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Coal Miners’ Union Sits Out Presidential Race
National Journal ^ | August 9,2012 | Amy Harder

Posted on 08/09/2012 6:57:15 AM PDT by Hojczyk

After giving then-Sen. Barack Obama a full-throttled endorsement in the 2008 presidential election, the United Mine Workers of America has decided not to endorse either Obama or the presumptive Republican nominee, Mitt Romney, in 2012.

“As of right now, we’ve elected to stay out of this election,” said Mike Caputo, a UMWA official and a Democratic member of the West Virginia House of Delegates. “Our members right now have indicated to stay out of this race, and that’s why we’ve done that.... I don’t think quite frankly that coalfield folks are crazy about either candidate.”

Both candidates are trying to prove otherwise to voters in coal-intensive swing states. Earlier this week the Obama campaign released in Ohio the first coal-issue ad of this cycle, claiming that Romney has flip-flopped his position on coal. The ad includes comments that Romney made as Massachusetts governor in 2003 standing in front of a coal plant, saying that he wouldn’t support jobs that kill people.

For his part, Romney is claiming Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency is waging a war on coal with a slew of regulations.

Caputo also noted that newly discovered resources of shale natural gas found all over the country, including the coal-intensive states of West Virginia, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, have contributed to coal’s decline as low natural gas prices compel utilities to shift from coal to gas as a power generator.

But politically, the EPA is the culprit for the coal industry’s woes. Throughout Appalachia where Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia converge, the coal industry’s disgruntlement with Obama is plastered on yard signs and billboards.

One billboard alongside a freeway near the Pennsylvania and West Virginia border said drivers were entering “The Obama administration’s no jobs zone.” The billboard was sponsored by a coal-industry group,

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012endorsements; bhoenergy; biglabor; coal; energy; trumka; umw; unionvote

1 posted on 08/09/2012 6:57:18 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Why in the world were the coal miners stupid enough to support The First Dictator when he ran in ‘08, bluntly telling the world that there was no such thing as “clean coal” and his goal was to shut down coal mining? And then they supported the lying Sen. Manchin, who votes consistently with Obama?

They deserve to be unemployed.


2 posted on 08/09/2012 7:01:56 AM PDT by txrefugee
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3 posted on 08/09/2012 7:05:10 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Hojczyk
As of right now, we’ve elected to stay out of this election

Translates: As to the the future of the coal industry and the livelihood of our workers, their families, and their communities, we offer no opinion. Our sworn allegiance to the Democrat party obliges us to withhold support for anyone not endorsed by the Democrat party regardless of the consequences. Our political contributions will continue to support the Democrat party.

4 posted on 08/09/2012 7:07:22 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: txrefugee

Hear, hear!


5 posted on 08/09/2012 7:10:06 AM PDT by Hans
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To: Never on my watch

Hear, hear!


6 posted on 08/09/2012 7:11:19 AM PDT by Hans
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To: Hojczyk

so why has Richie Trumka signed on to help Obama with his “white guy problem”?


7 posted on 08/09/2012 7:14:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Never on my watch

Exactly.


8 posted on 08/09/2012 7:17:12 AM PDT by Obadiah (I am Oscar Mike)
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To: Hojczyk
Idiots! They apparently do not want to accept the fact that they made a mistake, nor that Obama has been pretty clear he'd like to shut down the coal industry.

It's amazing how self-destructive human beings can be.

9 posted on 08/09/2012 7:17:18 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Hojczyk
What is the main purpose for coal miners to organize under union leadership?

It would be useful for the superpacs to run ads of Obama pledging to bankrupt the coal industry in every coal producing state.

10 posted on 08/09/2012 7:17:26 AM PDT by oldbrowser (As long as Obama's records are sealed, any discussion of Romney's past is off limits.)
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To: txrefugee

Its a party loyalty thing but its been changing. I grew up in the area near Fairmont and my Father is a miner. I almost dishowned him when I saw an Obama bumper sticker on his car 2008. There are no bumper stickers this year and the UMWA are not endorsing because miners are not just upset with Obama and his EPA they hate him. There are very few in WV left that like Obama. WV is going to shift solid red eventually. The problem is getting people to realize that supporting a conservative Democrat locally is supporting leftwing environmental nuts, gay marriage, and abortion nationally.


11 posted on 08/09/2012 7:18:56 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Now lets return to our regular scheduled deprogramming.)
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To: txrefugee
"Why in the world were the coal miners stupid enough to support The First Dictator when he ran in ‘08...?"

It's all a matter of racism. When they were employed, the miners were black guys...

...now that they've been unemployed, they're mostly white...


12 posted on 08/09/2012 7:20:52 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Hojczyk
So the union booger eaters won't endorse someone who is running AGAINST the guy who is screwing them over?

They made their bed, let them sleep in it.

13 posted on 08/09/2012 7:24:17 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Slump Tester
So the union booger eaters won't endorse...

Now that's funny!

14 posted on 08/09/2012 7:26:44 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: Never on my watch
Now that's funny!

If you're ten years old

15 posted on 08/09/2012 7:28:29 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Slump Tester
They made their bed, let them sleep in it.

The problem is; when energy and the fuel that drives it are at stake, we are all in the same bed. Unfortunately, union bugger eaters wet the bed.

16 posted on 08/09/2012 7:31:00 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: don-o
If you're ten years old

Did I offend your union allegiance? Lighten up...

17 posted on 08/09/2012 7:34:31 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: Hojczyk
Rich Trumpka (AFL CIO President) was formerly head of the United Mineworkers and he's solidly in Obama's pocket

I guess it's not about the members

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18 posted on 08/09/2012 7:39:49 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Hojczyk

After all Obama has done to the industry, Mr. Caputo still plans to vote for him.

It’s not loyalty, it’s a mental illness.


19 posted on 08/09/2012 7:39:49 AM PDT by nodumbblonde ("The ladder of success is best climbed by stepping on the rungs of opportunity." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Never on my watch

You offended my and every reader’s intelligence.


20 posted on 08/09/2012 7:43:21 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Never on my watch
You can bet the coal workers themselves will not vote for Obama. The Unio understands after Obama cost them so many jobs stage a massive revolt and they would lose their cushy jobs.that if they did support him the rank and file would.
21 posted on 08/09/2012 7:43:57 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: Never on my watch
You can bet the coal workers themselves will not vote for Obama. The Unio understands after Obama cost them so many jobs stage a massive revolt and they would lose their cushy jobs.that if they did support him the rank and file would.
22 posted on 08/09/2012 7:43:57 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: Never on my watch
You can bet the coal workers themselves will not vote for Obama. The Unio understands after Obama cost them so many jobs stage a massive revolt and they would lose their cushy jobs.that if they did support him the rank and file would.
23 posted on 08/09/2012 7:43:57 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: Never on my watch
You can bet the coal workers themselves will not vote for Obama. The Unio understands after Obama cost them so many jobs stage a massive revolt and they would lose their cushy jobs.that if they did support him the rank and file would.
24 posted on 08/09/2012 7:44:15 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: Hojczyk

The UMW is a joke.


25 posted on 08/09/2012 7:45:01 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: Maelstorm

Too late and too bad for them.

UMWA and their most famous living progeny, Richard Trumka, were and are fully in the tank for the ‘Rats. They fail to acknowledge that it isn’t just Obama, it is the whole progressive commie ‘Rat apparatus of politics, academia, media and law who are killing them. Not supporting Obama will do nothing for their fortunes if they fail to cut off the other heads of the Hydra.

In the grand ‘Rat scheme of things, UMWA is small potatoes who can be safely discarded in the interest of appeasing their other, larger constituencies.

The members of organized labor never get the fundamental truth: The struggle isn’t labor vs. management. Management and labor are in the same corporate boat, they sink or swim together. It is labor vs. labor. When some people will sell their labor more cheaply, someone will take them up on it and gain a competetive cost advantage. Union people like to call them scabs.

Right down the road, IBEW 5 is an enthusiastic Obama fan club. They know that all of these (useless government-mandated) windmills will need to be wired to a massive electrical collection grid. They intend to build that grid (using taxpayer subsidies since the things can’t pay for themselves). Do the UMWA think that IBEW gives a fart whether they prosper or starve? Not for a second.


26 posted on 08/09/2012 7:47:50 AM PDT by SargeK
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To: Hojczyk

UNION is not supporting their union workers! Romney supports the coal industry, whereas Ozero wants to put the coal industry “out of business”. But the “Union” will not support Romney! To treat Romney/Ozero the same is asanine!


27 posted on 08/09/2012 7:48:30 AM PDT by CardeadInKy ("The problem with Liberalism is that eventually you run out of other people's money" -Marg Thatcher)
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To: Hojczyk

Closed the barn door, but the darned horse is missing!

Serves ‘em right!


28 posted on 08/09/2012 7:49:18 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: moder_ator

please delete posts #22-24.

Sorry but I have no idea why I am getting multiple posts when I am only hitting the post function once.


29 posted on 08/09/2012 7:49:23 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: Hojczyk

Only one candidate has pledged to put you out of a job—Barack Obama.


30 posted on 08/09/2012 7:49:23 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: beenaround

You can bet the coal workers themselves will not vote for Obama. The Union understands after Obama cost them so many jobs,if they did support him the rank and file would stage a massive revolt and they would lose their cushy jobs.


31 posted on 08/09/2012 7:53:20 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: Hojczyk

Idiots. If the rank and file had any sense they’d throw THEIR bums out!


32 posted on 08/09/2012 7:54:39 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: txrefugee
Why in the world were the coal miners stupid enough to support The First Dictator when he ran in ‘08

West Virginia voted for McCain.


33 posted on 08/09/2012 7:54:51 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Hojczyk

The coal miners were just one of the biggest saps in America to believe and support King Obama, the dictator and job killer. So suffer, miners. Get the hell out of the Union. You are going to end without anything the Union promised you. The Unions have lived out their usefulness.


34 posted on 08/09/2012 7:54:58 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: MEGoody
Obama has been pretty clear he'd like to shut down the coal industry.

So they can turn to Romney?

Earlier this week the Obama campaign released in Ohio the first coal-issue ad of this cycle, claiming that Romney has flip-flopped his position on coal. The ad includes comments that Romney made as Massachusetts governor in 2003 standing in front of a coal plant, saying that he wouldn’t support jobs that kill people.

They don't seem to have anywhere to go.

I wonder if "union solidarity" is going to kick in -- other unions supporting the position of the UMW; well, I mean other trade unions, of course. This is no skin off the nose of public sector unions!

35 posted on 08/09/2012 7:56:26 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Hojczyk

The UMW will find ways to support him one way or another to support their communist Party. There are extra benefits for Party members like him.

Pray for America


36 posted on 08/09/2012 8:10:16 AM PDT by bray (If you vote for a Communist, what's that make you?)
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To: Hojczyk

From one who detests the NEED for any unions, the coal industry still needs someone on the side of the workers. There are still too many coal companies which cut safety corners and they need to be held in check.

Being hundreds of feet below the surface I want these men to have someone speak for them and, I can’t believe I am saying this but maybe a OSHA rep down in every mine every day.

Other than that, unions suck and in most instances today are nothing more than the result of the success of the communist manifesto.

The fact that the heads of the coal miner’s union would not do everything to assure a self avowed hater of the coal industry is soundly defeated defies logic and common sense.

This is proof positive of how much influence the communist party has in labor unions that they would rather have someone destroy their industry as long as he was a communist.


37 posted on 08/09/2012 8:11:04 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Hojczyk
"...I don’t think quite frankly that coalfield folks are crazy about either candidate.”

Yep, one has spent the past three years destroying our industry and livelihood...and the other is a Republican!

38 posted on 08/09/2012 8:16:47 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: VeniVidiVici

So let’s see, the Bamster wants to bankrupt the coal industry and their Union simply says they will sit this one out? Unbelievable. The freaking Union should be working to get this guy out of office so fast it would make one’s head spin.


39 posted on 08/09/2012 8:23:44 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Wurlitzer
maybe a OSHA rep down in every mine every day

would have to be an MSHA rep, Mine Saftey and Health Adminsitration oversees coal mine safety.

40 posted on 08/09/2012 8:30:56 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

“would have to be an MSHA rep, Mine Saftey and Health Adminsitration oversees coal mine safety.


Just another duplication in our government. OSHA is all that is needed. Regardless of the alphabet, at least one should be in the mines anytime workers are down there.

Not saying you are wrong and in fact, as it stands today you are correct.


41 posted on 08/09/2012 8:37:21 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Logical me

As a former union Steamfitter (UA leads the way), I recall that in either 1982 or 1984 the UA Journal came out with their election endorsements. In the article it advised memebers to support their local candidate who they felt would best represent their interests. When I showed this to my dad who was until the day he died an anti-union Missouri Republican he nearly fell out of his chair.

I just looked at the UA website and they are also supporting Obama and praising his decision on the Oklahoma to the Gulf pipeline but mysteriously silent on Keystone.

From time to time I still run in to my friends that remain in the union and question them about why they support elitest, environmental, anti growth candidates and organizations that have publicly stated that are against every size, shape and type of industrial project or expansion of an existing facilty that would put tens of thousands of their union brothers to work! One of them is the Local shop organizer and I would consider him to have model Christian Conservative values in every sense but he votes with them lockstep, which I explain to him is he height of hypocrisy and he knows it..

On the flip side while I was still in the trade the day to day rank and file detested the “Toon” because he was a draft dodger.


42 posted on 08/09/2012 8:40:42 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: Hojczyk

While this is nice, Obama has no chance of Winning WV, and never did... but what this does do is take the money they would have given to the Dems out of play for the national race.

WV Democrats learned the hard way, your party doesn’t give a DAMN ABOUT YOU!


43 posted on 08/09/2012 8:46:34 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: xsmommy
...maybe a OSHA rep down in every mine every day...

...would have to be an MSHA rep, Mine Saftey and Health Administration oversees coal mine safety.

Shoot, I'm surprised they don't have TSA agents patting down the miners before they enter the elevator.

44 posted on 08/09/2012 9:16:43 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: Never on my watch

LOVE your tagline!


45 posted on 08/09/2012 9:21:13 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Hojczyk; All

They’re a union so they “can’t” support the Republican, just decline to endorse the Democrat? Cowards.


46 posted on 08/09/2012 9:37:12 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Spread the word: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2915810/posts)
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To: don-o
You offended my and every reader’s intelligence.

Being spring-loaded to be offended is a very liberal characteristic. I wouldn't attribute that to other Freepers, even if you happen to have fragile sensitivities.

There is a lot of freedom if you let go of that concern. The issues at hand are far more important than me laughing at someones apt analogy.

47 posted on 08/09/2012 10:01:39 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: Never on my watch

Thanks for sratghtening me out. I must have lost my mind there for a minute.

How could I have NOT recognized the sheer brilliance in the “booger eater” comment?


48 posted on 08/09/2012 11:08:09 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: don-o

Your welcome!


49 posted on 08/09/2012 12:18:58 PM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: Hojczyk

BTTT!


50 posted on 08/09/2012 4:06:05 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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