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Connecticut town sued for allegedly trying to ‘keep out’ black residents [which it never did]
New York Daily News ^ | August 7, 2012 | Victoria Cavaliere

Posted on 08/10/2012 11:15:41 AM PDT by grundle

A small Connecticut town is being sued for allegedly discriminating against minorities in an effort to keep its black population "so low that it does not register above zero percent," according to a federal complaint.

The town of Winchester "systematically and unlawfully" works to keep out African-American families by denying access to federal housing vouchers known as Section 8, according to a lawsuit brought by the Connecticut Fair Housing Center and plaintiff Crystal Carter.

"We are challenging a pattern of denying minorities fair access to housing," said Greg Kirschner, staff attorney for the Connecticut Fair Housing Center .

Carter, a single mom of six children, joined the lawsuit after she was allegedly told by the Winchester Housing Authority (WHA) that she was ineligible to apply for Section 8 housing in the town because she was not already a resident.

The WHA also told Carter "that Winchester was not on a 'bus line,' there were no real jobs there, and it was in the 'woods,'" Courthouse News Service reported.

According to census data, 94.4 percent of Winchester's 11,000 residents are white and 4.5 percent are Hispanic. The number of African-American residents is “statistically zero,” according to the complaint.

The lawsuit claims the WHA is keeping minorities out by enforcing a "residency requirement" for those wishing to apply for Section 8 vouchers in its 17 communities.

Kirschner says the practice violates Section 8 guidelines.

"These requirements are unlawful because in communities with populations that are disproportionately white and or/non-Hispanic they perpetuate segregation by excluding minority applicants who live outside those communities from obtaining housing here," the lawsuit states.

Officials at the WHA could not be reached for comment. The agency's website said its mission is to "provide, without any type of discrimination; decent, safe, affordable housing and a sustainable living environment."

The Connecticut Fair Housing Center filed the lawsuit last week and is seeking both a policy change and punitive damages.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: section8; winchester
The accusation of racism is bogus. The town never did anything to try to keep out black people who spent their own money on housing. It's only the section 8 people that the town tried to keep out - and section 8 is available to people of all races, not just black ones. And how does an unmarried woman end up with six children?
1 posted on 08/10/2012 11:15:45 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle
This is all part of the Holder/Ubama plan to raise the crime rate of non-Eric Holder's people to the same rate as Eric Holder's people.

It's not fair that Eric Holder's people commit so many crimes and non-Eric Holder's people don't.

2 posted on 08/10/2012 11:19:45 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: grundle
Ah. I see. You don't want Section 8 ghetto homes in your area?

Then you a rasist.

 

 

3 posted on 08/10/2012 11:21:51 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: grundle
“We are challenging a pattern of denying minorities fair access to housing,"

What a load of BS. So, if I read this right, if you don’t let a bunch of “poor” people live in subsidized housing then you are discrimination. BSBSBSBS!!! They can pay rent just like the rest of us. I’m so sick of all these handouts. It pisses me off even more since my own apartment complex started taking section 8 and the next thing you know… OK, let me put it like this, there is now a no $hi7 crazy crack head lady living in the apartment just down the hall! Their thug gangbanger friends come around at all hours and cars windows are getting smashed on the street. Am I racist for pointing this out, I think not! I wouldn’t blame any community for trying to block the abomination that follows section 8 housing.
4 posted on 08/10/2012 11:26:05 AM PDT by chaos_5
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To: grundle
From the Wikipedia article on Winchester, CT: "The racial makeup of the town was 94.44% White, 1.24% African American, 0.23% Native American, 0.93% Asian, 0.01% Pacific Islander, 1.69% from other races, and 1.46% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 3.17% of the population."
5 posted on 08/10/2012 11:26:21 AM PDT by matt04
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To: grundle
According to census data, 94.4 percent of Winchester's 11,000 residents are white and 4.5 percent are Hispanic. The number of African-American residents is “statistically zero,” according to the complaint.

According to the US Census Bureau, my county in Georgia is 96% white, 1% black, and 3% other (Mexicans, illegal or otherwise - mostly illegal). We still have Lyndon Johnson's community public housing homes in about 4 places in the county. We also have a few thousand rental trailers. Blacks are welcomed in any of them.

They will find, however, that the generational white trash (from LBJs years) have infested all the good spots - public housing, GONE or saved for daughter or grand daughters, etc......trailers?

Good ole boys and their pregnant and young mother live-ins on EBT, EITC, TANF, WICs, Section 8, Obama phone, utilities assistance, etc. They're a real catch around here - come with all the fixin's and you don't have to marry them cuz they might lose some benefits.. all you gotta do is take them to Walmart and wait outside in your new pickup truck. They mostly drive around with their "Proud North Georgia Democrat" stickers on their vehicles.

6 posted on 08/10/2012 11:26:59 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: grundle
If I didn't have this picture in my mind's eye, one of a quaint NE village filled with sanctimonious, insufferable liberals, I might feel bad for them

As someone who got to experience the joys of Section 8 diversity as a young husband and father, all I can muster is welcome to the party, jerks!

7 posted on 08/10/2012 11:30:27 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I like your perspective on this issue! Welcome to the party indeed!!


8 posted on 08/10/2012 11:32:29 AM PDT by chaos_5
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To: grundle

The Connecticut Fair Housing Center? Let me guess it's not about housing or fairness, but spreading the ghetto to as far as possible outside the city.

9 posted on 08/10/2012 11:32:42 AM PDT by matt04
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To: Gaffer

Ge Gaffer. if I were that unhappy with my neighbors, I would find another place to live.

By the way Section 8 Housing is todays version of the 50’s era blockbusting.

I can guarantee when it comes it comes with break-ins, drugs and more section 8 as neighbors do just as I advised Gaffer. They move out and turn the community over to the Blockbusters.


10 posted on 08/10/2012 11:33:32 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: chaos_5

Here is a fun challenge. If you are black and drive a beater, and live in the Seattle area, pile a bunch of buddies into your car and drive to the Clyde hill area.

Once you get off the freeway, set your stop watch and then just drive around. See how long it takes before you get pulled over. ;)

BTW, I’m white and I was pulled over in my daughter’s beater about 12 years ago. The offense: my month tab was where my year tab was supposed to be and vice versa. No ticket of course, once the cop saw who I was. :-)


11 posted on 08/10/2012 11:33:55 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: matt04

AMEN!!!!
(Yes I’m shouting)


12 posted on 08/10/2012 11:36:32 AM PDT by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: grundle
The agency's website said its mission is to "provide, without any type of discrimination; decent, safe, affordable housing and a sustainable living environment."

How can any location provide decent, safe, affordable housing in an area that cannot discriminate against people whose track record is not decent, nor able to afford anything without taxpayer assistance? How can a single mother of six keep her town safe from her children when they become teenagers?

13 posted on 08/10/2012 11:40:28 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: Venturer

They are still outnumbered here by at least 2 to 1 according to election results (I worked the polls) life is good here if you don’t have to run up against these leeches everyday, and that is mostly at Walmart or Kroger...I’m not moving. It is far worse where I came from farther south.

Section 8 was implemented to remove the stigma of public housing. Mix the lowlifes in with the real taxpayers. You can spot them by the 30 year old houses that they live in that have reached a mortgage payoff and having been turned over to speculative investors collecting that Section 8 rent from the government. You can also tell by the cars they drive - hoopty’s with bald tires, Aaron’s Rents trucks showing up, etc.

As far as break-ins, they know better than that. They’ll get killed real quick up here if they try it.


14 posted on 08/10/2012 11:42:37 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Responsibility2nd
Ah. I see. You don't want Section 8 ghetto homes in your area?

According to the lawsuit, they are not preventing anyone from getting Section 8 vouchers; what they are doing is preventing anyone who does not currently live in the town from getting Section 8 vouchers to move into the town. Which, apparently, is illegal.

15 posted on 08/10/2012 11:43:35 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: chaos_5

I have friends that live in complexes that both take and don’t take Section 8.

In the non-Section 8 complex, everything is well maintained and clean, people are friendly, any porches or balconies have decent furniture and maybe a few potted plants on them, etc. The complex that takes Section 8 is the complete opposite. Trampled flower beds, trash not put in the conveniently located trash cans, roving bands of thugs, doors left open in the winter, etc. All that within a few months of taking section 8. The actual rent-payers are looking to move ASAP.


16 posted on 08/10/2012 11:43:54 AM PDT by matt04
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To: grundle

With all appropriate apologizes and patience to and from my Savior I just gotta say . . . Jesus.


17 posted on 08/10/2012 11:46:12 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Albion Wilde

Racist!
/sarc


18 posted on 08/10/2012 11:46:35 AM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04

When you only have to pay about 25% of your ‘spendable’ income (the rest of the high rent is paid by us), why do you care where you live and what it looks like? You have 75% left to spend on lotto, cigarettes and drugs (remember, you still have food stamps, WICs, EITC, and your Obamaphone)

So, you pay 25 to $100 for your crib and the rest you keeps.....trash it, you can get another. You didn’t pay anything for it.


19 posted on 08/10/2012 11:46:46 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: grundle

It’s really a plan to increase its African population and decrease its white population.

http://www.wsmv.com/story/19156283/woman-84-raped-husband-94-savagely-beaten-inside-home

The time is coming to take out the trash.


20 posted on 08/10/2012 11:49:04 AM PDT by Postman (It's time again: US out of the UN. UN out of the US. Zero to follow. Make space in Kenya!)
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To: chaos_5

I feel your pain. Same thing happened to me when I lived in
Sylvania, OH. At the time I was in my early 20s and not completely aware of what welfare housing was.
I was paying through the nose and all of a sudden, crack heads, gangs, lots of members of the ROP with their creepy
stares and submissive bundled up women were residing in the same complex. Police became very aware of this once very quiet and safe apartment complex.
I never again took my kid to the pool or to the park in the complex...It was motivation enough for me to buy my first
house in the next state to the north and away from the Toledo area.


21 posted on 08/10/2012 11:52:25 AM PDT by ebersole
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To: grundle

This article made me chuckle, as I published a conservative book that takes place in that part of the state, and the title character is black.


22 posted on 08/10/2012 11:55:45 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: grundle

LOL!
If Section 8 slobs started moving into my township the volunteer fire company would need to triple in size.


23 posted on 08/10/2012 11:56:53 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: matt04

“Quality of life” no longer applies to white Christian heterosexuals. “Freedom of association” — ditto.


24 posted on 08/10/2012 11:59:07 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: matt04
That’s exactly what I see happening! The grounds are still fairly nice since the guys who take care of it actually live there too. As for the trash and balconies, OMG it drives me nuts!!! The people below us are too lazy to go to the dumpster. They literally leave their stinking trash bags in the hall way. I’ve very seriously considered slicing open the bags and just dumping it on their door mat - as if it would do any good.

It’s time to face the facts.. We are simply going to have to move soon. I had hoped to put it off for a year but at this rate I’ll be going as soon as the lease is up.
25 posted on 08/10/2012 12:00:34 PM PDT by chaos_5
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To: grundle
Carter, a single mom of six children...

I wonder how many of the kids in that litter have already been in and out of juvey? This little town in Connecticut may be an opportune place to open a window bars and security system company, or better yet, a gun shop.

26 posted on 08/10/2012 12:00:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: grundle
And how does an unmarried woman end up with six children?

In the usual way, methinks. (I won't post my first thought on the subject.)

27 posted on 08/10/2012 12:03:04 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: grundle
The Socialist power of the State is usually where you find the enforcement arm of institutionalized racism.

Socialism as a system encourages racism, sectarian strife, a racial spoils system and gives to the government the power to enforce racism.

Here is a great article about this...

http://www.independent.org/publications/article.asp?id=359

Capitalism and the market economy encourage racial, ethnic, and religious tolerance, while supporting a plurality of diverse lifestyles and customs. Heavily regulated or socialist economies, in contrast, tend to breed intolerance and ethnic persecution. Socialism leads to low rates of economic growth, disputes over resource use, and concentrated political power-all conditions which encourage conflict rather than cooperation. Ethnic and religious minorities usually do poorly when political coercion is prevalent. Economic collapses—usually associated with interventionism—worsen the problem by unleashing the destructive psychological forces of envy and resentment, which feed prejudice and persecution.

28 posted on 08/10/2012 12:06:40 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: grundle
This about sums up the current Justice Department's attitude:


29 posted on 08/10/2012 12:32:31 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (As long a hundred of us remain alive we will never on any condition be brought under Obama's rule.)
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To: grundle

This is just more Black Ku Klux Klan style of racism

If only blacks are getting Section 8 housing....that in itself is racism.

It is not racism to prevent people who cannot afford to live in an area to buy property, or that do not have the means to upkeep rental property. It is racist and bigoted to deny people what they have worked for


30 posted on 08/10/2012 12:35:53 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Just because someone has an "R" next to their name, does not make them a Conservative)
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To: grundle
The accusation of racism is bogus. The town never did anything to try to keep out black people who spent their own money on housing. It's only the section 8 people that the town tried to keep out - and section 8 is available to people of all races, not just black ones. And how does an unmarried woman end up with six children?

It is worse than what is being portrayed. The local community will now be on the hook for education of the six children. The impact on local real estate taxes will be significant. Imagine a local tax load of $12,000 per student per year. Over thirteen years (including kindergarten) the impact will be at least $936,000 on the homeowners. This does not include transportation, school lunch programs, healthcare and other services.
31 posted on 08/10/2012 12:55:52 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
This reminds me of a joke I heard years ago. I am probably going to get slammed for telling it, but what the hell, here gos. When a Puerto Rican goes to Yankee stadium where does he sit? Section 8. Bada Bing. (Quickly Ducks)
32 posted on 08/10/2012 12:57:08 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: SeminoleCounty

No, but it is racist to give section 8 housing to white people but put up barriers to giving it to black people.

That is what is at issue here - disparate treatment in socialist hand outs to white people and socialist hand outs to black people.

Socialism once again encourages racism, and state power is once again the enforcement arm of institutionalized racism.

Black farmers used to own and work about 10% of American farm land - but the Department of Agriculture did away with that by giving preferential treatment (socialist handouts) to white farmers.

If you want to speak out against section 8 vouchers I am right there with you. If you want to defend giving it to white people and not to black people (as is alleged here) that IS racism and it should have no place in conservative ideology.


33 posted on 08/10/2012 1:13:42 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: grundle

This is easy to fix.

Simply build a prison in the town and the black population will shoot up like a rocket.


34 posted on 08/10/2012 1:13:56 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: grundle
Section 8 is for crazies and drug addicts. To say that to turn down section 8 is racist is... Well, its racist!

If there are more blacks than other groups in the government section 8 lists, its fraud. There is no medical evidence that blacks are crazier or sicker than other ethnic groups.

This is not anti-racism, this is progressivism in action, marxist lite.

35 posted on 08/10/2012 1:17:03 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: grundle

You can see similar lawsuits coming to every “whitey town” in America.

I may be mistaken about this, but is not “Section 8” something into which municipalities enter into of their own volition? That is, they cannot be forced to agree to it “from the outside” or by higher authority?

I would hope that Winchester fights this with every ounce of their resources. In all likelihood, they’ll eventually cave and let themselves be rolled by the “civil rights advocates”, but I sense this is winnable — if they are determined to fight back. It wasn’t that long ago that a similar “putsch” called “Sheff v. O’Neill” was foisted as far as it could go in the state — a drive to “regionalize” small town and city schools for the goal of “integration”. Fortunately, the good folks kept resisting and after a while, it just faded away.

This is exactly how good towns get ruined.

By the way, Winchester is NOT one of Connecticut’s “gold coast” wealthy suburbs. It’s up north on the western side of the state, an old mill town which has since lost most of its industry. A nice old working-class town.

You won’t see any suits of this nature down in the fancy communities of Greenwich, Darien, Redding, or Westport.
No, sir!


36 posted on 08/10/2012 1:44:41 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: ebersole

I grew up in Toledo...South end. Also lived on East and West ends. We also moved to the state North of Ohio:)


37 posted on 08/10/2012 6:15:01 PM PDT by Engedi
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