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PICKET: Ryan's generation x-cellent
The Washington Times Water Cooler ^ | 8/11/12 | Kerry Picket

Posted on 08/11/2012 7:10:18 PM PDT by paltz

Born in 1970, Republican Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan is the first generation X’er to be on a national ticket. Since the 1990’s my fellow generation Xer’s have been an often overlooked group of individuals compared to the older and much larger generation of baby boomers and the World War II generation.

We’ve been called slackers, baby busters, cynical, skeptical, angry and indifferent among other descriptions. However, is this really the case now? Forty percent of generation X’ers are from families whose parents divorced. Many became known as “latch key children.”

The Bergen County Record reported in 1995:

More than any other generation, this one is skeptical and questioning, according to Raines and others. Unlike those who grew up in the Fifties and Sixties and were weaned on Donna Reed in the kitchen or even on the quasi-traditional lifestyle of "The Brady Bunch," twentysomethings have been exposed to diverse media images and role models, researchers say.

This generation questions authority, and itself.

At age 16, Paul Ryan lost his father, when his dad died at age 55 from a heart attack. Mr. Ryan obviously knows what it was like to grow up quickly and become independent.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012veep; babyboom; babyboomers; babybust; generationreagan; genreagan; genx; paulryan

1 posted on 08/11/2012 7:10:22 PM PDT by paltz
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To: paltz

FINALLY we are taking over. We need to clean up the mess of the Boomers big time.


2 posted on 08/11/2012 7:11:23 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: paltz

oy, I didn’t realize the little snot was younger than I am.


3 posted on 08/11/2012 7:12:41 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (At what point does an escalated effort to remove this traitor commence, and what form does it take?)
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To: napscoordinator

As the boomers die off in the coming decades, this rightward swing that started when they came of age during the 1980s, will end, and America will slide into total liberalism.


4 posted on 08/11/2012 7:26:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

I don’t kow about that. boomers are the biggest fans of the entitlement state. They were the first generation to be born and live through the golden age of social security when there was no threat of shortage. They embrace Medicare as we know it. Younger generations mostly accept that they’ll never see a penny from it.


5 posted on 08/11/2012 7:33:37 PM PDT by ilgipper ( November cannot come soon enough)
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To: ansel12

I don’t kow about that. boomers are the biggest fans of the entitlement state. They were the first generation to be born and live through the golden age of social security when there was no threat of shortage. They embrace Medicare as we know it. Younger generations mostly accept that they’ll never see a penny from SS.


6 posted on 08/11/2012 7:33:50 PM PDT by ilgipper ( November cannot come soon enough)
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To: napscoordinator
FINALLY we are taking over. We need to clean up the mess of the Boomers big time.

Damn straight. The most spoiled generation in history has turned a great country into a stumbling clusterf@*&.

7 posted on 08/11/2012 7:36:07 PM PDT by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: paltz

Yup, I’m from the tail end of the baby boomers....a “has been” or a “never wuz”.


8 posted on 08/11/2012 7:44:27 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: ilgipper
The biggest lovers of it created it.

If you look at America, the radical, permanent, fatal gains of the left, were made from roughly 1935 to 1975, in fact since the boomers came of leadership age in America, the left has ceased making the type of advance they did during that period, and some things have even been rolled back like welfare and guns, unfortunately the 1965 immigration act put a poison bullet into America's heart, blocking change and writing an unavoidable future.

A lot of people associate boomers with the 1960s, but actually they were children mostly, the first election that all boomers could vote in for president, was in 1984, the first year that the oldest boomer reached Paul Ryans age was in 1987, boomer Sarah Palin was only 23 that year. The boomers could not undo everything the left had accomplished over 50 to 60 years, even if they wanted to, but the next generations won't even come close to trying, remember that boomers have always been pretty conservative, with 52% of the under 30 vote voting for Nixon in 1972, in 2008, McCain won 34% of that age group. We all know where we are heading as the older people die off, it isn't going to get better, it will get worse, already all this rino, move left stuff, is to win the younger voters, not the older ones.

9 posted on 08/11/2012 8:02:52 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: All

I’m the offspring of boomers, and my role models are people such as Richard Marcinko, Orson Scott Card and the British metal band Iron Maiden.

I can’t begin to explain how glad I am that I managed to escape the black hole that is modern pop culture.


10 posted on 08/11/2012 8:29:31 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: ansel12; qam1
As the boomers die off in the coming decades, this rightward swing that started when they came of age during the 1980s, will end, and America will slide into total liberalism.

"Generation X" (which came from a book title in the 90s but was an already existing, unrelated title of another book in in 1965 NOT about 'this' generation) is also known as Gen-Reagan or Generation Reagan, having grown up and started college during the two terms of Ronald Reagan with older members of this window of declined birthrate also remembering the failed presidential policies of Jimmy Carter.

11 posted on 08/11/2012 8:39:06 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Actually the boomers are the Reagan generation, Reagan was the first president that all boomers were old enough to vote for, that was the election of 1984, they manned his military and attended college under him, they started entering politics under him. The 1980s is when the boomers started emerging.


12 posted on 08/11/2012 9:23:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12
Sorry, no. The first of the boomers would be eligible to vote in 1965. The supermajority of the boomers would have been able to vote by 1975. By 1957 the Baby Boom was on the way out.

United States birth rate (births per 1000 population

13 posted on 08/11/2012 9:51:38 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

No, the “boomers” are the generation born from 1946 to 1964, followed by generation X starting in 1965.

The first presidential election that all the boomers could vote in was 1984 to reelect Reagan.

Lets not have one of those silly, time consuming niche, or personalized definitions of boomer.

The common definition, the government definition, the Census Bureau definition, the one used by banking and corporations , and everyone in America that needs to share a common definition, uses 1946-1964.


14 posted on 08/11/2012 10:08:37 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

So you are claiming that the boomers didn’t have any effect whatsoever in the elections from 1965 to 1979 and they only ever began to have relevance with Reagan.

Yeah, that would be NO. The supermajority of the Boomers were able to vote by 75 and they weighed in heavily in Carter’s election. 49% of the older Boomers (then age 30-44) voted for CARTER in 1976 (and 49% went for Ford). The younger boomers were even WORSE. 18-22’s went 51/46 for Carter. The pre-boomers went 47/52 for Ford.

Sorry dude. The first Boomer president was CARTER.


15 posted on 08/11/2012 10:49:28 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Correction - it was the 22-29yo Boomers that went for Carter 51/46.


16 posted on 08/11/2012 10:50:58 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

You are rambling, I never said any such thing, read my posts for instance the 1972 vote.

I don’t know what 1965 election you keep talking about, but no boomer could vote in a presidential election until 2 years worth in 1968.

I also said that the first election in which all boomers, the Reagan generation, were old enough to vote for president was in 1984.


17 posted on 08/11/2012 10:58:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: paltz


18 posted on 08/12/2012 12:04:34 AM PDT by RaceBannon (I wont vote for a gay marriage marxist gun grabber, or vote for Obama, either)
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To: paltz

I’ve always considered myself to be of the Reagan Generation. What is this X stuff?


19 posted on 08/12/2012 12:09:45 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: ansel12

The Boomers were Woodstock Nation with their oldest ranks turning 24 in 1969.


20 posted on 08/12/2012 6:25:21 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
oy, I didn’t realize the little snot was younger than I am.

He's 15 days older than me.

21 posted on 08/12/2012 11:45:55 AM PDT by America_Right (Remember, Republicans have a lot more in common with Democrats than they do with Tea Partiers.)
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To: a fool in paradise

That doesn’t mean anything, it was the last year of the 1960s and Boomer Sarah Palin was 5 years old and the oldest boomer was 24.

Now which generation fits that age group for 2009?

Did anyone even notice the 5-24 year olds of 2009 as being important or significant for anything besides their music, or other things that kids do? The generation that was age 5 to 24 in 2009 will never be seen as the congress, president, senate, state legislatures, mayors, supreme court, the military establishment, the news media, Hollywood, the book publishing industry, the university leadership, and everything else of the adult world of their time, they will not even be associated with the 2000s except in regards to kids pop culture and such, but not the running of the nation and it’s institutions.

Ronald Reagan was the first president that all the boomers could vote for, that was the in 1984 election, he was their president as they were emerging into society and adulthood they were the last great military generation, their service approaches 10,000,000, boomers filled his military ranks, it was boomers that filled the ranks of the Airborne Rangers parachuting in to take Grenada. In 1980, boomers filled all of the colleges.

In 1980 boomers ranged from age 15 to 34, still too young to be leading America, but during the next 8 years they would start making their way into leadership as management, congressmen, administrators, judges, Mayors and so on, which is the natural emergence of a generation as it starts taking over the reigns of power and leadership.

The boomers today are the generation being replaced, since they are at the natural prime of true power, age 47-66.
They are well on their way to being replaced by the generation that followed them, like the 41 year old Paul Ryan.

My point is, that the next 30 years won’t be nearly as good for conservatives as the era of 1980-2010, which was the last effective attempt to roll back the radical lefts takeover of America from the 1930s to the late 1970s, although that was impossible, because the left made too many permanent, poison bullet changes that sealed the future and could never be undone, nonetheless, that era will someday be remembered for many incredible victories, like welfare reform and resurrecting the Second Amendment.

We will continue to win some, but at the end of this next 30 years, 1980 to 2010 (or 2020) will become a period seen
as the great resurgence of conservatism in America, as strange as that may sound right now, as we are having to live through this mess, history will see it differently when they look at the chart of the successful, radical, powerful, enduring gains by the left over the period of the 1930s through the 2040s, and the graph reveals the slump of big bomb legislation, and even some substantial retreats that the left suffered during those decades.


22 posted on 08/12/2012 2:02:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

Boomers came of age in the late 60s, my parents are boomers and both recently retired. Sadly, my dad sounds like an MSNBC parrot.


23 posted on 08/12/2012 2:34:51 PM PDT by Marie Antoinette (:)
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To: Marie Antoinette

Not really, Sarah Palin for instance, born in 1964, and Obama born in 1961, or a boomer born in 1954 or 1958, could not be said to be coming of age in the 1960s.


24 posted on 08/12/2012 2:52:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

Perhaps your error in judgment is lumping 1964 into the Baby Boom.


25 posted on 08/13/2012 7:14:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: a fool in paradise
1964 is a boomer year, gen X starts in 1965.

http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/facts_for_features_special_editions/cb06-ffse01-2.html "In 2006, the oldest of the baby boomers, the generation born between 1946 and 1964, will turn 60 years old. Among the Americans celebrating their 60th will be our two most recent presidents, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton. Other well-known celebrities reaching this milestone include Cher, Donald Trump, Sylvester Stallone and Dolly Parton. To commemorate this occasion, the Census Bureau has compiled a collection of facts relating to, perhaps, our most celebrated generation."

26 posted on 08/13/2012 7:59:30 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

I can show you crap on the internet that says Gen-X starts in 1966 and even 1967.

General consensus is somewhere between 1962-1964 and ending around 1980.


27 posted on 08/13/2012 8:49:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Yes, you can find all kinds of”crap” on the internet, a vast collection of various individual definitions and niche definitions, if there is no definition, then there is no discussion, you are right about Gen X though, it isn’t well defined yet, but boomer is.

As you can see, the most accepted definition of boomer is the government’s, 1946-1964, it is the one used in all real discussion of the generation by the census bureau, congress, the GAO, and the large elements of the private sector that need to use a definition that agrees with all of the massive governmental agencies and policies, and research and data collection, Gen X seems to be less pinned down, but boomers are very well defined.


28 posted on 08/13/2012 9:02:53 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12
The boom had stopped booming. Where you slice the "beginning" of the "bust" is open to interpretation.

You refuse to call 18-year olds and even 35 year olds adults. You slice it at 1984 before "the Baby Boom came of age".

I guess the 1970s were all a bad dream.


29 posted on 08/13/2012 9:24:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Argue with the government and society at large if you want to redefine boomer, don’t waste my time with your nonsense.


30 posted on 08/13/2012 9:34:08 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

You are the one spinning Boomers as not reaching adulthood into 1984. Gen-X was already reaching adulthood then.

You spin that the Baby Boom lasted until December 1964. I’ve heard it reported as 1962 since 1992.

Buh Bye from one of Gen-Reagan.


31 posted on 08/13/2012 10:54:05 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Here is what I said, I was not saying that none of them became adults until 1984, I was trying to say that the generation was emerging into power and it's place in society and leadership, although many did literally reach adulthood under Reagan.

“Ronald Reagan was the first president that all the boomers could vote for, that was the in 1984 election, he was their president as they were emerging into society and adulthood they were the last great military generation, their service approaches 10,000,000, boomers filled his military ranks, it was boomers that filled the ranks of the Airborne Rangers parachuting in to take Grenada. In 1980, boomers filled all of the colleges.

In 1980 boomers ranged from age 15 to 34, still too young to be leading America, but during the next 8 years they would start making their way into leadership as management, congressmen, administrators, judges, Mayors and so on, which is the natural emergence of a generation as it starts taking over the reigns of power and leadership.

The boomers today are the generation being replaced, since they are at the natural prime of true power, age 47-66.
They are well on their way to being replaced by the generation that followed them, like the 41 year old Paul Ryan.”

32 posted on 08/13/2012 11:15:09 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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