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Social Security Administration stocking up on Ammo!
FBO.gov ^ | 8/15/2012 | Me

Posted on 08/15/2012 10:01:08 AM PDT by JohnKinAK

DHS is stockpiling almost 1.5 billion rounds, then the National Weather Service and now the Social Security Administration is buying on short notice 174,000 rounds. You'd think DHS would have enough for everybody, but I suppose you're not a real federal agency unless you have SWAT teams, ammo stockpiles and regular practice taking on the American people.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: ammo; preparedness; ssa

1 posted on 08/15/2012 10:01:17 AM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: JohnKinAK
The Death Panels are here, now !

2 posted on 08/15/2012 10:07:37 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: JohnKinAK

wtf????????????


3 posted on 08/15/2012 10:10:07 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: JohnKinAK

What with skyrocketing sales of personal weapons and huge runs on ammunition, these must be good times for folks in the gun/sporting businesses. I know the range I shoot at bought another one, now we got 4 to choose from close by.


4 posted on 08/15/2012 10:11:40 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: JohnKinAK

If I read correctly the PDF of the latest 750M round order from DHS, these were going to be delivered over time. I don’t think it ultimately lessens the questions that need to be asked, but it does seem to suggest placing the start of the government-induced SHTF farther out than October/November, as some are predicting.

Meanwhile, it probably will push the cost of ammo up for anyone who hasn’t already stocked up.


5 posted on 08/15/2012 10:13:21 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: JohnKinAK

I personally think a lot of this is intentional propaganda.

I for one haven’t forgotten what Cass Sunstein wrote about creating and spreading conspiracy theories as a means of stirring reaction, distraction etc.


6 posted on 08/15/2012 10:13:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: dagogo redux; All

A purchase of the classic book, Total Resistance, on Amazon is probably a good idea for anyone really worried about this stuff. Get it while you can.


7 posted on 08/15/2012 10:17:19 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

All of this will make perfect sense after martial law is declared and the elections in November are cancelled.


8 posted on 08/15/2012 10:18:59 AM PDT by Dscott_FR (Right Wing Extremist and proud of it!!)
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To: JohnKinAK

I had to go to the social security office in my little town and had to walk by three armed guards and talk to an employee who was behind bullet proof glass.


9 posted on 08/15/2012 10:20:18 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: JohnKinAK

probably for whoever is protecting the lock box


10 posted on 08/15/2012 10:21:05 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: JohnKinAK

> National Weather Service and now the Social Security Administration is buying on short notice 174,000 rounds

Who are they planning to shoot? Unless the National Weather Service is launching an invasion of Iran, they plan to shoot American citizens.


11 posted on 08/15/2012 10:21:30 AM PDT by BinaryBoy (I'm anti-socialism because I'm anti-slavery.)
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To: cripplecreek

These agencies are all under 0bama’s purview. So these mass purchases could scare some 2008 0bama voters over to Romney. It’s pretty clear agitator 0bama is fomenting a class war on all fronts. Most people don’t approve!


12 posted on 08/15/2012 10:28:46 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: JohnKinAK

Just ask the media. I’m sure they’ll look into this and get right back to you on it.


13 posted on 08/15/2012 10:31:48 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: JohnKinAK

From the PDF: “.357 Sig 125 grain bonded jacketed hollow point 174 TH pistol ammunition”


14 posted on 08/15/2012 10:34:25 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: JohnKinAK; mnehring; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
When you absolutely, positively

have to clear the streets...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you need to threaten to report me to the Admin if I don’t add you to the list...

15 posted on 08/15/2012 10:37:26 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1304 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

All I know is that info like this is pretty easy for them to hide so they apparently want to advertize it for some reason.

The national weather service isn’t exactly SEAL team 6 and the social security administration isn’t much better. In fact most of the DHS is made up of desk pilots.

If any ammo is actually being bought, I’m guessing that its going to Syria or something.


16 posted on 08/15/2012 10:38:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Document “2012 .357 DUTY CARRY AMMO.xlsx” shows the quantities of ammo going to each SSA location. Manchester NH = 15,000 rounds, Los Angeles CA = 10,000, Iselin NJ = 10,000, Richmond VA = 10,000, etc..


17 posted on 08/15/2012 10:43:06 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: JohnKinAK

go to any Soc Sec office and they have a security guard at the door


18 posted on 08/15/2012 10:53:31 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: markman46
go to any Soc Sec office and they have a security guard at the door

And that means they need 174,000 rounds of hollow point?? (And please don't try to claim that they use a lot of ammo for practice.)

19 posted on 08/15/2012 10:58:50 AM PDT by Bob
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To: JohnKinAK

Soaking up supply, and driving up price.

I beat them to it.....


20 posted on 08/15/2012 11:03:29 AM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: JohnKinAK

My wife had an appointment at the local Social Security office a month ago. She said the experience was like entering an armed camp or something out of the Gestapo. We were wondering what they were protecting. Also, she felt really out of place, since she was the only person going through the security gauntlet who was born in the U.S. and spoke English as her first language.


21 posted on 08/15/2012 11:09:59 AM PDT by Ranger Warrior ("To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: markman46

all federal buildings do nowadays. I was outside the fed building taking pictures of the flags for a motion assignment and the security guard came out to watch me. Like any idiot who wanted to take a picture of a fed building couldn’t use a telefoto lense from the next block away or use their cell phone???? Give me a break.


22 posted on 08/15/2012 11:13:57 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: null and void

anyone have a list of the ammo buying by domestic federal agencies lately?

how about a comparison to those same agency buying patterns over the years?

PLEASE call your congress critter and ask them WTF??


23 posted on 08/15/2012 11:16:15 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten
I called our Representative yesterday and had them check on this. They called back to say it was a “clerical error” and the NOAA had not ordered any.

Does anyone remember in Obama’s first speech about his plans for America he described a “youth force” as strong and as well equipped as the armed services? I can't think of any other department needing hollow points. He must be moving his plan right along.

24 posted on 08/15/2012 11:32:21 AM PDT by momf (Gun, mind, power shouldn't be followed by "control"!)
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To: JohnKinAK

What the hell is the Social Security Administration doing with any guns at all?


25 posted on 08/15/2012 11:33:02 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Ranger Warrior

My experience at the Social Security office in southeast Missouri reminded me more of an old fasioned bank rather than an armed camp. (I haven’t seen an armed guard in a bank here for a long time). A pleasant older man, in uniform and carrying a pistol asked me my business and directed me to a computer screen so I could start my appointment. When my name was called I was sent back for my interview which reminded me of those prison visit scenes with the worker on one side of the glass and me seated on the other—at least there was no phone involved.

It did strike me as an awful lot of security for a place that isn’t handling cash or really anything of value. Have there been lots of cases of geezers going berserk at Social Security offices?

I will say that contrary to my expectations, everyone was very pleasant, and very helpful. (and everyone spoke English!)


26 posted on 08/15/2012 11:52:46 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: sten
Within the last 30 days:

SSA 174,000 rounds
DHS 750,000 rounds (not clear if this is in addition to or an increase of the existing 450,000 order)
NOAA 46,000 rounds
DHS 700 lbs RDX, half a ton of ammonium nitrate and Prima Sheet
DHS 450,000 rounds (plus a BUNCH of riot gear)

27 posted on 08/15/2012 12:37:20 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1304 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Domandred
What the hell is the Social Security Administration doing with any guns at all?

When The Once cuts off welfare payments the week before the election, they're gonna need 'em.

28 posted on 08/15/2012 12:39:37 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1304 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: null and void

and the beat goes on....


29 posted on 08/15/2012 12:47:20 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

La de da de de, la de da de da


30 posted on 08/15/2012 12:58:20 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1304 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: null and void; Travis McGee

What I would like to know is the history of fire arms/ammo buying over say the last ten to fifteen years of all these agencies.

I saw it posited on another forum that they are buying all this ammo to keep it out of the hands of the rabble. 0kaka wants gun control but all gun control laws get shot down, and with an R controlled Congress they’ll never get voted. I did see noise of banning internet ammo sales but that would have to be voted on too, I assume.

So therefore the easist way to keep ammo out of OUR hands is for Uncle to buy it all.

Pinging TMG for his take. Since what the heck do I know.


31 posted on 08/15/2012 1:14:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: cripplecreek
In fact most of the DHS is made up of desk pilots.

DHS claims it's making the purchase for a bunch of folks.
...all the agencies under their umbrella, including state and local police forces...

Like I stated there, it's good to see such a public admission that those forces are in fact now de facto Federal organs after all.

Who buys supplies for somebody outside of their department/company?

32 posted on 08/15/2012 1:16:27 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: JohnKinAK

15,000 rounds of .357 JHP to Manchester, NH Social Security Office? What is so special about Manchester that they got 5K more rounds than Seattle or LA?

__


33 posted on 08/15/2012 2:53:55 PM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: huldah1776

FED.GOV is afraid of the people, and has been for a long time, should have done the pitchforks and torches a long time ago


34 posted on 08/15/2012 5:27:54 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: null and void

I believe you’re missing a few zer0es on the DHS ammo buys


35 posted on 08/15/2012 7:45:17 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten
I believe you’re missing a few zer0es on the DHS ammo buys

By golly, I believe you are correct...

Within the last 30 days:

SSA 174,000 rounds
DHS 750,000,000 rounds (not clear if this is in addition to or an increase of the existing 450,000,000 order)
NOAA 46,000 rounds
DHS 700 lbs RDX, half a ton of ammonium nitrate and Prima Sheet
DHS 450,000,000 rounds (plus a BUNCH of riot gear)

36 posted on 08/15/2012 7:55:48 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1304 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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