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Go Ahead, Imagine (Good Criticism of Lennon Lennon Song)
Front Page Mag ^ | August 24, 2011 | Evan Sayet

Posted on 08/13/2012 7:13:39 AM PDT by Loud Mime

Let’s take John Lennon up on his offer. Let’s imagine what the world would be like with no countries, religions or a heaven or hell. Let’s imagine a world with no possessions and nothing important enough to be willing to kill to protect it or die to ensure its continuing. Let’s imagine Lennon’s world where all the people are living for nothing other than today.

In this world, people will have saved no money for their retirement. After all, retirement is somewhere down the line. All the people would have massive debts – borrowed every penny from everywhere they could, maxed out their credit cards, bought houses they couldn’t pay for – because the promise to repay those debts were made yesterday. In Lennon’s world people would splurge on big screen TVs, using money that should have gone to buying health insurance, but, alas, the big game is tonight while their health at the moment is just fine.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012olympics; imagine; lennon; olympics; socialism
Our coffee shop group will be discussing this today - - be prepared for the liberals!
1 posted on 08/13/2012 7:13:50 AM PDT by Loud Mime
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To: Loud Mime

should have read: Lennon-Lenin


2 posted on 08/13/2012 7:15:25 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Are Pride-filled, judgmental christians qualified to be Christians?)
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To: Loud Mime

This makes me think of Moses the raven in the book “Animal Farm” who tried to get the animals to believe in Sugarcandy Mountain. Never liked John Lennon much anyway.


3 posted on 08/13/2012 7:17:52 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion, cigars and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: Loud Mime

I suppose when you are hallucinating on drugs there are no boundries.


4 posted on 08/13/2012 7:18:34 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Loud Mime

I cringed when I saw scores of CHILDREN singing Lennon’s Marxist anthem in the CLOSING CEREMONIES of the London 2012 Olympics, complete with his image in a giant screen and A likeness of Lennon being formed via a humongous puzzle...

These kids are being taught Marxist values at such a tender age... what will the future of Britain be if they hold to such sentiments when they grow up?

No possessions, no religion ??


5 posted on 08/13/2012 7:23:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: Loud Mime
Imagine never having to hear the insipid vapid naive Imagine again. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
6 posted on 08/13/2012 7:25:56 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Loud Mime
According to his personal aide, Lennon later turned into a conservative, primarily due to Reagan.

CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-20075519-10391698.html

Toronto Sun: http://www.torontosun.com/2011/06/28/lennon-was-a-closet-republican-assistant

LA Times: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/john-lennon-was-a-closet-reagan-republican-claims-former-assistant.html
7 posted on 08/13/2012 7:27:10 AM PDT by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: NRA1995

Orwell’s writings are some of my favorites!


8 posted on 08/13/2012 7:28:14 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Are Pride-filled, judgmental christians qualified to be Christians?)
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To: Loud Mime; NRA1995; freekitty; SeekAndFind; Rummyfan; Verbosus

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin promised the same thing in 1917.

A worldwide revolution of the proletariat.

The entire globe would be socialist with no countries, no religion, no possessions, no greed and no hunger. The world would live as one.


9 posted on 08/13/2012 7:32:25 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Loud Mime

It helps to imagine all this mental mucus when one is on drugs.


10 posted on 08/13/2012 7:34:17 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Loud Mime

I like Paul Shanklin’s version better........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9RCygMfIG8


11 posted on 08/13/2012 7:34:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Rummyfan

I think Yoko wrote it.


12 posted on 08/13/2012 7:36:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Loud Mime
"Comrade Lenin cleans the Earth from scum"


13 posted on 08/13/2012 7:37:35 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925
The entire globe would be socialist with no countries, no religion, no possessions, no greed and no hunger.

Sounds like the EU.

14 posted on 08/13/2012 7:37:44 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Verbosus
Yes, he did. And it is no coincidence that he got off weed at about the same time too.

There's a reason that one of the big initiatives of George Soros is to push for drug legalization.

15 posted on 08/13/2012 7:40:42 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Loud Mime

I’ll try this.


16 posted on 08/13/2012 7:41:05 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought the producers’ reverent treatment of Lennon’s “Imagine” was an interesting contrast to the roller skating, girts-flashing nuns in Eric Idle’s comedy routine.


17 posted on 08/13/2012 7:50:43 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: NRA1995

Never liked John Lennon much anyway.

I know I’ll catch some slack for this but, me neither.
I never could buy into the Lennon genius thing.


18 posted on 08/13/2012 7:51:26 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: dfwgator

I think Yoko wrote it.

Just thank goodness she didn’t sing it.


19 posted on 08/13/2012 7:52:21 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Bitsy

The more I listen to the Beatles over the years, I am convinced that Lennon simply rode on Paul’s coattails.


20 posted on 08/13/2012 7:52:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Bitsy

And what kind of country is it where John Lennon gets six bullets in the chest and Yoko is right next to him and not a single bullet? Chapman could have been a hero.


21 posted on 08/13/2012 7:54:47 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Loud Mime

Imagine there’s no Heaven,

It easy if you lie,

No Hell below us, that is, until you die.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvIbqf7MuE0


22 posted on 08/13/2012 7:56:30 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute actual sinner, + trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Rummyfan

I was a junior in high school when the song came out. At the time I listened to the lyrics and came to the same conclusion this article does.

It’s lunacy. I lost all respect for lennon as anything but a songwriter with that song. I say that because a lot of songs have vapid lyrics, but usually they re love songs.

This one exposed some fundamental fails on his part regarding his world view and understanding of human nature.


23 posted on 08/13/2012 7:57:36 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Bitsy

Any respect I may have had for him, admittedly little, took flight when he married that caterwauling Japanese potbellied pig.


24 posted on 08/13/2012 8:08:14 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion, cigars and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: Loud Mime

Imagine it for two minutes, then recognize how unrealizable as goal it is, and come back to reality.


25 posted on 08/13/2012 8:14:33 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Loud Mime

♫ Imagine there's no Yoko ♫


26 posted on 08/13/2012 8:21:19 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Whatever a homosexual union might be or represent, it is not physically marital. - F.Cardinal George)
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To: Loud Mime
The guy who wrote the line Imagine there's no possessions left a $200 million dollar estate that has since grown to a billion.

That's the proper context for all the utopian nonsense contained in that song.

27 posted on 08/13/2012 8:25:25 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Loud Mime

>>Our coffee shop group will be discussing this today - - be prepared for the liberals!<<<

Ask them if they know the significance of Aleister Crowley’s picture on the Sgt. Pepper’s album cover.


28 posted on 08/13/2012 8:26:10 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Rummyfan

Johnnie was OK, till the lads got caught up in drugs. Turned out to be a pompous ass, and his musical ability cratered, such as it was.

Most over-rated band ever, hands down.


29 posted on 08/13/2012 8:37:44 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Loud Mime; All

The author make an assumption there would be money, thus debt, in this imagined world or that there’d even be a need to “save for retirement.”


30 posted on 08/13/2012 8:39:43 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 85 days away.)
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To: dfwgator

Harrison too. Lousy gutarist, couldn’t sing, more insipid lyrics.


31 posted on 08/13/2012 8:40:45 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US

John was definitely the leader of the Beatles in their early days, when they mostly performed cover versions of songs...but clearly once they hit their “creative phase” it was mostly Paul.


32 posted on 08/13/2012 8:41:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
John Lennon gets six bullets in the chest
That's when he became the mart yer for the leftist cause.
33 posted on 08/13/2012 8:42:29 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Freedom4US

Paul was a better guitarist than George (his solo on “Maybe I’m Amazed” proved that), and he was a pretty capable drummer too. Amazing all-around musician.


34 posted on 08/13/2012 8:44:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Freedom4US

Most over-rated band ever, hands down. Agreed. 60’s leftists keep the legend going though.


35 posted on 08/13/2012 8:52:14 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Loud Mime
If he only imagined and bought a bulletproof vest instead.
36 posted on 08/13/2012 8:53:24 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: dfwgator

I am convinced that Lennon simply rode on Paul’s coattails.

I guess that is what marginal artists do.


37 posted on 08/13/2012 8:54:04 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Freedom4US
Most over-rated band ever, hands down.

Amen. Preach on, brother, whilst I don my flame-retardant suit.

38 posted on 08/13/2012 9:29:19 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Bitsy
60’s leftists keep the legend going though.

Agreed. And it ain't just about the Beatles, either.

I did a LOT of stupid things when I was young. Rarely do I fondly reminisce about the most stupid of them. Not 60's Liberals. For instance, a 3-day drug-fueled orgy at Woodstock? I don't see much there to be proud of. From what I've seen, the PA was terrible too, so the is more fondly remembered, than was actually played.

39 posted on 08/13/2012 9:36:04 AM PDT by wbill
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To: moonshot925
"Lenin"

Not all socialists who traveled to Russia to see Lenin and the new socialist society came away enamored. H.G. Wells (no conservative theorist) after an interview with Lenin, came away thinking that Lenin was off his rocker. Unfortunately, Wells's view of Lenin was not shared by most foreign, socialist visitors.

40 posted on 08/13/2012 10:02:58 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: dfwgator

“The more I listen to the Beatles over the years, I am convinced that Lennon simply rode on Paul’s coattails.”

I agree. I’m a huge Beatles fan and I’ve always thought that John was way over blown. He’s not as good as many have praised him to be. I don’t think he was the “brainy” one.

I always liked the songs written by Paul and George. Paul’s were usually simple love songs and songs about people. George was on a quest to find God in his songs. He was looking for enlightenment.

Hell, even the songs of Ringo had more humanity in them than those written by John. John seemed to always be trying to live up to the “genius” label that so many tried to attach to his writings. I guess I never saw it myself.

I liked John, but I never saw him as a genius or as the best song writer of the bunch.

How John treated his wife and son (Cynthia and Julian) turned me off of anything John had to say about love and people. How could a man who abandoned his son be a voice for how to love one another?

He could play with words to make a song catchy, but his ability to preach ideas to us was drowned out by his own behavior towards his first wife and son.


41 posted on 08/13/2012 10:40:00 AM PDT by History Repeats (Drink plenty of TEA, but avoid the Koolaid.)
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To: wbill

Allow me to expand - thank you for your kind words.

Maybe the most over _hyped_ band. Lots of advertising, and quite a few talented people behind the scenes, like George Martin who was able to combine his technical expertise into marketing a new genre.

Seems to me an awful lot of material was just sub par, yet the scraps from the cutting room floor are received As Great Wisdom from adherents. I shouldda known better. Hm. To add insult to injury, the “British Invasian” spawned a host of American imitators, so slicked up plastic hippies with a guitar and amplifier trolling around the countryside corrupting our youth with bad drugs and psychobabble. Very talented musicians weren’t able to
ply their wares in quite the same way, as they weren’t “cool” or “hip”.


42 posted on 08/14/2012 4:20:56 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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