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Summit County sheriff worried about surge in CCW permits
News Channel 5 ^ | 9 Aug 2012 | Bob Jones

Posted on 08/09/2012 5:37:50 PM PDT by smokingfrog

AKRON, Ohio - Summit County Sheriff Drew Alexander said he's concerned about a surge in the number of residents applying for a carrying concealed weapon permit.

"I think you have to understand in today's society, we don't know who is carrying weapons out there," Alexander said.

In 2011, the Summit County Sheriff's department issued 1,252 CCW permits. That number will easily be surpassed this year. The department has issued 1,168 permits through July and 93 more applications were submitted in the first nine days of August.

"The recent shootings in Colorado and Wisconsin obviously are having some effect," Alexander said.

Alexander said he supports the 2nd amendment, the right to bear arms, but is bothered that Ohio's CCW law only calls for 10 hours of firearms training in a classroom and an additional two hours of experience shooting at a range.

He would like to see those hours increased and more thorough background checks conducted.

"The average citizen that' getting their CCW license out there doesn't have the firearms training that a lot of NRA members and law enforcement officers have," Alexander said.

The Dayton Daily News reported that the state's sheriffs issued 18,823 CCW permits in the first three months of 2012. That's about a 40 percent increase from the same period two years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsnet5.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; concealedcarry

1 posted on 08/09/2012 5:37:55 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Drew Alexander is an idiot.
If they have a CHL you know exactly who they are.

Worry about the bad guys dumbass!


2 posted on 08/09/2012 5:41:39 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: smokingfrog

Hey Sheriff, when is the last time a CC holder was arrested for breaking he law?


3 posted on 08/09/2012 5:41:56 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: smokingfrog

If I were a Summit county resident, I’d be “concerned” that maybe we need a new Sheriff.


4 posted on 08/09/2012 5:42:54 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small, Miss Small)
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To: smokingfrog

I live in north central Ohio. Our county sheriff makes it easy for residents to get their CCW’s.

If we can take care of ourselves...it’s less work for him and his deputies.


5 posted on 08/09/2012 5:43:35 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: smokingfrog

Sheriff Drew (Puddles) Alexander


6 posted on 08/09/2012 5:43:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: smokingfrog

10 hours is a lot of training.
Ohio has the same requirements for training that Texas has.


7 posted on 08/09/2012 5:43:48 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: smokingfrog; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; ...

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8 posted on 08/09/2012 5:45:46 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (".....All 57 states must stand together and defeat usurper O-bozo!.....")
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To: smokingfrog

The good sheriff is worried about two things:

1) He can’t control the legitimate tenets of the Second Amendment any longer.
2) He knows that he’s failing at his job and the people sensing it are arming themselves.

There is just no data to suggest that in states where people can carry guns that there is any increase in gun violence. Probably the reverse is true. Maybe it’s time for the LEO’s to partner with the citizens instead of trying to subjugate and abuse them.


9 posted on 08/09/2012 5:47:04 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: smokingfrog

Teresko and Martin make sense.
Heck, Teresko is just a young guy and he gets it.


10 posted on 08/09/2012 5:47:57 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: bimboeruption

Get rid of the regulation altogether and I’m betting you’ll find that a lot of people become true experts even without the 10 hour course.


11 posted on 08/09/2012 5:48:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: smokingfrog
"I think you have to understand in today's society, we don't know who is carrying weapons out there," Alexander said.

Hey! Dummkopf! Cops with guns are more likely to commit crimes with guns than CCW-holders.

...the average citizen -- yes, even the average cop -- is much more likely to commit a crime with a gun than is a gun owner with a concealed carry permit.

http://gunowners.org/vpc10122011.htm

12 posted on 08/09/2012 5:48:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the collectivists.)
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To: Rebelbase

Here in Texas it is a percentage of percent of the time.

Like .04% of overall gun crimes.


13 posted on 08/09/2012 5:50:04 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: cripplecreek

You are correct, my Friend.


14 posted on 08/09/2012 5:50:18 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: smokingfrog

It’s time for Summit County Sheriff Drew Alexander to resign and take up residence in some community in Mexico where citizens don’t want their silly guns and all are safe from those bitter clingers, and Drew wouldn’t have to wet his pants so often.


15 posted on 08/09/2012 5:50:25 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: smokingfrog

I understand the Sheriff’s concern, I really do. But he has to understand that he’s concerned about a problem he doesn’t have yet, and a problem that he does have - that all of us have - is criminals who are armed. I would gently suggest that for his own peace of mind he concentrate on the problem he does have and leave the potential ones to their own time.


16 posted on 08/09/2012 5:55:06 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: smokingfrog

Lisa Kopec Tuma is a real piece of work in the comments.


17 posted on 08/09/2012 5:55:43 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: bimboeruption

I’m an “extremist” who thinks all free men have a right to be armed. If they’re too dangerous to carry a gun, they belong in prison.


18 posted on 08/09/2012 5:55:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: smokingfrog

I grew up in NE Ohio. These fools have screwed up Summit Co. for quite a while now.

Drew Alexander and his whole extended family of inbred idiots are a bunch of useless eaters.


19 posted on 08/09/2012 5:56:28 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: smokingfrog; Bender2
I would carry concealed Photobucket but I couldn't find a place to put it.

Some of us don't have internal storage compartments big enough to hide a tommygun in.

20 posted on 08/09/2012 5:56:59 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: smokingfrog

This jackass doesn’t realize that he’s never known who’s carrying?

Idjit!


21 posted on 08/09/2012 5:57:04 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: smokingfrog
What state is it illegal to catch a mouse without a hunting license?

Ohio

Figures

22 posted on 08/09/2012 5:58:01 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Ambition Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse")
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To: smokingfrog
Shove it Alexander. The 12 hour class is way more than most states require. A man shouldn't have to pay $200 and lose a day of work just to exercise a right. Furthermore, there's no evidence to support the claim that the 12 hour class is insufficient. Making it more difficult will also make it more difficult to enter into reciprocity agreements with other states, Pennsylvania specifically. We need to be working with PA to develop a reciprocity agreement, not working to make it more difficult.
23 posted on 08/09/2012 5:59:12 PM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: smokingfrog
"The average citizen that' getting their CCW license out there doesn't have the firearms training that a lot of NRA members and law enforcement officers have," Alexander said.

A lot of non-NRA members have more training and shoot/practice more than the cops.

24 posted on 08/09/2012 5:59:12 PM PDT by rllngrk33 (Things will continue getting worse until January 21, 2013.)
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To: rllngrk33

I have had difficulty with several cops for bad gun habits.
I don’t mean to ding on them (I do when I have to), but please don’t ding on us when we’ve done nothing wrong.


25 posted on 08/09/2012 6:04:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: smokingfrog
"I think you have to understand in today's society, we don't know who is carrying weapons out there," Alexander said.

The Gov'mint knows.

This asshat is lamenting that the CRIMINALS don't know.

Or did I just contradict myself?

26 posted on 08/09/2012 6:04:41 PM PDT by Waywardson (If you fear Obama..... vote for Romney. If you fear God... DON'T !)
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To: smokingfrog

Said Sheriff Alexander (the Not Great): “ “I think you have to understand in today’s society, we don’t know who is carrying weapons out there,”.

Uhh - Iz you jivin’ bout Da Hoodies an their gunz in da Hood?

Or are you slandering the honest citizens who are exercising their 2nd Amendment Rights?


27 posted on 08/09/2012 6:09:26 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: smokingfrog
"I think you have to understand in today's society, we don't know who is carrying weapons out there," Alexander said.

Sheriff, I think YOU "have to understand" SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

FReepers in his county, y'all need a new sheriff.

28 posted on 08/09/2012 6:11:31 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: smokingfrog
Poor Sherrif!

If he could just grasp the whole “armed citizen” concept, he would worry much less about new applications for CCWs. He could start honestly expressing his fears that there is a high probability that he won't be able to forcibly stop an uprising amid the general law abiding populace, if/when they ever get fed up with his incompetence.

29 posted on 08/09/2012 6:11:59 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: cripplecreek

I like the rules we have in AZ. You would, too. :^)


30 posted on 08/09/2012 6:13:40 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: mylife

And WHY should he care about who’s carrying weapons

LEGALLY AFTER INTENSE BACKGROUND CHECKS AND TRAINING?

unless he’s one of those “only agents of the state should be armed” kinda guys...


31 posted on 08/09/2012 6:16:05 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: smokingfrog

Many sheriffs’ departments are adopting more policies of municipal police departments and contemporary academia (e.g., women’s studies).


32 posted on 08/09/2012 6:21:09 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: GraceG
Re: ...but I couldn't find a place... to put it...

Nope, not going to... go there--

I will! I... will!

Okay, Sulu, but you'll be sorry... when you find what you find when get there--

33 posted on 08/09/2012 6:25:55 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: smokingfrog
“I think you have to understand in today's society, we don't know who is carrying weapons out there,”

Let the people open carry like the LEO’s do and that problem is solved. Pus he Leo”s will learn to treat the citizens with respect instead of like slaves.

34 posted on 08/09/2012 6:29:12 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: Cyber Liberty
I just love old gun ads.

Photobucket
35 posted on 08/09/2012 6:36:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: MrB

Exactly!!!


36 posted on 08/09/2012 6:58:56 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: smokingfrog

It’s a sign that people have lost faith in the ability of law enforcement personnel to do their job, being subverted by political and financial interests as they are. Police officers used to be respected members of the community, but that all changed when politics and psychological picking of the worst traits became common. The cops I see today are a mere shadow of the real police officers I seen in my youth. When I grew up, police were part of the community, looking out for our best interests, they were approachable. The current crop of cops are like an occupying army, to be feared and loathed.


37 posted on 08/09/2012 7:14:47 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: bimboeruption

“I live in north central Ohio. Our county sheriff makes it easy for residents to get their CCW’s.”

Wayne County? I live in Northfield Center. The tiny part of Summit that juts into Cuyahoga County. The next town North, Northfield Village,,,, well,,, the demographics are changing. Not “Suburban Sprawl,” More like “Urban Crawl.” My house is well protected, but,,,, I’m fixin’ it up. Gonna sell and move further out!

Went to downtown Cleveland two weeks ago, to have Dim Sum at my favorite restaurant, Bo Loong. Had to park on the side street, as the lot was full. There was a bunch of “Youths” walking away from me, but when they saw this old guy park his car, they turned around, and headed my way. I was carrying,,,, not supposed to, and I had my “special” cane. A bone breaker! I got back in my car and split for Li Wah. Didn’t need the aggravation. Called the cops though.


38 posted on 08/09/2012 7:35:43 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: smokingfrog
Alexander said he supports the 2nd amendment, the right to bear arms, but is bothered that Ohio's CCW law only calls for 10 hours of firearms training in a classroom and an additional two hours of experience shooting at a range.

Any time you hear a well paid government "employee" say he supports the Second Amendment, the one thing you can be absolutely sure of is the vermin is going to add "but," followed by a bunch of qualifiers and/or complaints and/or baseless fears and/or whining.

Fire the bums. There's no shortage of people who can do their jobs and respect our civil rights.

39 posted on 08/09/2012 7:39:07 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: smokingfrog

ping


40 posted on 08/09/2012 10:19:21 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: smokingfrog

More about this TURD:
http://www.co.summit.oh.us/sheriff/bioalexander.htm

Looks like a Mr “Buzz-Word”. Summit County Ohio YOU have WORK to do!


41 posted on 08/10/2012 7:17:15 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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