Skip to comments.Mormon-Catholic pairing makes for historically unique GOP ticket
Posted on 08/11/2012 11:51:20 AM PDT by NoLibZone
With the choice of devout Catholic Paul Ryan as his running mate, Mitt Romney, a Mormon, has arguably crafted the most religiously unique ticket in presidential history. Both religions have interesting precedent in presidential politics, however, with varying degrees of success.
John F. Kennedy was famously the first and only Catholic to be elected president. Less than two months before the 1960 election, JFK addressed the Greater Houston Ministerial Association in a hope to allay fears that the pope would use him as a conduit into American politics.
Mitt Romney's father, George, also a Mormon, was a serious Republican candidate for president in 1968. Most political observers believe he didn't get far enough in the process to have his Mormon faith fully examined or questioned. Perhaps facing a more determined press than in '68, Mitt's Mormonism was questioned in his first run for president. He, like JFK, felt the need to address his faith publicly and did so in December 2007.
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Oh God, give this religion thing a rest. /s
I wont be satisfied until we have a Pentecostal/Quaker ticket.
Well we’d better steel ourselves for it, because it will come nonetheless, certainly from the Chicago thugs running Obama’s campaign.
Comparing romney to JFK who didn’t initiate same sex marriage nor socialistic healthcare/abortion is just more deception for the spiritually blind. Nor was JFK a bishop in a cult!
Well, let’s re examine Obamas faith then.
Let’s take another look at sweet home Chicago
The religion thing only hurt Romney with the REPUBLICANS and Catholics. Ryan solves Both those problems.
I hope they continue to use Sununu. He’s been the most effective individual thus far reacting to the stupidity.
JFK would be considered a right wing extremest today,and the fellow had petty good tastes in women, but you are correct in saying that the Papers are out of control.
Keep chipping away at the liars, their influence is waning.
There will be a DumBO ad targeting traditionalist Christians to stay home.
A Mormon/Catholic ticket? Ha! That’s nothing.
Just wait until we elect a Black Liberation Theologist/Muslim and a mushy “Who knows what” whose “...idea of self, of family, of community, of the wider world comes straight from my religion. It’s not so much the Bible, the beatitudes, the Ten Commandments, the sacraments, or the prayers I learned. It’s the culture.”
Now that would be a truly unique ticket in the country’s history.
Pew says Biden is catholic, so in November there will be two catholics, a mormon, and a muslim on the ballot — zero protestants. This must be a first.
The Left won’t be satisfied until there is a Gaia/Wiccan ticket.
JFK was a leftist and the man who’s election destroyed America, don’t buy into this right wing myth stuff.
From unionizing government, to Vietnam, to the 1965 immigration act, JFK was the end of us.
However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Bostons WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s. In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedys blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960. In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin. After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFKs legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies. Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.
We have Romney as a Mormon and Ryan as a Catholic.
Then there is Obama:
So I guess there is a choice....
Actually Obama easily won the Catholic vote, Bishop Romney's religion is important to Evangelical Christians, not to Catholics in general, although the Catholic church calls Mormonism a non-Christian, Polytheistic religion, created by Joseph Smith.
Both religions have Popes.
They'd be hard put to out do the Mormon vitriol in FR
I would hope we can tone that down. We're not electing a Pope. we need leaders who can right the ship of state.
Like it or not, this is our ticket. Either we're with 'em (which is now us 0 or against. Anyone against is aiding & abetting the enemy.
Remember that freerepublic is a very God oriented, conservative site, something like Mormonism is going to be discussed here.
Paul Ryan’s church tells us that Mormonism is not a Christian religion, but that it poses as such, Mitt is a powerful figure and leader in that religion.
There is no way that conservatives can avoid discussing Mormonism, especially when one of their Bishops is the presidential candidate who first asked for and received permission from his Pope to run for president, JFK didn’t do that.
The Catholics, all in all, are not very conservative. Even their Bishops tend to be progressives and agitate for leftist projects. That’s why even Santorum was pro-Union and partial for moderation, at least before this last election cycle. The number of conservative Catholics is very low, and Catholics aren’t that big of a majority in the country either, especially when you consider that many are just Catholics in name only and don’t participate in their own Church services.
But that would bring out the tons of FREEPERs who keep preaching, "Keep religion out of it."
Ya know...all those THOUSANDS of FREEPERs who applied this standard to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright threads & posts...and to Obama's alleged closet Muslim status...
There weren't thousands of those kinds of comments applied to Rev. Wright or Obama the supposed current Muslim.
That standard apparently is only religiously hypocritically applied to the sacred cow of Mormonism.
Oh...for additional evidence of this type of religious hypocrisy, see the "non-reaction" of conservatives to: Remember when Romney said he wouldnt put a Muslim in the cabinet? He made his Mormonism relevant -- and when the original info ran in the Christian Science Monitor Nov. 27, 2007: A Muslim belongs in the Cabinet: Muslims are uniquely qualified to help deter Islamist threats ... when he told the CSM: " based on the numbers of American Muslims [as a percentage] in our population, I cannot see that a cabinet position would be justified.
(Yeah...like the "Mormon numbers"...being 1.7% of the population...would keep Lds out of the Cabinet or the White House...)
Romney's a hypocrite on this; Lds are hypocrites on this; and so are his supporters...
Why is Ryan's Catholicism suddenly "relevant" when we've been told countless times that Romney's Mormonism is "irrelevant?" ???
When I walk past a crazy man sitting at a street corner, I typically toss a dollar into his hat.... and I walk away.
Here’s your dollar.
You are a person of great worth to our Lord, just like Mitt is and all Mormons.
No sarcasm at all in that sentiment.
Since Christians are known for their love, I have to ask : are you a Christian?
>>The number of conservative Catholics is very low<<
Yeah, right. Maybe where you are.
There is every flavor in every religion but take a good look at the Pro-life movement. Those Catholics aren’t libs.
Catholics came out in droves to fight the HHS mandate. Just because you don’t see it on the news doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
I think Salvation has a list of Bishops who came out against Obama LONG before he personally affected Catholics.
As for, Catholics aren’t that big of a majority, according to the census our of
[In thousands (175,440 represents 175,440,000).
So where are all the people clamoring to have this “hate” posted in the Religion Forum.
And Mitt Romney's corporation tells us that Catholics are whores of Babylon.
According to the CIA world fact book, Catholics make up 23 percent of the population, while Protestants make up a little more than fifty percent. Of that 23 percent, you can expect at least half of them to not be practicing. Michael Voris did a really good program detailing just how many Catholic organizations are connected to Soros and/or are progressive, pushing an agenda. It was the Catholic leadership in the first place which hailed the health bill until they realized it went against their pro-life position.
“No but JFK was high on pain killers and XxX anything on two legs his entire adult life. Had the press not protected JFK, he would have never been a senator much less President. The same is true of Obama.”
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God is so merciful...makes me happy, I have this list of sins I battle.
We both agree don’t we, how important regular...frequent from the heart repentance and confession of our sins to God are for the life of our soul? To add, believe it or not, some day...Heaven says “soon”, all Christians will believe in Confession to a priest (John 20:23), according to private revelation.
Padre Pio bore the stigmata for fifty years, read his words after the assassination of President Kennedy.
“Jackie didn’t tell me that, so I don’t know,” says Archbishop Hannan, adding, however, that there were the deep concerns about the political climate in Texas. “He had been warned about being in Dallas by a number of top Democrats, especially Adlai Stevenson,” recalls the archbishop. “He and others had warned him that they had heard a lot of real bad talk and that it was dangerous for him to go there. Jackie knew when she married him that there would be the possibility of him being assassinated,”
Could this alleged foreboding — these rumors — have led the Catholic president to have secretly requested Confession? Was this really something Kennedy might have done? “It sure could have been,” says Archbishop Hannan. “It sure could have been, because he was told that he was in danger.”
According to the archbishop (Hannan), Kennedy participated in the sacraments throughout his presidency, attending Mass except when travel made it difficult. “When he was outside the city, sometimes he would go to Mass, sometimes he wouldn’t,” notes Hannan.
...It seems that in the zillions of words written in the past four decades, something of this would have come out. If it did happen, perhaps it was Monsignor Wolf, already elderly back in 1963, who took the secret to his grave. Likely? Unlikely? There is one last mystery. In Italy, the famous mystic Padre Pio, since canonized, was said to have broken down and wept at news of the assassination. When a fellow priest, Padre Aurelio, equally distressed, asked him to pray for the dead president’s salvation, Padre Pio reportedly replied: “It’s not necessary. HE’S ALREADY IN PARADISE.”
>>According to the CIA world fact book, <<
US Census 2012.
>>Michael Voris did a really good program <<
Michael Voris is a self-promoting conspiracy theorist who is right about 1/2 the time. He is here in Detroit with me. Most of us (good conservative Catholics) know he hates the Bishops and he never gives credit to the good ones while he belittles the less desirable.
In PERSONALLY speaking with him, he has a one track mind that cannot be changed with facts that do not agree with his theory.
Biden is only a CINO since he supports abortion, same-sex marriage, contraception......want me to go on?
Michael Voris is the one Catholic who tempts me to be Catholic myself. I’ve never seen any error in any of his research or arguments. Considering he has Bishops who also support him, though many hate him, I can’t say that he “hates” the Bishops, the Pope and the Catholic Church when he is a greater champion of it than most Catholics. A shame he is wasted on your church though.
And that PDF does not seem to contradict the CIA world fact book.
>> A shame he is wasted on your church though.<<
Please, you can HAVE him.
We have two historically Catholic, uber-conservative churches in our area, Neither will have him in. He is so into himself, it’s silly.
And RC, I’ve never seen you say anything nice about Catholics, so “tempting” you to become Catholic is about as likely as “tempting” me to eat onions. No way, no how.
“And RC, Ive never seen you say anything nice about Catholics, so tempting you to become Catholic is about as likely as tempting me to eat onions. No way, no how.”
I love onions. And Michael Voris, as well as the late Bishop Sheen, I’m ashamed to say always tempt me to become Catholic. They stand for something which most Catholics do not anymore. He is a credit to your church, and on every Video I see around the internet of Voris are oodles of posts of people proclaiming they are converting. His passion is wasted on an unbiblical, and ungrateful, Church organization.
You can have the Onions, Michael Voris and his paid “oodles” fan club.
>>His passion is wasted on an unbiblical, and ungrateful, Church organization.<<
I love being proven right!
Mitt Romney sought permission from the LDS to run on a pro-abortion platform in Massachusetts. And he got it, of course. And considering the mind-controlling and cultic nature of Mormonism, no leader in the LDS, no matter how minor, can be compared to the leaders in historical Christianity. The institutionalized lying, and emphasis on obedience, are well documented about your hell-bound church.
They’re both morons, Obama and Mitt, so I guess you’re back to stage one.
Just to be clear that’s Paul Ryan not the kooky Paul.
I once saw a segment on the animal planet about a headless cat that was still alive, which the family kept alive by feeding it.
I suspect that if that headless cat had an (R) by its name, you’d still vote for it.
Actually, I’d prefer it over the current nominee. Electing Romney is like reelecting Obama, except this time we’ll be blamed for the Great Economic Collapse that is coming.
LOL, you’re a hoot. No sale!
I wont be satisfied until we have a Pentecostal/Quaker ticket.