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The Social Security Administration Is Buying 174,000 Rounds Of High-Powered Ammunition
TBI ^ | 8-15-2012 | Robert Johnson

Posted on 08/15/2012 9:27:17 AM PDT by blam

The Social Security Administration Is Buying 174,000 Rounds Of High-Powered Ammunition

Robert Johnson
Aug. 15, 2012, 11:47 AM

First the DHS needed 450 million rounds of ammunition, then the NOAA requested 46,000 rounds, now we've discovered an online request at FBO.Gov calling for 174,000 rounds of ammunition for the Social Security Administration.

The request actually calls for 174K .357 hollow points that arguably have as much stopping power as any bullet out there, and hollow point to do as much damage to soft tissue as possible on top of that.

R.K. Campbel at Gun Blast mentions his experience with .357 rounds:

I observed the effect of the .357 Magnum 125 grain JHP once over the top of my own sights. The effect was gruesome. A solid hit that produced a severe blood flow AND dramatic effect from the rear, including lung tissue thrown perhaps three feet.

The 125 grain and JHP (jacketed rounds) are exactly the ones requested by the SSA and their offices of Inspector General and Office of Investigation.

The FBO has a link that lists all locations slated to receive the batches of bullets. Offices like Greensboro, NC are getting a mere 1,000 rounds while offices like Iselin, NJ are getting 10 times that number.

Alex Jones' InfoWars is quick to point out that this acquisition jibes with a DHS operation in January where the agency swarmed a Leesburg, FL social security office and posted armed guards outside the doors.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


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KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; bho44; bullets; preparedness; socialsecurity; ss; ssa
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1 posted on 08/15/2012 9:27:28 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Why?


2 posted on 08/15/2012 9:30:13 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: blam

What do they need “heavy weapons” for anyway?


3 posted on 08/15/2012 9:31:38 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: blam

That’s a head scratcher. I don’t know of any feds who still use revolvers. Anybody else know?


4 posted on 08/15/2012 9:32:08 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: PowderMonkey; Redleg Duke

Why?

So they can fall into the wrong hands?


5 posted on 08/15/2012 9:34:16 AM PDT by Lady Lucky ( 'Better than the worst' is not the same as 'good.')
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To: July4

They want to make the purchases, but not from the same account for bookkeeping reasons, and the dummies think this will keep the purchases under the radar.

What do we have will all those purchases? The *O* administration is almost better armed than our regular military and totally better armed than our state militias. Next they’ll be handing the guns and ammo out with food stamps and at the voting places. <-—sort of kidding, but not really.


6 posted on 08/15/2012 9:35:09 AM PDT by madison10 (You can ignore reality, but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: July4

Post 5 over to you! :)


7 posted on 08/15/2012 9:35:31 AM PDT by Lady Lucky ( 'Better than the worst' is not the same as 'good.')
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To: blam

When people start showing up to collect their SS checks and they get turned away because the money is gone....I guess the Feds want to be able to punish those that don’t go away quickly.


8 posted on 08/15/2012 9:36:01 AM PDT by mad puppy (Not my first choice, but I will vote for Mitt over Obama any time.)
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To: blam

I was a social security claims rep for two years in the early 70’s. I was scratching my head trying to figure out why they would need ammo.

I just remembered they do have a small criminal investigation department. I never saw or even talked to one but they do exist.


9 posted on 08/15/2012 9:36:23 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: blam

My new bride and I went into the local SSA offices last week to file the necessary paperwork to change her name.

There was a guard in the reception area when we got there. He never got up so I didn’t get a chance to see if he was carrying. He looked like a retired postal employee.

MFO


10 posted on 08/15/2012 9:36:23 AM PDT by Man from Oz
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Better stock up while you can, maybe the government knows ammo will get very scarce very soon.


11 posted on 08/15/2012 9:36:54 AM PDT by ChuteTheMall (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: blam
Social Security Administration Is Buying 174,000 Rounds Of High-Powered Ammunition

The 0bamaCare Death Panels !!

12 posted on 08/15/2012 9:37:00 AM PDT by Uriíel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: blam

What the heck? What is up with all of these gov’t agencies buying ammo?

Does not give one a very warm and fuzzy feeling.


13 posted on 08/15/2012 9:37:39 AM PDT by txmissy
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To: madison10

Ok, here’s a wacky, out there thought:

Government agencies with armed agents have been buying ammo for years and years, but people just noticed that they are doing so.


14 posted on 08/15/2012 9:37:39 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Lady Lucky

Maybe they are going to give you something other than a check some month (to control costs).


15 posted on 08/15/2012 9:38:16 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: blam

357? Revolver ammo? The fed carries revolvers?


16 posted on 08/15/2012 9:38:25 AM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: Uri’el-2012

Death panel indeed... This is why Charleston Eston said “from my cold dead hands”... will you take the guns and herd me to the death panel camp... that is.


17 posted on 08/15/2012 9:40:12 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: madison10; smokingfrog; Clint N. Suhks; MagUSNRET

“...The *O* administration is almost better armed than our regular military...”

Not even in the same city or state, let alone same ballpark.


18 posted on 08/15/2012 9:40:46 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: txmissy
What the heck? What is up with all of these gov’t agencies buying ammo?

It's the "Attention Effect"

There are a lot of government agencies with armed agents. Some are a bit odd (Social Security OIG OI) or small (NOAA's National Marine Fisheries Service Office of Law Enforcement) but they're not new, orginated by Obama, etc.

These agencies have been buying ammo for years.

basically what happened is someone not particularly bright happened to notice government solicitations are on-line at FedBizOpps (where they have been for years) and saw the large umbrella DHS purchase and then frantically started cranking out scare articles.

So now legions of people are searching Fed Biz Opps for every ammo purchase, and then posting them all over the internet.

How hard is it to understand that just because you see a lot of similar news items over a short period on an event, it doesn't mean that that event just STARTED happening or is happening in unusual numbers at the moment?

19 posted on 08/15/2012 9:42:22 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: PowderMonkey

They could be buying the .357 Sig round.


20 posted on 08/15/2012 9:42:29 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Strategerist
Government agencies with armed agents have been buying ammo for years and years, but people just noticed that they are doing so.

True that, but I would not have been concerned if the Reagan administration departments had done this, or the Bush (either), but this bunch of radical, hippie throwbacks, makes me nervous. Nixon, if I'd been old enough to care, may have been concerning.

21 posted on 08/15/2012 9:42:56 AM PDT by madison10 (You can ignore reality, but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: blam

What’s with all the bullets?

Janet Napolitano tells the Border Guards to run and hide, if they come under attack.

What’s good enough for border guards should be good enough for other government workers. When under attack, RUN AND HIDE.

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22 posted on 08/15/2012 9:43:05 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: blam

.357 is an admirable round with wondrous powers. But its use in arms is quite limited.

Maybe it’s just another genius government decision, like ethanol, or buying car companies.


23 posted on 08/15/2012 9:46:01 AM PDT by lurk
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To: PowderMonkey

Maybe it is the 357 SIG?

Meanwhile, the war is declared from within on AMerica by Zero’s bunch and the GOP lets them do it, all obedient, maybe some muttering to themselves: “it is not happening, it is not happening”.

Yes it is happening. The electorate does not think a trial is now going to be worth the money and expense... Truth is, Zero is way in over his head in this and foreign powers are going to step in his vacuum of a head, it is too tempting.

Oh, and watch for those “death wish” suicide bombing hating leftist lesbians...


24 posted on 08/15/2012 9:47:21 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Strategerist

Yeah, maybe it’s just fear mongering.


25 posted on 08/15/2012 9:48:07 AM PDT by madison10 (You can ignore reality, but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: blam

The article says .357 magnum, but the RFQ says .357 SIG.


26 posted on 08/15/2012 9:48:58 AM PDT by Biff55 (A furore Normanorum libera nos, O Domine!)
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To: hal ogen

Here’s a thread from 2008 on a LEO forum about Social Security Agents; there’s a good reason for them to be armed.

http://forums.officer.com/t105979/

“Federal law makes it illegal for anyone with a felony warrant to collect SSI or SSA benefits. Therefore SSA/OIG/OI Special Agents can pursue anyone on any felony warrant who is trying to collect benefits.”

“I worked on a serial killer case with the FBI, gun cases with the ATF, a biker gang case involving motorcycle theft with then-U.S. Customs, domestic terrorism cases, drug cases, local and state crimes, and scads of immigration-related investigations”

“Going out to interview someone in a crack-infested neighborhood, where guys are sitting on the steps at 10:00 AM sipping a 40; or spending an inordinate amount of time in HUD housing projects was an everyday thing.”


27 posted on 08/15/2012 9:48:58 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: blam

The article says .357 magnum, but the RFQ says .357 SIG. Noobs...


28 posted on 08/15/2012 9:49:39 AM PDT by Biff55 (A furore Normanorum libera nos, O Domine!)
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To: Nachum

For the list.


29 posted on 08/15/2012 9:49:50 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: blam

that looks like one of those assault revolvers whose only purpose is to kill people


30 posted on 08/15/2012 9:50:16 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Strategerist

Stop making sense.

Way more fun to pitch a fit about black helicopters and all that.


31 posted on 08/15/2012 9:52:01 AM PDT by Terabitten (I'd rather have one Walker than fourteen runners.)
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To: blam

THe picture is that of a S&W model 10 used by the Police in the past, it does not take 357 but 38’s only, I believe.


32 posted on 08/15/2012 9:52:13 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: yarddog

Perhaps it is no longer a SMALL department, with expanded new “enforcement” roles? Remember, there has not been a budget to describe these line items or expansions. Part of the plan? Police, federal. Everywhere.


33 posted on 08/15/2012 9:54:37 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: JudgemAll

It’s a model 19, K frame .357, the adjustable sights are a tip off. The model 10 had fixed sights.


34 posted on 08/15/2012 9:54:47 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: yarddog

Perhaps it is no longer a SMALL department, with expanded new “enforcement” roles? Remember, there has not been a budget to describe these line items or expansions. Part of the plan? Police, federal. Everywhere.


35 posted on 08/15/2012 9:54:49 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Biff55

THat is what I suspected, it’s for Glock 357SIG chambering. ALso the picture on the article is that of a 38... double noobs.


36 posted on 08/15/2012 9:54:54 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: TomGuy; blam; PowderMonkey; Tijeras_Slim; madison10; txmissy; carriage_hill; smokingfrog; ...
This explains it all.

Obama Civilian Security

37 posted on 08/15/2012 9:55:32 AM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Ah, my bad, then.


38 posted on 08/15/2012 9:55:45 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: CodeToad

There are other weapon platforms that use the .357 but not many. So it’s a good question...why do they have a need for this ammo?


39 posted on 08/15/2012 9:55:59 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

Thanks Army Air Corps

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


40 posted on 08/15/2012 9:56:07 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: blam

Could this also be some kind of scam to filter ammo (illegally) to rebels in Syria?


41 posted on 08/15/2012 9:59:05 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: July4
Why?

You don't think they're going to push those old people into ditches while they're still alive do you? Next they'll have an open bid for trenching equipment...

42 posted on 08/15/2012 10:03:13 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: ChuteTheMall

...”Better stock up while you can, maybe the government knows ammo will get very scarce very soon”...

Maybe they are buying up the ammo so that it will not be available for others to buy. Are they worried that Americans are going to rebel against what is coming?


43 posted on 08/15/2012 10:13:25 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Strategerist
When you verify and recognize that the Social Security administration has never purchased ammo prior to this. Or that the Dept. of Agriculture has "expanded" roles not approved or paid for by Congress. Or you recall obambalama saying we need a federal police that is as powerful as our military with extra powers in the States. Contrary to our Constitution, and trying to sidestep Posse Comitatus laws or rather provide a mechanism around them. A home guard that would be like an SA or SS of dear old deutschland. That's when.

As a historical touchpoint-- it has been posited and was a Northern accusation in treason proceedings, with some data, that Jefferson Davis (when he was Sec. of War under President (D) Franklin Pierce in the runup to (D)Buchanan who was followed by (R) Lincoln and Secession) diverted and directed ammo and mil hardware to military bases in the South. These bases were later seized with the supplies upon Secession by the CSA. Just an observation.

There are some who think the one and bidmytime-en (the moron) and DNC would love race riots, civil unrest- and enact martial law to stop national elections. So there's that, also. Patterns and reality.

44 posted on 08/15/2012 10:13:57 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Strategerist

This is a way to stir people up, in Alinsky terms, to “penetrate their apathy”.

This topic has the advantage of links to the actual document, so it really can’t be debunked by Snopes-like debunkers. The National Weather Service actually is buying ammo, and here is the document to prove it.

You and I and many others know that cops buy ammo, but I am using this topic to expand and cement my email tree. I’ll send out the links with a “hey look at this any comments” type note, then pay attention to who responds and what the response is.

I include a rational explanation like yours, so I’m not trying to merely frighten people.

So far I have over 70 new nodes in my email political network. A useful thing to have in an election year!


45 posted on 08/15/2012 10:14:09 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Strategerist
"So now legions of people are searching Fed Biz Opps for every ammo purchase, and then posting them all over the internet. "

Sensationalism sells?

46 posted on 08/15/2012 10:15:44 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

It’s for when Hussein decides to threaten not to send out grandma’s check again.


47 posted on 08/15/2012 10:18:38 AM PDT by bgill
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To: madison10
They want to make the purchases, but not from the same account for bookkeeping reasons, and the dummies think this will keep the purchases under the radar.

Bingo. Just because the money for whatever nefarious purchase is charged to the Department of XYZ doesn't mean the items purchased won't eventually show up in the Department of Hussein's Civilian Army. Same with the Stimulus monies in that who knows where untold million dollar checks went.

48 posted on 08/15/2012 10:24:24 AM PDT by bgill
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To: July4
Why?

It's not all that surprising - the government does this with a lot of items at the end of the fiscal year - they stock up for the next year (or even the year after that) with year end funds to insure the money doesn't revert to the Treasury (and save taxpayer money - horrors!)

They probably have shooting ranges somewhere and will just fill up a closet with bullets. We used to do the same thing with copy paper.
49 posted on 08/15/2012 10:26:53 AM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: PowderMonkey

Soc Sec has a private security company that uses revolvers, and it is also protected by the FPS, who use semi autos.


50 posted on 08/15/2012 10:30:38 AM PDT by JimC214
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