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Well, Whaddya know? Huma Abedin was a Muslim Students Association Board Member
Shoebat.com ^ | 8/15/12 | admin

Posted on 08/14/2012 11:27:44 PM PDT by Nachum

**BE SURE TO READ THE SAUDI MANIFESTO**

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Well, well, well… In addition to Huma Abedin returning to the United States circa 1996 and landing a job with both Hillary Clinton and the Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs (IMMA), she also joined the Muslim Students Association (MSA) Executive Board at George Washington University.

The following screen shot is courtesy of Wayback Machine and shows that in 1997, Huma Abedin served on teh MSA Executive Board as the Head of Social Committee.

We now know that while Huma was serving on the IMMA Board with al-Qaeda financier Abdullah Omar Naseef, she was also serving on the Board of a Muslim Brotherhood front group – the MSA – as identified by the 1991 document introduced into evidence during the Holy Land Foundation trial. Remember, that in 1997, that 1991 document was only six years old.

Remember, both Wolf Blitzer and Dana Milbank said that arguing Muslim Brotherhood infiltration has merit; Huma Abedin was a Board member of the MSA, a Muslim Brotherhood organization.

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Next we'll get the obligatory pictures of Huma with a scarf and a gun...
1 posted on 08/14/2012 11:27:51 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 08/14/2012 11:30:08 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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A beard member. I knew it!


3 posted on 08/15/2012 12:19:42 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Gene Eric

LMAO


4 posted on 08/15/2012 12:33:46 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: Nachum
Okay, kiddies. Reality check here.

I was at GWU when Humma was there. The MSA was like any other religious student organization and being elected as a board member of that student group isn't significant in any way. It's just something Muslim students did to socialize, just as the Jews did at the Halal and the Catholics did at the Newman Center.

I know for many of you, her being a Muslim is all you need to know to condemn her. But really - she's just another liberal Democrat ding-bat - and you need to stop being mouthbreathers and led around by purely anti-Muslim trolls.

5 posted on 08/15/2012 1:19:17 AM PDT by 92nina
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Alumni of the George Washington University Muslim Students Association:

-Anwar Al-Awlaki served as president of the Colorado State University MSA in the early 1990s, and as chaplain of the George Washington University MSA in 2001. In Washington, DC, he delivered sermons that were attended by two of the 9/11 hijackers and by Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan. In 2002 Alwaki fled the U.S. for Yemen, where he developed ties to al Qaeda and reportedly played a role in the Fort Hood massacre of 2009, the failed Christmas Day underwear-bomber plot of 2009, and the attempted Times Square bombing of 2010.


From: Questions about Huma Abedin
By Andrew C. McCarthy

As it happens, the same MWL that supported Abedin père’s institute also helped the Brotherhood establish the Muslim Students Association. The MSA is the foundation of the Brotherhood’s American infrastructure, the gateway through which young Muslims join the Brotherhood after being steeped in the supremacist writings of Brotherhood theorists Hassan al-Banna (who founded the Brotherhood in the 1920s) and Sayyid Qutb (the animating influence of such jihadist eminences as Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden, and the “Blind Sheikh,” Omar Abdel Rahman).

Speaking of which, it was through the MSA that Egypt’s new president, Mohammed Morsi, joined the Muslim Brotherhood. He was studying engineering in California at the time, the early Eighties. By her own account, Morsi’s wife, Nagla Ali Mahmoud, also joined. She became a leading member of a cognate outfit known as “the Muslim Sisterhood.” And it is here that we get to Huma Abedin’s mother, the Pakistani-born academic Dr. Saleha Abedin.


6 posted on 08/15/2012 1:49:04 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: 92nina

That I’m sure was true for many Muslim students, but for one with intellectual jihadist parents, I think it’s another story.

Whether or not she’s an infiltrator, she’s got too many associations of the wrong type to be in such a sensitive state position.


7 posted on 08/15/2012 2:54:16 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 92nina
I was at GWU when Humma was there. The MSA was like any other religious student organization and being elected as a board member of that student group isn't significant in any way. It's just something Muslim students did to socialize, just as the Jews did at the Halal and the Catholics did at the Newman Center.

I know for many of you, her being a Muslim is all you need to know to condemn her. But really - she's just another liberal Democrat ding-bat - and you need to stop being mouthbreathers and led around by purely anti-Muslim trolls.

Well perhaps it is high time that you started looking into that oh so innocent "social/religious organization" the MSA as well as its parent group, the Mooselimb Bros.

The first Muslim Brotherhood organization in America was the Muslim Students Association (MSA), founded in the early 1960s at the University of Illinois. MSA spread quickly across American college campus and spawned Muslim professional groups when their leaders graduated and entered professional life. The founders of most Muslim Brotherhood groups in the United States can be traced back to the MSA.

Other prominent Muslim Brotherhood groups in the United States include the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), through which the Brotherhood lobbies and 'advises' the highest levels of the US government from its office on the Capitol Hill; the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT), the funnel through which Saudi oil money is used to buy and build mosques and Islamic schools across the United States; and the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA).

The alphabet soup below is a partial list of the Muslim Brotherhood front organizations and affiliates in the United States.

• American Muslim Council (AMC)
• American Trust Publications (ATP)
• Americans for Constructive Engagement (AMCE)
• Association of Muslim Scientists and Engineers (AMSE)
• Association of Muslim Social Scientists (AMSS)
• Audio-Visual Center (AVC)
• Baitul Mal, Inc. (BMI)
• Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR)
• Fiqh Council of North America (FCNA)
• Foundation for International Development (FID)
• Holy Land Foundation (HLF)
• Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP)
• Islamic Book Service (IBS)
• Islamic Centers Division (ICD)
• Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA)
• Islamic Education Department (IED)
• Islamic Free Market Institute (IFMI)
• Islamic Housing Cooperative (IHC)
• Islamic Information Center (IIC).
• Islamic Medical Association (IMA)
• Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) • Islamic Teaching Center (ITC)
• International Institute for Islamic Thought (IIIT)
• Malaysian Islamic Study Group (MISG)
• Mercy International Association (MIA)
• Muslim American Society (MAS)
• Muslim Arab Youth Association (MAYA)
• Muslim Businessmen Association (MBA)
• Muslim Communities Association (MCA)
• Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC)
Muslim Student Association (MSA)
• Muslim Youth of North America (MYNA)
• North American Islamic Trust (NAIT)
• Occupied Land Fund (OLF)
• United Association for Studies and Research (UASR)
The first Muslim Brotherhood organization in America was the Muslim Students Association (MSA), founded in the early 1960s at the University of Illinois.

According to the Team B II Report by a who’s-who of top, national security experts at The Center for Security Policy, “most Muslim organizations in America are controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood or a derivative group.”

(http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/02/24/the-5-most-dangerous-muslim-brotherhood-front-groups-working-to-destroy-america-from-within-1-2/)

The five most prominent organizations named specifically by the Muslim Brotherhood as like-minded groups of “friends” in the mission to re-establish a global Islamic caliphate.

Listed PROMINENTLY and FIRST is the Muslim Student Association

As the Muslim Brothers “settled” in North America, they did so according to their stated bylaws. At the University of Illinois in Urbana, the Ikhwan created its first front organization in North America, the Muslim Students Association (MSA) in 1963. Today, MSA chapters are present on many college campuses across the country, serving as recruiting nodes for the MB and, in some cases for violent jihadist organizations

[O]ut of the MSA came nearly every Muslim organization in America today.

Initially, as MSA chapters sprang up on American campuses, they presented Islam in public as an acceptable alternative to other religions, never mentioning its revolutionary aspects. In recent years, MSA members have become ever more aggressive in their demands for accommodations and silencing those who oppose them. [Team B II Report]

We have seen the MSA’s Jew-hatred and silencing tactics on full display in their treatment of Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren at UC-Irvine and support for a second Holocaust at UC-San Diego. Abdurrahman Alamoudi who was arrested in 2003 for terrorist fundraising, is a former President of MSA. Alamoudi, a financier of Al Qaeda, is a compatriot of conservative infiltrator Suhail Khan. You may remember Alamoudi also for his role in starting the Roxbury Mosque. Other former members include Anwar al-Awlaki, the U.S. government’s most-wanted terrorist; Aafia Siddiqui, arrested for attempting to kill U.S. officers in Afghanistan; Ali Asad Chandia, arrested for conspiring with the Kashmiri terrorist group Lashkar-i-Taiba; and Wa’el Hamza Julaidan, founder of Al Qaeda. The Muslim Student Association pledge of allegiance, is in sync with the credo of the Muslim Brotherhood. The MSA claims 150 groups in 25 cities in America. Despite these horrifying truths, common ground with the Left in an anti-Israel agenda clearly helps to ensure the extremist MSA’s continued status as a “mainstream” organization in America by many universities giving them safe harbor for years.

As a reminder, the Muslim Brotherhood's intent as outlined in a 1993 Meeting in Phila. PA: “The 1993 Philadelphia Meeting: A Roadmap for Future Muslim. Brotherhood Actions in the U.S.”...

The Muslim Brotherhood Agenda as outlined in 1991 in Phildelphia:

The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all religions.

Still want to cling to the naive suggestion that the MSA is just "another" social/religious" group?

BTW, I am not an "anti-Muslim troll," simply someone who is more than a little concerned (as you and all Freepers should be and WOULD if you took the time to study) as to the dangers we face and we wake up and start pushing back.

Call me paranoid if you want but "it ain't paranoia if they are really trying to kill you!"

8 posted on 08/15/2012 3:36:02 AM PDT by neveralib
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To: 9YearLurker

An abject apology to Michele Bachmann will no doubt be forthcoming from Johnny McInsane and his plumpish offspring.[close sarc]


9 posted on 08/15/2012 3:37:58 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

You must be referring to daughter despickachick . .


10 posted on 08/15/2012 4:13:48 AM PDT by trailz
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To: 92nina
...just as the Jews did at the Halal

What?


11 posted on 08/15/2012 4:15:12 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: trailz

Roundish “Megaton” McInsane. That would be correct.


12 posted on 08/15/2012 4:20:13 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Nachum

So, my question is: Why marry the Weiner? Yeah, he was a Congressman at the time, and useful, but he was Jewish—a problem for serious Muslims, as well as a serious dork. She could have wormed her way into the graces of someone more acceptable to her co-religionists, one would think.


13 posted on 08/15/2012 4:51:41 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Nachum
This begs the question of how did a RADICAL like Huma Abedin get on Hilliary Clinton's staff?
14 posted on 08/15/2012 4:57:04 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: 92nina
I know for many of you, her being a Muslim is all you need to know to condemn her. But really - she's just another liberal Democrat ding-bat ...

Who married a Jewish Weiner.

15 posted on 08/15/2012 4:57:17 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o
married a Jewish Weiner

Would a person ever use another person for cover?

16 posted on 08/15/2012 5:04:37 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: 92nina

Did you attend any MSA meetings? Do you know what went on during them? Do you know what went on in the behind the scenes meetings of the leaders?


17 posted on 08/15/2012 5:12:50 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Nachum

The Moslems are feeling terribly bold recently, almost as if they see a victory on the horizon soon?


18 posted on 08/15/2012 5:25:24 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Vote for Sarah Palin, she is the cure to the disease and infection of socialism.)
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To: 9YearLurker

I have to agree with you.

Muslims are some of the most peace loving people in the world.

When they are cutting peoples heads off it’s all in the name of peace.

They don’t become violent until they are cutting your head off.


19 posted on 08/15/2012 5:37:04 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: 2001convSVT; Nachum; All
Your question is probably an answer of money. We know the clintoons would sell anything for money. Documentation, at Free Republic, suggests and proves this as fact. Personally, I tend to believe the truth is much deeper and the deeper one goes into finding the truth the more there is which is sinister and not simply money related yet in terms of taking over the United States is money related. Islamists have an agenda which is spelled out within their unholy book and they tend to be a patient foe. Being most are unaware of the agenda of moslems, most were blindsided before 911 and continue to be blindsided and/or completely unaware of the progression toward sharia. Sharia or Shariah is not the complete objective though is part of the overall plan to cause not only the United States but rather the world into compliance and acceptance of islam, in my humble opinion.

Prior to 911 something took place which caused islamists to understand that the United States and Western Culture could not be defeated with infiltration alone. The infiltration had been occurring for decades into western nations and the reports back to islamists leaders and these leaders (imho) were national leaders on the world stage determined infiltration would not be enough to fulfill their aims and agenda. Think saudis. The decision at that point, in the information flow, caused the plan to be modified and it was determined by those pushing forward an islamist agenda that attacks, on western culture, to advance the goals and agenda had become a necessary component of generating deaths in spectacular means. The infiltration was in place, the infiltration would continue. The new added component was the introduction of attacks. Money was flowing freely to the terrorists supporters and continues to flow steadily to terrorist supporter nations. A compliant western media was in place and some of it was and is owned by islamists, thus it was determined the response by western nations would cause minimal damage. The people buying the product of the islamists (oil) would continue to support their own demise (think western culture) by not using their own resources because of environmental controlists, and compliant governments which were under islamists' infiltration would return to sleeping by being propagandized via media and compliant leaders. I realize most of what I have typed is considered opinion, and will not deny it is my opinion. Many people now hold the same view. I am one of those, to tell you the truth was late to arrive, and understand how far down the path we have traveled. All, who frequent this site, know these opinions, so I have added nothing new. Seen anyone standing up in Congress to tell the truth? Yes, we did. It is a Good Day, All. May it continue?

20 posted on 08/15/2012 5:41:57 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Deceit in foreign lands for the advancement of the cause is not just acceptable in Islam—it’s a core strategy.


21 posted on 08/15/2012 6:00:24 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Eye of Unk
Per what has been the response, from western culture, if one was an islamist and looking at the lay of the battlefield, one would conclude and believe the answer to be yes, if one was/is an islamist. The victories enjoyed though are not the end of western culture, prayerfully. There is still time if western culture awakes and forms a resolve to not submit; otherwise western culture is done. The decision was always in the hands of western culture. Of course, if western culture refuses to submit, islamists have a backup plan. In war there is a constant fog. In this fog western culture has the choice of being bold or being a wimp. If western culture continues to be a wimp, the islamists will continue to grow more bold. It means when one says shock and awe, one does a shock and awe. It mean occupation of nations. It means taking away things from nations. It means being a bulldog, and then being the devil dogs, and not being a trembling puppy. The choice is to be mean and vicious, or submit to those who have shown they will be mean and vicious in all forms available. Which will western culture decide, to win and survive or submit and lose?

People decide. The islamists have decided, what will the people western culture decide? Yes, the lay of the battlefield states clearly the islamists have become more bold. Yet you already knew all I typed.

22 posted on 08/15/2012 6:04:54 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: 92nina
you need to stop being mouthbreathers

Sometimes the nose does not smell properly. Sometimes one must utilize the taste buds.

23 posted on 08/15/2012 6:14:18 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: 92nina

And the German-American Bund was just for German Americans to socialize together.


24 posted on 08/15/2012 6:21:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 9YearLurker
Deceit in foreign lands for the advancement of the cause is not just acceptable in Islam—it’s a core strategy.

I agree, but still wonder why she couldn't do better than Weiner.

25 posted on 08/15/2012 6:28:03 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

(imho) research, planning, and a meeting of the not by chance sort without the prey’s knowledge. Was weiner considered prey? A well planned out strategy, difficult to detect and nearly impossible to prove. Should someone concur this is what took place and come forward to say such, there would be a plan to bring silence to whoever spoke or simply a discrediting by compliant individuals in place for such, if a plan was being carried out or a strategy was in play. (imho) islamists are more intelligent and cunning than western culture has been led to believe. Is it possible? I have no idea. (imho) however, when viewed in the context of past history, such a plan (if a plan was made) becomes possible.


26 posted on 08/15/2012 7:18:36 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: 92nina
Okay, kiddies. Reality check here.

Uh, no.

Au contraire - The MSA was not and is not like any other religious group.

I was at USC in the late 70's and early 80's and the Muslim student union was later found out to have harbored some of the worst of the worst of the Muslim Brotherhood. This is now being proven true as some of the most despicable characters were hiding themselves in plain site on our college campuses. More and more information is coming out about this.

I completely disagree with you about this. The MSA is NOT benign, nor is the idea that this woman who has direct connections to the MB and some very nasty Saudi MB and Wahabist characters is something that can be swept away or ignored. In California there is now a very serious problem with Muslims on UC campuses attacking Jewish organizations. Michael Oren came to UC Irvine and had to have armed protection throughout his speech. Jewish kids are afraid to wear any Jewish article for fear now.

It is not Muslim bashing but a clear and present danger.

27 posted on 08/15/2012 9:17:50 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I know this is serious, but all I can think of is Humma Kavula.


28 posted on 08/15/2012 12:36:07 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: neveralib; Right Wing Assault
Here's a suggestion. Go to your local college and attend an MSA meeting and talk to some of the students there. The meetings are open to the public.

My roomate at GWU was a member of the MSA. This room mate now owns several car repair shops in NJ and the last time we spoke a few months ago, declared intention to vote Republican because Democrats are making small businesses go under.

Because about every Muslim who goes to college joins the MSA, it's inevitably going to attract people who eventually go on to become extremists.

Huma herself went through the FBI background check procedure and came out clean. There is no evidence she has influenced US policy negatively (Obama/Hillary could not be more anti-Israeli), and she would be killed by her own kind for marrying a Jew.

Her problem is that of every other staffer in the D administration; they are destroying the country. Trying to make her membership in MSA a "terrorist connection" is silly.

29 posted on 08/15/2012 12:53:50 PM PDT by 92nina
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To: Nachum
Muslim Student Group a Gateway to Jihad? "American-born Muslims are behind a growing number of terror plots -- a trend that Attorney General Eric Holder has said keeps him "up at night." Many of these homegrown jihadists once belonged to the MSA, which has thousands of members on college campuses throughout the U.S. and Canada. Student Network or Terror Factory? http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2011/March/Muslim-Student-Group-a-Gateway-to-Jihad/ Muslim Students and the Jihad Against the NYPD http://frontpagemag.com/2012/daniel-greenfield/muslim-students-and-the-jihad-against-the-nypd/ The Muslim Student Association’s Terror Problem Why do top MSA leaders keep joining terror groups and involving themselves in terror plots? http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-muslim-student-associations-terror-problem/?singlepage=true
30 posted on 08/15/2012 1:10:30 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Maybe Weiner is the one spreading these rumors around about her. He’s got to smear her good name up a bit or she might start thinking she’s too good to stay married to a digitally philandering ex-Congressman who resigned in disgrace.


31 posted on 08/15/2012 1:11:59 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: 92nina
MSA, it's inevitably going to attract people who eventually go on to become extremists.

And that is its ultimate purpose! It operates on two levels. The regular student who just wants to be with some people with similar background. Probably 99+% are in this more socially oriented group.

The second level is the recruiting level for leaders to carefully listen to who says what during gatherings. The leaders recruit the more extreme behind the scenes. They can't put ads in the paper looking for radicals. They have to find good prospects and groom them. The other people have no idea what is going on in that second level or that it even exists.

That is how the SDS and similar groups worked back in the 60s when I was in college. There were the people who thought it was cool to hang around with anti-war people, but the worst thing they did was to go to a few demonstrations and chant cute rhymes. The few others were the ones who were into havoc, violence, arson, subversion, bombing. That is how these kind of organizations work. Even the 'good-guy' agencies in this country do this kind of filtering and recruiting to find the type of special people they are looking for.

And with her family's connections, it is unbelievable to me that the FBI let her through on their own. She had to have had marching orders from above.

If I wanted a job that required special security clearance but my brother was a member of a radical environmental group or the New Black Panthers, I don't think I would make the cut. Can you imagine how helpful it would be to those groups to get inside info from an FBI agent who happens to be a brother/cousin/parent of one of their members?

Huma may be perfectly innocent but maybe not. Our naive days should have been blown away at 9-11.

32 posted on 08/15/2012 1:29:41 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: 92nina
Here's a suggestion. Go to your local college and attend an MSA meeting and talk to some of the students there. The meetings are open to the public.

Here's a suggestion: Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes. I also have friends, business associates, and former classmates that are Muslim too. They almost all lie through their teeth. They know exactly who in their midst is or was an extremist and are afraid for their own lives to admit it.

Huma has NO business being in the position she is in from her past and current association with known Muslim brotherhood extremists. Especially within her own family. We also have pictures of her with them. It is utter nonsense to think that she does not influence administration policy.

Our foolish engagement with the Taliban in Afghanistan and stupid support of the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt has led to many additional American casualties and the virtual takeover of the Egypt by the Islamists. Huma and her Mother were very much involved in support of this and it is rubbish to think that she had no role in creating the debacle we are facing.

33 posted on 08/15/2012 1:37:06 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
. I also have friends, business associates, and former classmates that are Muslim too. They almost all lie through their teeth.

And that is the end of our discussion, sadly.

34 posted on 08/15/2012 2:06:47 PM PDT by 92nina
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To: 92nina
"Trying to make her membership in MSA a "terrorist connection" is silly."

What is "silly" is equating one (Abedin) trusted to be an official of an organization such as MSA, whose parents and siblings had be immersed in similar organizations their entire life, with the recruiting targets of such organizations.

"There is no evidence she has influenced US policy negatively (Obama/Hillary could not be more anti-Israeli)..."

How long was it before the evidence against Alger Hiss surfaced?

"...and she would be killed by her own kind for marrying a Jew."

As a self proclaimed expert on the methodology of Jihadists, I'm sure you're familiar with the term "taqiyya." Well, there's nothing more certain than the "marriage" to Weiner - officiated by Bill Clinton - is not recognized by Muslims, but understood to be merely a case of taqiyya. As for the child Jordan Zain, if the "couple" didn't have a 2nd Muslim ceremony (after Weiner's conversion) I'd bet my last buck that Weiner was texting and not consummating at the time of the conception.

Finally on your "suggestions," I offer a counter-suggestion: how about trying one for the less gullible? Since you seem to have missed the hundreds of FR postings of article authored those experts who have researched these Jihadi front groups, here's a jump-start with one single paragraph.

Its from an ex-US-Attorney who has successfully prosecuted these groups, in which he cites and links an ex-Muslim and ex-official in some of these groups who has done ground breaking investigations exposing them.

From "The Islamization of Knowledge in the New Egypt" by Andrew McCarthy.

I described the MSA and its history in The Grand Jihad. Started in the 1960s, it is the foundation of the Brotherhood's American infrastructure. It now has hundreds of chapters at colleges and universities in the U.S. and Canada. The MSA’s purpose is to indoctrinate young Muslims in the thought of Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna, among other Islamist luminaries. Banna, who was an Egyptian educator, designed a plan for ground-up revolution that depends mightily on inculcating in the young the Brotherhood's interpretation of history. The idea is to train them to see current events as part of an Islamist narrative. (By the way, did I mention that Huma Abedin, Secretary of State Clinton's top aide, was an officer of the Muslim Students Association when she attended George Washington University and worked at the Clinton White House? See Walid Shoebat’s latest post here. Soon, there will soon be more to say about Walid’s remarkable investigation of the Abedin family's Brotherhood roots.)

35 posted on 08/15/2012 3:37:48 PM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix
I'd bet my last buck that Weiner was texting and not consummating at the time of the conception.

So if you don't provide any evidence for this, he can collect all your savings?

You were there at the time and have photos?

Or did Weiner text them too you?

36 posted on 08/15/2012 3:58:08 PM PDT by x
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Obviously, that bet would have to wait for history to decide. But if you can argue against the reasoning of the entire paragraph containing that excerpt, give it a try.
37 posted on 08/15/2012 4:06:56 PM PDT by drpix
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To: no-to-illegals

What can be the most powerful government in the U.S.? Fascism.

What can be the most powerful religion in the U.S.? Islam

This connection is about both power and money. Sit back and think about it.


38 posted on 08/16/2012 6:18:22 AM PDT by gortklattu (God knows who is best, everybody else is making guesses - Tony Snow)
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power and money

Do both walk hand in hand (power and money) or is money not related to power or is power related to money? We all know money is on the side of those desiring America's demise, and (no doubt) there is power in money and money in power.

39 posted on 08/16/2012 12:09:00 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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