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Obama Team Salivates Over Ryan Pick (Mr. Obamatax: Ryan wants to raise taxes on the middle class!)
National Journal ^ | August 11, 2012 | Major Garrett

Posted on 08/11/2012 7:01:17 PM PDT by Qbert

Whether it's true or not, senior advisers to President Obama's re-election campaign believed, long before presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney picked Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan as his running mate, that Romney had been oddly and helpfully "collaborative" in making the Obama case against him.

That's the word David Axelrod used in an interview with National Journal to describe Romney's unwillingness to pitch a strong national narrative about his life, his plans for the nation or how he understood the economic travails of the middle class. Axelrod found Romney's dug-in refusal to release more tax returns (only 2010 so far, with 2011 coming) similarly helpful. Axelrod even thought Romney's overseas trip helped Obama reinforce a not-quite-ready-for-prime-time meme.

From team Obama's perspective, the Ryan choice transforms this imagined and perceived collaboration into a virtual partnership. "It plays right into it," a senior Obama strategist told National Journal. "Romney believes in cutting taxes for the wealthy and making the middle class pay for them. Ryan not only believes it, but he's actually done it. It's Romney's agenda in action."

Obama aides had been convinced that Romney would settle on former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty. Again, fevered perceptions of rival campaign weaknesses are just that. But they now believe Romney has used his biggest choice of the campaign to drive home their central indictment of his candidacy and his policies -- that they pose a threat to middle-class livelihoods and aspirations.

One Obama backer privately said -- not the least bit in jest -- that the campaign could now siphon off cash donations for margarita machines, because there was so much to celebrate between now and Election Day.

Another Democratic operative declared the election effectively over -- that Ryan was the self-hammered nail in Romney's own coffin.

"They chose a candidate who is 42, but looks 22, and is a professional Washington politician," said Democratic strategist Chris Kofinis, a top adviser to John Edwards' 2008 campaign and former chief of staff to Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va. "He helps Romney with not a single state, not a single demographic and he won't turn a single undecided vote around. He also destroys Romney's argument that professional Washington insiders and politicians aren't qualified to govern. He's a disastrous pick that proves the Romney and Republicans are stuck in some kind of time capsule where they think they can win elections by debating obscure conservative theory."

Obama advisers also see Ryan's presence on the ticket as a way to drive home Obama's most successful TV ad of the campaign, according to copious internal focus group surveys in swing states. It's the one where Obama speaks straight to camera and says the "choice" in the election is about direction and priorities -- his versus Romney's and the latter's resemblance to the Bush era.

Top Obama advisers have been looking for a way to entice rank-and-file Democrats down ballot to adopt that rhetoric as their own, thereby creating a party-wide echo chamber throbbing with "choice" speeches so as to drown out Romney's attempt to win the White House through a throw-out the incumbent referendum pitch.  

Since House and Senate Democrats are already well-schooled in criticizing Ryan and his budget (they've done so two years in a row), Team Obama now sees a new opportunity for synergy -- Obama and fellow Democrats for the first this campaign genuinely (as opposed to reluctantly and robotically) singing out of the same songbook.

The assessment in Chicago is that Ryan on the ticket gives Obama and any Democrat who cares to (many is the guess) a perfect opportunity to denounce tax cuts for the wealthy and a fundamental alteration of Medicare.

The charge that GOP-backed tax cuts for the rich and cuts to Medicare hobbled the Newt Gingrich-led Republican Revolution (at least as it related to the government shutdown with President Clinton), and Obama senior advisers believe it will work more effectively now. Why? Because middle-class anxiety is more pronounced and visceral. In essence, Obama's entire campaign to date has been aimed at taking economic doubts and worry -- which Romney has tried to pin on Obama -- and increasing them by portraying the GOP nominee as a predatory capitalist indifferent to middle class suffering. They now believe Ryan gives them a contemporary policy toehold in Washington to take that argument from the distant past (Bain Capital) and make it a cutting issue in Romney and Ryan's present-day campaign.

Which is why Obama's senior ranks see Ryan as a gift, and a choice one at that.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2012veep; axelrod; demagoguery; obama; paulryan

1 posted on 08/11/2012 7:01:28 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

I never realized Major Garrett was such a liberal hack until he joined national journal. At fox, frankly, I didnt know where he fell on the spectrum. He always seemed fair and reasonable.


2 posted on 08/11/2012 7:04:47 PM PDT by ilgipper ( November cannot come soon enough)
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To: Qbert
“Obama speaks straight to camera and says the “choice” in the election is about direction and priorities — his versus Romney's and the latter’s resemblance to the Bush era.”

This is why the Bush-Rove approach of never answering criticisms, and letting the Obamanians blame everything on Bush without being refuted was wrong. If you don't deal with it when it starts, it continues to be used.

3 posted on 08/11/2012 7:07:12 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Qbert
6 of our guys were murdered this week and Axelrod and the democrats can't find a minute to speak about their service and sacrifice. No words from the press, no troop count to date, nothing.
It's like they never existed.
4 posted on 08/11/2012 7:11:29 PM PDT by reefdiver (Shoeless John Roberts, An American Tragedy.)
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To: Qbert
I don't know what this guys problem is, but I like Ryan. We need good heads and strong shoulders right now. Oboma literally trashed this country and turned it into a Chicago style ghetto. We need strong leaders to rebuild it.
5 posted on 08/11/2012 7:12:12 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Qbert

Obama and the Rats must be forgetting about the $500 BILLION they already gutted from Medicare.


6 posted on 08/11/2012 7:12:46 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Qbert

I think the democrats will come to regret trying
to swallow Ryan whole, they will choke to death
on him and it will serve them right.

There is too much joy in Mudville as yet.
The tears and anger will come later.


7 posted on 08/11/2012 7:13:56 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Qbert
Obama Team Salivates Over Ryan Pick

I don't know about salivating, but Harry Reid has been drooling for some time now, mostly on himself; and it's got nothing to do with Paul Ryan.

8 posted on 08/11/2012 7:17:19 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Qbert

If I were Romney and Ryan, I would respond with budget crticism this way:

When President Obama gets a budget passed through Congress, I might accept criticism from Democrats and the press on our budget proposal.


9 posted on 08/11/2012 7:17:54 PM PDT by RatRipper (Obama, YOU LIE!!! . . .again and again and again and again, ad infinitum. . . .)
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To: Qbert

Whatever you say, Br’er Rabbit.


10 posted on 08/11/2012 7:18:09 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Qbert

Zero is running his reelection campaign as effectively as he ran the economy


11 posted on 08/11/2012 7:18:56 PM PDT by daku
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

"This is why the Bush-Rove approach of never answering criticisms, and letting the Obamanians blame everything on Bush without being refuted was wrong. If you don't deal with it when it starts, it continues to be used."

Yep. And what's just as bad: letting Obama frame the terms of the debate ("Obama wants to help the middle class", "Romney's plan will increase taxes on the middle class to benefit the top 1%", etc.) Words are extremely important to the leftists- it's crucial to pay close attention to what they're really saying and emphasizing, and to attack them head on.

12 posted on 08/11/2012 7:20:54 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: KansasGirl
Obama and the Rats must be forgetting about the $500 BILLION they already gutted from Medicare.

My gut tells me the left is terrified of this guy. He's a straight talker, and people understand him. He took Oboma out on Obomacare in 6 minutes!This guy is good.

I believe what he has to say will be heard, and people will like his message.
Conservatism always wins when used, and it'll win now more than ever. People fear for their country, and they need strong leadership right now to fix it.

I believe their gaiety is manufactured. They're trying to excite their base, but once Ryan starts getting voters attention, they're going to be squealing like pigs.

13 posted on 08/11/2012 7:23:52 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: ilgipper

The fact that Barry is spending 3 days in Iowa (a state he won by 9.5% in 2008) this week tells you all you need to know. This article is a 100% fairy tale. Game on.


14 posted on 08/11/2012 7:24:12 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Qbert
"They chose a candidate who is 42, but looks 22, and is a professional Washington politician," said Democratic strategist Chris Kofinis, a top adviser to John Edwards' 2008 campaign and former chief of staff to Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va. "He helps Romney with not a single state, not a single demographic and he won't turn a single undecided vote around. He also destroys Romney's argument that professional Washington insiders and politicians aren't qualified to govern. He's a disastrous pick that proves the Romney and Republicans are stuck in some kind of time capsule where they think they can win elections by debating obscure conservative theory."

"Chris Kofinis, a top adviser to John Edwards' 2008 campaign..."

Yeah, Chris worked for the Breck Girl. Listen to Chris, the genius.

15 posted on 08/11/2012 7:25:20 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Qbert
"Ryan on the ticket gives Obama and any Democrat who cares to (many is the guess) a perfect opportunity to denounce tax cuts for the wealthy job creators and a fundamental alteration of saving Medicare. "

All in how it's played of course, but I don't think Obama has any thing to gain from any focus on the budget or economy.
He hopes to stick to marriage for pervs and freebies for sluts. Those are his winning issues and the media loves them.

16 posted on 08/11/2012 7:30:16 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Qbert

Yeah, whistling past the graveyard. Anybody to the right of Castro is an extremist to the establishmedia.

Pray for America


17 posted on 08/11/2012 7:31:24 PM PDT by bray (Take out the commies in November!)
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To: Qbert

Carter salivated over Reagan, Gore and Kerry salivated over Bush.....


18 posted on 08/11/2012 7:32:27 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama does not have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: Qbert

“Obama Team Salivates Over Ryan Pick”

Excess salivation often preceeds puking.


19 posted on 08/11/2012 7:37:04 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Correct. The basis of Axelrod-Rahm-Obama-Chicago politics is to define your opponent. So far, Romney has made no attempt to define himself. The Chicago boys define Romney. Now they will define Ryan unless the GOP strategists get smart.

Ryan has the right message. His problem is that it is a long, complicated message. His audience, the swing voters, are ignorant of economics. They don’t know the difference between the deficit and debt, etc. So we need two parallel efforts.
1. Ryan needs sound bytes that sell.
2. Conservative non-profit educational groups need to target swing voters with educational messages on economics.

Groups like Heritage do us a disservice to advertise on Hannity and talk radio. They should advertise on sports and country stations where the swing voters are that we can attract. The reason so many are ignorant on economics is not just that the academics are leftist. It is also that we spend too much time and money preaching to the choir.


20 posted on 08/11/2012 7:38:07 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Qbert

The only veep pick the Dems would have liked is Noam Chomsky.


21 posted on 08/11/2012 7:38:15 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: KansasGirl

"Obama and the Rats must be forgetting about the $500 BILLION they already gutted from Medicare."

Yep. If they want to open up that can of worms it won't be very pleasant for them...

22 posted on 08/11/2012 7:40:23 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: MuttTheHoople
"Carter"

I remember the same quotes from Dems about how they were ecstatic when Reagan was nominated.

23 posted on 08/11/2012 7:40:29 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: mrsmith
He hopes to stick to marriage for pervs and freebies for sluts. Those are his winning issues and the media loves them.

And the American voters don't give a crap about either one of those two groups. In fact, most people wish they would just go away.

Yeah. I think we're going to do well in November.

24 posted on 08/11/2012 7:40:35 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Qbert

Oh heck, that’s just lib drool. They all do it, all the time.


25 posted on 08/11/2012 7:44:04 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Qbert

My guess is the Obama team has been throwing up all day.


26 posted on 08/11/2012 7:45:33 PM PDT by stevem
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To: spintreebob
“They don’t know the difference between the deficit and debt, etc. So we need two parallel efforts.”

I agree, but this doesn't seem so difficult to fix. People understand what a household budget is, and that you can have weekly, monthly, or even annual budgets for your household. They also understand that if you go over budget you run a deficit.

It just needs to be pointed out in straightforward terms that every minute, of every hour, of every day, of every week, for the entire year, for every year he's been in office, Obama has spent way more than the government had, and that he didn't even bother to make a budget to follow. It's pretty easy to make this case in a way that is compelling.

27 posted on 08/11/2012 7:49:05 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: MuttTheHoople

and had it been Romney/Rubio or Romney/Portman we would’ve heard the same crap from the a$$-clowns who have Joe Biden as their VP...


28 posted on 08/11/2012 8:01:39 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Democrats salivate as much as my 16 year old cat.


29 posted on 08/11/2012 8:12:32 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Qbert

UH Huh....just keep talking that way you commies....Ameria is waking up to your lies....you’ll be drooling in NOVEMBER....like babies...and they’ll need a diaper change too


30 posted on 08/11/2012 8:34:54 PM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: concerned about politics
My gut tells me the left is terrified of this guy. He's a straight talker, and people understand him. He took Oboma out on Obomacare in 6 minutes!This guy is good.

Besides his message and intellect, he's a hunk with a pretty wife and adorable children. Barry is bummed indeed. :)
31 posted on 08/11/2012 9:08:28 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: reefdiver

I have several kinfolk that are active duty. I can tell you how they feel about Obama and his administration. And if Zero was to attempt to impose some kind of martial law it’d be one hell of a party. Just wouldn’t last long...


32 posted on 08/11/2012 9:34:11 PM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Qbert

No big deal, they drool on the bus windows too....


33 posted on 08/11/2012 9:36:25 PM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Qbert

Obama knows one way, and one way only to deal with problems. Throw money at them. When it comes to understanding the economy and how to get America back on track, Obama isn’t in Paul Ryan’s league, the big leagues.


34 posted on 08/11/2012 10:09:06 PM PDT by pallis
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

You might underestimate how difficult it is. Many do not have a clue what a family budget is...including my wife.

To give another example, many are confused about what it means to be rich. They see celebrities flaunting bling and think that spending a lot of money as proof of wealth. They don’t see shares of stock as wealth. For example, they think Bill Gates is wealthy because he has a fancy house. They see the government spend money and think that
is proof that the government is rich and has no problems.

What people who think like us don’t realize is that when “normal” people hear class warfare rhetoric, they interpret “rich” totally different from what we do.

The education can be done. But it won’t be easy. And it won’t be done by those who don’t understand the non-ideological voter, which is the swing voter.


35 posted on 08/11/2012 10:09:06 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Qbert

It’s easy pickin’s for Dims when you have a large section of the electorate that is economically ignorant and/or on the dole.


36 posted on 08/11/2012 10:19:08 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Qbert; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Cincinatus' Wife; Larry Lucido; ...
On behalf of Team Obama's Welcoming Committee, it's my privilege to present a laurel... and hearty handshake to Paul Ryan, another racist, right-wing, Teabagging, grandmaw tossing-over-the-cliff opponent of our Righteous Bros: Barack and Joe!
37 posted on 08/12/2012 2:20:55 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: ilgipper

Major Garrett showed his Liberalism a LOT in the last few years. He IS a hack.


38 posted on 08/12/2012 3:22:12 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Qbert

Are they salivating or wetting their pants?


39 posted on 08/12/2012 4:34:43 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: spintreebob
Yeah, you're right. I don't think it's because the concepts aren't straightforward. I think it's because, in part, we've been conditioned in our society to be lazy thinkers (no offense to your wife - who is obviously very bright).

I've had conversations with people about losing weight, and used the ‘balancing the checkbook’ analogy with them (spend more calories than you take in and you'll drain your fat account), and this concept comes as a surprise to them. It isn't that they can't understand. I don't have an answer.

40 posted on 08/12/2012 6:32:52 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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“Obama and the Rats must be forgetting about the $500 BILLION they already gutted from Medicare.”

Yep. If they want to open up that can of worms it won’t be very pleasant for them...

Correction: the CBO now says he gutted $741 BILLION from Medicare.


41 posted on 08/12/2012 7:46:23 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Ann Archy

[ Major Garrett showed his Liberalism a LOT in the last few years. He IS a hack. ]

The 2008 elction made that more than obvious. He acted as a full-time cheerleader for the Obama campaign and Democrats.


42 posted on 08/12/2012 7:48:12 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: spintreebob; windsorknot

YEP....I know two womyn...mother and daughter, who are in the midst of the sale of a 100 year old business (they just happen to be heirs). They are looking at about 60% in taxes....on, oh, about $2 million....and they WILL vote for Obama...YES, they are idiots.


43 posted on 08/12/2012 8:41:56 AM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: KansasGirl

No KIDDING!!! Garrett was a PRESS WHORE for OBAMA. Maybe that’s why he isn;t at Fox anymore.


44 posted on 08/12/2012 9:11:00 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ilgipper
I never realized Major Garrett was such a liberal hack until he joined national journal. At fox, frankly, I didnt know where he fell on the spectrum. He always seemed fair and reasonable.

He who eats my bread, sings my song.

45 posted on 08/12/2012 9:31:01 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1301 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle; goodnesswins

The obvious long range solution is changing our mis-educaton system. Short range, the Adelson type money and Hertiage/Cato/think tank type money needs to focus on quickly educating the swing voters. They are wasting their money preaching to the choir.


46 posted on 08/13/2012 6:37:16 PM PDT by spintreebob
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