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Uncivilized Sport
Townhall.com ^ | August 10, 2012 | Linda Chavez

Posted on 08/10/2012 7:15:46 AM PDT by Kaslin

As an American, I am proud of Olympic Gold medalist Claressa Shields' feat in women's boxing at the Olympics -- but as a woman who has suffered traumatic brain injury, I am deeply concerned that her win will encourage other young women to pursue this dangerous, potentially life-altering sport.

There is no question that repeated blows to the head cause changes in the brain -- even when the head is protected by gear meant to soften the blows. The NFL has come under fire recently because of the link between football-incurred concussions and greatly increased risk of Alzheimer's and other cognitive and memory problems.

The high-profile suicide of former linebacker Junior Seau has once again focused attention on the issue; his family has donated his brain for study to see if his injuries may have played a role in his mental deterioration. The league currently faces lawsuits from more than 2000 former players who believe their injuries have caused irreversible brain damage. A 2009 NFL study showed Alzheimer's was much more likely to occur among former pro-football players than in the general population. Players 30-49 years old had an early Azheimer's rate almost 20 times greater than men in the general population.

I sympathize with those players. In 2003, I took a bad fall, slamming the back of my head to the floor and losing consciousness briefly. Although early MRIs showed no sign of damage, a recent brain scan showed that one side of my frontal lobe had shrunk slightly. My doctors believe the changes occurred as a result of my brain slamming against the inside of my skull -- which is what happens whenever the head rapidly accelerates and then stops or reverses direction from hitting a hard object, shaking, being jerked forward in a car accident, or being hit. Once the first injury occurs, medical evidence suggests that any subsequent injuries, even minor ones, are more likely to cause severe damage.

So why is it we should celebrate encouraging young women to punch each other repeatedly, risking not just broken ribs, cuts and bruises, but serious trauma to their brains? The same, of course, can be said for men. Boxing is a brutal sport, one whose sole purpose is to hurt the opponent while avoiding being hurt yourself. Even football has other goals -- advancing a ball down the field -- which relies on passing, running, and kicking, not just brute force.

There are other reasons to oppose boxing for women. Many feminists see the decision to include women's boxing in the Olympics as a step forward in recognizing equality. These same feminists want to see women in military combat. Their ultimate goal is ignoring any differences between men and women, even when those differences are biologically rooted.

For millennia, women have played an important civilizing role in society. No society has ever existed in which women were the warriors. Males are larger, more powerful and driven by testosterone to be more aggressive than females. Women are life givers -- not life takers. Yes, there are exceptions. Women do commit murder -- though they are far less likely to engage in random or stranger killing than men -- and their murder rate is 10 percent that of males.

I'm sure that there are some women who could do well on the battlefield. And no doubt Shields could defeat many bigger men in the ring. But is more violence and aggressiveness something we really want to encourage in our species? Is there no evolutionary advantage in having half the population play a gentler, more nurturing role that tempers the aggressive tendencies of the other half of our species?

Whatever glory Shields and other boxers earn in the ring will be paid for by future generations of women -- and men -- who are hurt by following their example. Instead of welcoming women into boxing competition, the Olympic Committee would serve society better by eliminating the sport altogether.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: femaleboxing; feminism; londonolympics; olympics; savethemales; sports; womenboxing

1 posted on 08/10/2012 7:15:57 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Do't agree with Chavez on everything, but she nails it here.

Its a sick society that allows its women in harms way.

2 posted on 08/10/2012 7:18:58 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

We don’t “allow” anything. The women freaking INSIST.
And “mere” men are certainly not allowed to stand in a their way for any reason.


3 posted on 08/10/2012 7:25:16 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: skeeter
Linda, tell you what. You stand in front of the ring and try and stop these women.

Go ahead.

Have fun with that.

4 posted on 08/10/2012 7:31:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I love the Universe, and it loves me.)
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To: Kaslin

a perfect illustration

if a conservative doesn’t like something, they don’t do it.
if a liberal doesn’t like something they demand it be banned.


5 posted on 08/10/2012 7:36:47 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Kaslin
There is no minor league or quality cut in boxing like other sports. Almost anyone can cut a hole in a towel and step into the ring to be a tomato can for a few rounds. But for those who take the sport seriously, it demands the utmost commitment.

Good boxers, like gymnasts must be nearly perfect in form and conditioning just to compete. Serious boxers have no room in their life for almost anything else but training. The sport absorbs them entirely, man or woman. That's why you see so many boxers from difficult backgrounds, like crime and drugs. The sport takes them away from all that; it provides a path for their ambition, a a way to channel their energy into something that will bring reward and recognition.

Above all else, that's what's good about boxing.

6 posted on 08/10/2012 8:04:24 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Lazamataz

The MMA ladies make the WBA ladies look like sissies.


7 posted on 08/10/2012 8:13:14 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
Its a sick society that allows its women in harms way

Give me a break man! This is a ridiculous definition of a sick society.

It’s not like young girls are kidnapped and sold into boxing slavery! They freely choose to engage in this activity and should have the right to do so.

Life is a short and dangerous affair. We are all in harm’s way at any given instant. If you think otherwise I say you are being blissfully foolish.


8 posted on 08/10/2012 8:13:36 AM PDT by chaos_5
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To: chaos_5

Your non sequitors have failed to convince me. I’ll stick by my interpretation.


9 posted on 08/10/2012 8:18:34 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
You are certainly entitled to your opinion and interpolations but it makes little sense to me when I take your words literally and expand the idea outside of this particular context (boxing).

Just think about how dangerous the freeways are. Would you say it’s a sick society that lets women drive?

How about rock climbing, or skydiving, or anything like that. Tones of activities carry the very real risk of death or injury.

The idea that we must be a sick society because women are allowed to put themselves in harm’s way just doesn’t compute. Sorry, I think it’s more of an indicating of sick society when we are willing to give up freedoms and liberties because we insist in living in fear and want more laws to protect us from ourselves. But, that’s just my opinion.


10 posted on 08/10/2012 8:33:14 AM PDT by chaos_5
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To: chaos_5

I’m basing my perspective upon 5000 years of recorded human history. Its my opinion, however unpopular these days, and I fully understand many disagree.


11 posted on 08/10/2012 8:36:49 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Kaslin

It’s all about eyeballs watching the ads on the tv screen. Many men are turned on by women’s hitting one another, so they watch.


12 posted on 08/10/2012 8:46:22 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If you can't say anything nice, have some more wine.)
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To: skeeter

Well I do see where you are coming from and I don’t completely disagree. For me, its women in combat – that’s where I draw the line and for the same reasons you stated.


13 posted on 08/10/2012 8:55:31 AM PDT by chaos_5
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To: skeeter; chaos_5
Its a sick society that allows its women in harms way.

Yes, let's go back to the days when women were not allowed to drive because it was thought they could not handle a automobile, let's go back to the early Olympics when the only 3 women's sports were badminton, croquete and tennis.

I'm a male who loves strong, athletic and confident women.

14 posted on 08/10/2012 9:24:37 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1
I'm a male who loves strong, athletic and confident women.

Thats probably because you see things that aren't there and respond hysterically.

Someone's gotta take care of you.

15 posted on 08/10/2012 9:27:01 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Tax-chick
It’s all about eyeballs watching the ads on the tv screen. Many men are turned on by women’s hitting one another, so they watch.

I haven't watched any women's boxing, so I cannot say ... but I wonder: At whom are the TV ads aired during women's boxing aimed? One can often tell whether a particular ad is aimed at women or at men.

16 posted on 08/10/2012 9:31:23 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: trailhkr1
...let's go back to the days when women ...

I'm a male ...

Interesting choice of words ... very interesting. I usually see that terminology used by radical, man-hating, lesbian feminists.

17 posted on 08/10/2012 9:35:26 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard; skeeter
Interesting choice of words ... very interesting. I usually see that terminology used by radical, man-hating, lesbian feminists

Nope, red blooded 27 year old American male, with a gf of almost 3 years. Just not afraid of confident, ambitious, strong, athletic women as some.

18 posted on 08/10/2012 9:41:11 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: chaos_5
For me, its women in combat – that’s where I draw the line and for the same reasons you stated.

Thats how I view boxing, as well. Combat. I'm not sure how my comments were extrapolated to cover driving, etc.

I'm no troglodyte:)

19 posted on 08/10/2012 9:47:46 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
not sure how my comments were extrapolated to cover driving, etc.

I was bored and feeling argumentative. :o)
20 posted on 08/10/2012 9:55:02 AM PDT by chaos_5
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To: trailhkr1
with a gf of almost 3 years.

Good friend? Glitch factor?

Gold finger?

21 posted on 08/10/2012 9:56:43 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: trailhkr1
< Shrug > ... and yet the terminology remains ... women referenced by terminology associated with people, men referenced by terminology associated with animals.

I love freedom of speech.

22 posted on 08/10/2012 9:57:35 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Kaslin

Did Junior Seau leave a note? How do we know if he wasn’t depressed because of the failure of his marriage and loss of his children?


23 posted on 08/10/2012 10:16:12 AM PDT by stellaluna
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To: Kaslin

I find it interesting that such a liberal article came from townhall.


24 posted on 08/10/2012 10:56:45 AM PDT by Ophiucus
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To: ArrogantBustard
At whom are the TV ads aired during women's boxing aimed?

I don't know. Ads during "Bridezillas" are for hair-care products, contraceptives, and law firms trolling for class-action plaintiffs against contraceptive manufacturers.

25 posted on 08/10/2012 1:42:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you can't say anything nice, have some more wine.)
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To: Tax-chick
Ads during "Bridezillas" are aimed at men.

Obviously.

;'}

And how often have we seen yesterday's new wonder drug become today's class action lawsuit?

26 posted on 08/10/2012 2:05:31 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

If more men watched “Bridezillas,” they might avoid marrying a sociopath just because she’s easy, and then there would be fewer cranky misogynists in the world.


27 posted on 08/10/2012 2:09:11 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you can't say anything nice, have some more wine.)
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To: skeeter

fightinh is fun an its a skill that might save your life someday


28 posted on 08/10/2012 2:15:57 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: Tax-chick
I watched "Bridezillas" (or perhaps some other, similar, show) one time. Once was enough.

I included a special thought of thankgiving for Mrs. Bustard in evening prayer that day.

On occasion, I hear men complaining of bitchy their wives are, or how their wives won't "let" them do anything, or ...

and I sometimes ask "Why did you marry her?"

Sometimes they admit to overlooking it.

Sometimes they swear she turned psycho after the wedding.

29 posted on 08/10/2012 2:29:21 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

My husband sometimes tries to say I won’t let him do something, but then I pitch a carefully modulated Judi Dench fit, because all I ever say about whatever he wants to do is, “Fine, get it on the calendar so I can plan around it.” Except when he said he wanted to sail all day on the day we’re moving to the lake house in September ... for that, I said, “Fine, I’ll just have Bill drive your truck,” which produced a quick change of plan.

I saw one episode of “Bridezillas” earlier this year when the baby and I were visiting my parents, but I can see how it could become addictive watching people who are that crazy. I wonder if it’s on Netflix ...


30 posted on 08/10/2012 2:39:37 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you can't say anything nice, have some more wine.)
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To: skeeter

I don’t think we should stop women or anyone else doing what they want as long as it doesn’t harm anyone else (who isn’t a consenting adult who fully understands the risks anyway).


31 posted on 08/10/2012 4:27:03 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: skeeter

“Its a sick society that allows its women in harms way.”

Try to block my wife of 44 years from doing something she sets her mind on.

—sports, exercize
—target shooting

Had she taken to boxing, she might have been good when young.

In case you missed it over the last 40 years, women are liberated; liberal ones and conservative ones alike.

Cops, fireighters, judges, physicians, etc. Boxers if they like.


32 posted on 08/10/2012 5:01:17 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Read the rest of the thread.

I guess I should've been clearer - the context was women fighting, and I don't care what kind of PC crap the feminists ladle out I'll never be comfortable with women fighting, for real or for sport.

33 posted on 08/10/2012 7:40:08 PM PDT by skeeter
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