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Democratic platform draft language on marriage equality, ENDA revealed
LGBTQ Nation / The Washington Blade ^ | August 9, 2012 | Chris Johnson

Posted on 08/09/2012 9:03:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The draft language in the Democratic Party platform endorsing marriage equality has been revealed and shown to say “we support marriage equality” is set to become a tenet of the party’s beliefs.

In addition to endorsing marriage equality, the language also calls for repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act and urges passage of DOMA repeal legislation known as the Respect for Marriage Act. Notably, the language explicitly backs religious freedom for marriage, saying religions should “decide how to administer marriage as a religious sacrament without government interference.”

Buzzfeed was first to make the language public ahead of the scheduled meeting of the full platform committee in Detroit. The Washington Blade confirmed the language is accurate through two sources familiar with the drafting process.

The full language reads:

“We support the right of all families to have equal respect, responsibilities, and protections under the law. We support marriage equality and support the movement to secure equal treatment under law for same-sex couples. We also support the freedom of churches and religious entities to decide how to administer marriage as a religious sacrament without government interference.”

“We oppose discriminatory federal and state constitutional amendments and other attempts to deny equal protection of the laws to committed same-sex couples who seek the same respect and responsibilities as other married couples. We support the full repeal of the so-called Defense of Marriage Act and the passage of the Respect for Marriage Act.”

This weekend in Detroit, the full platform committee will discuss the draft platform and have the opportunity to submit proposed amendments, which need to be approved by a majority of the committee voting and present. The platform will then be presented to convention delegates Charlotte, N.C., for the Democratic National Convention.

Chad Griffin, president of the Human Rights Campaign, urged the committee to adopt the plank pertaining to marriage equality as part of the Democratic platform.

“Marriage equality has quickly become a mainstream American value and it’s a sign of the times that the Democratic Party has included language affirming the ability of gays and lesbians to marry in its draft platform,” Griffin said. “We encourage the Platform Committee and the delegates to the convention to adopt this strong statement that all loving and committed American families deserve equal treatment.”

Additional LGBT platform draft language has been revealed stating the Democratic Party’s commitment to passage of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. The language also touts previous accomplishments, such as “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” repeal and passage of the hate crimes protections law.

As with the marriage language, the additional LGBT language was first reported by Buzzfeed. The Washington Blade confirmed with a source familiar with the platform drafting process that the language is accurate.

“We know that putting America back to work is job one, and we are committed to ensuring Americans do not face employment discrimination. We support the Employment Non-Discrimination Act because people should not be fired based on their sexual orientation or gender identity.”

“President Obama and the Democratic Party are committed to ensuring all Americans are treated fairly. This administration hosted the first-ever White House Conference on Bullying Prevention and we must continue our work to prevent vicious bullying of young people and support LGBT youth. The President’s record, from ending ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ in full cooperation with our military leadership, to passing the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, to ensuring same-sex couples can visit each other in the hospital, reflects Democrats’ belief that all Americans deserve the same chance to pursue happiness, earn a living, be safe in their communities, serve their country, and take care of the ones they love.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012dncplatform; 2012issues; bho2012; democrats; dnc2012; doma; gaymarriage; gaystapo; gayvote; godgap; homofascists; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; kenyanbornmuzzie; obama; pedophiles; religiousleft; samesexmarriage; sodomhusseinobama; swrdswllwngsdshw
Mrs. Romney needs to head to the drapery store.
1 posted on 08/09/2012 9:04:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well here’s the problem, and it’s a big one. The only people that care are those that were going to vote Romney anyway. This just isn’t going to make any difference.

When I was a Prosecutor, the key in trying any case is to think as the other side thinks. Well . . . those that are not us just don’t care and the polls are rocketing in their direction on this issue. While this is disgusting, to be sure, at the end of the day, it just doesn’t matter and won’t in the election. Any base energy will be a wash.


2 posted on 08/09/2012 9:11:04 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Marriage equality has quickly become a mainstream American value”

Dems continue their rush to get a seat on the Titanic.


3 posted on 08/09/2012 9:20:45 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Huskrrrr

They sure do!


4 posted on 08/09/2012 9:22:50 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ENDA should actually stand for Ending National Decency Act.


5 posted on 08/09/2012 9:37:12 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: liberalism is suicide

Just Lost North Carolina


6 posted on 08/09/2012 9:45:23 PM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: Huskrrrr

Hopefully, they sink!!!

There is marriage equality the Democrats are so stupid (or evil)-—there is no special rights for Sodomites.

There is a reason why words have meaning and the Marxists pursue destruction of the language-—It is to control the ideas and perceptions of people as “Good Germans” knew you could do in the 1800’s.

Control words-—you control thought. (Association evokes “feelings”).

It is why we even talk about homosexual “marriage” which is an oxymoron and silly, ugly concept—an impossibility-—insane—irrational concept for over 3000 years.

So, after the Pavlovian conditioning-—and association-—the cognitive dissonance will create insane law——there is ALREADY marriage equality-—all males and females have the same right to marry the opposite sex. And each can only marry one-—equality of the sexes!!! even in the US.

It also is the best guarantee of children being raised by their biological parents-—their Natural Right and which is proven best for their general welfare. The government has an interest to protect the Rights of Babies—although they haven’t.

Marriage is defined and the Marxists have no right to change definitions that were in our legal dictionary for centuries when they are well-reasoned and determine the best welfare for nurturing children and for people to do their duty which is to raise and care for their biological offspring.

That Duty is the most fundamental of all duties-—to care for your own offspring-—and not be able to sell them to artificial homes like they are trinkets and inhuman==not needing a loving mother and father to develop in a natural way—the way Designed by nature’s God.

And the major issue-—Natural Law Theory says NONSENSE to sodomy-—it is a Vice and unnatural——and Just Laws preclude promoting Vice. Can’t do it in a country ruled by Laws where there is a Higher Power than just man-made Hitler-like laws.

The entire world was rife with homosexuality which always included rampant pederasty, since it is learned and modeled—and it took Christianity to rid the world of those evil practices along with slavery and women having no worth—because they were just breeders. Even in those pederastic societies—they STILL HAD MARRIAGE as WE KNOW IT—they just thought it was moral for men to have recreation with other men and boys—it was Good—their Worldview much like it still is in Afghanistan. We can not warp the minds of our young boys like the worldview of the Afghani boys who love sodomy— by recreating Greek and Afghani lifestyles with force of law which is really sick and destroys the freedom of religious thought since children will be forced to see homosexuality modeled and normalized like it was in Ancient times in Greece.
Forcing a Vice with Law is unconstitutional and Fascist.

Homosexual “marriage” is irrational and immoral. Reason is the fundamental, necessary component of all laws, along with Rights derived from God and the Laws of Nature (Moral Law), not Barney Frank or Satan.


7 posted on 08/09/2012 9:51:58 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Then why has same-sex marriage NEVER won a ballot initiative? They couldn’t even win in California until the state supreme court stepped in, same for Iowa. Only through government fiat has homosexual marriage been adopted. Were you around last week when MILLIONS of people flooded Chick-fil-A restaurants to show their support?


8 posted on 08/09/2012 9:51:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wonder if this plank will drive some blacks away from the Demoncrats?


9 posted on 08/09/2012 10:40:03 PM PDT by garjog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s political poison. They think calling it candy will make it so. Let them take it.


10 posted on 08/09/2012 10:48:11 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We don’t endorse any form of moral degredation and perversion, period.

Simple platform statement.


11 posted on 08/09/2012 11:02:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: liberalism is suicide

If I were the dems I’d watch my rear ENDA.


12 posted on 08/09/2012 11:03:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If anything let’s use the opportunity to end special protections based on who someone has sex with. What is genuinely unfair is that 98% of people who have sex with a certain other gender get no special protections under the law as a class of person. The dems passed Obama are for the 10% of people without care, how about showing the hypocrisy at work here against the 98% of heterosexuals?


13 posted on 08/09/2012 11:05:59 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: RIghtwardHo
The only people that care are those that were going to vote Romney anyway. This just isn’t going to make any difference.

There are a bunch of tweeners and leaners who'll be turned off in States like, oh, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin ....

14 posted on 08/10/2012 1:26:43 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: savagesusie; little jeremiah
It is why we even talk about homosexual “marriage” which is an oxymoron and silly, ugly concept—an impossibility-—insane—irrational concept for over 3000 years.

For the Dems, it's about homosexual PAC and campaign money. They're rich, they splurge, they count. I hope the Dems do everything they can to identify themselves with open, unapologetic, unabashed Sodomism. Because this is gonna hurt.

15 posted on 08/10/2012 1:32:36 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
M+M = Fail
F + F = Fail
 
"I KNOW BUT ONE CODE OF MORALITY FOR MEN WHETHER ACTING SINGLY OR COLLECTIVELY"
--Thomas Jefferson
 
Got Natural Law?
 
 
Sex, Evolution and Behavior
By Martin Daly and Margo Wilson
 
 
Got Socio-Biological Fitness?
 
 "Gay" penguins don't - not even in the San Francisco zoo
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=San+Francisco+gay+penguins
 
FAIL.

16 posted on 08/10/2012 2:40:38 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: savagesusie

There is a reason why...

 

 

"According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization"...
 
It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.... "
 
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2095202/posts

 

 

 

Dn't need n Weatherman t see which waybama's wind

blws.

 

"Behind the Violence, Says Jane Alpert, Was Sex"

--November 09, 1981--
"The leaders of the Weather Underground, she believes, followed a similar pattern of constantly shifting sexual alliances..."

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20080637,00.html

"He [Bill Ayers] also writes about the Weathermen's sexual experimentation as they tried to 'smash monogamy.' The Weathermen were 'an army of lovers,' he says, and describes having had different sexual partners, including his best male friend."

Source: New York Times, September 11, 2001: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

"...the Weathermen, when not engaged in group sex, committed such revolutionary acts as parading with a Viet Cong flag through a local park on Independence Day and spray-painting the walls of a high school with the slogans, "Off the Pigs," "Viet Cong Will Win," and "F#$k U.S. Imperialism."..."

Campus Wars: The Peace Movement At American State Universities in the Vietnam Era

 

"What happens next bears watching closely, as does the response of the president, ex-Speaker Pelosi, and others on the left.  Encouraged by leftists in the Democratic Party and funded by left-leaning nonprofit organizations and celebrity contributors, Occupy Wall Street may in time morph into something resembling the radical factions of the late 1960s and 1970s."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/10/predicting_the_weatherman.html

The Osawatomie Coincidence

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2818309/posts


17 posted on 08/10/2012 2:46:23 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Here’s how to reverse those polls:

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/204/81-Words

The above radio show discusses how in 1973, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) declared that homosexuality was not a disease simply by changing the 81-word definition of sexual deviance in its own reference manual.

It’s the truth from liberals. It shows that homosexuality was removed for political and not scientific reasons. This is step one.

Step two is to simply show that it is a deviancy and most likely a mental disorder across a spectrum. It can be treated successfully and has been.


18 posted on 08/10/2012 3:42:31 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: savagesusie; sickoflibs; NFHale; stephenjohnbanker
It is why we even talk about homosexual “marriage” which is an oxymoron and silly, ugly concept—an impossibility-—insane—irrational concept for over 3000 years.

And the major issue-—Natural Law Theory says NONSENSE to sodomy-—it is a Vice and unnatural——and Just Laws preclude promoting Vice. Can’t do it in a country ruled by Laws where there is a Higher Power than just man-made Hitler-like laws.

beware this flanking move to make buttsex appear to be 'family' friendly and dupe the old time southern democrats into believing that 'Marriage' is actually being protected, while the pervs get a social and monetary 'equality'...

a careful reading of their 'law' will prolly show that by tweaking a couple words, it will easily morph from 'protecting' [as this article and *plank* implies] religion, to outright banning religion where marriage is concerned...any side businesses will be shuttered everytime queers dont like the cake or pics, much less if someone refuses service...

these same darwin/evolutionists that claim moral superiority to us unenlightened neandrathals, seem to have a disconnect on how queers can survive evolution beyond a single generation...

that disconnect is merely the lies being re-packaged time and time again by the original liar and murderer, cloaked in the temporal 'feel good' of our base instincts...

19 posted on 08/10/2012 5:03:56 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Incrementalism. They always start slowly, by saying that they are for religious freedom for marriage. Eventually they will take that away and force everyone to accept homosexual marriage. The next step is to gradually lower the age of consent to 12 years. Ultimately removing all age limits, as long as it is consensual. This is their main goal, to legally establish adult-child sex in society. Do not be fooled that giving them homosexual marriage will satisfy their sexual lust. They will keep pushing to remove all sexual barriers and taboos until there are no laws protecting children from homosexuals.


20 posted on 08/10/2012 5:31:37 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Meanwhile the Log Cabin Republicans are helping draft the GOP
2012 platform to advocate for the fraud of same sex marriage. and the end to DOMA.


21 posted on 08/10/2012 6:05:58 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: savagesusie

Maybe the party of perverts will draft Jerry Sandusky for
president. Oh, I forgot, he just got 100 years for doing the same thing to little boys the democrats want to make legal.


22 posted on 08/10/2012 6:07:44 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: savagesusie

Thank you for these excellent points.


23 posted on 08/10/2012 6:19:14 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: scooby321
Just Lost North Carolina

Every state that had the freedom to vote on the issue voted it down easily (35?). We know when it comes to this issue, all those states are on our side. Let's hope they're as serious as we are about this crap.

People have been forced to remain silent (or pretend to be "tolerant") when it comes to their real feelings about this through left wing intimidation, but once they're in the voting booth, they're free to express their real beliefs without fear of radical retaliation .

The Chic Fil A thing opened a lot of eyes. Those who secretly don't agree with homosexual sodomy realized they're not alone. Millions and millions of other normal of people agree with them. That's why I think the left is being so bold. They know they only have a little time left. People are starting to realize political correctness is nothing more than political oppression.

24 posted on 08/10/2012 6:43:50 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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Support Free Republic.

25 posted on 08/10/2012 6:47:18 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: garjog

I know for a fact it has and its caused many of their Pastors to come out against Obama. The number of people who follow these pastors in Texas and Louisiana is quite large. There are sizeable Black Church communities in both Houston and Dallas/Ft. Worth areas and their pastors have publicly expressed outrage over this very issue and they have a large following. I don’t know about the rest of the “South” but the Texas Black community is really rather complex and their “Churched” communities, both rural and urban, intentionally maintain a very low profile and are rather tight nit. Having spoken with many of them it seems they maintain this position because they tend to be the more successful members of the overall Black population. The company I work for recruits heavily from the “Churched” community.


26 posted on 08/10/2012 6:50:25 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We also support the freedom of churches and religious entities to decide how to administer marriage as a religious sacrament without government interference.”

Translation: We don't care how you do it, but you WILL have homo marriages in your church. Stuff your Bible. How do you like us now, bitter clingers?

27 posted on 08/10/2012 7:55:12 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is like the whole BS language of “marriage equality”, “domestic violence”, “child support”, etc... all are programs to put punitive taxes on every one, worse than, say, the way Iran is embargoed or China is done in for dumping on us.

This country is heading for the craphole and the only real thing we might have is the Tparty.

Sad thing is I don’t expect ROmney to have the guts to rescind any executive orders, just like Bush never vetoed any leftist legislation. THey are going to appease the terrorists.


28 posted on 08/10/2012 8:13:28 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

DO THEY SUPPORT POLYGAMY? That is equlity too or is it that they support their kind of marriage.

Shame we have a nich of cowards on our side, whether that be the elitist GOP, talk radio or pundits like Hannity.

It’s time they dealt with this issue instead of being silent all the frigging time.

Anyone one of us o ere, on ur side who refuses to speak up in public to friends, family etc ae just as guilty in helping the homostapo.


29 posted on 08/10/2012 8:26:12 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Huskrrrr

equality means all sorts of marriage so the question is for them is”do you support marriage equality for polygamy, for cousins, for underage, for any kind of marriage?”

If they say no then they need to be called out on this.

SO GOP, TALK RADIO GET SOME BALLS AND SPEAK UP FOR FRIGGING ONCE ON YOUR COWARDLY ELITIST PATHETIC LIFE.


30 posted on 08/10/2012 8:29:09 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ecomcon

That say that but what they really mean is that the homostapo can sue anyone if one does not go with their anal fecal matter sex.

If they truly thought that this was about equality then they would let certain mormon churches and mosques marry more than one wife but of course we’ll not be hearing any of those questions as the media is on the lefts side, the GOP and most in talk radio do not want to offend their liberal pals and their homo pals so what we have left is the majority of folks who have a vote , sadly many will never hear about this, as the Dems woudl never run AD’s prclaiming their new position knowing they lost over 50% of the black and Hispanic vote and many blue coller workers.


31 posted on 08/10/2012 8:38:35 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: wagglebee

For your ping list is you have not already seen this disgrace.


32 posted on 08/10/2012 8:52:18 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

I agree!


33 posted on 08/10/2012 9:24:55 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: ecomcon

Look for churches to do the “civil diobedence” thing.


34 posted on 08/10/2012 10:08:23 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: RIghtwardHo
and the polls are rocketing in their direction on this issue.

You have been listening to much to the leftist media spin and not enough to the facts. To see that you are wrong just read about the election in North Carolina (site of the Rat convention) two months ago in June. Traditional marriage won with over 60% of the vote. How is this "polls rocketing in their direction?"
35 posted on 08/10/2012 10:09:08 AM PDT by fifedom
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To: RIghtwardHo

RE: Only people that care are going to vote for Obama anyway.

I disagree. A ton of yellow-dog Democrats and undecideds who get their news from alphabet media have never really paid attention to the pro-gay extremist nonsense. If you could make the whole country look at some of the photos of the two Obama’s mouth-kissing same-genders, my liberal-to-moderate” family members would lose their enthusiasm for Dems faster than you can say “pervert.”


36 posted on 08/10/2012 10:21:32 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Gilbo_3

“these same darwin/evolutionists that claim moral superiority to us unenlightened neandrathals, seem to have a disconnect on how queers can survive evolution beyond a single generation...

that disconnect is merely the lies being re-packaged time and time again by the original liar and murderer, cloaked in the temporal ‘feel good’ of our base instincts... “

yep!


37 posted on 08/10/2012 10:53:53 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: scooby321

Disagree. It’s all in the packaging and the support of the Rancid Media. Who can be against “equality”? You, you dirty racist?!


38 posted on 08/10/2012 11:59:30 AM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
State Dinner guests have certainly changed since Obama was elected...

Jerome Fallon and Chad Griffin arriving for the White House State Dinner

DC's newst gay power couple - Chad Griffin and Jerome Fallon

HRC President Joe Solmonese with board member Barry Karas

39 posted on 08/10/2012 12:17:55 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The chicken was good. First time ever in a Chick-fil-A joint. I will be going back.


40 posted on 08/10/2012 2:26:37 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The chicken was good. First time ever in a Chick-fil-A joint. I will be going back.


41 posted on 08/10/2012 2:27:18 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: Flavious_Maximus
They will keep pushing to remove all sexual barriers and taboos until there are no laws protecting children from homosexuals.

You will see a lot of violence then.

42 posted on 08/10/2012 2:34:13 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: NKP_Vet

Just read where there is now pressure to lower the age of consent for boys for anal sex-—in Canada where they made homosexual marriage legal.

They now want equality of the sexes-—instead of raising the age of consent for the girls they want to lower the consent for boys to age 14. They will get it down to 12 eventually-—and like in the book The Brave New World-—and Herbert Marcuse’s ideas of utopian society-—where there is no restrictions on any type of sex acts for any age.

I firmly believe that the group trying to destroy Christian Ethics and God—the Soros-Atheist/Marxist type—really want this type of world for us. They want the orgies with children-—or whatever other base urge they have-—and no “restrictions” by evil religions.

A culture rampant with pederasty-———

Even Ancient philosophy condemned the pursuit of endless pleasures as evil-In Xenophon’s Memorabilia:

Xenophon: “Heracles! What a terrible power you ascribe to a kiss!”

Socrates: “You fool! ,,,I council you, Xenophon, whenever you see someone beautiful, to flee without looking back!” (these are men kissing boys/young beautiful men).

Then in “The Apology of Socrates to the Jury” (Xenophon)

Socrates: “Do you know anyone who is less enslaved to the desires of the body than I? And do you know any human being who is more free than I—I who accepts from no one either gifts or wages? And whom would you be likely to believe more just than the one so well adapted to his present possessions as not to need in addition any of the possessions of others? ...And while others porcure delight from the market place at great cost, I contrive without expense, delights from the soul more pleasant than those.”

My point is that perverse, immorality has always existed-—but in the Western tradition—starting as early with a very pederastic society—and all were because women had little worth as companions and were relegated to breeding and raising offspring in earliest ages-—where men got all their companionship and “recreation” from other men and especially boys.

That whole paradigm evolved-—through the stoics who eschewed hedonistic acts and led to the profound idea of Virtue and Justice-—which became enshrined in Christianity-—along with Charity and Faith and Hope.

This idea that Herbert Marcuse wants legitimized, “hedonism”-—was thought evil, even by Socrates.

Hedonism is what homosexuality is all about-—and the erasing of Christianity from Western Civilization-—the ideology/theology which put the nasty, evil acts of sodomy (and pederasty) in the closet. If homosexuality is normalized like in the Greek society, then we will no longer be able to raise our children with a Christian paradigm like the US did for hundreds of years on this continent—the most Christian of all countries. It is almost impossible to fight the mainstream—and the Laws that force an ideology of “Vice is Good”.

It ends up being an unjust, evil place—because it promotes evil, of course. Christians will be marginalized and hiding in caves. We will be back to the Worldview of Ancient Greece-—(and present day Afghanistan).

That is REAL progress/sarc. (Although the Ancient Greeks Masters were so much more profound thinkers than all Leftists put together—some of the most irrational—sick thinkers-—whose ideology always leads to massive killings of even babies.


43 posted on 08/10/2012 2:58:14 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: kcvl

Ugly, ugly group of “men” who debase their own bodies and mock God’s design.

They are mentally ill—(should still be classified as such, like it was for hundreds of years) with such a warped view of the Laws of Nature-—the very Foundation of American Law-—and should be scorned, instead of lauded, by that sodomite in the White House who must worship Satan.

The White House will have to be fumigated again like it was when the gross Clintons inhabited the place.


44 posted on 08/10/2012 3:03:26 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: StonyBurk

Plan B:

http://www.LivingInThePhilippines.com


45 posted on 08/10/2012 3:40:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Gilbo_3

You are so correct.

This whole “homosexual movement in the US” was founded by the Communist Harry Hay, himself sodomized as a boy (learned Vice).

It is a Satanic idea-—the Homosexual movement is the continued attack on God and Christianity particularly. The US, being the most Christian nation, in the 18th-21st centuries, is the main target of the pederasts.

By forcing the acceptance of “Sodomy is Good”-—by Civil Unions—or Marriage —or whatever they want to call sodomizing others-—will destroy the Christian paradigm in the next generation.

It is all about forcing the images of homosexuals and their acts on really young children—in the formative ages-—so that it is normalized and their Worldview will be changed back to that of Ancient Greece where homosexuality was glorified along with pederasty—since it is learned and modeled, or like the current Afghani boys who think it is cool to sodomize a harem of boys.

The Political Correctness forced in the Public Square and Schools/Universities (concept of Mao) makes it “evil” to call evil, evil. (No freedom of speech in the truest-Constitutional Sense).

That shuts the parents up—the ones who can undo the conditioning of the children—by schools and TV-—but the images/peers/Marxist teachers have much more of their attention and time now adays since Dewey and his “mass indoctrination” centers opened in the 30’s.


46 posted on 08/10/2012 3:44:57 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you consider yourself any kind of a Christian and/or any kind of a conservative, you cannot support this new Democrat party. Whatever you think of Romney, you have to vote for him, even if you have to hold your nose to do so!


47 posted on 08/10/2012 6:58:17 PM PDT by guitarist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you consider yourself any kind of a Christian and/or any kind of a conservative, you cannot support this new Democrat party. Whatever you think of Romney, you have to vote for him, even if you have to hold your nose to do so!


48 posted on 08/10/2012 6:58:17 PM PDT by guitarist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You should let us know when you're posting a videolink.

People on dialup get a kink in their link (webpage streams Java scripts).

49 posted on 08/11/2012 3:59:52 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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