Skip to comments.Weather Service Buys 46000 Rounds of Illegal Hollow Point Bullets: NOAA Needs Hollow Points?
Posted on 08/15/2012 7:29:08 AM PDT by CaptainKrunch
In April 2012 we learned The Department of Homeland Security has been stocking up on many millions of rounds of ammunition of differing caliber bullets, and an unknown quantity of bullet-proof booths to use on something or someone somewhere. Today we learn the National Weather Service also needs bullets, hollow point bullets to be exact.
A solicitation which appears on the FedBizOpps website asks for 16,000 rounds of .40 S&W jacketed hollow point (JHP) bullets, noted for their strength, to be delivered to locations in Ellsworth, Maine, and New Bedford, Mass.
A further 6,000 rounds of S&W JHP will be sent to Wall, New Jersey, with another 24,000 rounds of the same bullets heading to the weather station in St. Petersburg, Florida.
The solicitation also asks for 500 paper targets to be delivered to the same locations in Maine, Massachusetts and New Jersey.
The National Weather Service is is one of six scientific agencies that make up the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). Source: InfoWars
Dont get confused about this. This new NOAA ammo order is in addition to the Homeland Securitys 450 MILLION rounds, and in case you missed it, in April the DHS also ordered an additional 750,000 rounds to add to the 450 MILLION. But back to the National Weather Service order:
They’re sick of people complaining about their lousy weather forecasts.
Hey, do you think if a citizen did this, the MSM would be all over it? “What do you NEED that much ammunition for?”
Zombie attacks could be considered a type of weather....
I wonder if the administration is just buying up all the ammo to keep it out of the hands of the public.
Hollow points are not illegal. Police use them so the round stays in teh body that is shot, rather than going through and hitting innocents.
Plus, one explanation is that the NWS is arranging the ammo buy for the Fisheries division, who has armed men that board boats as police. Which does not explain why Fisheries does not buy their own.
Oh please, not this nonsense again.
The ammunition is being purchased for the Office of Law Enforcement of the Natioanal Marine Fisheries Service, which has had armed agents for decades. This is clearly stated in the posted RFP but this info has been dropped or ignored by many of the idiotic bloggers hyping this story.
A National Weather Service office is handling the procurement paperwork, but they aren’t receiving the ammo. This sort of things happens all the time within large agencies like NOAA and isn’t a “front.”
Hollow Point ammunition is routinely used by law enforcement. It’s actually safer (unless you are the person being shot) because it’s less likely to pass through the intended target.
Along with DHS, they are probably getting ready for the Nov. election.
It looks like some alternate government agency is using NOAA as a front to procure ammunition.
Since when are hollowpoint rounds illegal?
Clearly the NWS needs this to deal with climate dissenters. They are public enemies and obstacles to real change.
Looks like the citizens need to stock up and prepare for some nastiness from the government.
Make sure you know where your friendly neighborhood government employees reside.
To silence AGW skeptics.
Somehow I get this image of Katyn or some of the other atrocities perpetrated by the Nazis on the Jews and other prisoners. They would dig pits and then line up the prisoners, shoot them and watch them drop.
600,000-750,000 rounds of ammo?
They have bulldozers by Caterpillar these days . . . can dig pretty deep holes.
the only purpose of these bullets is to kill people
A National Weather Service office is handling the procurement paperwork, but they arent receiving the ammo. This sort of things happens all the time within large agencies like NOAA and isnt a front.
Hollow Point ammunition is routinely used by law enforcement. Its actually safer (unless you are the person being shot) because its less likely to pass through the intended target."
I actually do buy that. That's good enough for me.
Maybe they need them to help fight “Global Warming”
Shoot the Breeze ?
600,000 Rounds to Capitol Police!:
("The United States Capitol Police, Training Services Bureau has a requirement to procure the following Ammunitions: 1. (600) 165 Grain Gold Dot Hollow Point, 40 S&W, 1,000/Case - 53970; NOTE: Ship in 2 equal shipments of 300,000 rds each. The first delivery no later than September 30, 2012 and second delivery no later than December 30, 2012." )
Armed EPA OIG:
("SIG Sauer Model P229 Semi-Automatic Pistol (P229); E29R-357-BSS-G; Caliber .357 SIG; DA/SA old style Alloy Frame; Stainless Slide; Black Nitron Finish; DA/SA Trigger; Supplied with three MecGar twelve (12)-round magazines and Trijicon three (3) Dot (White ? Glow Green) Night Sights; Milled locking inserts; and, Manufacturer carry case. ")
So why, from an administration opposed to arms, are they stocking up like this? What are they expecting?
Awright, what movie is that from?
Thank you for your researched educational post.
Too many freepers are falling for a lot of conspiracy blogs and posting the bloggers rants, which does nothing more than paint by the media ALL freepers as right-wing nuts.
Due to a clerical error in the federal business vendor process, a solicitation for ammunition and targets for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement mistakenly identified NOAA’s National Weather Service as the requesting office, said Scott Smullen, deputy director of NOAA Communications & External Affairs. The error is being fixed and will soon appear correctly in the electronic federal bidding system.
The ammunition is standard issue for many law enforcement agencies, and it will be used by 63 NOAA enforcement personnel in their firearms qualifications and training, Mr. Smullen said.
The Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement protects marine resources and their natural habitat, ensures that many people can enjoy the resources, protects fish stocks from depletion and marine mammals from extinction, and oversees the livelihoods of commercial and recreational fishers, and the health of seafood consumers....
The thing is though, that the NYPD procured over 20 million rounds last year, the Chicago PD over 6 million rounds, ect. A police officer usually goes through 1,000 rounds a year for training purposes per weapon, higher for SWAT and other tactical teams.
Perhaps like us, these agencies are stocking up in the event of shortages? If they stock up now, then if there is a rush to buy, they won’t be caught short and have to curtail retail sales.
A bunch of pissed off sumbritches.
This Presidency is on a collision course with totalitarianism.
And we all know that the police are expert shots. /s
Sounds like an ordinary sort of purchase at Cabela’s to me.....
I, for one, welcome our new “Weather Babe” overlords ;o)
Excuse me Mr Buzzkill but we are trying to have a conspiracy here.
Invasion of the Body Snatchers!
Geez, you need to spend more time in your Mom's basement ;o)
The amount of the purchase does not strike me as odd, due to the large number of rounds used in practice. However, the wastefulness does get to me. Commercial FMJHP cartridges and other really efective defensive cartridges in .40 S&W usually go for about $1.00 per round, from my own experience. Pure FMJ cartridges in the same caliber go for only about $.28/round. Looks like the gov. could save a lot of taxpayer money by mostly using FMJ rounds for practice, saving the FMJHP for mostly actual use on the street, and only firing it on the range to see how well it would work in their agents’ weapons. They could also reload the spent range brass and save even more money.
You are right, readily available here in Oklahoma. My Walthers PK380 is loaded with hollow points.
Not a significantly large order and not everyone that works for NOAA sits in an office or TV studio. I would imagine they get into some pretty remote and potentially dangerous places.
WOW... the stupidity. The glaring stupidity.
The NOAA has a Law Enforcement Division. There are 1811s and 1812s who work for the agency.
The author of this piece went full retard.
Maybe the aliens are controlling their mind?
No real need to read past the word 'illegal'. Tactic of the left to throw in some buzz word meant to inflame people.
Since when did hollow points become illegal and when can we expect the gestapo to stop by for confiscation?
I think these are definitely "stocking up" purchases, especially when you consider the usual federal agencies' purchasing blitz before the end of every fiscal year (Sept. 30). The likelihood of shrinking budgets for 2013 and beyond is driving this, too.
Might it not be something as simple as having security guards at some of their facilities that carry pistols?
Seems like much ado about nothing to me.
I can't believe I am the first person to ask why St.Petersburg only got bullets when everyone else is getting cartridges.
In 2004, IIRC, H&K received the DHS contract for 65,000 semi-auto pistols in 9mm parabellum, .40 5W, and .357 SIG.
WAG on my part says that there are a whole bunch of office commandos that never see the light of day strutting around like Sonnie Crockett
To collect atmospheric samples with.
Last week somebody called FMJ ‘military grade’.
They're shooting at that weather station. Note how it says "bullets heading to" and not "bullets being sent to"?
And besides that, they need the ammo to punish those who deny the science of global warming.
I had a boob at work (who grew up in the DC area) tell me that I couldn't carry hollow points, because "the police don't like them." I told him that what they "like" has nothing to do with my right to keep and bear arms.
Do ya believe in AGW or not? Well, do ya, punk?
46,000 rounds and only 500 targets? Even if they ordered 500 targets for each location for a total of 2000 targets, means 23 holes in each target.
Such a perforated target is useless for real training, unless the shooter carefully marks each hole when the target is checked.
That assumes the AgencyPerson gun toter can hit the target.
Good cops don't mind at all. Bad cops probably don't like ANY of your Constitutional rights. Hell, half of them were enforced more stringently because of the actions of bad cops. So like you said, so what?