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Darrell Issa to Sue Eric Holder Monday
Roll Call ^ | August 12, 2012 | Jonathan Strong

Posted on 08/12/2012 5:33:08 PM PDT by Kaslin

House Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa plans to sue Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday for refusing to provide documents related to the "Fast and Furious" gun-smuggling operation.

"The committee expects to file the civil contempt suit against the attorney general Monday," a Republican source said. The suit will be filed in the federal district court for the District of Columbia.

The action is the latest escalation in the dispute between House Republicans and the Justice Department over the documents, which relate to a botched gun-smuggling operation.

On June 28, the House voted to hold Holder in contempt of Congress and authorized the Oversight panel to bring suit to enforce its rights.

In Fast and Furious, agents for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed assault guns to "walk," which meant ending surveillance on weapons suspected to be en route to Mexican drug cartels.

The tactic, which was intended to allow agents to track criminal networks by finding the guns at crime scenes, was condemned after two guns that were part of the operation were found at Border Patrol agent Brian Terry's murder scene.

In the most recent conflict between Congress and the president over a Congressional subpoena, Democrats' and Republicans' roles were reversed.

The Democratic-led House held two White House aides, Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten, in contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with subpoenas issued to the George W. Bush administration. Republicans, including Issa, defended the administration, while Democrats said it was unlawful.

After the House held Miers and Bolten in contempt, the Judiciary Committee sued the two aides in federal district court.

In August 2008, a federal judge ordered Miers to testify and Bolten to turn over documents, overruling the administration's claim of executive privilege. That ruling was appealed.

In March 2009, a year after the suit was filed, Miers and Karl Rove, who had also become ensnared in a separate contempt proceeding, agreed to testify behind closed doors to the House Judiciary Committee. The deal broke the stalemate.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 112th; atf; banglist; batf; bhodoj; brianterry; ericholder; fastandfurious; gunrunner; holdercontempt; issa; issacontemptlawsuit; issasuesholder; lawsuit; murdergate

1 posted on 08/12/2012 5:33:14 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

Here we go. Ping.


2 posted on 08/12/2012 5:35:33 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Kaslin

Issa should demand that Holder be held without bond pending the outcome of the trial.


3 posted on 08/12/2012 5:37:02 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: MestaMachine

Now holder can step down and O can replace him with whoever he’d like to...without congressional approval. Thanks to the new law that was just passed.


4 posted on 08/12/2012 5:38:18 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: MestaMachine

Good.


5 posted on 08/12/2012 5:40:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kaslin
"the latest escalation in the dispute between House Republicans and the Justice Department over the documents,"

Let's try this...

the latest escalation in the dispute between House Republicans THE RULE OF LAW and the Justice Department over the documents,

6 posted on 08/12/2012 5:41:20 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: HollyB

From what I understand (and I could be wrong), that new law about appointments does not give the pres carte blanche with all appointments, just some of the lower grade less important ones. I read a bit about it but hopefully someone reading this thread knows more and will comment.


7 posted on 08/12/2012 5:42:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kaslin

GO DARRELL!!!!!!!


8 posted on 08/12/2012 5:50:04 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin

And what, exactly, will this accomplish? Everything Issa has done has been totally ineffective thus far.


9 posted on 08/12/2012 5:51:12 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Kaslin

I’ll bet the shredders have been running nonstop all weekend.


10 posted on 08/12/2012 5:52:01 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Kaslin

The GOP giving yet another gift to the Democrats.


11 posted on 08/12/2012 5:57:40 PM PDT by yield 2 the right (Staying Home for 2012: Try Again In 2016.)
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To: bigbob

The Larry Klayman of Congressmen.


12 posted on 08/12/2012 5:59:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: yield 2 the right
The GOP giving yet another gift to the Democrats.

And you would propose...what?

Doing nothing?

Or short-circuiting due process?

Like it or not, this is the process that brought Nixon down.

13 posted on 08/12/2012 6:00:55 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE002)
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To: HollyB

It does not cover the Justice department. But I hear ya!


14 posted on 08/12/2012 6:02:10 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: Kaslin

Wow. Will try to invest in the company that manufactures Depends tomorrow. Between Holder, BO and the rest of the dems, I should make a tidy profit!


15 posted on 08/12/2012 6:12:11 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: okie01
And you would propose...what?

Doing nothing?

Take a look at his tagline. That should give you the answer

16 posted on 08/12/2012 6:13:42 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: bigbob
So he should just give up?

You would be the first one to scream if he did

17 posted on 08/12/2012 6:17:01 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
Take a look at his tagline. That should give you the answer

Why am I not surprised?

There are those who would cut off their nose to spite our face...

18 posted on 08/12/2012 6:17:30 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE002)
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To: jcsjcm; little jeremiah

Thx


19 posted on 08/12/2012 7:31:10 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: jcsjcm

That’s good to know.


20 posted on 08/12/2012 7:45:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: smoothsailing

The media will scream racism, and prominent Comm.. I mean Democrats will laugh Issa out of the building.


21 posted on 08/12/2012 7:56:27 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: okie01

Democrats had the media behind them then, and they have the media behind them now.


22 posted on 08/12/2012 7:59:51 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: Kaslin

go for the jugular Issa, don’t hold back.


23 posted on 08/12/2012 8:07:23 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: wastedyears

So what? It’s up to the Judge. Lock the perp up, he’s a flight risk!


24 posted on 08/12/2012 8:07:58 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Kaslin
The interesting thing here is that the DoJ knows that the committee has whistleblowers and documents... but they don't know which documents! So the DoJ faces a serious issue: if they turn over part of the documents and leave out something the committee already has, you're talking serious contempt o' court and a major scandal. And if they turn it all over, well... they're busted.

Damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Should be nice to see what happens...

25 posted on 08/12/2012 8:08:06 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: wastedyears
Democrats had the media behind them then, and they have the media behind them now.

True.

But, in 1974, the media were the only voice. And most folks believed them.

Today, it's a little different...

26 posted on 08/12/2012 8:10:55 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE002)
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To: okie01

Despite alternate media, how many people bother to search the internet to get information? It’s doubly hard when you have people like Obama that try to scrub damning information before too many people have the chance to see it.


27 posted on 08/12/2012 8:34:15 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: wastedyears
Despite alternate media, how many people bother to search the internet to get information?

Plenty more than used to. And more tomorrow.

The MSM's audience and influence is shrinking everyday.

28 posted on 08/12/2012 8:36:52 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE002)
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To: Kaslin
The Romney campaign needs to HAMMER Obama with this!

"Harry Reid demands I release 10 years of tax returns, to prove my innocence. But Eric Holder refuses to release documents of an illegal operation that smuggled weapons directly to drug cartels in a foreign country, that have been linked to the deaths of a federal officer and OVER 300 innocent Mexican citizens. And after the House cites Holder in contempt of congress, Obama declares "executive privilege."

Harry Reid asks what Mr Romney is hiding in his tax records? The American people deserve to know what the Obama administration is hiding in blocking the release of documents pertaining to illegal international gun running and hundreds of murders!"

I hope they grow a pair and do it!

Mark

29 posted on 08/12/2012 8:59:15 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Kaslin

Unfortunately this will amount to exactly nothing. And even if Holder were forced to comply then the precedent is set. Always stone wall Congress because you have nothing to lose by doing so. The very worst thing that can happen to Holder is that he has to give up what he does not want to give up. And that would be a long way down the road.


30 posted on 08/12/2012 9:03:07 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel

It appears to be another dog and pony show, so I don’t quite understand why Issa is going through the motions with this.


31 posted on 08/12/2012 9:06:46 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

WithHolder, that’s Eric WithHolder.....


32 posted on 08/12/2012 9:16:25 PM PDT by nevermorelenore
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To: okie01

I’ll wait and see if anything really happens.....


33 posted on 08/12/2012 9:55:26 PM PDT by yield 2 the right (Staying Home for 2012: Try Again In 2016.)
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To: HollyB

Farrakhan, Rev. Wright or Van Jones?


34 posted on 08/12/2012 10:24:03 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Kaslin

Glad to hear this.
Issa keeps pushing forward.


35 posted on 08/13/2012 4:30:09 AM PDT by kidd
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To: little jeremiah

You are correct.


36 posted on 08/13/2012 4:34:07 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: bigbob

You should pay closer attention to Free Republic and then you wouldn’t expose your ignorance. We have learned every day of what has been learned by the committee and put forward as evidence culminating in a contempt resolution.


37 posted on 08/13/2012 4:36:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: yield 2 the right

Issa is doing what he lawfully can. He’s not a dictator. If Holder were a Republican the media would have gotten him hounded out of office by now and facing perjury charges. These are the simple facts of the country we live in.


38 posted on 08/13/2012 6:04:15 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: Kaslin

Holder will simply arrest Issa for Aggravated Felony Obstruction of the Administration.


39 posted on 08/13/2012 6:05:43 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I love the Universe, and it loves me.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
40 posted on 08/13/2012 6:33:17 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower

Sue him? The guy needs to be ARRESTED and tossed into a jail cell until the Sun burns out.


41 posted on 08/13/2012 6:46:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Kaslin
...relate to a botched gun-smuggling operation.

Dear Roll Call:

It wasn't a botched gun-smuggling operation. The regime did it on purpose.

Signed:

The Zapata Family, and hundreds of dead Mexicans you conveniently forgot to mention.

5.56mm

42 posted on 08/13/2012 7:01:28 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Kaslin

Obama Statement on the Resignation of Alberto Gonzales
August 27, 2007

Barack Obama today released the following statement on the resignation of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
“I have long believed that Alberto Gonzales subverted justice to promote a political agenda, and so I am pleased that he has finally resigned today. The President needs to nominate an Attorney General who will be the people’s lawyer, not the President’s lawyer, and in an Obama Administration that person will first and foremost defend and promote the rights and liberties enshrined in our Constitution,” said Obama.

Citation: Barack Obama: “Obama Statement on the Resignation of Alberto Gonzales,” August 27, 2007. Online by Gerhard Peters and John T. Woolley, The American Presidency Project. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=91002.


43 posted on 08/13/2012 7:08:02 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: HollyB
Must have been out to lunch.... the new law that was just passed.....what law might that be. Thanks.
44 posted on 08/13/2012 7:08:14 AM PDT by yoe (Vote for your Country, not a political party. or personal issues.)
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To: yoe

Ping to 7 for a better explanation. I misunderstood at first.


45 posted on 08/13/2012 7:33:11 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Kaslin

It’s Monday.

Just sayin’...


46 posted on 08/13/2012 7:56:12 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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