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Episcopal Church promotes the T in LGBT equation
Washington Post ^ | July 30 2012 | Becky Garrison

Posted on 08/08/2012 10:46:05 PM PDT by WilliamIII

Commentators at the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times may decry the Episcopal Church as a place offering pet funerals but nothing for the faithful or failing to provide anything one cannot get from purely secular liberalism. These traditionalists appear to bemoan the loss of a 1950s-era church that promoted an Eisenhower-era civil religion replete with the cross draped in the American flag.

While they wax nostalgia over a past that largely existed only in TV Land,.the Episcopal Church made history at its 77th triennial General Convention by passing two gender nondiscrimination resolutions. Led by a grassroots coalition including, TransEpiscopal, IntegrityUSA, the Consultation, and the Chicago Consultation, the General Convention granted transgender people protection against discrimination in the ordination process and in lay leadership in the Episcopal Church. Such protections remain unavailable in the vast majority of religious and secular institutions as well as in most states and municipalities (only 16 states have transgender nondiscrimination laws on their books.

In an effort to educate those deputies who would be voting on these measures, prior to General Convention, they received copies of documentary “Out of the Box.” This film puts a human face on this topic by telling the stories of both ordained and lay transgender Episcopalians. Also, the presence of a gender neutral bathroom at General Convention afforded those present the opportunity to engage in a discussion of gender identity and expression

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1 posted on 08/08/2012 10:46:12 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

Once the spirit leaves the building, there is nothing left to do but call the realtors.


2 posted on 08/08/2012 10:59:31 PM PDT by marron
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To: WilliamIII
Well the Episcopal Church is really working hard to marginalize itself right in to non-existence. The author said it all right here although he meant it sarcastically.

the Episcopal Church as a place offering pet funerals but nothing for the faithful or failing to provide anything one cannot get from purely secular liberalism.

Most people who go to church are looking for the permanence that is God. They are looking for the unchanging truth and goodness that is God.

But the Episcopal Church is trying to be all things to all people by discriminating against no one. I am sorry but that can not be done in the real world. The Bible specifically instructs the faithful to discriminate against the sinner if he will not repent.

The God loves all of his people but the Church of God is not for everyone.

3 posted on 08/08/2012 11:00:23 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: WilliamIII

ICHABOD.


4 posted on 08/08/2012 11:12:14 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (reality is analog, not digital...)
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To: WilliamIII
While they wax nostalgia over a past that largely existed only in TV Land.

These are the same type of people that criticize "Leave it to Beaver" as not being realistic, but praise "Cosby Show" not because it was realistic, but because it was inspiring...

When I grew up, much of American was like "Leave it to Beaver". How many families do you know that resembled the Cosbys?

The Liberals use television to promote their propaganda. According to TV, 25% of America is Homosexual, and people only travel around in groups of 4 (2 White, 1 Black and 1 Asian or Latino)

5 posted on 08/08/2012 11:33:32 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: WilliamIII

Sad, this would make Robert E. Lee, roll over in his grave, if not reconsider his surrender to Grant.


6 posted on 08/08/2012 11:40:40 PM PDT by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold))
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To: marron

I can’t help but think that those who consider themselves traditional or conservative Christians and yet stay in these apostate churches are aiding and abetting them by staying. It’s not like this is something new or just happening. Were is their line in the sand?

Mel


7 posted on 08/08/2012 11:53:17 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: melsec

“yet stay in these apostate churches”
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Many have left, including myself.
Others are too old to change, and may be oblivious to what has happened.
Even though I was a senior warden, I left back in the 90s, when the radical changes started.
Since I left the USSA for good in 2004, I have had no other choice but the RC church, first in Slovakia, and now in the Philippines.
Before I left, the Lutheran church was a popular option, but I have not kept up with the current trends.


8 posted on 08/09/2012 12:16:24 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: WilliamIII

Mene mene tekel upharsin


9 posted on 08/09/2012 12:56:47 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: melsec

It’s appalling. Last summer, I attended a Sunday service at the Episcopal Church in the town from which my ancestors fought the British in the Revolution and the War of 1812. The talk during the service was of their hope to be able to conduct gay marriages. Finding I was “new,” the lady running the church bookstore made it clear that their litmus test for new members was whether they embraced the promotion of the gay agenda. I will go to the graveyard to thank brave patriots for what they fought for, but I’ve never gone back inside.


10 posted on 08/09/2012 2:41:32 AM PDT by Belle22
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To: Belle22
Finding I was “new,” the lady running the church bookstore made it clear that their litmus test for new members was whether they embraced the promotion of the gay agenda.

I would be curious to know if people like the lady running the church bookstore believes or thinks that men and women are 100% interchangeable?

11 posted on 08/09/2012 3:06:41 AM PDT by olezip
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To: marron

“Once the spirit leaves the building, there is nothing left to do but call the realtors.”

And that’s what they’ve been doing. The episcopals have spent so much money fighting to steal property from fleeing churches, they can’t support the real estate they have due to declining enrollment. Last I heard, they were trying to sell their own headquarters.

It’s demonic, they way they have gutted their church and destroyed it.


12 posted on 08/09/2012 3:08:16 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: I still care

A group I belong to has a constitution/bylaws template that gives our treasury to the national organization on dissolution of the local. I got that taken out, telling the gang that we will have a big party if we ever shut down.


13 posted on 08/09/2012 3:24:30 AM PDT by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 12 y/o granddaughter will have more relevant executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: WilliamIII

I expect at some point masturbation will become a sacrament.


14 posted on 08/09/2012 3:34:24 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: marron

Very well put!


15 posted on 08/09/2012 3:55:48 AM PDT by livius
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To: AlexW

We recently received a little band of former Episcopalians and their priest in my (Catholic) diocese. They are all older people who had suffered for years through the disintegration of their church, and finally they just had to admit that it wasn’t going to get any better. It was very hard for them over the years, and they had been treated with a great deal of hostility by other Episcopalians for their “conservatism” and for not going along with the show. They’re rebuilding their little community now.


16 posted on 08/09/2012 4:11:54 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

I’m one of them! Good riddance! Glad to be in the Catholic church.


17 posted on 08/09/2012 4:32:30 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: livius

“We recently received a little band of former Episcopalians and their priest in my (Catholic) diocese.”
___________________________________________

Thanks for that reply.
The travesty is that the disintegration of all that was good
in the USA is crumbling before our eyes.
From far away I see a country slipping in to an abyss, and if Obama gets another four years, it will be all over for the country.
The destruction of the ECUSA was just an early marker of what may be an incurable disease.
In my previous America, Obumbo would not have over 20 percent approval. Well, he never would have been elected to begin with.


18 posted on 08/09/2012 5:10:47 AM PDT by AlexW
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bump


19 posted on 08/09/2012 5:17:40 AM PDT by foreverfree
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bump


20 posted on 08/09/2012 5:17:42 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: AlexW

“Many have left, including myself.”

Ditto!

I must say in my anger I get a bit too harsh sometimes as there are those who stay and rescue others and God Bless them for their courage!

Mel


21 posted on 08/09/2012 6:23:18 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: Belle22

It’s a terribly bad, sad state of affairs - I hope you still have some brothers and sisters to fellowship with!

Mel


22 posted on 08/09/2012 6:25:46 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: JCBreckenridge
As my family and I fled from the apostasy of the Episcopal church several years ago, I sent a letter to Bishop Wimberly of the DOT warning him of the decay from within.

His response to me was a vehement denial that the Diocese of Texas was on the decline and that it would remain conservative.

DOT now supports homosexual lifestyles and ordination of openly homosexual clergy. So glad to be outta all that mess.

23 posted on 08/09/2012 6:45:48 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: I still care
It’s demonic, the way they have gutted their church and destroyed it.

My wife and I were in Sacramento, CA a few years ago for her brother's graduation. The ceremony was in a convention center in downtown Sac right next to the oldest church in town, a beautiful stone Episcopalian church. After graduation we went into the church to check it out--beautiful stained glass, ornately carved wood pews and paneling, truly a beautiful relic of the past. There was a group of people setting up sound equipment on the altar, getting ready for some event. We spoke to one elderly woman about the church, it's history, etc. We asked what event they were getting ready for and it was a "universal church" service that embraced all religions--eastern, western, whatever. She said, "...because we're all praying to the same god, right?" We didn't respond and just left, saddened at how the church had sold out.

24 posted on 08/09/2012 6:47:18 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: randog

Are you sure this isn’t the Methodist church?


25 posted on 08/09/2012 7:02:54 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Common sense although common knowledge is seldom common practice.)
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To: Belle22

You have mail...


26 posted on 08/09/2012 7:47:17 AM PDT by VMI70
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To: servantboy777
“I sent a letter to Bishop Wimberly of the DOT warning him of the decay from within. His response to me was a vehement denial that the Diocese of Texas was on the decline and that it would remain conservative.”

Seeing as the largest congregation in Texas pulled out of the Episcopal Church, I guess that is not going too well. I think the Diocese of Ft. Worth may have pulled out also.

27 posted on 08/09/2012 8:10:51 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Could have been. It’s the stone church next to the downtown convention center.


28 posted on 08/09/2012 11:14:44 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Gabrial
There is currently a strong conservative Anglican Church presense throughout Texas. I attend St. Timothy's Anglican in Spring area. To name a few.

Hope Pointe in The Woodlands, Texas
Savior Anglican in Magnolia, Texas
St. Timothy's Anglican in Spring, Texas

29 posted on 08/09/2012 11:33:12 AM PDT by servantboy777
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