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Do Democrats Know Obama Cut Medicare?
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | August 14, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 08/14/2012 11:39:56 AM PDT by Kaslin

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RUSH: Are you sick and tired yet of hearing how Paul Ryan wants to kill Medicare? You know what's going to kill Medicare is Medicare. Medicare is going to eat itself. Medicare is going to implode if something isn't done about it, unless somebody does something to save it. And I'll tell you, I had a thought develop yesterday when we were discussing the $700 billion that Obama cuts from Medicare. It's not just that he took $700 billion from Medicare. He put that $700 billion elsewhere. Obama is robbing Medicare. Obama is the guy that's robbing money from Medicare.

By the time it's all said and done, when you factor interest over a number of years, you could accurately say that Obama is taking a trillion dollars out of Medicare and putting it elsewhere in Obamacare. It's not just an accounting move. It's a real transfer of money, in order to keep the overall reported cost down. I remember yesterday having so much trouble convincing people of this, because the meme is out there that Ryan's budget cuts Medicare.

I want to apologize for being so frustrated with Mr. Snerdley, but he was really stupid yesterday. Normally I say it to him a couple times and he understands it. But the whole show yesterday he was frowning at me like I was speaking a foreign language because he was so wedded to the idea that the Ryan budget cuts Medicare. He was so scared that we're going to get creamed on that. I said: "No, the Ryan budget doesn't cut Medicare. Nobody over 55 has anything different happen to them. And if you're under 55, you get to choose to stay in the current Medicare program or choose something else."

And then, ladies and gentlemen, I saw Debbie "Blabbermouth" Schultz on with Wolf Blitzer who took her to school on this. Debbie "Blabbermouth" Schultz, just as Rachel Maddow on Sunday, Meet the Press, Rich Lowry, played you those sound bites, she did not have an answer for the proposition that Obama is cutting $700 billion out of Medicare. She didn't have an answer. All she could say to Lowry's question about it was, "Well, I'm not running for anything." When we played it yesterday, part of me said, "Well, she may not know. She may not know." If Bo Snerdley, who is as informed as anybody except me, or I, on these things, if Bo Snerdley thinks that Ryan cuts $500 billion from Medicare, then certainly every Democrat believes it because why does anybody believe Ryan cuts 500? Because that's what the Democrats say.

So I'm thinking maybe Rachel Maddow doesn't even know. Not that she's lying, not that she was trying to cover up getting caught. She was stymied because she really didn't know. It may have been the first time that she heard that Obamacare cut $700 billion out of Medicare. Then I saw Debbie "Blabbermouth" Schultz on Wolf Blitzer and she didn't know. Now, with Debbie, you don't know if she didn't know or if she is lying about it or a combination of the two. But I began to wonder, all of these television Democrats, all of these so-called Democrat strategists, they may not know. They may not know what Obamacare has done to them. They may not know that they have an indefensible position.

They live off of a playbook that's very simple. Republicans equal what? Starving kids. Cutting Social Security. Kicking the elderly out of their homes. They believed it. They have uttered this by rote for so many decades that they believe it. Conservative Republican equals cuts. It's almost robotic. And when you hit them with, "No, no, Ryan doesn't cut any money out of Medicare. It's Obama, $700 billion." They're floored. They don't have any idea what to do. Really, it's almost like Rachel Maddow and Debbie "Blabbermouth" Schultz are hearing it for the first time. I'll have the sound bite coming for you in just a second.

Then, after thinking that, I ran into a piece at National Review Online by a man by the name of Yuval Levin, who has cowritten things with Pete Weiner, who is my friend, who worked with Rove in the Bush White House. By the way, Pete just announced -- I knew this weeks ago. I was sworn to secrecy on this, but I knew about it weeks ago, but he announced yesterday that he's joining the Romney campaign. He worked with Paul Ryan at Empower America with Bill Bennett and Jack Kemp back in the nineties. That stuff matters. Bill Bennett and Kemp were great mentors to these guys. It demonstrates that it's important where you go to school, who your mentors are.

Anyway, Yuval Levin has this piece at National review that Obamacare care changed everything. And listen to this paragraph. "I don’t think Axelrod and Maddow were just setting out to lie exactly -- it’s worse than that. Listening to them, it seemed as if they really hadn’t realized until now the situation they were in. They’re used to a certain order of things on Medicare and have not stopped to grasp what Obamacare has done to them. They assume it must be true that Republicans want to cut benefits and Democrats want to preserve them. But it’s not true, not anymore. You could see that panicked realization slowly rising in Maddow’s eyes as she was pressed."

That's exactly what I thought. And with Debbie "Blabbermouth" Schultz, the same thing. So then I began to think: What an opportunity this is. These people, we know they've been lying to us. Now they're lying to themselves. They are in a perfect position from our standpoint to be embarrassed. I think one of the greatest things that's happening here, one of the most positive effects of the selection of Paul Ryan in this campaign, we are already talking more about the issues, and we are double down serious, double down truthful on Medicare, the economy. We're not talking about personalities anymore. We're not talking about Romney and his steel worker's wife being murdered and all that. And we're not even talking about Obama's personality. We're talking about root ideas.

Now, I also have to admit, folks, if you would have told me 20 years ago that in my 25th year on this program Medicare would be one of the prime topics, I would have told you, "Well, then I won't have anybody listening to my show if that's what I'm talking about." Because if I'm talking about Medicare, Social Security, you know what that means? That means I'm finished. Now look what's happened. It has effervesced. It's bubbled up to the top, and it's because of the situation that we're all in, the situation the country is in, and what the future portends if we get this wrong. I'm sitting here in stunned amazement over a lot of these things. But think of it. The idea that Rachel Maddow and Debbie "Blabbermouth" don't know -- and, by the way, that is entirely believable to me, that these people don't really know. Now, I'm not trying to say that they are innocent dupes. They are Marxists. They are leftists. They have every desire for what Obama's doing to happen. I'm not trying to excuse them.

What I'm saying is these people live in their own, created universe where they are elites. They, in their own minds, are smarter than everybody else (same thing with the media), and look at how stupid they are! Look at how really ignorant and sheltered they are from what real life is in this country. And it's probably the case for many elite liberals, media, and high-ranking Democrats. They're low-information flacks! They are the opposite of what their PR or the buzz or the image of them is.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: obamacare; obamamedicare; rushlive; rushtranscript
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1 posted on 08/14/2012 11:39:59 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
obamaCare has thrown Granny off the cliff already.

0bama stole 3/4 TRILLION dollars from current Medicare.


2 posted on 08/14/2012 11:59:04 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Kaslin

Last July John Conyers said something along the lines of “John Boehner and the republicans didn’t cut medicare. Barack Obama did that”

I had the quote and a film clip saved but have since lost the file. It was about July of last year. If anybody can find it, it might come in handy.


3 posted on 08/14/2012 12:21:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kaslin
I found what I was looking for. Its a different issue but may be useful

“We’ve got to educate the American people at the same time we educate the President of the United States. The Republicans, Speaker Boehner or Majority Leader Cantor did not call for Social Security cuts in the budget deal. The President of the United States called for that,”

-John Conyers July 27th 2011
4 posted on 08/14/2012 12:33:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kaslin
Some Republican PAC needs to develop a video:

Saying "remember the video about Paul Ryan throwing Granny off a cliff"?

Well ObamaCare has already stolen 3/4 TRILLION dollars from her Medicare !

Pelosi, Biden and 0bama have already thrown her off the cliff.


5 posted on 08/14/2012 12:40:18 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks


6 posted on 08/14/2012 12:40:27 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

BTW Here’s the thread with info about events that lead Conyers to say such a thing.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2756928/posts


7 posted on 08/14/2012 12:45:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
"Out of Poverty Caucus" press conference.

@ 07.27.11: "We've Had It!" Rep John Conyers Calls for Protest on Obama on Jobs 1:16

8 posted on 08/14/2012 12:53:36 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Kaslin

Shhh. Obama didn’t tell anybody yet.


9 posted on 08/14/2012 12:56:21 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: cripplecreek

5:10 41% unemployed in Detroit.


10 posted on 08/14/2012 1:03:08 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

The latest Democratic talking point to respond to this was on display the other night:

“Yes, but Ryan’s budget would keep those cuts and make them worse”.

Hmmm. Obama made the cuts, and receives no blame; but Ryan would keep those cuts, so he wants to throw grandma off of the cliff.


11 posted on 08/14/2012 1:09:13 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: Mack the knife
At a minimum, they need to STOP referring to them as
720 billion and start referring to them as
3/4 TRILLION Dollars stolen from Medicare by 0bama.

12 posted on 08/14/2012 1:20:58 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Any Democrat who voted for ObamaCare voted to throw Granny
off the cliff, when they STOLE 3/4 TRILLION Dollars from Seniors.

13 posted on 08/14/2012 1:35:57 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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