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5 Reasons why choosing Paul Ryan was a great decision
Catholic Vote ^ | August 10, 2012 | Joshua Mercer

Posted on 08/11/2012 1:35:39 PM PDT by NYer

Minutes ago in Norfolk, Virginia, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan was introduced as Mitt Romney’s running mate. It turns out all that talk about Romney being risk averse was a bigger head fake that those bogus rumors of considering Condi Rice.

There are five reasons why Mitt Romney’s bold pick of Paul Ryan is great for America.

1. Picking a Catholic running mate means that the Vice Presidential debate will feature two people who profess the Catholic faith but who are on opposite sides of life, marriage and religious liberty. The contrast couldn’t be greater. Paul Ryan has been outspoken on life and marriage. Joe Biden has supported abortion and pushed the White House to support same-sex ‘marriage.’ As CatholicVote noted yesterday, Paul Ryan has denounced the mandate: “This is much, much bigger than about contraception. This is about religious freedom, First Amendment rights, and how this progressive philosophy of fungible rights of a living breathing constitution really clashes and collides with these core rights that we built our society and country around.”

2. For the first time since Roe v. Wade, the Republican party will have a pro-life Catholic on the national ticket. The Republican Party has only nominated a Catholic once on the national ticket, when Barry Goldwater tapped New York Rep. William Miller on the 1964 ticket. And thankfully, Republican primary voters have, in the past, said no to pro-abortion Republican candidates like Rudy Guiliani. Paul Ryan has been a strong and consistent pro-life vote in Congress.

3. The Church, as well as the country, can have a conversation about government spending within its means. It’s one of the most important economic challenges facing us right now. Social Security and Medicare are set to go supernova in the budget as a title wave of Baby Boomers retire. Making the decision to slow down the rate of growth in these programs (not even actual cuts) would bring our fiscal house in order. But we’ll have to get beyond the hot air and vicious attacks.

4. And now we’ll have that national conversation on subsidiarity, too. The Obama campaign has said that they modeled their health care plan after Mitt Romney. But even if that’s true, it forgets the principle of federalism — the notion that the federal government should be limited to a few functions, allowing states and local communities (and civic organizations) the opportunity to tackle the problems in ways that work best for them. A one-size-fits-all solution has to work for the military, but why should we only have one health care plan across 3,000 miles?

5. Paul Ryan comes from a Midwestern blue collar district, critical to the GOP’s 2012 effort. For many years it was held by Lee Aspin, a Democrat who became Clinton’s Defense Secretary. In fact, President Clinton bested Bob Dole in this district by about 12 points. If Republicans want to win the White House, they’ll need to win the hearts and minds of people like those who live in Wisconsin’s First District. Paul Ryan speaks their language and understands their concerns and is a natural person to make the case in industrial Catholic cities like Dubuque, Saginaw, and Toledo.

Mitt Romney went bold and picked Paul Ryan as his running mate. We’re now going to have an election based on ideas. We’ll have that much needed debate on Medicare spending. But we’re also not walking away from a debate on the HHS mandate and life and marriage, too.

Game on.


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1 posted on 08/11/2012 1:35:42 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 08/11/2012 1:37:04 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

Plus I can’t wait to see the debates between Ryan and plugs.


3 posted on 08/11/2012 1:45:06 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: NYer; All
From the article: Picking a Catholic running mate...

Wait a minute...I've been told HUNDREDS...even possibly THOUSANDS of times...that Mitt's Mormonism is irrelevant to the POTUS office...

Why would either (a) some conservatives "hypocritically" deem Catholicism as somehow relevant to the VP office;
Or, (b) Will we see all the "Mormonism is irrelevant" posters suddenly show up on this and the hundreds of other threads to preach their same "religion is irrelevant" message...

Or is Mormonism getting "sacred cow" protection...by those on their religiously hypocritcal bent???

4 posted on 08/11/2012 1:49:27 PM PDT by Colofornian (Why don't you 'birthers' ask Mitt about his 'spirit-birth' on planet near Kolob? Hypocrisy @ work?)
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To: NYer
One reason is evidential. The left is screaming out loud!

I love the smell of PANIC in the morning.

5 posted on 08/11/2012 1:52:45 PM PDT by stevem
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To: NYer
"In tapping Mr. Ryan, Mr. Romney, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, has turned the election from a referendum on Mr. Obama's economic record into a choice between two dramatically divergent views of the government's spending and taxes."

Stephen Dinan The Washington Times

6 posted on 08/11/2012 1:53:04 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Chosing Ryan= a choice between two dramatically divergent views of government’s spending & taxes)
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To: Colofornian

The article is from a Catholic site.

Let me guess , you hate Catholics too.


7 posted on 08/11/2012 1:56:04 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Chosing Ryan= a choice between two dramatically divergent views of government’s spending & taxes)
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To: Colofornian
Hon, the organization linked here is "Catholic Vote." The very purpose of the organization is to promote Catholic political values (hence hence two-finger quotes around each word, ..."Catholic".... "Vote"). They see Ryan as being an example of this while Biden ---also a self-described Catholic --- is an opposite.

You'll notice they're not supporting Biden.

That's the point.

8 posted on 08/11/2012 1:57:39 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you, may the Lord keep you, May He turn to you His countenance and give you peace)
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To: NYer

Very interesting point about Biden and Ryan both being Catholics. Not that I’m expecting the VP debate to be anything more than a blowout...

In fact I’d bet the Biden people are working feverishly today to reschedule it — for some time in December ;-)


9 posted on 08/11/2012 1:59:02 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: NYer
1. Picking a Catholic running mate means that the Vice Presidential debate will feature two people who profess the Catholic faith but who are on opposite sides of life, marriage and religious liberty.

Unintended consequences (I hope):

1. Splitting the Catholic vote

2. Fomenting schism over "what does it mean to be Catholic/Christian in the political realm?" 3. Legitimizing (backhandedly via Biden) "cafeteria Catholics".

10 posted on 08/11/2012 1:59:06 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: NYer

Catholics up north need to get a grip of their lives and undersand that being pro fecal sex and killing babies is not Catholic.

Shame how so many call themselves something but ignore what they are supposed to follow.


11 posted on 08/11/2012 2:02:06 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: b4its2late

Can’t wait by half !!


12 posted on 08/11/2012 2:03:14 PM PDT by onona (loving butter pecan)
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To: NYer; scottjewell; ebb tide; Sirius Lee; lilycicero; MaryLou1; glock rocks; JPG; Monkey Face; ...
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13 posted on 08/11/2012 2:03:14 PM PDT by narses
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To: NoLibZone

He denigrates everyone that is not saved by Jay-sus.


14 posted on 08/11/2012 2:03:57 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: NoLibZone

Let me guess: You beat your kids as well as your your spouse, too.


15 posted on 08/11/2012 2:04:03 PM PDT by Colofornian (Why don't you 'birthers' ask Mitt about his 'spirit-birth' on planet near Kolob? Hypocrisy @ work?)
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To: NYer

16 posted on 08/11/2012 2:05:08 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I love how you started with “Hon”

Just gives me a down home feeling is all.......


17 posted on 08/11/2012 2:05:34 PM PDT by onona (loving butter pecan)
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To: Rennes Templar; NoLibZone
He denigrates everyone that is not saved by Jay-sus.

(You apparently denigrate every poster not saved by the political savior, Mitt "The Rino" Romney)

18 posted on 08/11/2012 2:05:42 PM PDT by Colofornian (Why don't you 'birthers' ask Mitt about his 'spirit-birth' on planet near Kolob? Hypocrisy @ work?)
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To: Colofornian
To make it a little clear: the reason why Ryan is getting CV's endorsement while Biden is not, is that while both of them are Catholic in "church affiliation," only one of them is Catholic in "values."

If there were no Catholics in the race at all, CV would support a pro-life, pro-liberty, pro-marriage Protestant, Mormon, or Jew. And they would oppose a Protestant, Mormon, or Jew (or Catholic) who was an opponent on lifel -liberty-and-marriage issues.

So it comes down to values, not denominaton.

19 posted on 08/11/2012 2:08:08 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you, may the Lord keep you, May He turn to you His countenance and give you peace)
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To: Colofornian

And you seem to foul every thread you post in. Kinda like my rabbit fouls her litter box.


20 posted on 08/11/2012 2:08:54 PM PDT by Lucas McCain ("The day may come when the courage of men will fail, but not this day.")
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To: Colofornian
Take my wife!
21 posted on 08/11/2012 2:09:51 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: NYer

“Subsidiarity”???


22 posted on 08/11/2012 2:10:52 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: NYer

His name was Les Aspin.


23 posted on 08/11/2012 2:10:57 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: Lucas McCain
And you seem to be intolerant of my posts. (Kinda like your average liberal who preaches "tolerance" yet are among THE most "intolerant" in our culture).

(We forget that our average "conservative" has been taught by 95% of Dems or Independents @ your average college campus...and 70-80% of Dems at our local high schools...)

24 posted on 08/11/2012 2:12:35 PM PDT by Colofornian (Why don't you 'birthers' ask Mitt about his 'spirit-birth' on planet near Kolob? Hypocrisy @ work?)
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To: stevem

and as Beck would say, blood shooting from their eyeballs.


25 posted on 08/11/2012 2:12:47 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: onona
Do you think Attila's wife called him `Hun'?
26 posted on 08/11/2012 2:13:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thank you for your comments.


27 posted on 08/11/2012 2:13:49 PM PDT by Colofornian (Why don't you 'birthers' ask Mitt about his 'spirit-birth' on planet near Kolob? Hypocrisy @ work?)
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To: iowamark

Yeah, the genius who denied armor to our guys in Somalia


28 posted on 08/11/2012 2:14:36 PM PDT by Rome2000 (WILLARD ROMNEY -- MORMON MELCHIDEZEK BISHOP -HIS FAMILY HAS AVOIDED MILITARY SERVICE FOR GENERATIONS)
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To: NYer
6. According to Wisconsin law, Ryan can still run for Congress while running as Romney's VP.

Should the GOP lose, Wisconsin could still have him as one of their Reps.

29 posted on 08/11/2012 2:14:43 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001. NEVER FORGET.)
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To: NYer
Yep...as the stunningly beautiful, stunningly astute and stunningly articulate ANNIE COULTER says.....

'I think we've had enough of hip; hip has nearly wrecked the country ...let's try square for awhile'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=M2Hv_LKTaD8#t=747s



{AND YA KNOW MITT; ANNIE WOULD HAVE SAID 'YES' IF YOU HAD BEEN ASTUTE ENOUGH TO ASK HER ....JUST SAYIN'}
30 posted on 08/11/2012 2:15:01 PM PDT by jimsin (S)
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To: NYer

I heard on Fox that Ryan voted FOR TARP and auto industry bail outs.............


31 posted on 08/11/2012 2:15:10 PM PDT by buffyt (Ted Cruz, Allen West, Rand Paul, Tim Scott, Herman Cain -- for President -- 2016)
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To: Colofornian
You'd prefer a different Paul, wouldn't you?


32 posted on 08/11/2012 2:15:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Colofornian

Since Christians are known for their love- I have to ask:
Are you a Christian?


33 posted on 08/11/2012 2:15:24 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Chosing Ryan= a choice between two dramatically divergent views of government’s spending & taxes)
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To: NYer

The ratings for the Ryan and Plugs debate will be right up there with any Super Bowl and the final MASH. All because it’ll be soooo fun to watch Ryan hand Plugs his butt on a plate!!


34 posted on 08/11/2012 2:19:17 PM PDT by albie
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To: bigbob

I’ve always believed that depending on who his opponent was, there’s a good chance that BO would refuse to participate in a debate.. And now, the likelihood of seeing the best boxing match in history(Plugs and Paul) could be a pipe dream as well.

Why? because this administration is cowardly, dirty and they don’t think that rules apply to them.
I hope I’m wrong.


35 posted on 08/11/2012 2:19:17 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: tumblindice

Probably Hunny.........

Hey Hunny Bunny, who’d you exterminate for me today ?


36 posted on 08/11/2012 2:22:59 PM PDT by onona (loving butter pecan)
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To: NYer
Wouldn't you love to see the Obama and Romney internal polls five days hence? I'd pay the cost of a movie ticket just to glance at them. There will be squarish building components germinating from the backsides of many a Democrat campaign functionary.
37 posted on 08/11/2012 2:23:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: tumblindice; Mrs. Don-o

Did I ever mention that I love Free Republic ?


38 posted on 08/11/2012 2:25:16 PM PDT by onona (loving butter pecan)
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To: Revolting cat!
'Travis Tritt--please pick up the white courtesy phone' I loved watching & listening to this guy on the Grand Old Opry when I visited my grandparents in the summer. He was like the love child of Bram Stoker's Dracula & Frankenstein's monster, in a sparkling Nudie suit.
39 posted on 08/11/2012 2:27:14 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: buffyt

yup. many, many did. fear ? uncertainty ? don’t know.

I remember listening to one CEO of an airline while that was going on. He was like, “what the hell, nobody bailed us out.”

His point, not understood by many, was that bankruptcy and reorganization are not necessarily bad things.

Ah well, water under the bridge now. I’m sure they’ve all learned a valuable lesson and it will never be repeated.


40 posted on 08/11/2012 2:29:20 PM PDT by onona (loving butter pecan)
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To: NYer
Presentations by or Involving Congressman Paul Ryan - Vice-Presidential Nominee 2012
Chairman of the House Budget Committee

Congressman Paul Ryan Addresses His vs Obama's version of Economics 2012  720p 14:30
Congressman Paul Ryan: the U.S. Needs Prosperity Not Austerity with Steve Forbes 2012  720p 15:09
Congressman Paul Ryan on Morality of the Federal Budget with Raymond Arroyo 2012  360p 14:03  quality is quite good for 360p
Congressman Paul Ryan's GOP Response to State of the Union 2011  720p 10:48
Congressman Paul Ryan Goes On the Record With Greta Van Susteren  480p   9:59  quality is quite good for 480p
Congressman Paul Ryan Addresses President on Issue of Obamacare 2010  360p   6:12  quality is quite good for 360p
Congressman Paul Ryan on the Steep Climb to Reclaim the American Idea 2010  240p   4:38  sub-par video, excellent sound worth hearing

Romney's Announcement of Congressman Ryan's Selection as His Vice-Presidential Running Mate 08/11/2012 &
Vice-Presidetial Nominee Congressman Paul Ryan's Acceptance Speech

LINK 720p 27:33

Congressman Paul Ryan Addresses the Repeal of Obamacare 2011  5 parts  360p  8:25 6:36 9:12 12:22 10:13 [46:12] quality is fair at 360p
I believe these segments will chain, but there are five segments available by clicking on the desired segment below the main playing screen.  
41 posted on 08/11/2012 2:38:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: lightman; Tax-chick
Obama has been assembling a select subset of Catholic allies, cultivating heretical pseudo-Catholic doctrine, and recruiting and grooming a counter-Magisterium literally since he was a young Marxist 20-something.

In 1986, Obama, then a community organizer in Chicago, attended training offered by the Industrial Areas Foundation (IAF) --- Alinsky's group --- with funds provided by the Archdiocese of Chicago. The story is in Schlafly's new book, "No Higher Power" (Link).

So he has a longstanding "special relationship" of a perverse sort, with Catholics: that is, for the purpose of splitting and wrecking the one institution he knows he has to take down.

He'll set up Darth Sebelius as the de-facto administrator of all formerly-Catholic hospitals and charities in the United States. As for the resisters, some will end up financially ruined, some in prison, some framed and disgraced, some dead.

Care to join us?

42 posted on 08/11/2012 2:42:25 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: NYer; Grampa Dave; tubebender; Carry_Okie; ElkGroveDan; ScottinSacto; calif_reaganite; ...
The best reasons I can think of are

1. Recent Tea Party success and pressure forced Romney to select Paul Ryan, the champion of fiscal sanity!

2. Obama thought he got away with bich-slapping Ryan around at that retreat and again at a public meeting on Obamacare, where he rudely berated Paul and his ideas.

43 posted on 08/11/2012 2:43:54 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Government it'self is the REAL "Free Rider!" Obamacare will create burdensome "Free Riding!!!")
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To: NYer
 
Paul Ryan, Family Man and proud of it!

44 posted on 08/11/2012 2:49:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: onona
Me too, on and off..

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Tagline.

45 posted on 08/11/2012 2:50:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Attila the Mom.)
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To: NYer

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Holiness (Paul Ryan)

46 posted on 08/11/2012 2:56:15 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; lightman; Tax-chick
Obama has been assembling a select subset of Catholic allies, cultivating heretical pseudo-Catholic doctrine, and recruiting and grooming a counter-Magisterium literally since he was a young Marxist 20-something.

Mrs. Don-o Plugs Biden , Stretch Pelosi, and Horseface Kerry, are not Catholics. At best they might be cafeteria catholics, or Catholics in name only.

47 posted on 08/11/2012 3:00:00 PM PDT by Hope for the Republic (The 1st amendment is guaranteed by the 2nd amendment.)
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To: Mountain Mary

I think you’re right. Obama and Biden will refuse to debate.

Also, the media will cover for them and make it all Romney’s fault


48 posted on 08/11/2012 3:01:37 PM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: NYer

My libtard friends and acquaintances on Facebook are awfully quiet today. I expect a deluge of posts Tuesday morning after Jon Stewart tells them how they should ‘feel’ about Paul Ryan.


49 posted on 08/11/2012 3:04:48 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Colofornian
Wait a minute...I've been told HUNDREDS...even possibly THOUSANDS of times...that Mitt's Mormonism is irrelevant to the POTUS office...

I disagree with you most of the time, but that is a pretty fair point.

Romney's Mormonism doesn't matter and isn't worth talking about, but suddenly Ryan's Catholicism not only matters but is being heralded as a great asset.

It's just politics is all. The truth is that partisan political folks (which is most of us on political forums like this) will generally vote for whomever represents our policy positions best no matter what. We have our team and half the battle is defeating the other team. We will make excuses for our guy/girl even if all we have to care about is just defeating the opposition. Human nature and politics aren't going to change.

I don't personally care that Romney is a Mormon, and I don't care that Ryan is a Catholic. Romney/anyone represents my views better than Obama/Biden. Romney/anyone is the only ticket that has a chance of removing Obama/Biden from office. That is reason enough to vote for Romney/anyone. I think Ryan is a good choice because it may focus the election more on debt and spending. That is a debate the country needs. If I found out Ryan was a nutter who really believed in the great cockroach God I'd still vote for him so long as he lobbied and/or voted for my policy positions (and kept his cockroach worship secret so as not to become a liability). Silly examples, but you get the point (even if you don't agree).

50 posted on 08/11/2012 3:08:29 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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