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‘Nanny State’ Wants No Firearms for Russians
en.rian.ru ^ | 31 July, 2012 | Alexey Eremenko

Posted on 08/13/2012 10:30:32 AM PDT by marktwain

In December 1917, weeks after coming to power, the Bolsheviks launched a drive to confiscate all firearms from the hands of the Russian populace. They never gave them back.

Old habits die hard, and Russia’s restrictive gun legislation was never seriously softened over the past 100 years, despite regular calls to the purpose, the latest of which came last week from a pro-Kremlin senator.

Those who oppose firearms are wary of the temperamental populace, predicting shooting rampages and an increase in murder rates.

But some skeptics claim the real reason the Kremlin is not allowing the public to own firearms is fear that armed citizens will turn their guns on the country's notoriously corrupt bureaucrats.

“They’ll just start killing off officials,” said Mikhail Pashkin, head of the Moscow Police Labor Union.

(Excerpt) Read more at en.rian.ru ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; constitution; defense; govtabuse; obama; russia; tyranny
A very interesting analysis by a clearthinking russian. Stupid comment by a Candian.
1 posted on 08/13/2012 10:30:35 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Pashkin probably has it right. That’s why they won’t chage their gun laws. dear Leader here is working very hard to be just like his commie forebearers across the board!


2 posted on 08/13/2012 10:42:27 AM PDT by texson66 (In the words of Kent Brockman, "As for myself, I welcome our new commie overlords...")
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To: marktwain
“They’ll just start killing off officials,” said Mikhail Pashkin, head of the Moscow Police Labor Union.

He says that like it's a bad thing....

3 posted on 08/13/2012 10:55:29 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: marktwain
Guns + Typical Russian Temperaments + Vodka enough to float the "Potemkin" = I'm gonna enjoy watching this from the 50 with my beer and popcorn......


Kinda like Sergio Leone meets Sergei Eisenstein.
4 posted on 08/13/2012 11:01:13 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: texson66

Putin doesn’t wanna recreate the Soviet Union under Communism.

Putin wants to re-create the Imperial Russian Empire with himself as Czar.

Actually, being related to the Romanovs gives Putin almost a legitimate claim to that title......


5 posted on 08/13/2012 11:05:22 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: marktwain

When I worked with the Soviets in the late 80’s, they were required to register knives. It was common for a person to make their own tools and if you made a knife and did not register it, the punishment was time in a hard labor camp.
But I assume the Russian Mafia has always had its own guns and knives...


6 posted on 08/13/2012 11:06:19 AM PDT by ransomnote
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I would bet there’s a huge underground traffic in any type of weapon you could want in Russia.


7 posted on 08/13/2012 11:21:26 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Putin doesn’t wanna recreate the Soviet Union under Communism.

Putin wants to re-create the Imperial Russian Empire with himself as Czar.

Pretty much, but it is certain to be better than Soviet Communism, Marxism, or even run of the mill Socialism.

The left and journalists are much dis empowered in Putin's Russian Federation, thus the constant whine.

8 posted on 08/13/2012 11:28:54 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Poissible descent from the princes of Tver does not make him a Romanov. The Zakharin-Yuriev clan, aka Romanovs were Muscovites.


9 posted on 08/13/2012 11:31:35 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: marktwain
In December 1917, weeks after coming to power, the Bolsheviks launched a drive to confiscate all firearms from the hands of the Russian populace. They never gave them back. ***


10 posted on 08/13/2012 12:23:43 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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Did they even get a friggin’ gift certificate???!!/s;)


11 posted on 08/13/2012 3:58:07 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Anyone who hasn’t learned a lesson from the tyrants of the 20th Century and armed up nicely is a damned fool.

From my FR profile page:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago


12 posted on 08/13/2012 4:08:30 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ransomnote

>>>>>>When I worked with the Soviets in the late 80’s, they were required to register knives. It was common for a person to make their own tools and if you made a knife and did not register it, the punishment was time in a hard labor camp.
But I assume the Russian Mafia has always had its own guns and knives...>>>>>>>

In fact current Russian legislation allows many guns you won’t even dream about in America.
They don’t have “assault” ban. Most firearms over 2,5 ft in lengh aren’t prohibited as soon as it is not full auto. Caliber is limited as well at about .50 to leave no chance for citizens to claim legal ownership of mortars and other artrillery.
Thus, full auto rule is often overlooked by government in Southern Russia there people has to deal with muslim problem. There is a kind of don’t ask don’t tell about it. Most people has AKs in their basements and there is no legal action about it.
If one buys a surplus tank or APC (it was popular for agricultural purposed in earlier 90s) one has to remove armament and targeting equipment as well.
Handguns are very limited but you can get lisenced as a security guard and have your permit to carry.


13 posted on 08/13/2012 11:03:36 PM PDT by cunning_fish (.)
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To: cunning_fish
Pointed knife right goes with a smoothbore permit.

Handguns require owning a security company, I'd say and carrying it around in the street means a pile of paperwork.

14 posted on 08/14/2012 6:28:43 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: cunning_fish

Thank you - I found your post quite interesting.


15 posted on 08/14/2012 12:33:16 PM PDT by ransomnote
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