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Cooperation strengthens: Chinese fleet vessels anchor in Israel
idf.il ^ | 13/08/2012 | IDF Website

Posted on 08/14/2012 10:39:56 AM PDT by klpt

Vessels from the Chinese fleet anchored at the Haifa port in northern Israel today, (Monday, August 13). The vessels and Chinese crewmen arrived in Israel to visit the Israeli Navy and were welcomed by Haifa base commander, Brig. Gen. Eli Sharvit. The Vessels from the Chinese fleet, led by deputy commander of the northern Chinese fleet RADM. Yang Jun-fei, anchored in Israel to honor 20 years of cooperation between the IDF and the Chinese Army. During their stay in Israel they will visit the IDF Naval Officers' Academy, lay a wreath at the Yad Vashem memorial site in memory of Holocaust victims, and visit different Israeli tourist attractions.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; israel

1 posted on 08/14/2012 10:40:07 AM PDT by klpt
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2 posted on 08/14/2012 10:41:32 AM PDT by klpt
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To: klpt

Figures. Jewish folk love Chinese food!


3 posted on 08/14/2012 10:45:56 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Can't Count.)
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To: klpt

There has to be an ulterior motive here. I don’t trust the Chinese as far as I can throw them.


4 posted on 08/14/2012 10:46:08 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: klpt

When you create a power vacuum, someone will fill it.


5 posted on 08/14/2012 10:46:25 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: RightFighter

There can be only one motive - China intends to challenge the USA’s global influence. Without Israel we are without a reliable ally in the middle east.


6 posted on 08/14/2012 10:49:12 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

As long as Hussein is in the White House, Israel will have to find other friends.


7 posted on 08/14/2012 10:50:42 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: klpt

Israel is being prudent to keep friendly with the chinese, if Obama gets another four years, they won’t be able to count on our regime.


8 posted on 08/14/2012 10:52:41 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: RightFighter
There has to be an ulterior motive here. I don’t trust the Chinese as far as I can throw them.

Maybe they're smart enough to see the islamic barbarians for what they are.

9 posted on 08/14/2012 10:55:16 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as Created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Signalman

But Hussien doesn’t need any more allies in the middle east. He’s already got more than he can handle.


10 posted on 08/14/2012 10:55:41 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Well, since Israel is without a reliable ally in the US, what do you expect?


11 posted on 08/14/2012 11:02:03 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: klpt

Perhaps they are selling our secrets to China again or ratting out the CIA. There is only one nation I trust, and it is our own nation. There was a reason we were warned about entangling relationships from our founding fathers. The bribed politicians of today have no loyalty to anyone but their bank account.

George Washington and Jefferson had many astounding philosophies, including encouraging ownership of firearms, that the elite of today discourage.

The had foresight and wrote the Constitution but our corrupt pols are working to change it.


12 posted on 08/14/2012 11:02:31 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: klpt
Welcome aboard Mr. Sulu. Please set a course for the Regulon sector.


14 posted on 08/14/2012 11:32:35 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: apoliticalone

I agree that Israel could be betraying us, selling our secrets (again) to China, but they are probably feeling that they are justified due to the treachery and hostility of Obama against Israel.


15 posted on 08/14/2012 11:45:54 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: klpt
It's nothing but a culinary exchange!


16 posted on 08/14/2012 11:51:19 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Paul Ross

When billions of our tax dollars (mine included) are going to another country including Israel, said country should be thanking us instead of selling our secrets, regardless of our internal politics.

It is not only my right as a substantial taxpayer to complain about my tax dollars going to those who sell us out, it is my obligation. As a vet and natural born American I put one and only one country first - USA. The others can go to ......

George Washington was far ahead of his time and stated we need to end entangling alliances, and especially those that cost us billions of our tax dollars while selling us out and spying on us. Corrupt politicians are the root of our problem, not necessarily politics. Eliminate the greedy self serving scum suckers and we might just get our nation back.


17 posted on 08/14/2012 3:23:28 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks klpt.
During their stay in Israel they will visit the IDF Naval Officers' Academy, lay a wreath at the Yad Vashem memorial site in memory of Holocaust victims, and visit different Israeli tourist attractions.

18 posted on 08/14/2012 4:07:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915759/posts?page=6#6


19 posted on 08/14/2012 4:21:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: apoliticalone
When billions of our tax dollars (mine included) are going to another country including Israel, said country should be thanking us instead of selling our secrets, regardless of our internal politics.
We should not be giving Israel or its enemies money. However, there is no evidence that Israel is currently selling our secrets. We, on the other hand, arm and train Israels enemies and along with the Eurabians, spy on Israel for the PLO.
20 posted on 08/14/2012 4:40:34 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

I still remember those spies such as Jonathan Pollard who sold us out.

There are many Americans who believe we should borrow even more from China so we can give more to Israel, when Americans are being shafted. I’m not one. I don’t care one iota about Ireland, Italy, Vatican, Germany (which is my homeland) OR Israel. They can all figure out how to survive without stiffing Americans.

I only care about a stronger more prosperous USA for Americans. I figure if an American can’t say that, they need to move elsewhere.


21 posted on 08/14/2012 4:51:05 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: apoliticalone
I still remember those spies such as Jonathan Pollard who sold us out.
Jonathan Pollard gave Israel information on Iraq's nuclear program, information which we should have given Israel. Pollard committed an act of espionage and is in jail where he belongs. Unfortunately he was also blamed for giving the Israelis and somehow the Soviets information on subjects he never had access to. He was blamed for the treason of Aldrich Ames and Robert Hansen. Easier to blame the Jew than look people still there. That turned out real well. It has led to a situation today, where we hire members of the Muslim Brotherhood, but will not hire Sephardic Jews to translate Arabic documents.

There are many Americans who believe we should borrow even more from China so we can give more to Israel, when Americans are being shafted.
3 Billion dollards is a rounding error for the Federal government. We give more the Arabs. We should not be giving to anyone.

I only care about a stronger more prosperous USA for Americans. I figure if an American can’t say that, they need to move elsewhere.
I wasn't aware that patriotism meant hating the rest of the world.

22 posted on 08/14/2012 5:26:45 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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23 posted on 08/14/2012 6:02:54 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: Revolting cat!

Believe it or not, there are kosher Chinese restaurants in Israel.


24 posted on 08/14/2012 8:13:49 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: RexBeach

Only places open on 12/25.


25 posted on 08/15/2012 9:26:25 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: skeeter

“There can be only one motive - China intends to challenge the USA’s global influence. Without Israel we are without a reliable ally in the middle east.”

Correct. And China correctly reads that the USA (under Obama) has abandoned Israel.

Further, Israel and India are growing very close, which scares the s—t out of China. An India with Israeli-designed weapons would easily counter-balance China.


26 posted on 08/15/2012 9:31:21 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: apoliticalone

You’re right.


27 posted on 08/16/2012 2:45:16 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: apoliticalone

“There are many Americans who believe we should borrow even more from China so we can give more to Israel, when Americans are being shafted.”

Thanks for your service, now stop sputtering BULLSHIT. NO ONE ha ever said America should borrow more from China to give to Israel.

And we notice you are VERY silent on the MANY BILLIONS MORE we give to the jihadi scum who are killing Americans (AND ISRAELIS).

Stop sputtering BULLSHIT.


28 posted on 08/17/2012 12:47:31 AM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: apoliticalone
I still remember those spies such as Jonathan Pollard who sold us out.

Sure you do. Maybe you should take a closer look at our production of Abrams and supply to Egypt. I know you always loved Hillary for her mind.
29 posted on 08/17/2012 1:04:26 AM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: klpt

Oslo harbor 1940?


30 posted on 08/17/2012 4:04:25 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Yehuda

“Thanks for your service, now stop sputtering BULLSHIT. NO ONE ha ever said America should borrow more from China to give to Israel.”

BS? Where does the money come from that we send as foreign aid to Israel and others if not from taxpayers, or borrowed from China? Yeah the Fed Reserve prints it and charges us interest too.

It doesn’t make me warm and fuzzy when I see Israel and China schmoozing, does it you? We lost much technology to China via Israel exports when US companies were banned from exporting. Google: Israel China US technology

We USA taxpayers and patriots have an obligation and a right to have an opinion where our money and debt is going. If I had my druthers not one dime would be going to Israel, or to any OTHER country until we had the USA back in the black. It is time to end these giveaways. Israel debt per person is $12K and the USA is $50K. It is absurd that we transfer US wealth to other countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt


31 posted on 08/17/2012 5:11:08 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Yehuda

No BS.

Just saying.

We give away too much money. Period.


32 posted on 08/17/2012 5:15:30 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Jewbacca

“There can be only one motive - China intends to challenge the USA’s global influence. Without Israel we are without a reliable ally in the middle east.”

We should get out of the Middle East entirely. The turmoil there has made it a septic tank for US lives and dollars for decades, and it has gained us nothing. Let the people that live there decide how they wish to live and interact.

We are energy independent now.


33 posted on 08/17/2012 5:17:27 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: apoliticalone

You originally said “There are many Americans who believe we should borrow even more from China so we can give more to Israel, when Americans are being shafted.”

THATS A FREAKING LIE AND A SLANDER.

Everything else you wrote in #31 is logical and absolutely correct.

Next time leave your jew-hating BS out of it, and you might be taken more seriously.


34 posted on 08/17/2012 9:01:57 AM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Yehuda

Sorry you feel that a claim of lies and slander is in order.

Foreign aid commitments from saddled Americans by bribed politicians has been my pet peeve for many years, so please tolerate my intolerance of this transfer of our wealth using the term “foreign aid”.

I equate foreign aid to the pro-sports owners that get free multi-billion dollar taxpayer built stadiums from their political cronies (that they bribe) so they can pay their celebrity workers 100 million dollar contracts, while the rest of us subsidize this transfer of wealth. Corruption and cronyism is always the game.

As a result of foreign aid every American faces higher taxes and we have less money here for what we need, even if it wasn’t borrowed from China (but it is). We have USA priorities be it roads, vets or whatever. Each American is on the hook for 50K to cover our own debt. When I see our debt building because politicians on the take give it away to other countries, we the American people are undoubtedly getting shafted.

Not one dime should leave the USA until our vet’s problems are solved, etc and the USA is back in the black. Rant about Jew hating BS all you want, but it isn’t going to change why the USA should be keeping our billions at home so as to rebuild the USA.

There something I find outrageous about sleazebag politicians giving my tax money away to other countries at the behest of lobbyists who promise they support their and reelection by promises on giving away my money that bothers me. I don’t care what country they represent, I want them out of my pockets. To repeat, I want them out of MY POCKETS now, and that is my right as a taxpayer without being being ridiculed as a racist by those on the dole.

Some like to say “these billions are only a rounding error”. For those politicians spending other people’s money it might be a rounding error, but for me every dime, let alone every billion counts. I want my money to stay right here reinvested in the USA. You want yours to go elsewhere then donate it directly, but from my taxes and through the USA Treasury?

A government that forcibly transfers my money elsewhere is transferring my wealth. It is our money and it needs to stay here otherwise it is a forced transfer of our wealth (by crooked politicians on the take) to other countries. Makes no difference on the country....if it is other countries and it needs to end.

Sorry if this overly wordy post offends your priorities.


35 posted on 08/17/2012 4:30:41 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: apoliticalone

For someone who goes on and on, you should really learn how to read:

You originally said “There are many Americans who believe we should borrow even more from China so we can give more to Israel, when Americans are being shafted.”

THATS STILL A FREAKING LIE AND A SLANDER.

Everything else you wrote in #31 (and everything in #35 between your first and last paras) is logical and absolutely correct.

OTHERWISE you are just another Jew-hating gasbag.

EVERYONE HERE wants less /zero foreign aid TO EVERYWHERE, (including Israel).

Only JACKWADS LIE and write “There are many Americans who believe we should borrow even more from China so we can give more to Israel,”.


36 posted on 08/20/2012 12:41:38 PM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Paul Ross

Israel will do what it has to do to avoid the “springy” genocide that Soros, Bam and Hitlerly have established via the Muslim Brotherhood.

But, I don’t trust China.


37 posted on 08/20/2012 1:07:59 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson; SJackson; klpt
And neither, apparently, does Israel.

Indian navy warships on goodwill visit to Israel to celebrate diplomatic ties.

38 posted on 08/20/2012 4:59:52 PM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Yehuda

You are correct. I made a faux pas. There are not “many” Americans who believe this, but a relative few, but they are in positions like big campaign donors and lobbyists who believe we should give more, not less to Israel and they don’t care where it comes from.

Personally I believe we should give absolutely nothing in foreign aid to ANY country including Israel. Those who want their pet country to on the dole to Americans should give what they can afford out of their own bank account, and not out of the US Treasury.

We need to take care of the USA first and if we have anything left then worry about others. But with $15T in debt it is doubtful that we can justify bailing out others, better off than the USA in my lifetime.

BTW please either discuss this rationally, or don’t discuss it at all, because I don’t have the time or inclination to read irrational and absurd claims and screaming. Take care.

I don’t want even one dime of my tax dollars going offshore. If the hacks in Congress don’t have the guts to say that, I will.


39 posted on 08/20/2012 5:25:02 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: apoliticalone

“There are not “many” Americans who believe this,”

NAME 1 AMERICAN, JEWISH OR OTHERWISE, WHO SAYS WE SHOULD BORROW MORE FROM CHINA TO GIVE TO ISRAEL.

And don’t spout off at me about being rational. You are continuing this to simply get your Jew-hate out. For the few idiots like you here who think “its all about the JOOS” the rest see you as just as stupid and dangerous to AMERICA as the jihadis and the commies.

Here’s a hot tip for you, genius. Most Jews (and Christian supporters of Israel) here on FR would be very happy for Israel to take not 1 dime more of aid from the U.S. as long as it meant (a) ALSO no more aid to the jihadis, who I notice YOU SAY NOTHING ABOUT them getting MORE foreign aid than Israel and (b) then Israel wouldn’t be hamstrung by the U.S. and they could their homes wherever thy freaking please on their own land, and they could smoke every scum-sucking Jihadi friend of Ron Paul into dust.


40 posted on 08/20/2012 9:01:38 PM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Yehuda

Hear, hear.....it’s on me and a tall glass of kool-aid for you.

We USA tax payers have the obligation to tell our government where our taxes should go and where they shouldn’t. I’ve said for the umpteenth time in this thread I don’t want my taxes leaving the USA, and leaving includes not only Israel, but every other country that has their hooks in our treasury.

Do you want me say it slower? It has nothing to do with the Joos as you say, and everything to do with America. Other countries can fight their own wars and rebuild their own nations too.

Israel can do whatever they want too, and pay for it on their own, with their money, and with their young lives. Just don’t come calling for young Americans and old Americans like me to bear the burden of their actions.

Until the USA gets its act together economically we have no business getting involved in another war and subsidizing other countries. Those many others who feel differently and are willing to sacrifice their country and their offspring then go for it. I’m not willing or ready.


41 posted on 08/21/2012 3:55:07 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: apoliticalone

” Just don’t come calling for young Americans and old Americans like me to bear the burden of their actions.”

THEY NEVER HAVE, its only your fantasies and lies.


42 posted on 08/21/2012 10:01:41 PM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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