a subsidy is being received, the Architect of the Capitol shall submit a plan to the Committee on House Administration of the House of Representatives on how to update the program to ensure no subsidy is being received. If the committee does not act on the plan within 60 days, the Architect of the Capitol shall take appropriate steps to increase rates or fees to ensure reimbursement for the cost of the program consistent with an appropriate schedule for amortization, to be charged to those using the charging stations.
(f) Effective Date- This Act shall apply with respect to fiscal year 2011 and each fiscal year thereafter.
Passed the House of Representatives August 2, 2012.

Attest:

KAREN L. HAAS,

Clerk.

END


36 posted on 08/08/2012 7:03:47 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: NCjim

One solution to the problem would be to put the chargers in the farthest reaches of the parking lot. There’s no reason to reserve good parking places for such a small segment of your customers. It would piss me off walking past all the empty premium parking spaces


37 posted on 08/08/2012 7:05:27 PM PDT by Figment
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To: NCjim

Actually I think what these people are doing is pretty funny.

We have two new city buildings who wanted to quality for the “Green Award” so they placed Hybrid Vehicle Parking Only signs at all spaces on the front two rows. Everybody ignored them, but this is Texas. City planners should have known better. After all the press, calls and letters they have received bet they won’t do that again.


38 posted on 08/08/2012 7:18:15 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Yeah, the electric car that tax payers subsidized for him in the first place.

Do they really get free charges? I thought they had a credit card reader at those charging stations. Free electric charging! That's crazy!

39 posted on 08/08/2012 7:18:44 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I noticed several of the companies who have designated “electric-car parking” stalls have put them right up front next to the handicapped stalls.

And yes - I park in them all the time ;-)


40 posted on 08/08/2012 7:37:51 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Grams A
Everybody ignored them, but this is Texas.

LOL. Some buildings at my previous company had a 2 level parking lot, lower (covered) area for compact vehicles, others on top, exposed to the elements. Our attitude was if you want a shady place to park in the summer get there earlier. No one paid attention to it.

41 posted on 08/08/2012 7:45:19 PM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: rockrr

Electric car owners are handicapped, even if they can’t admit it.


42 posted on 08/08/2012 7:56:24 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Vision
You can do this for free?

No, everyone pays for it.

43 posted on 08/08/2012 8:01:15 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obamaid has to go.)
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To: Grams A

Remember the opening in “Cool Hand Luke”where the Paul Newman character used a pipe cutter to de-head the parking meters? That’s what I’d like to do to these electric car charger spots. Prisons have cable TV, nutritious meals, no work requirement and free lawyers to help you, so going to the pen for this may not have the outcome Newman had.


44 posted on 08/08/2012 8:23:59 PM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: NCjim

So, who’s paying for the electricity? The shop owner? No, it’s the rest of us.


45 posted on 08/08/2012 8:25:26 PM PDT by bgill
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To: NCjim

$400 fines to follow if ya park in one of those spots, without the proper state regulated placard.


46 posted on 08/08/2012 8:29:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: RicocheT

Do remember the scene. We have that movie in our stash of old films somewhere. Going to find it so we can watch it this weekend. Thanks for making the connection. Whomever wrote that movie script had to be capable of looking into the future. Or maybe it’s true, there really is nothing new. Been there, done that issue.


47 posted on 08/08/2012 8:45:07 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Vision

welll..

The outlets where installed with tax incentives..

The electricity is paid for by the stores in the mall who in turn charge that cost to their customers...

So charge for “free” you need to be a freeloading liberal moocher who just plugs in and window shops and pays no taxes.


48 posted on 08/08/2012 9:05:24 PM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Thank you.....thank you very much!


49 posted on 08/08/2012 9:05:47 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: NCjim

A local hospital has parking spots reserved for the handicapped, for low emissions vehicles, for carpoolers, and for doctors.

I’ve complained to them that it’s discriminatory, but they don’t see how. So, I park my 95 Blazer in the the low-emissions section every chance I get.


50 posted on 08/08/2012 9:08:28 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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