Posted on 08/12/2012 12:12:06 PM PDT by RaisingCain
Romney spokeswoman Sarah Pompei said Saturday that the candidate applauds Ryans ideas, but intends to issue his own blueprint for reshaping the federal budget. After Romneys speech introducing Ryan, advisers said the former Massachusetts governor has no intention of being handcuffed to all the specifics of Ryans plans though he has said in the past that hed sign Ryans budget if passed by Congress.
He has said it moves us in the right direction. He has said that if its sent to him, he would sign it. And he has said that he will put forward his own plan, said one senior Romney adviser. He is the presidential candidate.
Its not clear whether Romney will address his differences of opinion with Ryan, whatever they may be, in any depth between now and Nov. 6, or whether hell detail a debt-reduction proposal with the same degree of specificity as Ryans. Romney evidently hopes to benefit from Ryans brand as a fiscal warrior, without handing Democrats a gift-wrapped attack line to drive conservative-leaning senior citizens away from the GOP.
That may be easier said than done. Introducing Ryan in Norfolk, Va., Romney touted the Wisconsin lawmakers fiscal expertise and vowed that hed protect entitlement programs as president. He called for bold, specific and achievable fiscal policies, but did not mention Ryans budget by name.
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
It’s been suggested that a big part of picking Ryan was to get him out of the congress.
You seem to assume Politico is telling the truth. That’s not a good idea. Don’t be blinded by your Romney-hate like so many here.
You seem to assume Politico is telling the truth. That’s not a good idea. Don’t be blinded by your Romney-hate like so many here.
You seem to assume Politico is telling the truth. That’s not a good idea. Don’t be blinded by your Romney-hate like so many here.
You seem to assume Politico is telling the truth. That’s not a good idea. Don’t be blinded by your Romney-hate like so many here.
Oh, what the hell?
WRONG. I read the QUOTE from Romney’s SPOKESMAN. Try again before the obligatory RNC Inquisition Routine. Everybody DOES EXPECT YOU at this point.
To prove how incorrect Politico is watch the millions the DNC will spend on attacking one issue about Ryan- his budget.
Anybody but Obama.
Really?
Who suggested this?
“The one thing that can be trusted above all is that Obama is a communist from childhood who learned everything he knows at the knee of a communist and is out to destroy this country.
Anybody but Obama.”
Can we put the ABO! ABO! ABO! ranting to rest for this thread? I know questions about Mittens and questions about the official GOPe narrative are discouraged by Romney operatives, but let’s at least have ONE rational thread around here.
Ignore the second sentence to my rant. Pay close attention to the first.
“Its been suggested that a big part of picking Ryan was to get him out of the congress.”
Ugh, so they get to hold up Ryan as a nice shiny prop to appease the base, while at the same time it is an attack against our interests? Politics is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
IMO, the major portion of Ryan’s plus, is his budget plans.
If Romney were to cut Ryan off at the knees, that would end the biggest benefit he could give to him.
Imagine the debates, with Ryan unable to touch on his best asset when debating Biden.
Ryan is dead set against Obamacare too, and much of it based on the negative budget impact.
Romney team will do better if they’re a moving target. Anything GOP candidates solidly commit to gets ripped to shreds by media.
I wouldn’t pay too much attention to posturing at this point in time.
NO we cannot put that to rest....because we are REALISTS...we will work our arses off on the House and Senate campaigns....how many of you here are Precinct Committee People.....HUH???? How many? I’m tired of the B***hing...
As for getting Ryan out of Congress, he should refuse to resign until after they win the election. McCain never tossed his Senate seat.
Once Ryan is VP, good luck shutting him up then. His voice will be even louder. Romney would want to run in 2016. If he gets cute that just might die on the vine.
.. oral arguments from the Debbie Wasserman Downer contingent on FR.
“Can we put the ABO! ABO! ABO! ranting to rest for this thread? I know questions about Mittens and questions about the official GOPe narrative are discouraged by Romney operatives, but lets at least have ONE rational thread around here.”
So are you saying that obama is not a Communist? Or are you saying it doesn't matter?
I can't believe people here would let a Communist remain in the White House by putting politics above their country.
Do not trust Politico to give you the truth, or even a reasonable facsimile of it. Politico was created by Washington Post reporters who decided to leave the WP before the layoffs began due to its declining ad income and readership.
I trust Politico as much as I trust the New York Times and the Washington comPost. Which is not at all.
What you’re saying is that Mitt Romney’s betrayal of the conservative movement and of the country, over and over again, doesn’t matter because Obama is also a traitor.
Two negatives don’t make a positive, unless you’re in the GOPe.
I guarantee that Romney's people have already handed their RINO script to Ryan, and ordered him to not deviate from it, period. Ryan will be effectively muzzled, just like Palin was in 2008.
The question is, will he go rogue too, like Sarah did, or stick to the milquetoast Romney line.
My guess is the latter, since they've already got Ryan's minders in place.
Romney Campaign Expands Its Staff to Work With Vice-Presidential Pick
I suspect this inconvenient fact was left out of the poll of Florida seniors cited by Politico.
Another poster, yesterday. So, it must be true.
That’s what we’re always reduced to with the GOPe: Useful Dogs.
No, what I clearly said is Obama is a COMMUNIST.
Obama, David Axelrod, and Valerie Jarrett were all raised by and mentored by card carrying Communists who all, coincidentally, knew each other and the three of them are busy carrying out the Communist plans taught to them by these mentors.
I also said, I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE HERE WOULD PUT POLITICS AHEAD OF THEIR COUNTRY.
If you had read further down, you would have seen this...
Romney evidently hopes to benefit from Ryans brand as a fiscal warrior, without handing Democrats a gift-wrapped attack line to drive conservative-leaning senior citizens away from the GOP.
For the last 50 years, ever since the creation of Medicare, it's been the same theme from the democrats. Now, they are attacking with the predictable "Ryan will take away Medicare from Senior citizens" theme.
Just an hour after the pick, Debbie Blabbermounth -Schultz was being quoted on all top of the hour news saying, "I was on the budget committee with Paul Ryan and I know his tax plan is extreme right-wing ideology and he wants to eliminate Medicare/Medicaid for all Senior citizens"
“I also said, I CAN’T BELIEVE PEOPLE HERE WOULD PUT POLITICS AHEAD OF THEIR COUNTRY.”
That’s exactly what you’re doing. Even RomneyCare was designed by the same socialist in the DSA (Obama’s old club) who also went on to help design ObamaCare itself. Check Trevor Loudon’s New Zeal blog for that story. You’re ignoring the fact that Romney is also a progressive and an enemy of our movement for POLITICAL reasons, because you think that this fight is only about one man, Obama, when really it’s about the entire IDEOLOGY behind him that is winning the fight no matter which way you slice it.
>how many of you here are Precinct Committee People.<
I am...AND the founder of a very active tea party. And to our credit, the county GOP hates us as much as the Democrats.
Visit us at http://www.bloodofpatriots.org
Notice there is always an excuse for why Romney won’t take a stand on this or that. No one looks to his record for why that may be, but only what they Hope.
“Realists” = Faux Conservatives.
I can't find a thing wrong with this. Paul Ryan is a very smart man and Romney has the track record for saving and building businesses. I believe it will be very difficult to turn things around considering the damage that the commie thug in the White Hut has done.
I hope ObamaCare is the first thing to go. We're running out of time.
That was my very first thought. Making him VP makes him Mitt’s slave.
Very productive. Throw some more names around. Help elect Obama.
And the invective and general nastiness that is currently being hurled at us "purists" by the self-proclaimed "realists" is way beyond the pale.
There are going to be a bunch of people who will be very sorry they ever jumped into bed with Romney this election cycle.
VP's usually gets sent to state funerals in places like Abba-Zaba and the Congo, to appease the dictators and witch doctors. He's leaving on a jet plane, don't know when he'll be back again.
As for the conspiracy theory that Romney chose Ryan to remove him from power in Congress, that is easily debunked. Ryan is not taking himself off the ballot for Congress so if Romney loses, Ryan will stay in Congress. However, if Romney wins, Ryan is now in even a more powerful position. So either way, Ryan is not going to have any power taken away from him - unless he loses the House race as well. Which is unlikely as I believe he got 70% of the vote last time around.
Like "purists?"
Hillary, Obama, Kerry, Kuchinich, Dodd, Richardson,did not give up their senate seats, I dont think John edwards did either..Bob Dole gave up his senate majority seat to run...
Also, keep being a sarcastic ass. That’s helpful too.
I'm glad to be of service to you.
“So I’m not quite sure where the “not embracing his budget” comes from.”
That was Politico trying to read their thoughts. FAIL
If you are a Romney skeptic then I misjudged you. I apologize.
Everything Romney has done tells us to be skeptical about every thing he says. And if he steps back into his old RINO ways for even a second we need to slap him and slap him hard.
Ryan's plan was crafted in 2011 after the tidal wave swept Nancy Pelosi out of power. It was crafted in an environment where Harry Reid and the Senate had refused to pass a Democrat budget at all for 3 years, and it was crafted when Obama's own budgets were rejected by a unanimous Congress. In other words, Ryan's plan was meant to be political as a juxtaposition to the lack of seriousness coming from Democrats.
The realities will be different in 2013 with a Republican President and Republicans controlling both chambers of Congress. There is every reason to expect that Romney would craft a new plan that contains things that Ryan could not include, or would remove things that Ryan had to include, because of what Romney can do now that Ryan could not do then.
Why turn it into a controversy, when it's not one?
-PJ
Thanks for the mention. Bob Dole must have retired then. I don’t think he returned did he? Perhaps so for a short spell.
Thanks for the voice of reason. It has been sorely lacking here lately.
Well, goll-ee!
GREAT! You are doing something....the rest of those here seem to be just complaining....
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