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The Secrets of Hissing Trees(Methane,Hissing Seem Inextricably Intertwined Perhaps Cosmic By Design)
New York Times ^ | August 10, 2012 | Joanne Foster

Posted on 08/13/2012 1:16:41 PM PDT by lbryce

Three years ago, a researcher collecting tree core samples in Connecticut was startled to see one of the trees begin to hiss and spit. Even more surprising, he found that the leaking gas could be set on fire.

It’s been known since around the 1970’s that a relatively rare bacterial infection in trees responsible for the damaging rot known as wet wood can cause trees to emit methane, a greenhouse gas with 20 times the warming potential of carbon dioxide. Trees in wetland soils can also act as straws, sipping methane from soggy, oxygen-poor soil.

Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies A flame fueled by methane shoots out of an oak tree being cored in Yale Myers Forest in Connecticut. But scientists from the Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies believe that trees in upland forests infected with an almost ubiquitous fungus may also be a significant source of the potent greenhouse gas. Their findings appeared this week in Geophysical Review Letters.

The researchers found average concentrations of 15,000 parts per million inside trees in the Yale Myers forest in northeastern Connecticut, which is managed by the university’s forestry school. Ambient air concentrations of methane are usually less than two parts per million.

All that methane comes from microorganisms known as methanogens — no strangers to the guts of cows — which thrive in the oxygen-depleted environment created by fungal decay in the trees and release methane as a byproduct of their metabolism.

This methane translates to a warming potential equivalent to about 18 percent of the carbon being sequestered by these forests.

Kristofer Covey, a doctoral candidate at Yale and the lead author on the paper, emphasized that the research does not suggest in any way that such forests are an environmental negative.

(Excerpt) Read more at green.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: methane; nature; science; trees
Methane and hissing. Nature seems to have a sense of humor chemically inextricably connecting methane and hissing, guttural sounds whimsically cosmic by design. It would not surprise me to would find similar terrestrial phenomena across the most far away parts of the universe due to the oneness of chemicals, elements in universal abundance juxtaposed in a way to make the chemical connection between gas and sound.
1 posted on 08/13/2012 1:16:52 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Oh the horror. And, I thought trees were our friends.

Now, I guess, they’re on the EPA’s Death List.


2 posted on 08/13/2012 1:22:23 PM PDT by moovova
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To: lbryce

your not suggesting that a tree fart is a tree fart, are you?


3 posted on 08/13/2012 1:23:52 PM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette

you’re not your...jeesh.


4 posted on 08/13/2012 1:26:56 PM PDT by brivette
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To: lbryce

Hmm, envision hundreds no thousands of hoses connected to the trees similar to tapping Maple trees for syrup and all those hoses connected to a burner for a boiler and the steam used to make electricity.

Tree far#$ for energy! Nature’s, natural gas.

Watch out if you hug a tree, it might break wind in your general direction.


5 posted on 08/13/2012 1:28:01 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: lbryce
"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do"
-- Ronald Reagan

And the media laughed.

6 posted on 08/13/2012 1:28:40 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: lbryce

No one can hear you fart, in space.


7 posted on 08/13/2012 1:28:50 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To: lbryce

Ronald Reagan was right. Between CO2, CH4 and oxides of nitrogen, the damn trees are soon going to have the temperature on earth roughly equal to that of a pizza oven. We need to cut every single on of them down immediately.


8 posted on 08/13/2012 1:28:56 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today.)
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To: lbryce

Kristofer Covey, a doctoral candidate at Yale and the lead author on the paper, emphasized that the research does not suggest in any way that such forests are an environmental negative.


And once again the headline does not match the article


9 posted on 08/13/2012 1:29:17 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: lbryce

Ronald Reagan was right. Between CO2, CH4 and oxides of nitrogen, the damn trees are soon going to have the temperature on earth roughly equal to that of a pizza oven. We need to cut every single one of them down immediately.


10 posted on 08/13/2012 1:29:17 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today.)
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To: lbryce
It would not surprise me to would find similar terrestrial phenomena across the most far away parts of the universe...


11 posted on 08/13/2012 1:31:04 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To: lbryce

Damn, now we’ve gotta cut down all the trees....then what will the libs hug?


12 posted on 08/13/2012 1:42:09 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: brivette
"Here, pull my finger."


13 posted on 08/13/2012 1:42:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To: lbryce

Tree farts cause global warming!!!


14 posted on 08/13/2012 1:50:52 PM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

"The Flatulent Elm of West Ruislip!"

15 posted on 08/13/2012 1:56:16 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: lbryce

PULL MY FINGER

16 posted on 08/13/2012 2:01:05 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: lbryce

(sure glad I was between the soda & the cigarette!) This is sooo priceless!
Thank you for making my day!


17 posted on 08/13/2012 2:18:24 PM PDT by KGeorge (R2- now THAT, I like!)
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To: lbryce

Does anyone remember when Ronaldus Magnus made the statement that some trees are themselves polluters, and the catcalls and razzberries he received from the geen nut nature worshippers and the dim bulbs in the media? And now comes this report. Whattayaknow?!


18 posted on 08/13/2012 2:24:40 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: brivette

The great new philosophical conundrum of our day is;
if a tree farts in the forest and no one hears it fart, can you still actually smell it?


19 posted on 08/13/2012 2:31:29 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: brivette

The great new philosophical conundrum of our day is;
if a tree farts in the forest and no one hears it fart, can you still actually smell it?


20 posted on 08/13/2012 2:31:46 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: lbryce


Three years ago, a researcher collecting tree core samples in Connecticut was startled to see one of the trees begin to hiss and spit. Even more surprising, he found that the leaking gas could be set on fire.

Somewhere, Beavis just got wood.


21 posted on 08/13/2012 2:38:09 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: lbryce

A flame fueled by methane shoots out of an oak tree being cored in Yale Myers Forest in Connecticut.

...researchers found average concentrations of 15,000 parts per million inside trees

The Lower Flammability Limit of methane is 4.5 to 5.0 percent by volume in air. That's 45,000 to 50,000 ppmv. I guess if 15,000 ppm was average, they could have found higher concentrations. OK, passes the smell test.

22 posted on 08/13/2012 3:56:52 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: UCANSEE2

Which brings up an interesting question. Does the chemical make-up that comprise the olfactory molecules travel in space and detectable by the olfactory nerves in the nostrils? Probably not, but if they do, no one may actually hear you fart in space but especially if it is only the two of you, they’ll know you transported unauthorized contraband methane gas and then be subject to the class-3 felony punishment in which importing methane gas is strictly enforced.


23 posted on 08/13/2012 4:29:12 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: lbryce
Does the chemical make-up that comprise the olfactory molecules travel in space and detectable by the olfactory nerves in the nostrils?


24 posted on 08/14/2012 11:22:41 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (If we were all equal, it would be a very boring world.)
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To: UCANSEE2
The astronaut allegedly has a sign advising not to fart in a space suit. He doesn't say why, or what the repercussions might be.

But, if NASA had any foresight, looking "out of the box" for safety systems innovations, say, in the event of a spacesuit jet-nozzle failure/loss of fuel and subsequent inability for the astronaut to navigate in space essentially stranding him without the ability to move, NASA would have a very "elegant" back-up rescue system with nozzles built into the spacesuit directly behind the anal fart-gas sphincter which would allow a stranded astronaut some modicum of movement, control, navigation and with only a few grams of beans in a pre-space walk meal, or even have the astronaut with access to dried bean paste within the space suit as Apollo astronauts had for their own energy and nourishment, it might some day save a life. Don't laugh. I see the headline now. March 26, 2098; "Stranded Astronaut Farts Himself to Safety."

25 posted on 08/14/2012 12:22:56 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: lbryce
The astronaut allegedly has a sign advising not to fart in a space suit. He doesn't say why, or what the repercussions might be.

First, I'm sure that 'sign' was photoshopped.

Second, the WHY or WHAT would happen seem obvious. I've never been in a Space Suit, so maybe it's not really obvious. Makes one wonder what would happen if one were to suddenly overpressurize their suit.

26 posted on 08/14/2012 2:33:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (If we were all equal, it would be a very boring world.)
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To: lbryce

Perhaps this clip will help answer some questions.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1600734/rocket_man_farting_in_space/


27 posted on 08/14/2012 2:37:20 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (If we were all equal, it would be a very boring world.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Very entertaining. Thank you very much for taking the time to enlighten me on this subject. The thing is I have no special interest or fetish regarding flatulence. Nevertheless, hardcore science abounds if you know where to look. or where to put your senses.


28 posted on 08/14/2012 4:26:21 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: moovova
"Oh the horror. And, I thought trees were our friends."

Trees are evil!


29 posted on 08/14/2012 10:06:48 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: clearcarbon

That’s a good one. Thanks.


30 posted on 08/15/2012 4:35:14 AM PDT by moovova (OMG...Obama Must Go)
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To: moovova

And, I thought trees were our friends.


Trees are our friends; but they won’t pick you up at the airport.


31 posted on 08/15/2012 4:42:07 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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