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U.S. Democratic Jews: Choice of Ryan as VP shows Romney doesn't reflect Jewish values
Haaretz Daily ^ | August 12, 2012 | by Natasha Mozgovaya

Posted on 08/12/2012 8:33:52 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Mitt Romney's choice of Paul Ryan as vice presidential candidate shows that the Republic presumptive nominee for president does not reflect the values of U.S. Jews, a statement by the National Jewish Democratic Council (NJDC) said on Sunday.

On Sunday, the NJDC released a statement in response to Romney's pick of Ryan, saying the moves was the clearest indication yet that Romney does not reflect the values of most American Jews."

"Ryan's signature budget plan drew the profound concern and even ire of many in the American Jewish community because of its plans to end Medicare as we know it, slash vital social safety net programs, and increase the burden on seniors, the middle class, and the poor -- yet Romney today proudly hitched his horse to Ryan's dangerous plan," the statement added.

The NJDC also said that what named an "alarming partnership" between Romney and Ryan "will further reinforce the reasons why such a significant majority of American Jews will be voting to reelect President Barack Obama this November."

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2012; jews; njdc
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1 posted on 08/12/2012 8:33:59 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Even as Obama loots Wall St., they’ll be voting Democrat till they die. Not too bright.


2 posted on 08/12/2012 8:36:13 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What “values” of Jews would we be talking about?

Their support for communists?


3 posted on 08/12/2012 8:36:39 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Barf. Straight from the DNC propaganda machine.


4 posted on 08/12/2012 8:36:43 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Willard should have chosen Barney Frank. He has alot more in common with him than Paul Ryan.


5 posted on 08/12/2012 8:37:47 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You have to pay to read it, or at least sign in.

There is no way this pick is against Torah values. If they are saying that the pick is against what Democrats believe in, GOOD. Dems are presiding over killing the goose because the golden eggs are getting smaller.


6 posted on 08/12/2012 8:39:52 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Values ?

Obamacare has just stolen a TRILLION DOLLARS

from Medicare to give to Illegal Aliens !


7 posted on 08/12/2012 8:40:51 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I used to care, but I have seen enough, and I no longer give a $hit what left-wing Jews think.


8 posted on 08/12/2012 8:41:10 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

re: “Ryan’s signature budget plan drew the profound concern and even ire of many in the American Jewish community because of its plans to end Medicare as we know it, slash vital social safety net programs, and increase the burden on seniors, the middle class, and the poor. . .”

Aside from the fact that the entire statment above is a total lie, just what Jewish values is this so-called “Jewish” organization defending? Governmental marxist dependency, supporting unsustainable government programs that are killing us financially and thus furthering that dependency, cutting ties to Israel, enabling Israel’s enemies to act with impunity, and disavowing Israel’s right to defend itself?? That’s what the democrat party advocates - I guess that’s what this group advocates as well.


9 posted on 08/12/2012 8:42:37 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“On Sunday, the NJDC released a statement in response to Romney’s pick of Ryan, saying the moves was the clearest indication yet that Romney does not reflect the values of most American Jews.”

If the Jews are upset, ............they can stay with “Recovery Summer” Joe.


10 posted on 08/12/2012 8:43:38 AM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now.)
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To: Ouderkirk

...and the stated goal of wiping Israel off the face of the map by the Islamofacists (supported by King Bozo Obtuse and his Regime) supports Jewish values how?


11 posted on 08/12/2012 8:46:35 AM PDT by Shady (The Tea Party is the Party of the American People, Working and creating wealth in SPITE of OBAMA!)
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To: EnglishOnly
“On Sunday, the NJDC released a statement in response to Romney’s pick of Ryan, saying the moves was the clearest indication yet that Romney does not reflect the values of most American Jews.”

Thank God.

12 posted on 08/12/2012 8:47:04 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: spodefly

Amen!


13 posted on 08/12/2012 8:47:12 AM PDT by ardara
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What a compliment!

US Dem Jew voting is schizophrenic and suicidal.

Thanks Again!

14 posted on 08/12/2012 8:48:06 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Ryan's signature budget plan drew the profound concern and even ire of many in the American Jewish community because of its plans to end Medicare as we know it, slash vital social safety net programs, and increase the burden on seniors, the middle class, and the poor -- yet Romney today proudly hitched his horse to Ryan's dangerous plan," the statement added.

This statement about profound concern is nonsense. The profound concern should be focused on the fiscal cliff we are facing as more and more money is being spent by Democrats without regard to need for income.

Any household, local government, or country cannot continue to spend money with no budget, print money, borrow money, and change the target for fair share to increase the burden on taxpayers.

That irresponsible strategy and policy works until we all experience economic collapse. What, me worry?

15 posted on 08/12/2012 8:48:30 AM PDT by olezip
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To: EnglishOnly

Natasha Mozgovaya does not speak for all Jews. No one elected Natasha to do anything.
After the election there will be a break down of who did what.

I can’t understand why anyone would vote for more of what that guy is serving


16 posted on 08/12/2012 8:51:15 AM PDT by reefdiver (Shoeless John Roberts, An American Tragedy.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

NJDC == A radical anti-Zionist front group.

They don’t even represent the values of most Jews who vote Democrat, let alone “Jewish values” historically understood.


17 posted on 08/12/2012 8:53:02 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

exactly what is teir vavlues, credit to the ones which follow their religion and they are our valuessocially but the average north eastern Jew coudln’t careless about Israel or being Jewish until it suits them.


18 posted on 08/12/2012 8:54:13 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: olezip

flicking through channels and saw on MSNBC their headline.

Ryan plan endmedicare as we know it.
The elderly will fall for the usual election crap of mediscare.


19 posted on 08/12/2012 8:58:45 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
plans to end Medicare as we know it, slash vital social safety net programs

This stuff is not sustainable.(period) So Jewish values must be to bankrupt the government and then lose these programs.

20 posted on 08/12/2012 8:59:33 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Boring!!!!

This “Jewish” group consists of a staff of 4-5 people some of which appear to be unpaid “interns”. This group is a joke! Nothing to them! Just another leftist PR group of Obama. They have “chapters” in 5 states. Maybe there are 25-50 people total involved.

They don’t even have ONE comment on this “story” on their site. So feel free to comment:)

https://www.njdc.org/blog/post/ryan081112


21 posted on 08/12/2012 9:01:01 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Democrat choice of Obama doesn't reflect American values.
22 posted on 08/12/2012 9:09:24 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I assume this is the “Israel is expendable” wing of the party...which used to be the “land for Arafat peace” wing.


23 posted on 08/12/2012 9:10:07 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I smell anti-Catholic bigotry in that statement.


24 posted on 08/12/2012 9:11:08 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
U.S. Democratic Jews...

U.S. Democratic Anti American Marxist Jews...

There, fixed it for ya.

25 posted on 08/12/2012 9:12:55 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Of course the White House celebration of Ramadan does. Give me a break. The Nazi collaborators are among the sheep.


26 posted on 08/12/2012 9:15:37 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I guess the democratic jews would rather get in bed with a closet muslim. Let’s see how that works out for them. The only life for a non-muslim (according to the muslims) is either death or slavery. Don’t sugar coat it, we all have witnessed it, we know it’s true, so why try to deny it? It’s US vs. them, who do you want to win?


27 posted on 08/12/2012 9:15:37 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

medicare as you know it is going to end someday anyhow because we are Freakkin broke you dumb ass...........


28 posted on 08/12/2012 9:18:12 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Romney isn’t Stalinist or anti Israel enough for Jewish Democrats.


29 posted on 08/12/2012 9:19:41 AM PDT by pallis
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To: txrefugee

Democrat Jews are just like the foolish Jews in Germany that believed Hitler would never do anything other then rant against the Jews. My friend, they are not only, not too bright, they are dumb as mules!!! In his evil heart, Obama hates every one of them!!! Go figure!!!


30 posted on 08/12/2012 9:27:06 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Ouderkirk

The Marx Branch.


31 posted on 08/12/2012 9:31:45 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
and their boy does??? please...
32 posted on 08/12/2012 9:31:45 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
does not reflect the values of U.S. Jews,

Because of the views in the Talmud, Jews are stuck with the selflessness-altruism paradigm and are unable to escape it unless each Jew as an individual gives up his social metaphysics and groupthink mentality and starts using his independent rational judgment.

33 posted on 08/12/2012 9:32:27 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

American JINOs?

I’m through caring.


34 posted on 08/12/2012 9:33:23 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Democratic Jew....enough said. =.=


35 posted on 08/12/2012 9:34:29 AM PDT by cranked
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To: mjp

You, of course, have no idea what you’re talking about.

‘Social justice’, by the way, was invented and promoted by Catholics.


36 posted on 08/12/2012 9:36:04 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

37 posted on 08/12/2012 9:39:14 AM PDT by Reeses (Sustainable energy? Let's first have sustainable government.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is it a Jewish value to gut the American people of every nickle they can get? That sure is an Obama value.


38 posted on 08/12/2012 9:51:49 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama, what's your plan man?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
...its plans to end Medicare as we know it...

When will all these morons take notice that Medicare "as we know it" will self-destruct if it's not fixed?

39 posted on 08/12/2012 10:11:30 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“”Ryan’s signature budget plan drew the profound concern and even ire of many in the American Jewish community because of its plans to end Medicare as we know it, slash vital social safety net programs, and increase the burden on seniors, the middle class, and the poor — yet Romney today proudly hitched his horse to Ryan’s dangerous plan,””

Also Sprache Der OffenJuden - my apologies to Nitzishe.

Who appointed this pack of Libtard Jews to speak for American Jews?

It is perhaps apropos to here remind all that Ronald Reagan said he would reform Medicare to save it and the Elderly voted for him!


40 posted on 08/12/2012 10:17:12 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Ouderkirk
There are some who imagine that just a whole kaboodle of doctors are Jewish ~ which is true to a degree ~ at least as many in most places are Iranian, or Italian, or somethin' else.

But in the Greater New York Metropolitan area you have a concentration of Medical Teaching Universities and Jewish people, so they imagine something about the distribution of ethnicity in the medical community that's not actually true throughout the nation.

Simple math tells you that the impact will fall heavily on Jewish doctors in that area. But in the nation as a whole it's not going to be seeming to target any particular group.

41 posted on 08/12/2012 10:20:39 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Ouderkirk

These people support Obama or any leftist that the DNC puts up. If the GOP put up a conservative Jew these people wouldnt vote for him because he isnt Jewish enough.
And these liberal Jews are going to vote for a closest Muslim. Kind of like “Jews for Hitler”.


42 posted on 08/12/2012 10:33:48 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Republic presumptive nominee for president does not reflect the values of U.S. Jews, a statement by the National Jewish Democratic Council (NJDC) said on Sunday.

By that they mean LIBERAL Jews who are wedded to the Democrat Party, no matter HOW the leaders of that Party treat Israel. Most of them won't vote for a Republican, no matter WHO it is, or who that person chooses as a VP.

43 posted on 08/12/2012 10:46:56 AM PDT by SuziQ
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What a bunch of ignorant tools. I am officially embarassed for my fellow Jews who speak and/or think this way.

First of all, in an aspirational rush to make some sort of relevant comment on a piece of news that is perhaps 48 hours old about someone they know so little about, they reveal themselves to be ignoramuses. This is foundational to the exceptionally poor quality of their argumentation, and it’s seriously annoying, to me.

Second of all, the very idea that there is one set of common “Jewish ideals” is flat out stupid. It is a piece of meaningless doublespeak that in my view, 0bama and Axelrod themselves would be proud of. There are Jews who are entirely non-observant, there are ultra-Orthodox, and there is every shade in between. There are Jews who believe that Israel is a vicious oppressor of downtrodden Palestinians, there are Jews who think the Palestinians are trash. There are Jews who believe Franklin Roosevelt was the best thing that ever happened to the universe and there are Jews who know that Roosevelt perhaps played a critical role in allowing many thousands of Jews to die in the Holocaust because he refused to allow bombing of the rail lines leading to the camps. There are Jews who think Debbie Wasserman-tirebiter are representative of something or other; there are Jews who believe Bibi Netanyahu is the prototypical Jew.

The bottom line is that this is poorly written, poorly thought-out, reactionary piece designed to repel Jews from Ryan and it probably WAS WRITTEN WEEKS AGO with blank spots for the name of the VP pick. And ANYONE who Romney picked would have “failed to uphold Jewish values” and the people who print such crap are idiot tools of this administration, arguably the most blatantly lethal to Israel and Jews in the history of the US. They can eat s**t and die as far as I am concerned.


44 posted on 08/12/2012 10:53:35 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Unbeknownst to me, National Suicide and Bankruptcy is apparently a Jewish value. /s

Regardless of how high the values of compassion, charity and kindness may be placed in Jewish theology and practice, they are not without specific, well-known limits. For example, the Rabbis teach that one should give charity generously. However, the further teach that it is forbidden to give charity to the point of impoverishing yourself. Similarly, giving charity to fakers or those simply unwilling to work, because you are depriving the truly needy while enabling self-destructive conduct. The highest form of charity is to enable a person to support himself (ie: teach him how to fish), so obviously, we are not supposed to promote the opposite, which is dependency.

Jews who are still voting democrat in times like these are no longer practicing Judaism. Their religion is liberalism.


45 posted on 08/12/2012 11:10:50 AM PDT by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

owebama loves mudslimes and despises Jews and their state of Israel.

That so many libtard self-loathing Jews do not understand this is more proof that liberalism is a mental disorder.


46 posted on 08/12/2012 11:27:35 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

These phonies would say that if Romney dug up Moses and put him his ticket. BTW which “Jewish” values does Ryan not hold; the one about aborting yourself out of existence?


47 posted on 08/12/2012 1:43:40 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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48 posted on 08/13/2012 9:13:20 AM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The only Jewish thing about the NJDC is the food they serve at events. Lox loving leftists don’t speak for Jewish values, just socialist ones.


49 posted on 08/13/2012 10:44:06 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: mjp

Then why is it that the Jews who actually know the Talmud are the ones least likely to follow this BS?


50 posted on 08/13/2012 10:45:44 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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