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Mormon-Catholic pairing makes for historically unique GOP ticket
foxnews.com ^ | Aug 11 2012 | Tommy Firth

Posted on 08/11/2012 11:51:20 AM PDT by NoLibZone

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To: Elsie

Sounds like you’re set to avoid Obamacare.

I paid in for 46 years so too late to call it quits.

If Obama is re-elected, I’d advise anybody under 40 who isn’t going to leave the country to consider becoming Mennonite.


151 posted on 08/12/2012 12:53:57 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Elsie
Mr Elsie. Quite a show you put on each and every day, jumping thread to thread with your anti Mormon bible clutched to bosom, wild eyed and all thunder and judgemental. I have lost track of exactly what has gotten you so out of sorts other than you plain do not like Romney, the Mormon religion, and not being the center of somebody's attention. Else wise you would not have bothered tapping out your endless screed against the Mormons to somebody, me, who obviously will never find your bibical references to be in sync with your claims of Mormon error. I think that even a Jesuit would be at a loss to keep up with your rantings.
Or could it be that this drama is all for the purpose of keeping Free Republic from being relevant in defeating the current socialist democrat administration headed by puppet Obama? Considering that your numerous lengthy postings have long since made your point of hating Romney and Mormons and lucidity seems unimportant, you and your anti Mormon/Romney coworkers must have an agenda less apparent but cogent to yourselves at least.

God willing, and ever more merciful than this country HE has protected for so long deserves, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will be voted President and Vice President this Nov. This Republic will begin to heal and prosper once again. God bless them both.

152 posted on 08/12/2012 3:00:43 PM PDT by mountainfolk ( God bless America)
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To: Elsie
"Why should 'GOD' even CONSIDER 'blessing' ROMNEY?"

... Because a significant number of Christian Americans are going to be praying that God steer the heart of the cult-duped president ...

153 posted on 08/12/2012 3:07:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Elsie
"Why should 'GOD' even CONSIDER 'blessing' ROMNEY?"

... Because a significant number of Christian Americans are going to be praying that God steer the heart of the cult-duped president ...

154 posted on 08/12/2012 3:08:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: LukeSW; ansel12; Jim Robinson; wagglebee
On Sat Aug 11 2012 17:17:12 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) (40 of 154) LukeSW wrote to ansel12: “Mitt is not a leader in the Mormon Church. He was a Bishop, like a Congregational Pastor.”

Luke, you must know better than this.

Under Congregational church government, the local church is autonomous and nobody outside the local church can tell the local pastor what to do. That is true for Congregationalism (capital “C”) as well as congregationally-governed denominations (lowercase “c”) such as Baptists and the majority of other modern evangelical denominations. While it's entirely possible for a Congregational pastor to have his credentials removed by the denomination or for the local church to be expelled from the denomination, I don't think you can seriously argue that a Mormon bishop has anywhere near the level of freedom that a Congregational pastor has.

I have no desire to misrepresent Mormonism, but to argue that Mitt Romney “was a Bishop, like a Congregational Pastor” is neither accurate nor helpful.

On the broader issue of Mormonism — Luke, I've been reading your posts. Apparently you have close enough ties with the Romney family and long enough history in the LDS that you're able to have some influence with him. I hope you're successful, but I'm not optimistic.

The stakes are high for America, for the Republican Party, and for your church.

The Mormons have spent more than a century trying to craft a public image of being conservative and pro-family, and have had a fair amount of success. However, Romney's history on abortion, homosexuality, socialized medicine, gun control, and many other issues could easily undo many decades of hard work by Mormons to present themselves as a group of hard-working people who support strong family values.

There are precedents — bad precedents — and Mormons need to consider history before you repeat it.

The elevation of John F. Kennedy to the presidency put liberalism into the driver's seat of the Roman Catholic Church for a generation. If I were a Mormon, I would be seriously concerned that the elevation of Romney to the presidency may do major damage not only to the public image of Mormonism but also to your own church. The very least that can be said is that the Romney family's long history of left-of-center political positions does not enhance the public image Mormons have been trying to create.

Do Mormons want to be known as the church of Harry Reid, Mitt Romney and John Huntsman? That's for you and your church to decide, not outsiders like me. But if that's the choice you make, many of us in the evangelical world who have some respect for your church's work fighting homosexuality in California and similar issues will start wondering if even your “families are forever” advocacy is up for negotiation. I don't think that's a risk you want to take.

155 posted on 08/13/2012 2:48:44 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Elsie
If he was FULL TIME and 24/7 how on EARTH could he POSSIBLY take on any more? We just read that he did NOT step down from his church's position; so did he therefore CHEAT the US citizen by barely attending his governmental duties?

No, quite the opposite (as is the case with most of your vitriolic allegations). Benson gave full time service to his position as Secretary of Agriculture and was excused from his Church leadership responsibilities during those 8 years of service.
156 posted on 08/13/2012 9:55:14 AM PDT by LukeSW (The truth shall make you free!)
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To: LukeSW
Benson gave full time service to his position as Secretary of Agriculture and was excused from his Church leadership responsibilities during those 8 years of service.

Oh???


In 1953, Benson was appointed U.S. Secretary of Agriculture by President Eisenhower. Benson accepted this position with the permission of Church President David O. McKay and therefore served simultaneously in the United States Cabinet and in the LDS Church's Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.


157 posted on 08/13/2012 12:13:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LukeSW
On 26 July 1943, Ezra Taft Benson’s true vocation of serving in the kingdom became his full-time occupation when President Heber J. Grant called him to be the youngest member of the Quorum of the Twelve. He was set apart on October 7 of that year, the same day as Elder Spencer W. Kimball, whom he would follow as President.
 
 
 
In 1952, Elder Benson was astonished to receive a telephone call informing him that U.S. President-elect Dwight D. Eisenhower, a man he had never met, wanted to talk to him about becoming U.S. Secretary of Agriculture. Farm leaders had recommended Ezra Taft Benson as the best man for the job. With Church President David O. McKay’s blessing and President Eisenhower’s assurance that he need never endorse a policy that he did not agree with, Elder Benson became Secretary Benson. The Benson family returned to Washington, D.C., for the eight years of the Eisenhower administration.
 
 
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158 posted on 08/13/2012 12:26:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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