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Calif. Fire-Protection Fee Ignites Anger As Bills Go Out
AP) ^ | August 12, 2012 8:25 AM

Posted on 08/12/2012 4:09:31 PM PDT by BenLurkin

More than 800,000 Californians who own property in wildfire country will begin receiving bills this week for a new annual fire-protection fee, rekindling outrage among rural residents and leading to a likely lawsuit seeking to overturn the surcharge.

The fee, passed by Democrats in the Legislature and signed by Gov. Jerry Brown last year, is intended to raise an estimated $84 million in its first year for fire-prevention efforts. The annual charge can run as high as $150 for property owners with a single occupied dwelling, although there is a $35 discount for those who already pay a local tax for fire protection.

The discount will apply to about 95 percent of rural property owners, but it’s not enough to quell the anger in the parts of California where the fee will apply.

“Everybody that knows about it is upset, but I think 90 percent of the public has no idea it’s coming. It’s going to be quite a shock,” said John Little of Laytonville, chief of the Long Valley Fire Protection District in rural Mendocino County.

He said the $115 annual bill will hurt residents in his 250-square-mile district. The region, between the Mendocino National Forest and the Pacific Ocean, has a jobless rate of 18 percent and many seniors living on fixed incomes.

(Excerpt) Read more at losangeles.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: calfire

1 posted on 08/12/2012 4:09:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Hey, they’re just trying to depopulate the rural areas. Agenda 21 and all that, dontcha know.


2 posted on 08/12/2012 4:12:26 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: BenLurkin

GOVERNMENT: “I see you have some money there. Give it to me.”


3 posted on 08/12/2012 4:14:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: BenLurkin

CA has a bigger fire problem. Because of their budget problems they’re kicking criminals out of prisons and jails. Most of CA’s front line fire response is done by prisoners and the fear is there won’t be enough of them to fight fires. So now, instead of putting out fires, they will be robiing the citizens.


4 posted on 08/12/2012 4:20:38 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: BenLurkin

The dopey libs will still for them!!


5 posted on 08/12/2012 4:21:15 PM PDT by notaliberal
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To: Disambiguator

Better ground the planes and let the boonies burn.... It would be cheaper in the long run. Why subsidize the free loading drug growers in the sticks?


6 posted on 08/12/2012 4:22:41 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: BenLurkin

Read in the WSJ this week that there are half the number of house fires as 30 years ago and twice the number of firefighters on the payroll....


7 posted on 08/12/2012 4:26:03 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: BenLurkin
I find it kind of hard to feel any sympathy for anyone who resides in CA. They've made their beds by voting (D) and the consequences of their decisions are, and will continue to, slap them in the face.

The Kenyan must go.

8 posted on 08/12/2012 4:26:15 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: BenLurkin

And they want to drain the Hetch Hetchy reservoir too.

I can’t believe I’m on the same side as Nancy and Diane over that one.


9 posted on 08/12/2012 4:26:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: BenLurkin

I don’t see it as a bad idea____IF_____ the 84 million went to it’s designated purpose,but we all know by the time the State gets their share, the grifters get their share, and Brown’s friend get their kickbacks, there will be little going toward the purpose.


10 posted on 08/12/2012 4:27:34 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: BenLurkin

Example of the communists control of California. This State is trashed!


11 posted on 08/12/2012 4:28:13 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: BenLurkin

When did Democrats get the idea that the constitution allows them to charge fees? It’s precedent now I suppose with Obama care.


12 posted on 08/12/2012 4:28:13 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: BenLurkin

Democrats have never seen a tax increase or new tax they didn’t like.


13 posted on 08/12/2012 4:30:13 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: ex91B10

FREE REPUBLIC resides in California.

I live here and never vote Dem, a fat lot of good it does me. I also live in the mountains and will be hit with this “fee”. It’s bad enough to still be charged property taxes on a house that’s lost more than half its value because of the policies of the liberals, now they want to soak me some more on the pretext of fighting fires. I’m forced to pay for flood insurance, too - and I’m on top of a mountain!

To appease their Green God, they’re also building giant transmission lines from the windmill and solar farms further north through my community, increasing the fire danger they now want me to pay extra for. And we don’t even get the electricity.

There’s a lot more, but don’t get me started on these bastards. They’ve taken Ronald Reagan’s once-great state and turned it into a third world crap hole.


14 posted on 08/12/2012 4:32:39 PM PDT by Argus
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To: ex91B10
Do you seriously believe that everyone in California votes Democrat?
15 posted on 08/12/2012 4:37:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin
Do you seriously believe that everyone in California votes Democrat?

No, but with the swarm of illegals in the last two decades, California has reached the point of no return. I truly believe it is beyond salvage.

16 posted on 08/12/2012 4:41:01 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: ex91B10

Wow. Broadbrush much?


17 posted on 08/12/2012 4:41:10 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Disambiguator
"Hey, they’re just trying to depopulate the rural areas. Agenda 21 and all that, dontcha know. "

It can be stopped!!

Horizon 2025 Comprehensive Plan Rescinded By Baldwin County Commission

Tuesday, August 07, 2012, 6:05 PM
By Jane Nicholes, Press-Register Press-Register

BAY MINETTE, Alabama — Egged on by a large crowd invoking property rights, United Nations Agenda 21, the U.S. Constitution and even the Communist Manifesto, the Baldwin County Commission killed the Horizon 2025 comprehensive plan today.

Following the 3-1 vote, many in the audience sang "God Bless America."

18 posted on 08/12/2012 4:51:23 PM PDT by blam
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To: BenLurkin

Go after the people who won’t let brush and old tree clean ups.


19 posted on 08/12/2012 4:52:01 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer.)
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To: BenLurkin
In the near future, the fiscal revenue problems of Kalifornia will mean they will not be able to rebuild after the next big earthquake or next big fire. After the next couple of decades, most of what remains in Kalifornia will be ruins.

Ruinous economic governance has its consequences.

20 posted on 08/12/2012 5:07:52 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: martin_fierro

I’m in Michigan. You get used to it. LOL


21 posted on 08/12/2012 5:10:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Disambiguator

Indeed, Agenda 21 in action...the dark side is ramping up.


22 posted on 08/12/2012 5:15:45 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Argus
I live here and never vote Dem, a fat lot of good it does me. I also live in the mountains and will be hit with this “fee”....

Me, too. Worse, the feds have purchased a lot of the land around here for "preserves" that we paid for and aren't even allowed to walk on. We're required to clear our property for fire control, but the feds let their brush grow thick and tall - and then dry out.

The federal gov is causing fire danger, and now they're billing us for it.

23 posted on 08/12/2012 5:32:29 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: Argus

Agreed my folks moved us to southern Calif in 1953-4? I still live here but it’s not the state I grew up in. Tears for the once “Golden State “


24 posted on 08/12/2012 5:33:34 PM PDT by blastdad51 (Typical middle-aged white patriot.)
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To: BenLurkin

I had a volunteer fireman tell me that if we had a big fire in the small valley we live in, they most likely wouldn’t come here. There’s no water other than the 2500 gallon tank that we have, which was an option or pay $900. Our neighbors payed $900 for fire protection when they built their house. This is a rip off.


25 posted on 08/12/2012 5:37:34 PM PDT by RC2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMeDmV0ufU)
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To: BenLurkin

“Impact fees” are even uglier: illegal taxes levied by fire departments against only new residents in their areas. What NIMBYs support eventually comes back to haunt them on top of their income cuts and foreclosures to come (see bond collapse, repudiation, currency adjustment, etc.).


26 posted on 08/12/2012 6:46:42 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: BenLurkin
More than 800,000 Californians who own property in wildfire country will begin receiving bills this week for a new annual fire-protection fee ...

For those of you who do not live in California and/or unfamiliar with the demographics of the state, let me rewrite that line so it is more accurate and makes sense.

More than 800,000 Californians Republicans who own property in wildfire country will begin receiving bills this week for a new annual fire-protection fee

27 posted on 08/12/2012 6:50:28 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: BenLurkin

Quit your whining Californicates. You should feel privileged and honored to pay the fee to the freely elected overseers that now control every aspect of your lives. For those who live there and are not part of the queer, freak, pervert, or stupid majority and can’t escape, you have my sympathy.


28 posted on 08/12/2012 7:17:40 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
GOVERNMENT: “I see you have some money there. Give it to me.”

No, no. It's this: GOVERNMENT: "I will let you keep slightly less of the government's money this year."

29 posted on 08/14/2012 5:09:53 AM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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