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Romney spokesman on steelworker ad: In Massachusetts, he would have been covered under RomneyCare
Hotair ^ | 08/08/2012 | AllahPundit

Posted on 08/08/2012 8:42:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Via Mediaite, the key bit comes at 1:25. Are we sufficiently close to the election yet that we’re obliged to give Team Mitt a pass on this purely in the interest of defeating Obama, or is there still time left to wrist-slap him for touting a deeply problematic statist health-care expansion? (It's not just his spokesman who alluded to RomneyCare this morning but, according to Reuters, Romney himself.) If the answer is the former then I'm not optimistic about holding his feet to the fire from the right once he's elected. The Democrats have formidable challengers lined up for 2016 in Hillary and Andrew Cuomo, if they're willing. You don't really want to weaken President Mitt by criticizing him for moving to the center when he's facing a brutal struggle for reelection, do you?

It's not a big deal in the full context of the campaign but, like Erick Erickson says, any hint of backsliding by Romney is noteworthy:

[T]he Romney campaign decided to sabotage itself with a mind numbingly bit of spin that may mark the day the Romney campaign died…

Conservatives have put aside their distrust of Romney on this issue in the name of beating Barack Obama. They thought he and his campaign team had gotten the message and the hints. Consider the scab picked, the wound opened, and the distrust trickling out again.

About the only thing more stupid in terms of building bridges with the right would be to say something nice about fetal stem cell research.

Start your watches for that one!

If I were an Obama advisor, I’d be looking at Saul’s comment as an escape hatch from the rolling clusterfark that is the steelworker ad. It’s a twofer. On the one hand, it lets them grind Romney’s face in the one policy “accomplishment” more than any other that irritates his base, and on the other, it gives them an excuse to tout ObamaCare as a solution to situations like Soptic’s. I’d be surprised if O’s Super PAC isn’t working up a new ad about it already, assuming they’re not backlogged with spots accusing Romney of causing cancer or whatever.

Exit quotation from stalwart RomneyCare skeptic Philip Klein, trying to imagine future Romney talking points in this vein: “Well, in Massachusetts, the rich pay a lot of taxes.”

Update: More from Klein:

It’s hard to say what type of political ramifications this specific development will have, but I do think it’s an example of a broader problem. Romney consistently attempts to make up with tactics what he lacks in vision. Romney’s campaign isn’t driven by any core ideology or governing philosophy, but by responding to news cycles. It is a campaign that was perhaps best summed up by senior advisor Eric Fehrnstrom, when he proudly tweeted yesterday, “On Fox just now Romney was asked to respond to ‘RomneyHood’ charge and called it ‘Obamaloney.’” Conservatives, rest assured – Romney will not allow himself to be called a childish nickname without responding by calling Obama a childish nickname.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: healthcare; romney; romney4obamacare; romneycare; romneycare4all; socializedmedicine; steelworkerad

1 posted on 08/08/2012 8:42:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If you buy an American company you owe the employees and their families health insurance for life.


2 posted on 08/08/2012 8:45:37 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: SeekAndFind

Somebody please take the gun away from this collection of fools! Another week and they will not have anything left of either foot.


3 posted on 08/08/2012 8:46:46 PM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: mazda77

Romney is finding how difficult it is to imitate the yellow line in the middle of the road. You keep getting run over and ignored.
With Romney care you have people forced into buying a health care plan with all the bells and whistles when they earn peanuts. It is a huge tax increase to support all the rest who won’t work or illegals that plague the system. The low income worker gets hit the hardest. Many of them decide it is better just to quit their poor jobs and take cash employment and get near free health care. The MA plan doesn’t work either.


4 posted on 08/08/2012 8:53:25 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: SeekAndFind
Conservatives have put aside their distrust of Romney on this issue in the name of beating Barack Obama.

Conservatives didn't.

5 posted on 08/08/2012 8:54:26 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Free people, when presented only with evil choices, create other choices.(EternalVigilance))
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney is trying to lose.

Nobody that has made hundreds of millions of dollars can possibly that stupid.

I suspect he has bet his entire fortune on Obama being re-elected and with the Vegas odds it could turn him into a Billionaire.


6 posted on 08/08/2012 9:01:01 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Old saying: "Live by the CINO... die by the CINO." ;)
7 posted on 08/08/2012 9:01:12 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh No...!


8 posted on 08/08/2012 9:03:50 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: Graybeard58

“Conservatives have put aside their distrust of Romney...”

Not this Conservative~


9 posted on 08/08/2012 9:08:39 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Either Romney IS a globalist, or the globalists have infiltrated Romney’s camp to sabotage it and ensure 0bama’s re-election. McCain II.


10 posted on 08/08/2012 9:17:03 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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Highest IQ ever

HIGHEST IQ EVER:

On Imus in the Morning, the Presidential Historian Michael Beschloss said, “Barack Obama has the highest IQ of any President.”

SOURCE: http://www.theamericanright.com/forums/showthread.php?9985-Highest-IQ-ever

If Obama had gotten acceptance by MENSA - You know he would have bragged about it - except for one little thing -

Barack Hussein Obama (Junior) would have to provide irrefutable documention and numbers to prove it - and MENSA turned down both Bill and Hillary Clinton when they attempted to intimidate MENSA into giving them membership.

(MENSA used to operate out of Brooklyn NY - They are now located in Texas)

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If the Romney haters on this and on other FR threads were/are so brilliant and competent - Why have they not run for office and given the gift of their wonderfulness to America?

Remember - Free Republic once ran a confidential/anonymous sidebar poll asking who their choice for US President is/was

Over 15% picked Hillary Rodham Clinton

Some of that “Hillary 15%” are on FR threads like this every day -

- Some are reading my comment right now.....

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11 posted on 08/08/2012 9:39:38 PM PDT by devolve (-------------------- ------- "...maybe a little blow..." - Barack Hussein Obama Junior -------------)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Democrat operatives have infiltrated Romney campaign. How else can you explain the dumbest possible response from Saul?


12 posted on 08/08/2012 9:39:38 PM PDT by entropy12 (Hate is the most insidious emotion, it will encourage cancer cells in your body.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Romney is trying to lose.

It's not so much he is trying to lose, he is a very weak fighter and has no idea how to. It's like he is living in a dream world and dealing with ethical people. And his selection of the asses around him seem to be the height of stupidity.

13 posted on 08/08/2012 9:41:44 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: SeekAndFind

14 posted on 08/08/2012 9:51:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana

... and so it begins. ;)


15 posted on 08/08/2012 9:54:33 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: entropy12

16 posted on 08/08/2012 9:58:09 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

;)


17 posted on 08/08/2012 9:59:29 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: entropy12

Did anyone else see the violent reaction by Ann Coulter tonight on Hannity? She was LIVID about Saul (that young twit campaign spokeswoman for Romney) and said she will NOT work hard for Romney in any way shape or form if he continues to surround himself with TOTAL MORONS like Saul. I nearly stood up and clapped and shouted in agreement.

I cannot BELIEVE the weak-kneed reaction to any of this. Where are Romney’s brass ones? Ann Coulter says Saul was on the McCain team in 08. nuff said on her. She’s worthless and Ann shouted out that she needs to be fired TODAY or tomorrow AM and the latest. I agree.


18 posted on 08/08/2012 10:07:54 PM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (Can we still nominate someone else at the GOP convention? HHMM? Can we?)
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To: mazda77

Ann Coulter went off on the woman on Hannity tonight, she wants her head on a plate!


19 posted on 08/08/2012 10:13:11 PM PDT by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

Ann, like the liberal wing of FR, needs to just close her mouth, sit silently and accept the consequences of supporting the man who gave every indication and in fact has made the statement that he will govern ‘Progressively’.

They support this. They are campaigning for this. Ergo they want this.

So they got this.

And they should be reminded of it now and for the rest of their natural lives. Because they deserve every liberal proclimation, law, regulation et all. When America’s chips were down, they trashed actual conservative candidates who were against this insanity. To this day, on this very thread, they trash anyone speaking against Romney’s liberalism because they are scared of Obama.

This ABOs is yet another crystal clear example of your fright-filled folly. And be PROUD. Because it’s only going to get worse once he officially gets the nomination and the MSM unloads with both barrels.


20 posted on 08/08/2012 10:19:11 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: SeekAndFind

Last month, here in Germany, my doctor sent me for an operation on my back. That doctor claimed it to be “beauty surgery” and said I had to pay for it. She said because it is “beauty surgery” I had to wait 24 hours to think about it. Then she offered that she “could do it anyway” but wasn’t really in the mood because she already did a couple of surgeries so I ended up having to go back in a couple weeks from now and pay for it.

I told my wife that I went to the doctor and got sent for “beauty surgery”. How pathetic is that!??

Next year I am going to get a really cool full back tattoo to smooth over this indignity. That’s “beauty surgery”!

Last winter I had an emergency. My doctor sent me to be measured for a stomach bandage. They said the law was changed last year and I had to pay half.

My wife is as close to legally blind as a person can get but has to pay most of the cost for glasses.

When the government has control they can rewrite the rules and you will pay. You will pay.

Socialized healthcare is starting to bankrupt me.

My 90 year old mother-in-law is fighting to keep her home visits going. That is another story. Who needs to fight for a thing like that at age 90?

When they have power to terrorize you in old age - they will!


21 posted on 08/08/2012 10:47:04 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Siri: Gold Baby, Gold!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Ann, like the liberal wing of FR, needs to just close her mouth, sit silently and accept the consequences of supporting the man who gave every indication and in fact has made the statement that he will govern ‘Progressively’.

They support this. They are campaigning for this. Ergo they want this.

So they got this.

And they should be reminded of it now and for the rest of their natural lives. Because they deserve every liberal proclimation, law, regulation et all. When America’s chips were down, they trashed actual conservative candidates who were against this insanity. To this day, on this very thread, they trash anyone speaking against Romney’s liberalism because they are scared of Obama.

This ABOs is yet another crystal clear example of your fright-filled folly. And be PROUD. Because it’s only going to get worse once he officially gets the nomination and the MSM unloads with both barrels.

^ THIS ^ 1,000,000,000x this.


22 posted on 08/08/2012 10:47:13 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: devolve
If the Romney haters on this and on other FR threads were/are so brilliant and competent - Why have they not run for office and given the gift of their wonderfulness to America?

You Mitt Supporters keep saying this falsehood over and over again as if by the more you say it, the more it becomes true.

Sadly, you are completely mistaken.

We don't hate Mitt, however, we do hate his progressive liberalism.

His record is chock-full of PRogressive Liberal actions like the following. This is what we hate:



All we care about is the truth where Romney is concerned, All you Mitt supporters care about is burying the truth where Mitt is concerned.
23 posted on 08/08/2012 11:10:06 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Every since Jim called the truce.....the Romney “sunshine pumpers” have been out in force on FR making it like its Peace & Safety with everything being in the hands of Romney, when it’s not


24 posted on 08/08/2012 11:16:11 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

I think it’s abundantly clear to everyone that the truce with the ABO brigade had the same outcome as all the go along get along crap the GOP uses with the Dems. The ABOers have proceeded to slap JR and FR in the face daily, along with those of us allergic to kool aid. It is a mistake for the GOP and IMO, was a mistake here. But that is my opinion. Not my site to control.

All we can do now is point and laugh at the folly of the ABOers defending the liberal activities of their liberal candidate, while calling his and their actions ‘conservative’ and claiming it’s going to save the country.

The ABOers pretty much have to ride their horse to the finishline. If they admit their mistake now, they would have to likewise admit that us ‘Obama supporters’ were right to begin with. And not one of them has thusfar displayed the integrity to do that. So expect more ranting and raving on how evil/bad/stupid/crazy we are and how we who have both campaigned and supported the conservative position will be the downfall of America.

As a side note, I wish I could see the books when history is written about this situation. It will not speak well for the the wholly illogical ‘Anyone but’ philosophy.

Because if ‘anybody’ was acceptable, we should run Hillary! for a 100% guaranteed win. After all, she’s not Obama. And if the ABOs don’t agree with that they cannot by definition be ‘ABO’. So they are in truth Pro Liberal Romney.


25 posted on 08/08/2012 11:31:14 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
My biggest complaint with the stunning intellectual dishonesty of the ABO brigade is their persistent mewling and barking that: "Well, it's okay if Mitt's really a hardcore liberal on virtually every last social issues known to man, because Congress will absolutely, positively hold his darned feet to the fire, by God and by damn!"

This, of course, is nothing more than reconstituted horse crap, and everyone with an I.Q. higher than their resting pulse rate knows it. As Erick Erickson pointed out, earlier today:

"[...]we’ve seen this play out before. Once George Bush was elected, we had to keep the fragile coalition together. Then it was the war. Then it was re-election. We got to TARP and the GM bailout and people were still yelling that we could not criticize the Bush Administration lest we help Barack Obama.

"These supporters are enablers of the $16 trillion debt we presently have. If we cannot vocally and forcefully hold Mitt Romney accountable now, there will be a new excuse after the election for why we cannot hold him accountable, just as there always has been up to $16 trillion."

Republicans in Congress never, ever, EVER hold the feet of their party's President "to the fire" on ANY issue of importance to movement conservatives. We have eight years of GWB, amply serving an inarguable demonstration of that.

They lie.

Unhesitatingly, and directly to your face: they lie.

26 posted on 08/09/2012 12:21:16 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, gee, WHAT A SHOCK. ROMNEY DEFENDS SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.

I hope all you people who are saying that we must vote for Romney to defeat Obama at any cost are reading this! Your guy, Romney, is exactly the same as Obama.


27 posted on 08/09/2012 12:33:14 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: SeekAndFind
The Government Party pushing hard to condition Americans to Extortion-Care, with any contrived "controversy" they can. As I mentioned on another thread, right out of the movie theme “Oscar”, in attempt to garner sympathy in attempt the conditioning to normalize Extortion-Care.
28 posted on 08/09/2012 12:33:33 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

For me, the bottom line with the ABOers is simple. In real life, if a person we knew called themselves a devout christian and spent every weekend coked up at the strip joint, we would likely distance ourselves from that person.

If we knew someone who led the local scout troop, volunteered at the old folks home and cooked at soup kitchens for the homeless... then spent their time online at Stormfront railing on Blacks and Jews, we would likely distance ourselves from that person, if not end ties permanently.

Why? Because they put on (Bill) airs of being one thing, when their actions prove to be something else entirely.

When an ABOer comes on here/other sites claiming how mouch they love/fear for America and then go and actively campaign for a man who represents by his very record, the polar opposite of everything that person claims to believe, they are either lying about what they believe or they are intentionally showing by their actions that their beliefs meant nothing to them.

There is no other option. They can bitch and scream till the cows come home, but it’’s reality. And it is also reality that such people are the reason the left has and maintains power. Because rather than standing for what is right, they capitulate everything.

So IMO, there is no ‘America’ for them to fight for. By their actions, they gave up on America with thir support for a man whose actions stand against what ‘America’ itself stands for.

Such people disgust me with false patriotism. Because I defy one of them to attempt to define abortion/homosexual marriage/homo-military/mandates/gun control et all as ‘patriotic’.

They may as well be coked up in the strip joint on Saturday night and preaching mass Sunday morning. Same BS, different BSer.


29 posted on 08/09/2012 12:44:45 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

OR even simpler, they’re part of the shakedown government RICO action itself.


30 posted on 08/09/2012 1:01:52 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Varsity Flight

Pretty much. I’d like one of them to explain how the DU/OWS types carrying the water for the Dems when they KNOW the Dems will screw them, are being ‘Useful idiots’; but the ABOers carrying GOP water KNOWING the GOP will cast them aside as soon as they get their lib elected...as they have a 100% record of doing, is somehow ‘not’ being a ‘Useful Idiot’.

If the ABOs set aside their fear of Obama for a couple solid hours and REALLY thought about this, I think a few would see the error in their ‘logic’.

The rest are demonstrably too stupid for anyone to help. All one need do is look at the verbage in their attacks on conservatives to see that in crystal clarity.


31 posted on 08/09/2012 1:10:50 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: devolve

Smart move on their part.

Ok, ok that joke's been told before. I just couldn't resist. Besides, it's not one of the "numbered" jokes...

32 posted on 08/09/2012 1:28:31 AM PDT by BlueDragon (five word sentences are best.)
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To: Logical me

His political ‘brain trust’ comes from Massachusetts politics: they have no understanding of American political sentiment nationwide and particularly misunderstand independent voters in swing states. Yet, they are confident that because they are from MA they understand moderate and independent voters better than anyone else.

Applying a Massachusetts political mentality nationwide is a certain losing approach.

(And as to Saul, what are they doing with a 30yo twit as their spokesperson for a presidential candidate anyway?)


33 posted on 08/09/2012 2:32:24 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind; Little Bill; ElectricStrawberry

I am from Connecticut
I have friends in Mass
I know someone who couldn’t afford to pay for his mandatory state insurance
they threatened him with arrest
THAT is Romneycare


34 posted on 08/09/2012 2:54:56 AM PDT by RaceBannon (I wont vote for a gay marriage marxist gun grabber, or vote for Obama, either)
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To: Norm Lenhart

OUTSTANDING RANT!!!!!


35 posted on 08/09/2012 3:01:33 AM PDT by RaceBannon (I wont vote for a gay marriage marxist gun grabber, or vote for Obama, either)
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To: RaceBannon
There are people afflicted with cancer and neurologic diseases
that cannot even see primary care physicians quickly
now in Massachusetts.

All because of Mr. RomneyCARE (who then fled the state).



36 posted on 08/09/2012 3:37:22 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Norm Lenhart
In real life, if a person we knew called themselves a devout christian and spent every weekend coked up at the strip joint

Stop stalking me.

37 posted on 08/09/2012 3:41:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I love the Universe, and it loves me.)
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To: Lazamataz

Hey, Laz! Thanks for the morning smile... :-)


38 posted on 08/09/2012 4:15:01 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor
Did anyone else see the violent reaction by Ann Coulter tonight on Hannity? She was LIVID about Saul (that young twit campaign spokeswoman for Romney) and said she will NOT work hard for Romney in any way shape or form if he continues to surround himself with TOTAL MORONS like Saul

Ann Coulter was totally and irationally in the tank for Romney during the primaries and just NOW she is surprised that junk like this emerges? Sorry, Annie - you wanted this, now we all have to deal with it.

39 posted on 08/09/2012 4:18:13 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Whaddaya mean I didn't build this tagline????)
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To: 9YearLurker
His political ‘brain trust’ comes from Massachusetts politics: they have no understanding of American political sentiment nationwide and particularly misunderstand independent voters in swing states. Yet, they are confident that because they are from MA they understand moderate and independent voters better than anyone else.

Applying a Massachusetts political mentality nationwide is a certain losing approach.

"Moderate" Republicans are nothing more, ultimately, than smarmily disingenuous liberals who enjoy the occasional tax cut. ;)

40 posted on 08/09/2012 4:27:46 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: COBOL2Java

:)


41 posted on 08/09/2012 4:27:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I love the Universe, and it loves me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

does anybody need any more evidence that this guy is NOT going to dismantle obamacare? we’re backign the wrong horse, adn there is little difference between romney and obama.


42 posted on 08/09/2012 4:29:50 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Diogenesis

Nearly 50 posts so far, and a dearth of posts from the Romney apologists! My my...


43 posted on 08/09/2012 5:08:12 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: COBOL2Java
RomneyCARE took control of MDs and more in Mass this week.

The MSM are crickets.


"RomneyCare 2.0 With costs rising fast, Massachusetts moves to dictate medical care
Under the plan, all Massachusetts doctors, hospitals and other providers must register
with a new state bureaucracy as a condition of licensure—that is, permission to practice.
They'll be required to track and report their financial performance, price and cost trends,
state-sanctioned quality measures, market share and other metrics."



Emergency room visits grow in Mass. New insurance law did not reduce number of users
The number of people visiting hospital emergency rooms has climbed in Massachusetts,
despite the enactment of nearly universal health insurance that some hoped would reduce expensive emergency department use."


Back to the ObamaCare Future (price controls in Massachusetts)
Natural experiments are rare in politics, but few are as instructive as the prototype for
ObamaCare that Massachusetts set in motion in 2006.
Last month, Democratic Governor Deval Patrick landed a neutron bomb, proposing hard
price controls across almost all Massachusetts health care. State regulators already have
the power to cap insurance premiums, which Mr. Patrick is activating. He also filed a bill
that would give state regulators the power to review the rates of hospitals, physician
groups and some specialty providers.

It doesn't even count as an irony that former Governor Mitt Romney (like President Obama) sold this plan as a way to control spending"


"The Huge Middle Class Tax Increase Coming Our Way With ObamaCare
The former CBO director, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, warns today on the effect ObamaCare
will have on our economy and health care. These facts should be painfully obvious to
those with even one iota of common sense. This bill will lead to a huge middle class tax increase:
Remember when health-care reform was supposed to make life better for the middle
class? That dream began to unravel this past summer when Congress proposed a bill that
failed to include any competition-based reforms that would actually bend the curve of
health-care costs. It fell apart completely when Democrats began papering over the
gaping holes their plan would rip in the federal budget.

As it now stands, the plan proposed by Democrats and the Obama administration would
not only fail to reduce the cost burden on middle-class families, it would make that burden significantly worse.

The bill creates a new health entitlement program that the Congressional Budget Office
(CBO) estimates will grow over the longer term at a rate of 8% annually, which is much
faster than the growth rate of the economy or tax revenues. This is the same growth rate
as the House bill that Sen. Kent Conrad (D., N.D.) deep-sixed by asking the CBO to tell
the truth about its impact on health-care costs.

To avoid the fate of the House bill and achieve a veneer of fiscal sensibility, the Senate
did three things: It omitted inconvenient truths, it promised that future Congresses will
make tough choices to slow entitlement spending, and it dropped the hammer on the middle class.

One inconvenient truth is the fact that Congress will not allow doctors to suffer a 24% cut in their Medicare reimbursements. "


"DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS
In August Sarah Palin wrote extensively about the incredible danger that ObamaCare
would lead to what amounts to "death panels." This of course caused great controversy
with many claiming Palin was either "crazy" or talking about the "end of life"
discussions that were provided for within House Resolution 3200, the prototype
ObamaCare bill.
As more Americans delve into the disturbing details of the nationalized health care plan
that the current administration is rushing through Congress, our collective jaw is
dropping, and we're saying not just no, but hell no!

The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of
health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care
will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the
most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The
America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down
Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's "death panel" so his bureaucrats can
decide, based on a subjective judgment of their "level of productivity in society," whether
they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil. .
Now we have news from Massachusetts, the home of RomneyCare, which should be
looked at as a shining example of why ObamaCare will be an epic failure. Soaring costs
both to the taxpayers and patients was inevitable, and now the effects of these are coming home to roost.
You can't reap these savings without limiting patients' choices in some way,"


"You can't reap these savings without limiting patients' choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess.

The state's ambitious plan to shake up how providers are paid could have a hidden price
for patients: Controlling Massachusetts' soaring medical costs, many health care leaders
believe, may require residents to give up their nearly unlimited freedom to go to any
hospital and specialist they want.

Efforts to keep patients in a defined provider network, or direct them to lower-cost
hospitals could be unpopular, especially in a state where more than 40 percent of hospital
care is provided in expensive academic medical centers and where many insurance
policies allow patients access to large numbers of providers. ."


"State plan may place limits on patients' hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )"


"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
My husband retired from IBM about a decade ago, and as we aren't old enough for
Medicare we still buy our health insurance through the company. But IBM, with its
typical courtesy, informed us recently that we will be fined by the state.
Why? Because Massachusetts requires every resident to have health insurance, and this
year, without informing us directly, the state had changed the rules in a way that made
our bare-bones policy no longer acceptable. Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor want-or enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance plan-we
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
My husband's response was muted; I was shaking mad. We hadn't imposed our health-
care costs on anyone else, yet we were being fined ("taxed" was the word the letter used).

We've spent much of our lives putting away what money we could for retirement. We
always intended to be self-sufficient. We've paid off the mortgage on our home, don't
carry credit-card debt, and have savings in case of an emergency. We also have a regular
monthly income of about $3,000, which includes an IBM pension. My husband, 61, earns
a little money on the side, sometimes working as an electronics consultant on renewable
energy projects. I'm 58 and make some money writing science books. We are not
wealthy, but we aren't a risk of becoming a burden on society either. How did we become outlaws? "


"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
"Three years ago, the former Massachusetts Governor had the inadvertent good sense to create the "universal" health-care program that the White House and Congress now want to inflict on the entire country.
It is proving to be instructive, as Mr. Romney's foresight previews what President Obama, Max Baucus, Ted Kennedy and Pete Stark are cooking up for everyone else.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis, Governor Deval Patrick and his Democratic colleagues are starting to move down the path that government health plans always follow when spending collides with reality -- i.e., price controls.
As costs continue to rise, the inevitable results are coverage restrictions and waiting periods. It was only a matter of time.

They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006.

What really whipped along RomneyCare were claims that health care would be less expensive if everyone were covered.
But reducing costs while increasing access are irreconcilable issues.
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State's 'Grand Experiment' Fails [RomneyCare]
"The Daily News Record, Harrisonburg, Va. - 2009-03-31 "
"For folks increasingly leery of President Obama's plan to radically overhaul America's health-care system,
or 17 percent of the nation's economy, all this could hardly have come at a better time -
that is, fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romney's brainchild, Massachusetts' "grand experiment" in "universal" health care."

"Initiated on Mr. Romney's gubernatorial watch in 2006, this "experiment" has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
"RomneyCare" is threatening to bankrupt the state. Budgeted for Fiscal Year 2010 at $880 million,
or 7.3 percent more than a year ago, this plan, aimed at providing low- or no-cost health coverage to roughly 165,000 residents,
has caused Massachusetts' overall expenditures on all health-related programs to jump an astounding 42 percent since 2006.

So what does Mr. Romney's successor, Democratic Gov. Deval Patrick, propose as a remedy for these skyrocketing costs?
Well, whaddya think? The standard litany of prescriptions (no pun intended) - price controls and spending caps, for a start, and then, again predictably, waiting periods and limitations on coverage.
As in Europe and Canada, so too in Massachusetts. And, we feel certain, everyone from Mr. Romney to Mr. Patrick said, "It would never happen here."
But then, such things are inevitable when best-laid plans, with all their monstrous costs, run smack-dab into fiscal reality.


Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care.

Sedalia, Colo. - In his recent speech to Congress, President Obama could have promoted
healthcare reforms that tapped the power of a truly free market to lower costs and
improve access. Instead, he chose to offer a national version of the failing
"Massachusetts plan" based on mandatory health insurance. This is a recipe for disaster.

Three years ago, Massachusetts adopted a plan requiring all residents to purchase health
insurance, with state subsidies for lower-income residents. But rather than creating a
utopia of high-quality affordable healthcare, the result has been the exact opposite -
skyrocketing costs, worsened access, and lower quality care.

Under any system of mandatory insurance, the government must necessarily define what
constitutes acceptable insurance. In Massachusetts, this has created a giant magnet for
special interest groups seeking to have their own pet benefits included in the required
package. Massachusetts residents are thus forced to purchase benefits they may neither
need nor want, such as in vitro fertilization, chiropractor services, and autism treatment -
raising insurance costs for everyone to reward a few with sufficient political "pull."

Although similar problems exist in other states, Massachusetts' system of mandatory
insurance delivers the entire state population to the special interests. ."


"'Severe' doc shortage seen hiking wait time The Boston Herald ^ | 9/15/09 | Christine McConville As the state's shortage of primary care doctors grows, people are waiting longer for medical care, according to a new survey by the Massachusetts Medical Society. "The shortage is getting more severe," said Dr. Mario Motta, the medical society's president. The state's health care dilemma can serve as a valuable lesson for a nation whose residents are locked in a frenzied debate about health care reform, he added."


"Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The state's major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year,
prompting many employers to reduce benefits and shift additional costs to workers.
The higher insurance costs undermine a key tenet of the state's landmark health care law
passed two years ago, as well as President Obama's effort to overhaul health care. In
addition to mandating insurance for most residents, the Massachusetts bill sought to rein
in health care costs. With Washington looking to the Massachusetts experience, fears
about higher costs have become a stumbling block to passing a national health care bill."


"Nation's ill-advised to follow Mass. plan [Health plan a failure]
September 17, 2009 The canary is dead.
Massachusetts, the model for the ObamaCare universal insurance plan, is the canary in
the health care coal mine. Yesterday, its obit appeared on the front page of both The Wall
Street Journal and The Boston Globe-Democrat.

Both papers reported that our Commonwealth Care reform isn't working as planned. A
new law that was supposed to control costs and drive prices down (sound familiar?) has
instead sent costs soaring. "



"Bay State Insurance Premiums Highest in Country - Boston Globe August 22, 2009
Massachusetts has the most expensive family health insurance premiums in the country,
according to a new analysis that highlights the state's challenge in trying to rein in medical costs
after passage of a landmark 2006 law that mandated coverage for nearly everyone...
The report by the Commonwealth Fund, a nonprofit health care foundation,
showed that the average family premium for plans offered by employers in Massachusetts was $13,788 in 2008,
40 percent higher than in 2003. Over the same period, premiums nationwide rose an average of 33 percent..."


"Massachusetts: the laboratory for ObamaCare
Cato Institute looks a little farther down the coast to Massachusetts, where the state began its own health-care reform complete
with individual mandates and a government plan.
Cato calls it an "almost perfect" mirror of ObamaCare, complete with promises of reducing cost and extending care - that failed in both respects:
Massachusetts shows that such a mandate would oust millions from their low-cost health plans and force them to pay higher premiums. …


"Massachusetts' Obama-like reforms increase health costs, wait times [RomneyCare]
"If you are curious about how President Barack Obama's health plan would affect your health care, look no farther than Massachusetts.
In 2006, the Bay State enacted a slate of reforms that almost perfectly mirror the plan of Obama and congressional Democrats.
.... Premiums are growing 21 to 46 percent faster than the national average
in part because Massachusetts' individual mandate has effectively outlawed affordable health plans.
"


"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)
A 10-member Massachusetts state healthcare advisory board unanimously recommended
that the state begin rationing healthcare to keep the state's marquee universal health care program afloat financially.

The July 16 recommendations, the Boston Globe explained, would result in a situation where "patients could find it harder to get procedures they want but are of questionable benefit if doctors are operating within a budget.
And they might find it more difficult to get care wherever they want, if primary doctors push to keep patients within their accountable care organization."
The Globe stressed that the recommendations would "dramatically change how doctors and hospitals are paid, essentially putting providers on a budget as a way to control exploding healthcare costs and improve the quality of care."
"Budget" is a more politically acceptable word for rationing.
The Globe also noted that "consumer advocates said patients are going to have to be educated about the new system." Yes, apparently they will have to get used to having their healthcare rationed.

neither need nor want-or enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance plan-we

44 posted on 08/09/2012 5:20:23 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: COBOL2Java
Nearly 50 posts so far, and a dearth of posts from the Romney apologists! My my...

Count yourself fortunate. I had one mouthy little online Pekingese with delusions of Rottweiler-hood yapping incoherently at me for what seemed like an eternity, last night. Like watching Stephen Hawking attempting to clog dance. ;)

45 posted on 08/09/2012 5:20:23 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: COBOL2Java
RomneyCARE took control of MDs and more in Mass this week.

The MSM are crickets.


"RomneyCare 2.0 With costs rising fast, Massachusetts moves to dictate medical care
Under the plan, all Massachusetts doctors, hospitals and other providers must register
with a new state bureaucracy as a condition of licensure—that is, permission to practice.
They'll be required to track and report their financial performance, price and cost trends,
state-sanctioned quality measures, market share and other metrics."



Emergency room visits grow in Mass. New insurance law did not reduce number of users
The number of people visiting hospital emergency rooms has climbed in Massachusetts,
despite the enactment of nearly universal health insurance that some hoped would reduce expensive emergency department use."


Back to the ObamaCare Future (price controls in Massachusetts)
Natural experiments are rare in politics, but few are as instructive as the prototype for
ObamaCare that Massachusetts set in motion in 2006.
Last month, Democratic Governor Deval Patrick landed a neutron bomb, proposing hard
price controls across almost all Massachusetts health care. State regulators already have
the power to cap insurance premiums, which Mr. Patrick is activating. He also filed a bill
that would give state regulators the power to review the rates of hospitals, physician
groups and some specialty providers.

It doesn't even count as an irony that former Governor Mitt Romney (like President Obama) sold this plan as a way to control spending"


"The Huge Middle Class Tax Increase Coming Our Way With ObamaCare
The former CBO director, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, warns today on the effect ObamaCare
will have on our economy and health care. These facts should be painfully obvious to
those with even one iota of common sense. This bill will lead to a huge middle class tax increase:
Remember when health-care reform was supposed to make life better for the middle
class? That dream began to unravel this past summer when Congress proposed a bill that
failed to include any competition-based reforms that would actually bend the curve of
health-care costs. It fell apart completely when Democrats began papering over the
gaping holes their plan would rip in the federal budget.

As it now stands, the plan proposed by Democrats and the Obama administration would
not only fail to reduce the cost burden on middle-class families, it would make that burden significantly worse.

The bill creates a new health entitlement program that the Congressional Budget Office
(CBO) estimates will grow over the longer term at a rate of 8% annually, which is much
faster than the growth rate of the economy or tax revenues. This is the same growth rate
as the House bill that Sen. Kent Conrad (D., N.D.) deep-sixed by asking the CBO to tell
the truth about its impact on health-care costs.

To avoid the fate of the House bill and achieve a veneer of fiscal sensibility, the Senate
did three things: It omitted inconvenient truths, it promised that future Congresses will
make tough choices to slow entitlement spending, and it dropped the hammer on the middle class.

One inconvenient truth is the fact that Congress will not allow doctors to suffer a 24% cut in their Medicare reimbursements. "


"DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS
In August Sarah Palin wrote extensively about the incredible danger that ObamaCare
would lead to what amounts to "death panels." This of course caused great controversy
with many claiming Palin was either "crazy" or talking about the "end of life"
discussions that were provided for within House Resolution 3200, the prototype
ObamaCare bill.
As more Americans delve into the disturbing details of the nationalized health care plan
that the current administration is rushing through Congress, our collective jaw is
dropping, and we're saying not just no, but hell no!

The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of
health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care
will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the
most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The
America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down
Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's "death panel" so his bureaucrats can
decide, based on a subjective judgment of their "level of productivity in society," whether
they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil. .
Now we have news from Massachusetts, the home of RomneyCare, which should be
looked at as a shining example of why ObamaCare will be an epic failure. Soaring costs
both to the taxpayers and patients was inevitable, and now the effects of these are coming home to roost.
You can't reap these savings without limiting patients' choices in some way,"


"You can't reap these savings without limiting patients' choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess.

The state's ambitious plan to shake up how providers are paid could have a hidden price
for patients: Controlling Massachusetts' soaring medical costs, many health care leaders
believe, may require residents to give up their nearly unlimited freedom to go to any
hospital and specialist they want.

Efforts to keep patients in a defined provider network, or direct them to lower-cost
hospitals could be unpopular, especially in a state where more than 40 percent of hospital
care is provided in expensive academic medical centers and where many insurance
policies allow patients access to large numbers of providers. ."


"State plan may place limits on patients' hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )"


"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
My husband retired from IBM about a decade ago, and as we aren't old enough for
Medicare we still buy our health insurance through the company. But IBM, with its
typical courtesy, informed us recently that we will be fined by the state.
Why? Because Massachusetts requires every resident to have health insurance, and this
year, without informing us directly, the state had changed the rules in a way that made
our bare-bones policy no longer acceptable. Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor want-or enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance plan-we
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
My husband's response was muted; I was shaking mad. We hadn't imposed our health-
care costs on anyone else, yet we were being fined ("taxed" was the word the letter used).

We've spent much of our lives putting away what money we could for retirement. We
always intended to be self-sufficient. We've paid off the mortgage on our home, don't
carry credit-card debt, and have savings in case of an emergency. We also have a regular
monthly income of about $3,000, which includes an IBM pension. My husband, 61, earns
a little money on the side, sometimes working as an electronics consultant on renewable
energy projects. I'm 58 and make some money writing science books. We are not
wealthy, but we aren't a risk of becoming a burden on society either. How did we become outlaws? "


"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
"Three years ago, the former Massachusetts Governor had the inadvertent good sense to create the "universal" health-care program that the White House and Congress now want to inflict on the entire country.
It is proving to be instructive, as Mr. Romney's foresight previews what President Obama, Max Baucus, Ted Kennedy and Pete Stark are cooking up for everyone else.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis, Governor Deval Patrick and his Democratic colleagues are starting to move down the path that government health plans always follow when spending collides with reality -- i.e., price controls.
As costs continue to rise, the inevitable results are coverage restrictions and waiting periods. It was only a matter of time.

They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006.

What really whipped along RomneyCare were claims that health care would be less expensive if everyone were covered.
But reducing costs while increasing access are irreconcilable issues.
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State's 'Grand Experiment' Fails [RomneyCare]
"The Daily News Record, Harrisonburg, Va. - 2009-03-31 "
"For folks increasingly leery of President Obama's plan to radically overhaul America's health-care system,
or 17 percent of the nation's economy, all this could hardly have come at a better time -
that is, fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romney's brainchild, Massachusetts' "grand experiment" in "universal" health care."

"Initiated on Mr. Romney's gubernatorial watch in 2006, this "experiment" has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
"RomneyCare" is threatening to bankrupt the state. Budgeted for Fiscal Year 2010 at $880 million,
or 7.3 percent more than a year ago, this plan, aimed at providing low- or no-cost health coverage to roughly 165,000 residents,
has caused Massachusetts' overall expenditures on all health-related programs to jump an astounding 42 percent since 2006.

So what does Mr. Romney's successor, Democratic Gov. Deval Patrick, propose as a remedy for these skyrocketing costs?
Well, whaddya think? The standard litany of prescriptions (no pun intended) - price controls and spending caps, for a start, and then, again predictably, waiting periods and limitations on coverage.
As in Europe and Canada, so too in Massachusetts. And, we feel certain, everyone from Mr. Romney to Mr. Patrick said, "It would never happen here."
But then, such things are inevitable when best-laid plans, with all their monstrous costs, run smack-dab into fiscal reality.


Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care.

Sedalia, Colo. - In his recent speech to Congress, President Obama could have promoted
healthcare reforms that tapped the power of a truly free market to lower costs and
improve access. Instead, he chose to offer a national version of the failing
"Massachusetts plan" based on mandatory health insurance. This is a recipe for disaster.

Three years ago, Massachusetts adopted a plan requiring all residents to purchase health
insurance, with state subsidies for lower-income residents. But rather than creating a
utopia of high-quality affordable healthcare, the result has been the exact opposite -
skyrocketing costs, worsened access, and lower quality care.

Under any system of mandatory insurance, the government must necessarily define what
constitutes acceptable insurance. In Massachusetts, this has created a giant magnet for
special interest groups seeking to have their own pet benefits included in the required
package. Massachusetts residents are thus forced to purchase benefits they may neither
need nor want, such as in vitro fertilization, chiropractor services, and autism treatment -
raising insurance costs for everyone to reward a few with sufficient political "pull."

Although similar problems exist in other states, Massachusetts' system of mandatory
insurance delivers the entire state population to the special interests. ."


"'Severe' doc shortage seen hiking wait time The Boston Herald ^ | 9/15/09 | Christine McConville As the state's shortage of primary care doctors grows, people are waiting longer for medical care, according to a new survey by the Massachusetts Medical Society. "The shortage is getting more severe," said Dr. Mario Motta, the medical society's president. The state's health care dilemma can serve as a valuable lesson for a nation whose residents are locked in a frenzied debate about health care reform, he added."


"Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The state's major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year,
prompting many employers to reduce benefits and shift additional costs to workers.
The higher insurance costs undermine a key tenet of the state's landmark health care law
passed two years ago, as well as President Obama's effort to overhaul health care. In
addition to mandating insurance for most residents, the Massachusetts bill sought to rein
in health care costs. With Washington looking to the Massachusetts experience, fears
about higher costs have become a stumbling block to passing a national health care bill."


"Nation's ill-advised to follow Mass. plan [Health plan a failure]
September 17, 2009 The canary is dead.
Massachusetts, the model for the ObamaCare universal insurance plan, is the canary in
the health care coal mine. Yesterday, its obit appeared on the front page of both The Wall
Street Journal and The Boston Globe-Democrat.

Both papers reported that our Commonwealth Care reform isn't working as planned. A
new law that was supposed to control costs and drive prices down (sound familiar?) has
instead sent costs soaring. "



"Bay State Insurance Premiums Highest in Country - Boston Globe August 22, 2009
Massachusetts has the most expensive family health insurance premiums in the country,
according to a new analysis that highlights the state's challenge in trying to rein in medical costs
after passage of a landmark 2006 law that mandated coverage for nearly everyone...
The report by the Commonwealth Fund, a nonprofit health care foundation,
showed that the average family premium for plans offered by employers in Massachusetts was $13,788 in 2008,
40 percent higher than in 2003. Over the same period, premiums nationwide rose an average of 33 percent..."


"Massachusetts: the laboratory for ObamaCare
Cato Institute looks a little farther down the coast to Massachusetts, where the state began its own health-care reform complete
with individual mandates and a government plan.
Cato calls it an "almost perfect" mirror of ObamaCare, complete with promises of reducing cost and extending care - that failed in both respects:
Massachusetts shows that such a mandate would oust millions from their low-cost health plans and force them to pay higher premiums. …


"Massachusetts' Obama-like reforms increase health costs, wait times [RomneyCare]
"If you are curious about how President Barack Obama's health plan would affect your health care, look no farther than Massachusetts.
In 2006, the Bay State enacted a slate of reforms that almost perfectly mirror the plan of Obama and congressional Democrats.
.... Premiums are growing 21 to 46 percent faster than the national average
in part because Massachusetts' individual mandate has effectively outlawed affordable health plans.
"


"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)
A 10-member Massachusetts state healthcare advisory board unanimously recommended
that the state begin rationing healthcare to keep the state's marquee universal health care program afloat financially.

The July 16 recommendations, the Boston Globe explained, would result in a situation where "patients could find it harder to get procedures they want but are of questionable benefit if doctors are operating within a budget.
And they might find it more difficult to get care wherever they want, if primary doctors push to keep patients within their accountable care organization."
The Globe stressed that the recommendations would "dramatically change how doctors and hospitals are paid, essentially putting providers on a budget as a way to control exploding healthcare costs and improve the quality of care."
"Budget" is a more politically acceptable word for rationing.
The Globe also noted that "consumer advocates said patients are going to have to be educated about the new system." Yes, apparently they will have to get used to having their healthcare rationed.

neither need nor want-or enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance plan-we

46 posted on 08/09/2012 5:20:33 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Yes, Ann Coulter WAS in the bag for Romney. Made me angry too. Everyone dumped on Newt, Cain, Bachman so they could beef up Romney. Now apparently stuck with this il-equipped GOP candidate unless we the people provide a floor fight.

Same thing McCain did. He was a wussy during the campaign against 0 in 08, but in 2010 he was a vicious, pull out all the stops candidate to regain his AZ senate seat.

Now Romney is hiding under a rock, under his desk! If he can’t defend these easy, stupid Axelrod attacks, how will he deal with real problems of the world.

Get your brass ones on, Mittens! The GOPe lefties in charge must be stopped before it’s too late! And I have been a proud Republican for years, until about 4 years ago. Now when asked, I say Independant. I will NOT give up my country to this faux in the White House for another 4 years.


47 posted on 08/09/2012 5:46:59 AM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (Can we still nominate someone else at the GOP convention? HHMM? Can we?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Amen to you!

Can’t we dump Romney at the convention? Now THAT would grab headlines.


48 posted on 08/09/2012 5:53:00 AM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (Can we still nominate someone else at the GOP convention? HHMM? Can we?)
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To: RaceBannon

Race: The peoples republic put a cap on health care costs last week, death panels follow, I am glad I moved.


49 posted on 08/09/2012 3:42:08 PM PDT by Little Bill
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