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Anti-Bullying Campaign Airs Its First Ad, Targets Parents
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57488005/anti-bullying-ad-campaign-targets-parents/ ^

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:00:57 PM PDT by wintertime

WASHINGTON — Parents are urged to teach their kids to speak up if they witness school bullying in new ads that target an issue that top Obama administration officials vow to make a national priority.

long-term campaign featuring television, print and web ads was unveiled Monday and will start running in October. The campaign is a joint effort by the Ad Council, a nonprofit that distributes public service announcements, and the Free to Be Foundation, a group that includes entertainers Marlo Thomas, Alan Alda and Mel Brooks.

one television ad, two girls are seen bullying a schoolmate, mocking her appearance and telling her that nobody likes her. A fourth girl looks on but doesn't intervene.

"Every day, kids witness bullying," says a narrator. "They want to help, but don't know how. Teach your kids how to be more than a bystander."

Online and print ads will warn parents that their kids regularly encounter negative messages such as "you're worthless" and "everybody hates you."

ads were unveiled Monday at an annual anti-bullying summit hosted by the Department of Education in Washington, where lawmakers, educators and government officials convened to develop a national strategy aimed at ensuring a safe, healthy learning environment for students. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius addressed the summit Monday, and Education Secretary Arne Duncan will deliver a keynote speech on Tuesday.

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1) What **rational** parent would even consider sending their children into an institution where they would " **regularly**encounter negative messages such as "you're worthless" and "everybody hates you."? Hopefully, these ads will result in a massive withdraw of children from the government schools this August.

2) While I do not condone ignoring abuse, the very fact that government schools are run by government functionaries may teach the children to be comfortable being government snitches on the family and neighbors. In a private school reporting to government workers wouldn't be an issue.

3) As you drive by your local government owned and run socialist-entitlement schools, as yourself, "Does that building look like a prison? In what ways are the children ( who are there under police threat) treated like prisoners."? If children are treated like prisoners we shouldn't be surprised to see bullying and cliques since both are manifestations of prison social pathology.

1 posted on 08/11/2012 4:01:02 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Bring back the golden rule...do unto others....


2 posted on 08/11/2012 4:06:40 PM PDT by FES0844
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To: wintertime

Sounds like Obama’s message to people who own small businesses.


3 posted on 08/11/2012 4:11:43 PM PDT by Richard from IL
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To: metmom; little jeremiah; JenB; BobL; verga; Hope for the Republic; Jay Redhawk; slowhandluke; ...
Another Reason to Homeschool
Ping to a few friends and others who have pinged me in the last day or two.

Two more things:

Bullying is harmful not only to the child being bullied but also to those witnessing it. Many children live in fear that they may be the next target.

When we lived on the East Coast our family went to the ocean beach often. I never recall seeing bullying on the beach. I think there are many reasons for this.

—There is adequate adult supervision, ( being on the edge of the ocean) by parents who are emotionally invested in their children.

—The children can leave an activity at any time.

—There is opportunity to rest when tired and eat when hungry.

—I found it very interesting to watch the older children teaching the younger children good “beach manners”.

—It was fascinating to watch children, who supposedly have short attention spans, work intensely on the same project for and entire day and ( sometimes) for several days.

—In one particular incident, I was very impressed to watch an older girl ( about 11) spend an entire afternoon teaching a younger child ( about 7) how to do somersaults.

Maybe if schools were more like beaches we would see more learning, and genuinely healthy socialization. But..Hey! That's what homeschooling is!

4 posted on 08/11/2012 4:14:52 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: Richard from IL

More opportunity for attorney’s to file lawsuits.


5 posted on 08/11/2012 4:16:23 PM PDT by Claytonbridge
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To: wintertime

This is ridiculous. None of the kids I bullied in school turned out to be psycho killers.


6 posted on 08/11/2012 4:20:19 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama does not have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: wintertime

Guess what, idiot - I had the same things said to me in Catholic school back in the 60s and 70s...........

I am so sick and tired of your freaking bullying - and that is EXACTLY what your idiocy is. My 14 year old has long known what you are and she is the one that called you a bully - and did so more than 2 years ago.

Do not ever again include me in one of your spam pings. I have never hit ‘abuse’ on you in the past, but you are pushing your luck with the limits of my tolerance to your intolerance.

I will save you the keystrokes - yes I personally attacked you and called you an idiot - because you are. For years you have called me an unfit parent and I finally realized you are the one with the problem - not me. live with it.


7 posted on 08/11/2012 4:36:00 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

I always taught my kids not to bully other kids, but if someone bullied them to kick the crap out of them.


8 posted on 08/11/2012 4:36:00 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: wintertime; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
I just spoke with the President... what can we do about this right-wing bullying?

We'll work up... a Number 6 on 'em!

Fantastic! I cannot wait.. to tell the President about this!

You know, Hedley, if you only had to play golf and go to fundraiser... this won't be a bad gig--

9 posted on 08/11/2012 4:41:52 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: wintertime
Anti-Bullying Campaign Airs Its First Ad, Targets Parents

The first message needs to go to school administrators.

Just like the owner of a business has a responsibility to make sure the workplace is free of harassment, so too do school administrators have the responsibility to make sure the school is free of bully harassment.

Once again the message is directed to the wrong place.

10 posted on 08/11/2012 5:02:58 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Gabz; gunsequalfreedom
Guess what, idiot ...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is a personal insult. I do not contact the moderators with these insults. It is so much better for them to remain for all to see. They say so much more about the poster than they do me.

As for you request. I will try to remember it and, If I remember, I will honor it. However...You and your wishes are not on my most urgent list. If you do not want me on your ping list, then perhaps you should not ping mine. Here is your latest unsolicited ping to me. Should I accuse you of bullying me? I won't because, as a mature adult, I realize that if I step into the kitchen I should fully expect that it will be hot there.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2916442/replies?c=7

As for the “bullying” perhaps you should be ranting at CBSnews for reporting on it.

By the way, “ gunsequalsfreedom” makes a good point in post #10. It is the government school administrators responsibility to provide for a safe and harassment free environment. They should be held to the same standard as any manager of any business. Why should **children** be made to suffer abuse that would win millions of dollars for an adult and jail time for the perp?

11 posted on 08/11/2012 5:18:35 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: MuttTheHoople

Its only because they haven’t found you yet! Just kidding. It used to be that kids were taught to stand up to bullies, and if there was a fight you at least won respect if nothing else. Bullies tend to move on to someone else once you stand up to them. Every kid needs to undergo a certain amount of seasoning to learn how to deal with the diseased world around them.


12 posted on 08/11/2012 5:19:02 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: Gabz

I agree. My child went to a Christian school and was a victim of “mean girsl” for most of her school career. I spoke with school officials and they did nothing. When I asked my daughter if she wanted to go to another private school, she declined because she was #1 in her class and wanted to be valedictorian and show those girls up. She now teaches in a public school and is very happy.She is salt and light to the teachers, parents , and students.
My son witnessed what his sister was going through, went to a public voc-tech high school and flourished! He now teaches at that same school and leads by example.
Not all public schools are evil, not all private schools are good!!!


13 posted on 08/11/2012 5:20:31 PM PDT by copwife (All God's creatures have a place in the choir!)
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To: Claytonbridge
More opportunity for attorney’s to file lawsuits.
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It is malpractice for teachers not to provide a safe and harassment free environment.

If other professionals and businesses can get sued for failing to do so in their practices, offices, and workplaces, then so should teachers and principals. They should also lose their licenses just as other professionals do.

Where are the malpractice class action lawyers when we need them?

14 posted on 08/11/2012 5:23:12 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: gunsequalfreedom
The first message needs to go to school administrators.

I totally disagree with you. Parents are who need to be addressed. Bullies are raised that way and that comes from the home, not the school.

I graduated HS in 1978 and had been dealing with bullies from the time I was in 1st grade - and I was never in public school. My daughter had to deal with a bully in elementary school. That child is/was a bully because it is all she knew - her mother is one.

15 posted on 08/11/2012 5:24:24 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz

I agree. My child went to a Christian school and was a victim of “mean girsl” for most of her school career. I spoke with school officials and they did nothing. When I asked my daughter if she wanted to go to another private school, she declined because she was #1 in her class and wanted to be valedictorian and show those girls up. She now teaches in a public school and is very happy.She is salt and light to the teachers, parents , and students.
My son witnessed what his sister was going through, went to a public voc-tech high school and flourished! He now teaches at that same school and leads by example.
Not all public schools are evil, not all private schools are good!!!


16 posted on 08/11/2012 5:25:06 PM PDT by copwife (All God's creatures have a place in the choir!)
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To: copwife
Not all public schools are evil,
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Government schools are evil for several reasons:

1) They are godless and at their best were never more than generically lukewarm in their Protestant worldview. What does Christ do with the lukewarm? He spits them out of His mouth! The taxpayers are **forced** to pay for the establishment of a government godless worldview. And...The children who attend WILL and are FORCED to think and reason godlessly just to cooperate in the godless classroom, read the godless textbooks, and do their godless homework.

2) Government schools are a single-payer socialist entitlement. The risk of having our nation's children attend these schools is they risk learning to be comfortable with single-payer socialism and comfortable with the government forcing them to use it. Why wouldn't they? If the voting mob can give them tuition free schooling, why can't the voting mob give them lots of free goodies and compel them to use it.

3) All Prussian model schools must suppress speech, press, assembly, expression of religion, and all schools have a non-neutral religious worldview that is either godless or God-centered. When government schools suppress First Amendment Rights, the children risk learning to be comfortable with government tyranny. This is evil!

4) All schools have a worldview that is not, and never can be religiously, culturally, or political neutral. Such a state is impossible in the mind of any sentient being. Government schools are **not** and never have been neutral in content or consequences. It is evil to force taxpayers to pay for the **establishment** of a religiously NON-neutral worldview in the minds of our nation's future voters. In fact it is evil.

17 posted on 08/11/2012 5:34:30 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: Jay Redhawk
Every kid needs to undergo a certain amount of seasoning to learn how to deal with the diseased world around them.
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This is a variation of “Bullying is good for children.”

Well...If bullying soooooo good then why do adults get millions awarded to them in court, perps sent to prison, professionals lose their licenses and sued for malpractice, and business given huge fines for the same type of physical and emotional harassment?

Unbelievable!

18 posted on 08/11/2012 5:38:48 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: copwife

Your children sound wonderful! Good for them and good for you!

Your kids sound like many of the teachers my daughter has had. I thank goodness or teachers such as them!

Be proud Mom! You’ve earned it.


19 posted on 08/11/2012 5:39:13 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: copwife

The biggest bullies in my old school were the nuns and the priest. Public school was a much nicer place.

Too many parents move into a district without first checking out the schools and then blame everyone but themselves. If they don’t get involved with the school, then they are part of the problem.


20 posted on 08/11/2012 5:43:01 PM PDT by bgill
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To: wintertime

Let us not close out this thread without a word of thanks to Mr. Compassionate Conservatism himself, George W. Bush.

He boosted Washington’s intrusion into local schools with his fascist No Child Left Behind program.

Obama is building on the bureaucratic colossus built by his supposedly conservative predecessor. Obama is demanding that No Child Shall Be Bullied. Or else I will bully YOU.

Thank you, Mr. Compassionate Conservative. You just keep on giving, don’t you?


21 posted on 08/11/2012 5:49:42 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: wintertime; metmom; little jeremiah; JenB; BobL; verga; Hope for the Republic; Jay Redhawk; ...
To wintertime's ping list: I recently asked wintertime to provide me with legitmate unbiased studies as to the end results of home schools versus public schools.

Are the students more emotionally stable, better parents, do they have better earning potential, etc....

He did provide me with a link to a study (Eleven years old) commissioned by a home school association (fair enough) the study was done by the president of another home schooling group. The study did use a large enough sample size (around 7,000) but the vast majority (Over 66%) of the sample were home school students.

Since Wintertime has agreed that only 4% of the population home schools, the sample size is obviously skewed.

Would any of you have links to any studies that do demonstrate the superiority of home schooling?

I am not looking for anecdotal opinions, I need empirical evidence. And please don't complain to me that the public schools have not done the studies either. Given the length of time that home schooling has been going on there should be dozens of studies.

22 posted on 08/11/2012 6:00:12 PM PDT by Hope for the Republic (The 1st amendment is guaranteed by the 2nd amendment.)
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To: Hope for the Republic

It is impolite here on Free Republic to carry the topic and discussion from one thread to another.

Perhaps you should copy this post and take it to its proper thread.


23 posted on 08/11/2012 6:06:27 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: heye2monn

Good point


24 posted on 08/11/2012 6:07:52 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime
This is a variation of “Bullying is good for children.”

” Well...If bullying soooooo good then why do adults get millions awarded to them in court, perps sent to prison, professionals lose their licenses and sued for malpractice, and business given huge fines for the same type of physical and emotional harassment?
Unbelievable!”

The answer is simple. We have become a society of pansies and golddiggers looking to be harassed, offended, or somehow bullied. There was a day when men were men and women were women, and they did not need to hide behind societal curtains like home schooling. The process of boys becoming men and girls becoming women has been disrupted by know it alls, do gooders, and zealots. It is much easier to just runaway and hide, sue, or claim foul than it is to stand up and face tyranny head on. Whenever people runaway for some sort of perceived cover, tyranny grows stronger because there is not enough people left behind to challenge it. Yes, our public institutions are rotten, but it is our fault for not standing up and fighting for what is right. Instead too many looked for somewhere to run, hide their eyes, and pretend they were better than everyone else.

What is unbelievable is how many cowards we have in this country today.

25 posted on 08/11/2012 6:10:22 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: wintertime
Looks like you have gotten “owned” on your inability to proved studies supporting you, as well on your bullying tactics. Please note I did not call you a bully I said your tactics (like your hero Alinsky) are bullying. Further it seems like quite a few people agree with me.
26 posted on 08/11/2012 6:12:50 PM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: Hope for the Republic; wintertime; metmom; little jeremiah; JenB; BobL; verga; Jay Redhawk

“And please don’t complain to me that the public schools have not done the studies either. Given the length of time that home schooling has been going on there should be dozens of studies.”

Of course there SHOULD be dozens of studies on home schooling, just as there should have been dozens of studies on Saxon Math (the main reason home schoolers run circles around the rest of the field).

But the BOTTOM LINE is that studies cost money and for an study to be considered unbiased, it must be paid for by a neutral party. Well, in the case of Saxon Math, the people with the deep pockets knew EXACTLY what the results would be...so they never paid for a study - no matter how much John Saxon begged them. Likewise for home schooling, Big Education knows EXACTLY what the results would be (i.e., there’s a reason that home schoolers nearly always win spelling bees and other competitions)...so why would they ever pay for a study?

We’re used to that treatment...but our results speak for themselves - there is no debate - that was settled at least a decade ago.


27 posted on 08/11/2012 6:19:02 PM PDT by BobL (Cruz'd to Victory - July 31, 2012)
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To: Hope for the Republic; wintertime

(pinging wintertime only because she would scream bloody murder that I mentioned her name and didn’t - FR protocol and all)

I wish I could help you out, but I can’t. You see I only pay attention to wintertime’s rants when I’m on FR, when I’m not reading here I don’t give a rip what she has to say about anything - and most especially about public schools.

I truly despise hypocrites and she is the epitome of the word. Home schooling was only good enough for her when it was convenient - she had no qualms about sending her kids to public school when it suited her purposes.


28 posted on 08/11/2012 6:19:37 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Hope for the Republic
studies that rely on standardized tests to illustrate either success or failure are useless for children that are homeschooled. Since many states do not require tests, any student that does take one enters a ‘self-selective’ group. This invalidates any number of studies.

Not to mention very few people here on FR are capable of understanding what these scores actually mean. For instance - there is a study from 1999 that shows that HS students scored an average of 511 on the SAT math, compared to a 504 for PS - big deal? hardly since the standard deviation is about 16 points. I've actually attempted to explain this and many other aspects of statistics and to be honest, either people are dumb or blind. I gave up Homeschooling success is largely anecdotal - I mean, if your kid sucks you are hardly going to brag about it are you? However, the good, the bad, the ugly are all display for PS kids.

FWIW

29 posted on 08/11/2012 6:24:37 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Jay Redhawk
Well.....I don't subscribe to the “Fight Club” philosophy of raising children.

But...Hey! That is why I support privatization of K-12 education. You should be completely free to choose the educational philosophy that most closely suits your children's needs.

Somehow, though, my ( oh so sheltered) homeschooled kids graduated from college, are married, with children, regular church attenders, volunteers in the community, faithful voters, and responsible in every way.

One was a nationally and internationally ranked athlete and represented the U.S. worldwide, worked for several years for our church in Eastern Europe and returned to the states completely fluent in Russian, earned a masters degree in accounting, has a high paying professional position in an accounting firm, and is now taking his CPA exams.

The other two graduated with B.S. degrees in mathematics at the ages of 18. One was teaching college students as part of her masters program at the age of 18 and finished her masters degree at the age of 20.

30 posted on 08/11/2012 6:25:43 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime

“Well...If bullying soooooo good then why do adults get millions awarded to them in court, perps sent to prison, professionals lose their licenses and sued for malpractice, and business given huge fines for the same type of physical and emotional harassment?”

I have to agree there - I’ve been working now for DECADES and I’ve NEVER dealt with a bully on the job, not even close - and I did have to deal with that through 8th grade. There’s NOTHING good that comes from bullying a kid.


31 posted on 08/11/2012 6:26:41 PM PDT by BobL (Cruz'd to Victory - July 31, 2012)
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To: wintertime

Kids reporting bullies will just get in trouble, and become targets for the bullies.


32 posted on 08/11/2012 6:29:56 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Gabz
Myself, I largely stopped caring what many people here say about anything - paying attention to ranters makes them think that there is some importance attached to their ramblings.

I'm proud of my two girls who were 100% publically school educated - and you are proud of your daughter. As we should be.

BTW, Nat assisted in her first surgery on her third day of medical school. After the surgery was over, the doctor looked at her funny and said 'You really aren't a first year are you?" When told she was, the doctor gave her a phone number and told her to call her to discuss mentoring and told her she would be a great surgeon.

Boo-yah!

33 posted on 08/11/2012 6:30:24 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: BobL
Google, "Bullying in the work place" and you will see hundreds of thousands of links that say in essence most people have either seen bullying in the work place, been a part of it, or been a victim.

Myself, I have experienced it on many levels over the years.

34 posted on 08/11/2012 6:33:12 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: BobL; Hope for the Republic
We’re used to that treatment...but our results speak for themselves - there is no debate - that was settled at least a decade ago.
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Indeed....There should be dozens of studies by now, but there aren't. And...Likely the reason they haven't been done is that homeschoolers would blindingly outshine the socialist-entitlement institutionalized children.

Also...NEVER done by the education socialist-entitlement establishment is the effect of **afterschooling** and **preschooling** done by the parents, the child doing homework and projects, and paid and unpaid tutoring. If they did do these studies it would likely show that government schools teach nothing ( really I am serious) and it is the parents, child, and tutors who are doing all the real work IN THE HOME!

If these studies were ever done we would learn that the only thing government schools do is send home a very expensive curriculum for the parents to following in the home.

35 posted on 08/11/2012 6:34:08 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: SoftballMominVA; BobL
Google, “Bullying in the work place” and you will see hundreds of thousands of links that say in essence most people have either seen bullying in the work place, been a part of it, or been a victim.
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There is a difference between adults and children.

Children trapped in a bullying situation are abandoned by their parents, teachers, and the police enforced law. Then we wonder why some children have that 20 degree off centered stare, answer in mumbles, and have a “generation gap” attitude. (Something I have **never** seen in homeschooled children who have been homeschooled from an early age. )

Ah! .....But the difference with and adult iis that they are not trapped by LAW and threat of armed police action to remain in the abusive situation. They do have options. They can find new work. They file a suit. They can move. They can press criminal charges.

36 posted on 08/11/2012 6:41:22 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: SoftballMominVA

“Google, “Bullying in the work place” and you will see hundreds of thousands of links that say in essence most people have either seen bullying in the work place, been a part of it, or been a victim...Myself, I have experienced it on many levels over the years.”

Maybe you, but not me...but perhaps the people that work with me want to keep their jobs, and thus know better.


37 posted on 08/11/2012 6:42:38 PM PDT by BobL (Cruz'd to Victory - July 31, 2012)
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To: BobL
I have to agree there - I’ve been working now for DECADES and I’ve NEVER dealt with a bully on the job, not even close
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My experience as well, and I have been working since I was 17. I am now retired and in my sixties.

38 posted on 08/11/2012 6:44:13 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime

Yep, I think we all know that studies are done when there is AN OBJECTIVE to be had. Showing how home schoolers run circles around institutionalized kids is not the kind of objective desired by Big Education.


39 posted on 08/11/2012 6:44:24 PM PDT by BobL (Cruz'd to Victory - July 31, 2012)
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To: wintertime

0bama, H0lder and Big Sis are bullies.


40 posted on 08/11/2012 6:55:19 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: wintertime
I am happy for your kids. Working toward the privatization of K-12 is an idea I support whole heartily, but there will still be bullies that go unchecked. Even the best administrators can be slow to catch on to what a bully may be doing, therefore, kids need to know how to deal with them.

By the way, the government will destroy the private school system also if people don't take a stand.

41 posted on 08/11/2012 7:02:04 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: BobL

I’ve witnessed it more times than I can even count - been victim? not for many, many years. Been the bully? I hope not


42 posted on 08/11/2012 7:02:38 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Jay Redhawk
Even the best administrators can be slow to catch on to what a bully may be doing, therefore, kids need to know how to deal with them.
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I completely agree with your post except for one point.

One of the best ways to see how to handle conflict, which is a normal part of living, is to watch their parents in the real life situations of daily living. Homeschoolers have their parents, and other trusted adults, as models, not packs of immature age segregated children.

43 posted on 08/11/2012 7:11:32 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: BobL
“I have to agree there - I’ve been working now for DECADES and I’ve NEVER dealt with a bully on the job, not even close - and I did have to deal with that through 8th grade. There’s NOTHING good that comes from bullying a kid.”

I would say that the fact that you learned to deal with bullies when you were young is exactly why you have not had to deal with them later in life. Give yourself the credit because somehow bullies must see that you are not to be messed with.

44 posted on 08/11/2012 7:14:37 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: SoftballMominVA
BTW, Nat assisted in her first surgery on her third day of medical school. After the surgery was over, the doctor looked at her funny and said ‘You really aren't a first year are you?” When told she was, the doctor gave her a phone number and told her to call her to discuss mentoring and told her she would be a great surgeon.
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Did you really mean to type third **day** of medical school??? Really? “Day?” Did you possibly mean third **year**???

Did your daughter have some sort of specialized operating room training and experience prior to medical school? But...Even then, I would doubt that she would be specially singled out from an entire medical school class ( or have the time) to scrub up to be an assistant to a surgeon. I am completely amazed that the hospital would allow her to do it given the malpractice aspects of the situation.

Honestly, if “day “ is what you mean then something is seriously wrong with this story. While it is possible ( although unlikely) for a third **day** medical student to be a distant observer in an operating room, NO NO NO responsible surgeon would let a person with no training whatsoever to get so close to an operation site that she would be assisting with anything.

First year medical students are busy enough just finding their way to the bookstore to get their books and supplies, locating their labs their classrooms, and adjusting to memorizing up to 2000 pages a week of dense scientific text ( no I am not exaggerating) to be preparing to assist at any surgery. To get anywhere near an operating room table in the form of an assistant would take weeks of specialized training in that one topic.

Perhaps, you should clarify this with your daughter before mentioning the story to others.

45 posted on 08/11/2012 7:30:42 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime

Forgot to tell you - my public school educated child is already fluent in Japanese. Also will be starting French 3 next month.

Now - you need to remind everyone how much time your alleged prodigies (those sheltered home schooled prodigies) spent in public schools when it suited you.....

I am so sick and tired of your better than thou attitude. Get over yourself - you’re no better than any of us, no matter what you think.


46 posted on 08/11/2012 7:31:10 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

OMG - That is wonderful!!!!! Big hugs and kisses to Nat from me and Jax!

Like you, I don’t pay much attention to this crapola - I’m only here because I’ve had the hiccups for the past hour and there is no way I can go to sleep until I get rid of them.


47 posted on 08/11/2012 7:37:23 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: wintertime
If these studies were ever done we would learn that the only thing government schools do is send home a very expensive curriculum for the parents to following in the home.

Do the study or quit your whining about it not having been done.

No home schooler I know, and I know plenty, are as whiny and nasty and vicious as you are. I don't know how many times I've told you this in the past, but I will say it yet again - you do more damage than good for the furtherance of home schooling.

I am seriously starting to wonder if you need professional help. I pray for your sanity as you seem to be on the brink.

48 posted on 08/11/2012 7:47:49 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz
I am so sick and tired of your better than thou attitude.
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Stating the facts is no being “better than thou”. They were merely normal homeschoolers. As Freepers drive by their local socialist-entitlement government high school indoctrination camp they should remember that the top 10% in that school could be finished with college by the age of 18 and not languishing away their lives like over ripe tomatoes in the hot house kiddieland of high school.

And...No, my children were not prodigies.

My children are normally bright people and not any smarter or more talented than the children of any poster here on Free Republic. They were simply homeschooled and, for homeschoolers, quite average.

Hey! Unlike some homeschoolers they didn't go to Ivy League schools and they did write best sellers at the age of 15 that have been made into blockbuster movies. They weren't teenage millionaire executives of businesses they started in their garage. They didn't win any spelling or geography contests.

As for my being a hypocrite:

I bet you have never changed you mind about a single thing in 42 years of living. That is my guess. ( No sarcasm tag.)

And...Yep! I did use the government schools for babysitting for a few weeks out of their tender lives as homeschoolers. Imagine that! I exposed them to the toxic waste of godless government schooling for a few **weeks**. Mea Culpa! ( Right hand striking my breast.) My kids did survive my foolishness.

49 posted on 08/11/2012 7:48:05 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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Keep FR Running
Fight back.
Counter the MSM spin machine.

50 posted on 08/11/2012 7:50:37 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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