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High-Ranking Mexican Drug Cartel Explosive Allegation: Fast and Furious Is Not What You Think
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/high-ranking-mexican-drug-cartel-member-makes-explosive-allegation-fast-and-furious-is-not-what-you-think-it-is/ ^ | 8/09/2012

Posted on 08/09/2012 6:53:21 PM PDT by LadyEleanor

A high-ranking Mexican drug cartel operative currently in U.S. custody is making startling allegations that the failed federal gun-walking operation known as “Fast and Furious” isn’t what you think it is.

It wasn’t about tracking guns, it was about supplying them — all part of an elaborate agreement between the U.S. government and Mexico’s powerful Sinaloa Cartel to take down rival cartels.

The explosive allegations are being made by Jesus Vicente Zambada-Niebla, known as the Sinaloa Cartel’s “logistics coordinator.” He was extradited to the Chicago last year to face federal drug charges.

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; corruption; fastandfurious; gunrunner; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; mexico; sourcetitlenoturl

1 posted on 08/09/2012 6:53:36 PM PDT by LadyEleanor
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To: LadyEleanor

This is not news to those of us who were paying attention.


2 posted on 08/09/2012 6:55:12 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

No it’s not news to those who can analyze events that span more than one news cycle.


3 posted on 08/09/2012 7:01:06 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: LadyEleanor
I'll bet Jesus commits arkiside soon.

4 posted on 08/09/2012 7:02:30 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Jonty30

Nope - I just sent this to my email list with a the note “we told you so.”


5 posted on 08/09/2012 7:10:20 PM PDT by LadyEleanor
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To: LadyEleanor

Don’t take your eyes off the prize boys. It is going to reap benefits. See tag.


6 posted on 08/09/2012 7:16:04 PM PDT by halfright (FAST & FURIOUS! DON'T ALLOW THEM TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION.)
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To: LadyEleanor
The Sinaloa Cartel was allegedly permitted to traffic massive amounts of drugs across the U.S. border from 2004 to 2009 — during both Fast and Furious and Bush-era gunrunning operations — as long as the intel kept coming.


7 posted on 08/09/2012 7:17:28 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: LadyEleanor
Now now, Ricky and Racky were just killing the Mexicans and Border agents that Americans were unwilling to kill themselves.

Look over there, Sports!!!

8 posted on 08/09/2012 7:18:40 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Iron Munro

Bush had six years to secure the border.


9 posted on 08/09/2012 7:22:27 PM PDT by LadyEleanor
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To: LadyEleanor

Wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

If you think people like Kennedy got rich from bootlegging, the profits from drugs during prohibition are exponentially higher.

Back then people smuggled entire truckloads of liquor for good profit. Today the same profit potential can be concealed inside an airbag or someone’s stomach.


10 posted on 08/09/2012 7:22:49 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: LadyEleanor

[sincerity, average] Shocking. Just shocking. [/sincerity]


11 posted on 08/09/2012 7:30:04 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: varyouga
" To accomplish this, he used every tool at his disposal: Boeing 747 cargo planes, narco-submarines, container ships, speed boats, fishing vessels, buses, rail cars, tractor trailers and automobiles"

AND a CIA rendition plane that had flown to Guantanamo more than once. Interestingly enough, the markings on the plane were never changed before they loaded up over 6000 pounds of cocaine.



12 posted on 08/09/2012 7:33:02 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Jonty30

Yep, it’s what I immediately thought from the very first.


13 posted on 08/09/2012 7:34:19 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: RummyChick

http://www.narconews.com/Issue67/article4620.html

US soldiers are operating inside Mexico as part of the drug war and the Mexican government provided critical intelligence to US agents in the now-discredited Fast and Furious gun-running operation, a Mexican diplomat claims in email correspondence with a Texas-based private intelligence firm.

The emails, obtained and made public by the nonprofit media organization WikiLeaks, also disclose details of a secret meeting between US and Mexican officials held in 2010 at Fort Bliss, a US Army installation located near El Paso, Texas. The meeting was part of an effort to create better communications between US undercover operatives in Mexico and the Mexican federal police, the Mexican diplomat reveals.

However, the diplomat expresses concern that the Fort Bliss meeting was infiltrated by the “cartels,” whom he contends have “penetrated both US and Mexican law enforcement.”

much more the link


14 posted on 08/09/2012 7:40:33 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: LadyEleanor

If anything he has said is true he wont make it alive to testify in a court of law I will bet...


15 posted on 08/09/2012 7:40:54 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Iron Munro

One thing I seemed to always notice when a big Cartel bust was unvieled by Mexican Police was an unusual number of M-4’s with M203 grenade launchers, as well as a whole lot of 40mm shells.

Subconsciously, I just assumed those things were floating around on the international arms market, or they were getting them out of Mexican military armories. Now you wonder.


16 posted on 08/09/2012 7:59:57 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: LadyEleanor

Wonder why he was extradicted to Chicago of all freaking places? Wouldn’t the jurisdiction be at the place of the state where the crimes were committed?

The man is seriously suicidal if this can be proven. How long will he last in Chicago?


17 posted on 08/09/2012 8:05:30 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: ColdSteelTalon

ColdSteelTalon “ If anything he has said is true he wont make it alive to testify in a court of law I will bet...”

He will be “Vince Fostered”, having committed suicide in his cell with his hands tied behind his back , hanging in his cell , and shot with 9mm (although the gun will never be found) , along with a suicide note.

Fast and Furious was about supplying arms to the Cartels to protect spook drug transactions.


18 posted on 08/09/2012 8:07:00 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ("Political Correctness is tyranny with manners " ~ Charlton Heston)
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To: rawcatslyentist
I find it hard to believe that all this gun and drug running was going on but no money was exchanged between the cartel and government. They let the cartel bring 747s full of drugs into the country and nobody got paid off? Somebody was collecting duffel-bags full of money during this operation.
19 posted on 08/09/2012 8:08:58 PM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: Nailbiter

for later read


20 posted on 08/09/2012 8:15:21 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: peeps36
In addition to representing the terrorists held in Guantanamo Bay, Eric Holder's old law firm also are the mob lawyers for the Sinaloa Cowboys.

What a coincidence.

Another strange coincidence is that the Cartel driven violence ramped up from a low level of violence among cartel members in Jan 2009 when Obama took office to to a fever pitch of senseless, gruesome mass murder of both cartel members and innocent bystanders by the end of 2010.

Soon after the new Republicans took office in Congress after the 2010 elections when facts about Fast and Furious began to be made public and Issa began his investigation, the extreme violence in Mexico abruptly began to subside all on their own with no corresponding crack down by law enforcement on either side of the border. For the last year or so there have been minimal reports of cartel driven violence in Mexico.

Very strange. I am not sure I am comfortable with some of the conclusions that can be inferred from the recent events on both sides of the border.

21 posted on 08/09/2012 9:08:35 PM PDT by rdcbn
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It baffles me why anyone would support this so called drug war.

Supporting the drug war is actually just funneling money into criminals’ pockets at all levels of government.

Why are people so fervent in their beliefs that the drug war benefits us at the peon level?


22 posted on 08/09/2012 9:13:24 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: rdcbn

Since when do crooks become believable? Do we just pick and choose what to believe from his story? Eric Holder is up to his neck in this muck.


23 posted on 08/09/2012 9:24:30 PM PDT by mia
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To: LadyEleanor

Too movie script sounding to me. I think it was about using F&F to push for more gun control.

Now, not to say I don’t mind a good conspiracy...wouldn’t surprise me if the governmet wasn’t “Bourning” nuts to go on shooting sprees for political reasons.

BTW, does anyone think that if the AZ Rep Gibbons was a Republican the media would be sympathetic? Hell no, they’d basically say she had it coming.


24 posted on 08/09/2012 9:33:39 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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To: rdcbn
Another strange coincidence is that the Cartel driven violence ramped up from a low level of violence among cartel members in Jan 2009 when Obama took office to to a fever pitch of senseless, gruesome mass murder of both cartel members and innocent bystanders by the end of 2010.

It was already ramping up by 2009...

Killings in Drug War in Mexico Double in ’08

The number of gangland killings reached 5,376 from the beginning of the year until Dec. 2, a 117 percent increase over the 2,477 killings in the same period in 2007, Mr. Medina-Mora said in a luncheon meeting with foreign correspondents.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/09/world/americas/09mexico.html

25 posted on 08/09/2012 10:23:34 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Robe

Ping


26 posted on 08/09/2012 10:25:07 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: LadyEleanor

This “operative “ is a criminal, a foreigner and in custody. He will say whatever DOJ wants him to in order to cut a deal.


27 posted on 08/10/2012 12:02:46 AM PDT by virgil
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To: virgil

To: LadyEleanor
If anything he has said is true he wont make it alive to testify in a court of law I will bet...

My money is backing you. Another mysterious death looms on the horizon.


28 posted on 08/10/2012 3:32:27 AM PDT by DaveA37
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29 posted on 08/10/2012 4:41:13 AM PDT by PMAS
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To: virgil

He is also right. Our government’s policy with Mexico is to prevent a Hugo Chavez from taking power.


30 posted on 08/10/2012 5:59:31 AM PDT by LadyEleanor
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To: Fledermaus
does anyone think that if the AZ Rep Gibbons was a Republican the media would be sympathetic?

Gabrielle Giffords?

31 posted on 08/10/2012 6:08:00 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: LadyEleanor
Fast and Furious Is Not What You Think

No, actually it's much much worse.

Nevertheless, dead is dead.

32 posted on 08/10/2012 6:10:56 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Yes.


33 posted on 08/10/2012 1:33:38 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Yes.


34 posted on 08/10/2012 1:33:38 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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To: LadyEleanor

BTT


35 posted on 08/12/2012 7:40:56 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Yep its COINTELLPRO...


36 posted on 08/12/2012 9:29:11 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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