Skip to comments.The alternative to Mitt Romney
Posted on 08/12/2012 1:40:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
In some conservative quarters, the question is still being asked, What is our alternative to Mitt Romney?
Some people are suggesting voting for the Libertarian Candidate or even the guy from the Constitution Party who may only end up on the ballot in one or two states.
There is an alternative to Mitt Romney, if you are looking for one.
Who is it?
It is Barack Obama.
No, that is not a joke.
Absent some almost unprecedented or at least unpredictable event, next January in Washington, it is either going to be Barack Obama or Mitt Romney standing on the stage taking the Oath of Office.
It will not be Gary Johnson and it will not be that clown Virgil Goode from the Constitution Party.
Here are your choices. It is either A or B. It is American versus Marxist. It is Romney versus Obama. It is that simple.
If you decide Romney is not pure enough for you and you decide you want to vote for the candidate who believes the most pressing problem facing this country is the legalization of drugs, then you are voting for Barack Obama.
If you choose to vote for the Libertarian candidate this year, you are voting for four more years of the Party of Treason in the White House.
If you doubt me on this and think your vote does not matter, I refer you to Florida in 2000. Ralph Nader pulled 97,000 votes in Florida. Most of those people would have undoubtedly preferred Al Gore to George W. Bush. Gore lost Florida by 537 votes.
Yesterday, Mitt Romney pulled a stunner. His selection of Paul Ryan was a complete surprise to me. Prior to yesterday I was almost certain that his choice would be Rob Portman. The others I feared were in the running were Tim Pawlenty or Chris Christie. Had Christie been the choice, it would have been as bad a pick for Romney as McCains first choice in 08 of Joe Lieberman.
Some people, mostly Libertarians have been assailing Ryan as not really a conservative. Ryan voted for TARP in 2008 and he voted for Bushs Medicare expansion.
No politician is going to have a perfect record. The American Conservative Union scores Ryan with a 92% lifetime record. To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, if someone votes with me 92% of the time, Im going to call him a 92% ally, not an 8% traitor.
Instead of tapping an establishment moderate, as most of us feared he would do, Romney made a surprisingly bold choice in Ryan. More importantly, he reached out to conservatives.
A few weeks ago, I said I would go into the voting booth on election day with a large and cold bottle of Pepto Bismol in one hand, a stomach distress bag in another and I would vote for Romney, praying I did not leave the rancid dregs of what was once my breakfast on the voting machine.
I lost count of the number of jury trials I did as a lawyer. In a jury trial, at the end, the jury is given instructions by the judge. There is one section of the jury instructions that I have always remembered. It said, Do not hesitate to reexamine your own views and change your opinion if you believe it is not correct.
That is sound advice.
I have reexamined my own views of this race and have changed my opinion because I believe my old opinion is no longer correct.
This is a battle for the soul and future of America. It is literally a battle between good and evil. It is a battle between those who revere America and the liberty and freedom it stands for and those who worship at the altar of socialism and the inevitable tyranny that follows with socialism.
I have been brutally critical of Mitt Romney over the last few months. I anticipate I will continue to be critical of him on certain issues. Mitt Romney is not the perfect candidate but we will never have the perfect candidate.
What we do have is a candidate who right now is our best hope for stopping the Obama, Pelosi, Reid axis of fiscal evil and helping to restore America.
I endorse Mitt Romney for President and Paul Ryan for Vice President. I encourage every Tea Party member and conservative to go out and support them, work for them and make sure that in January, we do to Barack Obama what he has done to so many other Americans.
We put him out of a job.
It still doesn’t make me like Romney. But I might vote for Ryan.
I agree with this 100%
It’s not America vs the Marxists. Romney vs Obama. It’s America vs Romney vs Obama. It’s not even a matter of “purity” either, since Romney is so pitch black even when it comes to basic moral principles like honesty and loyalty that we cannot even call him kin to our movement. The “purity” argument would really only apply if it was Marco Rubio, an amnesty pimp, or maybe Chris Christie vs Obama. Only then it would make sense. In the meantime, it’s two progressives fighting a battle that we are only pawns in.
Romney has positioned Ryan as a potential presidential candidate, hopefully after President Romney serves his well deserved eight years. We owe a great deal of gratitude to this great American and we will owe a great deal more when President Romney gives us Supreme Court Justices who will turn back the socialist tide.
He is correct. The alternative to Romney/Ryan is Obama/Biden. It is that simple. No calculus or quantum physics required.
Some simple truths are just too hard for some to swallow.
THE ONLY POSSIBLE NOT-ROMNEY CHOICE:
If a pathological liar is a Great American, maybe America is no longer so great?
By a factor too great to calculate, I fear a lame duck Obama much more than a first term Romney. And as long as there isn’t a viable 3rd party candidate, I’ll vote where it counts. I’m not a big fan of symbolic jesters.
That will work.
Thank you for the post. You are 100% right on this. I am not a Romney fan myself, but I like Paul Ryan. His 92% conservative voting record speaks for itself. I would vote for anyone over Obama to save our country, but Romney’s choice of Ryan as his VP running mate sealed the deal and made it a whole lot easier to support Romney’s campaign. I contributed to his campaign for the first time yesterday.
I’ve got a friend who is just adamanent about voting for Gary Johnson. Most of these people view the country as already gone and fail to see how much worse it will get in a King Obama 2nd term.
How’s the weather in Chicago, Jasper?
That’s exactly how I feel.
You asked for comments. Don’t complain that they disagreed with your entire premise.
I had a conversation with my parents yesterday regarding the Ryan pick for which we are pleased. We talked about the conservative misgivings about Romney. ( My parents are solidly ABO)
I too am voting ABO but not just against 0bama and Biden but to rid our government of Holder, Sebelius, Jarret, Plouffe and all the other jackals, hyenas, vermin and scum that inhabit the 0bama White House.
Yeah, Romney is a capital R Rino that has held positions I would never vote for him but between him and the parasites and bacteria that make up the current administration I’m holding the opinion that Romney will not infest his administration with the lice and cockroaches we currently have and I believe Ryan’s pick is a clear signal backing my belief.
Anyone who tries to compare Romney to Obama isn’t playing with a full deck. At this point I’d sprint to the ballot to vote for Bubba or Hillary over this marxist, Constitution-hating, pea-brained thug. Will deal with the Republicans later. I’m in the camp that believes this country is finished if Obama gets a 2nd term.
I REALLY like your tagline.
A liberal friend of mine thinks Obama is being “hamstrung” by an uncooperative Congress and could become a lame duck President, through no fault of his own.
How to talk to a liberal if you must? And worst of all, she says she isn’t a Liberal but an Independent.
I’ve culled most of them from my roster of friends..family too. noone is above getting my axe....This one is an old college roommate and I love her.
But I don’t know if I can take this much longer. She’s going on about Wall Street and bankers being the problem lately.
Do I cut and run or try to ignore this part of her and keep the rest? Oh, and I’m not one of those cooperative wussy “okay, we won’t talk politics’ types.(her weekly suggestion but then she blathers on anyway)
This is about our country and our freedoms and I won’t be shushed.
Yes. If Romney is like Obama, he’s less of an Obama. Punishing all Americans with four more years of traitor Obama if Republicans do not pick a conservative candidate is too drastic a revenge or punishment. Thus it makes sense to vote for R+R in November. Also, Ryan is more conservative than Romney so that’s one more reason to vote for R+R.
It’s a hoot that the commie and thief tries to take credit for what our military does then tells businesses they didn’t build anything.
November can’t get here soon enough.
It is, indeed, that simple.
There are precisely two dots to connect.
And, if you do not prefer the American (warts and all), then you prefer the Marxist.
There are precisely two dots to connect.
You are absolutely right.
We have no choice. It’s Romney/Ryan or Omuslim completes the distruction of America.
It’s as simple as that.
With conservative congressman Paul Ryan being chosen by Romney as his VP, I was able to feel a lot better about the GOP presidential candidate and decided that I wouldn't need 3 clothespins on my nose when I walked into the voting booth on November 6th. As you stated, there is no 'perfect' political candidate. Never has, never will be.
Those who delight in trashing Romney on a conservative website can do that until the cows come home and vote as they please, of course, but I'm voting Republican on November 6th and I'm relieved to see that some longtime FReepers I respect are coming to the same conclusion.
I expect a Romney-Ryan blowout on election day and now I feel more confident that ever about the election.
> Freepers, help!
> Do I cut and run or try to ignore this part of her and keep
> the rest?
Put the past in the past in this case. There are many beautiful, conservative, hot, intelligent and smart (alphabetical order) women out there to make friends with!
Are you really so new here that you think my name is Judson Phillips and that I wrote this article?
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I voted for Palin/McCain in 2008. Now it’s Ryan/Romney in 2012.
Some come closer, though!
Then tell her how much you value her friendship and then ask sincerely...now what do we do?
I had a long term relationship with a woman who was an absolute master at changing the subject. It got to where I knew she was doing it, but I let it go because I knew it was her way of telling me she “didn't want to talk about it” without saying I don't want to talk about it.
Right on right on right on. We will not survive another 4 years of Barack Obama. The anti Romney whiners need to get a grip.. and sooner rather than later.
Many here on the right do not understand the concept of incrementalism.
The left lives by it. We did not come to the socialist marxist obama thug all of a sudden. Never would have happened if they would not have had Clinton and Carter types to lean a little more to the left with each new administration and congress.
I can be happy and patient that through R&R and hard work pushing strong conservative local candidates we can get our country turning right again, even if I've radius of the curve is not as sharp as we would all like.
Think about those words. They are repugnant aren't they? They came out of your mouth.
Provide no succor to the enemy. Cut all familial and social ties with liberals. Shun them. Burn the bridge. Don't even tell them why.
Your opinion scarcely matters, since you offer no real alternative. At this point attacking Romney is just shilling for Obama.
"Clown"? Stopped reading right there, not worth my time.
Yes, this is the same “Romney or else” sophistry I have seen repeatedly posted on Free Republic by the ABO crowd. “2ndDivisionVet” if I wasn't familiar with your “good” posting record, I would be convinced you had gone crazy.
I am going to use the same analogy about manure that I have been using elsewhere. You are a reasonable person, maybe you will understand. I can at least hope:
What has developed in this election is like someone showing me a pile of Horse Manure (Romney) and one of Pig Manure (Obama) and telling me I MUST chose between those two piles of which I want my face shoved into. Now there are those that pleadingly argue that Horse Manure (Romney) isn't nearly as smelly and Pig Manure (Obama). In fact, a daisy (Ryan) has been stuck in the Horse Manure (Romney) pile to make it more attractive, since we all love daisies. However, those so arguing for the Horse Manure (Romney) just can't seem to understand that they are still asking me to stick my face in a pile of Horse Manure!
Well, I'm going to take a third option, regardless of those folks that say I cannot. I refuse to stick my face in the Horse Manure (Romney) or the Pig Manure (Obama). No one can force me to accept that choice. But oh, there are those folks that argue that if I don't go with the Horse Manure (Romney) that I WILL be forced to stick my face in the Pig Manure (Obama). However, once again I say NO ONE CAN FORCE EITHER ON ME! The mere act of so forcing is TYRANNY, and that tyranny is coming from both the people that produced the Pig Manure (Obama) and Horse Manure (Romney)(oh I forgot the pretty daisy Ryan). I DO NOT BOW TO ANY FORM OF TYRANNY, REGARDLESS OF ITS SOURCE! I am made of sterner stuff. IF I do momentarily bow, it is only to develop a rapid way to strike a bow against the tyrants.
I am actually incredulous that otherwise intelligent people, like FR posters, are so quick to be tyrannized by a “primary process” or a “GOP establishment” to have to be “forced” to buy into Horse Manure(Romney) in the face (oops forgot the daisy - Ryan) by tyrants, and then have them have the AUDACITY to tell me that by default that if I don't pick the Horse Manure (Romney) with daisy (Ryan) that I WILL be picking the Pig Manure (Obama). That is nonsense. I cannot be forced into Pig Manure by tyrants anymore than Horse Manure. I WILL fight TYRANTS OF EITHER SIDE that force their Manure on me!
What is needed this day, are men an women with brave hearts and strong backs that refuse to chose between piles of manure! Fight men and women, fight the system and tyranny (from the left and right) that is attempting to force you to chose from piles of manure which is best! Fight, never stop fighting, never stop resisting. Don't give into specious arguments that you must chose manure of any sort. Like I said, fight. Use your brains and hearts, there are other things to do than picking a pile of manure. Even a pile with a daisy in it. IF the intelligent people here on FR would grow a spine and brain, and then use them, we could come up together with creative ways to resist either pile of manure. Help...stop being part of the party by being a “surrender monkey” and being forced to stick your face in a pile of manure.
It is only that simple if your individual vote will determine the election. Even if your individual vote detemined the state in which you are voting, your choice would only matter if the electoral college were close enough for the state to make the difference.
In point of fact, if it is that close, lawyeres will determine the outcome, not the individual votes.
None of the above does send a message. Is there a risk in sending this message? Perhaps a slight one.
I am inclined to vote for Ryan but not Romney—writing in someone else for the top of the ticket. It is enough to give the lawyers something to fight over if it does come down to a tie except for my vote (arguably I am voting for Ryan’s electors) but does drive home the point that I am not happy with Romney.
In past elections, though I voted Republican, I considered the idea that a Democrat victory might lead to a disastrous term giving rise to a true reform candidate next time around. Carter helped give us Reagan, was my reasoning.
I don't think that's an option now. Obama is spending $400,000,000 an hour that we don't have. Once the Obamacare goodies start rolling in, it will be impossible to repeal. Two social engineering Supreme Court justices that would tip the balance for decades might be nominated.
With a second Obama term, in four years we will be Greece and it will be impossible to turn back from that fate.
There is no choice. Vote Republican!
Well, I see I didn’t get on the thread until the usual FRatricide started.
Not thrilled about Romney. I like Ryan, and have since I saw him school Obama back in 2010. My main hope this November will be that Barack Obama will not have another four years to further his agenda, which I believe is the destruction of America.
And for what it’s worth, I don’t give a rat’s ear what religion Romney practices. I would probably vote for Anton LaVey if he was the Republican candidate running to unseat Obama.
I wonder how many electoral votes Virgil Goode wll end up with?
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
I’d like to see this picture photoshopped into that “Obey” poster.
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