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Gallup: No immediate bounce for Romney after Ryan VP pick
CBS News ^ | August 15, 2012 | Lucy Madison

Posted on 08/15/2012 1:09:26 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

(CBS News) Despite conservative enthusiasm surrounding the announcement that Paul Ryan has been tapped as Mitt Romney's presidential running mate, a new Gallup tracking poll shows that the presumptive GOP nominee has not benefited from any material bounce in its poll since the pick was made public.

According to the survey, 47 percent of registered voters surveyed in the four day period following Romney's announcement said they supported Romney, while 45 percent said they would vote for President Obama. In the four days prior to the announcment, 46 percent backed Romney and 45 percent backed Mr. Obama.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; 2012veep; gallup; ryanbounce

1 posted on 08/15/2012 1:09:30 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
More importantly, his numbers sure as hell didnt go down from the pick.
2 posted on 08/15/2012 1:11:01 PM PDT by chaos_5
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Given the way this poll is set up Romney would win by about five to six points if the election were held today. Around 52% to 47%.


3 posted on 08/15/2012 1:14:40 PM PDT by Patrick1 (" Let's all pray Kim Kardashian's divorce won't have an impact on her craft.")
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I'm sure that I read from Gallup just yesterday just the opposite.
4 posted on 08/15/2012 1:14:40 PM PDT by nralife (www.fireholder.com)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Which means Romney is actually ahead about 5-6 points since Registered Voter polls always track to the left.

Democrats have the edge in registered voters so Registered Voter polls always over sample Democrats. Problem for the pollsters using this flawed methodology about 40-45% of these polled will not bother to show up election day.

If Romney is winning Register Voter polls, he is kicking 0's butt.

5 posted on 08/15/2012 1:18:16 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

L.O.L.!!!....These damn stupid polls!


6 posted on 08/15/2012 1:21:11 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Berlin_Freeper

People voted with their wallets, not everyone, actually probably very few,answer polls.


7 posted on 08/15/2012 1:22:22 PM PDT by madison10 (You can ignore reality, but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I’m with holding any concern - one way or the other - until after the convention. Once Ryan sees extended prime-time coverage - polling after that will be telling...


8 posted on 08/15/2012 1:23:26 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

No bounce? Since the announcement, Romney has gone three consecutive days leading in the Gallup. When was the last time that’s occurred?

Wait until Ryan gives his acceptance speech in Tampa. Then watch the bounce.


9 posted on 08/15/2012 1:25:43 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Gallup: No immediate bounce for Romney after Ryan VP pick

Gallup is a LIB SHILL. Rasmussen has it different.

10 posted on 08/15/2012 1:26:09 PM PDT by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I saw a list of VP announcement bounces, and they range from a couple points to a dozen. So a 2 point bounce might not show up within the margin of error. No biggie, a lead in the Gallup poll looks good to me.

I’m sure there is a mushy middle out there but my sense is you have solid Obama supporters and solid anti Obama voters out there. Most of these people will not change their vote even if a candidate picks Jerry Sandusky as their running “mate”.


11 posted on 08/15/2012 1:27:57 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

A pick that fires up the base without lowering the polls is a good pick.

Also, he’s a good pick because (among other things) he’ll be good in the campaign... which means there’s a built-in long-term bounce.


12 posted on 08/15/2012 1:29:10 PM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: Berlin_Freeper

In the latest poll taken by Free Republic, gallup is still a joke.


13 posted on 08/15/2012 1:32:53 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

How does CBS define a bump? They state that four days prior to Romney picking Ryan that the race stood at Romney 46/Obama45. Then this latest poll shows Romney 47/Obama 45. That is, Obama’s number was stuck at 45 while Romney went up a percentage point. That’s a bounce in my book even if it is as small as the poll could show.


14 posted on 08/15/2012 1:35:03 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Calvin Coolidge - "Patriotism is looking out for yourself by looking out for your Country.")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Romney and Ryan are members of the two largest “churches” in the world. As a Christian, Ryan may not be able to wield enough weight to influence secret society membber, “Malibu Ken” No matter who wins the presidency, ait looks like America is doomed.


15 posted on 08/15/2012 1:36:18 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: chaos_5

There’s an effect in polling that I see over the years. There’s decent percentage of people that vote, that do not pay attention to the election until after the conventions, debates, etc.. These are soft voters who are easily influenced by their peers. Once we get closer to the election, and they see who in their life is voting for who, see what the office chatter is, etc.. Romney will begin to add % to his column and end up with a solid blowout.


16 posted on 08/15/2012 1:38:41 PM PDT by jb729
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To: Berlin_Freeper
In the end, it's still obvious that the MSM very knows that with Romney/Ryan hammering away at Obama's biggest vulnerabilities--the economy and the need to streamline the size of government to reduce the Federal budget deficit--this will essentially erase whatever lead Obama has and by the end of the Republican National Convention, Obama may be in BIG trouble.
17 posted on 08/15/2012 1:39:11 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

When did Gallup get into the comedy business?


18 posted on 08/15/2012 1:40:17 PM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Well, it was a bounce for their fundraising!


19 posted on 08/15/2012 1:42:43 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Berlin_Freeper

A cynic might say that the real headline should be “Romney Maintains Lead Despite Claims That Veep Pick is Controversial!”


20 posted on 08/15/2012 1:46:25 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Right...and Kenya is going to be the 58th state.


21 posted on 08/15/2012 1:48:27 PM PDT by moovova (OMG...Obama Must Go)
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To: jonno
I’m with holding any concern - one way or the other - until after the convention. Once Ryan sees extended prime-time coverage - polling after that will be telling...

I heard yesterday (Levin?) the Lame Stream Networks (ABC-CBS-NBC) will be limiting their coverage to one-hour per night from 10-11 pm Eastern with commentators giving their (left-wing) spin on the day's events and no doubt cut and paste (i.e. worst case video and gaffes). Don't expect any live coverage except from the cable networks (and maybe CSPAN).

22 posted on 08/15/2012 1:58:23 PM PDT by CedarDave (Palin/Ryan -- both should have been at the top of the ticket and not play second fiddle to GOPe)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; Jim Robinson
Actually, I think that Romney was looking to shore up his standing with the GOP Base rather than woo independents or the undecided. So, one would not expect to see a “jump” in the polls. He is not “liked or trusted” by most of the conservative base. They aren't voting for him, they are voting against Obama. You don't win elections that way.

Picking Ryan was his attempt to convince the “conservatives” in the GOPs base that he isn't a “liberal” and does care about conservative issues. Based upon the response I have seen here on FR, I would say he has accomplished what he intended. The base here seem to be very excited by the pick. Many have moved from being ABO to pro-Ryan (Romney wins support by default).

Now, that being stated. I agree fully with Jim Robinson that I still will not vote for Romney in the general election. I will only vote for conservatives. I see his picking Ryan as a cynical ploy to fool “lukewarm” conservatives to be excited about the ticket as Palin did for McCain. It won't work on me. However, I must admit it is working on others here. So, to give the devil his due (literally), one must acknowledge Romney was shrewd in his pick of Ryan....although I still think he is playing you all for fools.

23 posted on 08/15/2012 2:06:02 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

46 plus 1 is 47. That is a bounce even if it is a small one. If Romney wins by 15, we can thank Vice President Ryan.


24 posted on 08/15/2012 2:29:18 PM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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To: ScottinVA

“No bounce? Since the announcement, Romney has gone three consecutive days leading in the Gallup. When was the last time that’s occurred?”

Polls are a blank slate upon which the liberal media can paint any picture it likes. When it wants to shape opinion, it conducts a slanted poll (oversampling democraps or merely using adults/registered voters). When it can’t slant a poll, it simply ignores it or searches for some poll, any poll that gives the desired result. That poll is then reported as gospel. For example,Gallup has been polling just the opposite of what See B.S. reports in this story for days. Thus, See B.S. merely ignored the trend of Romney leading in the polls and spun this story. No mention of any other polls. No siree Bob, this is the only poll there is and it says Romney is in trouble. Ryan was a loser pick.


25 posted on 08/15/2012 2:49:24 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Berlin_Freeper

You REALLY think SEE-BS would write/broadcast ANYTHING favorable to a Conservative ?


26 posted on 08/15/2012 3:05:42 PM PDT by radar101
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To: Berlin_Freeper

You REALLY think SEE-BS would write/broadcast ANYTHING favorable to a Conservative ?


27 posted on 08/15/2012 3:05:55 PM PDT by radar101
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I call taking in over 7 MILLION dollars in 2 days a more accurate measure of just how much the Ryan pick means - That’s a concrete fact -

polls that are heavy on the dem sample - not so much...

Is no one questioning the varacity of the pools - or suspicioning that these are skewed as the iibs are in panic mode


28 posted on 08/15/2012 6:54:03 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does....)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I call taking in over 7 MILLION dollars in 2 days a more accurate measure of just how much the Ryan pick means - That’s a concrete fact -

polls that are heavy on the dem sample - not so much...

Is no one questioning the varacity of the pools - or suspicioning that these are skewed as the iibs are in panic mode


29 posted on 08/15/2012 6:54:33 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does....)
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To: Sola Veritas; All
If the main reason for making his pick was to cater to oh-so-smart people like you, he could have easier picked someone from Florida or other more crucial states.

I think we're seeing here is the Romney is a smart CEO - ‘hire’ people who as smart or smarter than you are to help carry the ship of state.

Say what you will, Romney is a savvy business man. This pick bodes well for future staffing - He knows how to pick competent people that he can then delegate to do their jobs.

I'm anxious to hear who he may have lined up for his cabinet. We need grownups back in the WH.

We could use a bit more of that in FR too.

Too much holier than thou. BOTTOM LINE, folks. WE get the Socialist out or we lose our county and live the rest of our lives under Socialism - and watch our kids and grandkids bent under with lives of desperation and fear...and ‘financial equality” = EVERYONE - but the elite - equally dirt poor.

If obumble gets back in - and you didn't vote to stop him - puff your righteous chest up all you want, you will be complicit in killing our country.

And don't even bother flaming me as a RomneyBot - he was FAR from my first choice. But I love my country first. Romney/Ryan is our ticket. That is what is. WE get them in - or we're letting 'bumbles win by default. Don't fool yourself otherwise. Indeed, you may not even be as omnipotent as you think. Myself, I'm putting my trust in God.

30 posted on 08/15/2012 7:40:12 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does....)
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To: maine-iac7; Jim Robinson; Kevmo; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

“Myself, I’m putting my trust in God.”

I am too. So, I guess we don’t worship the same God? The God I serve doesn’t approve of abortion, homosexuality, etc. All things that Romney is known for supporting...I leave Ryan out of this...He looks like the real deal. Oh, and I also know my God doesn’t approve of the heresy of Mormonism. So, how can I vote for someone who supports things my God doesn’t and still say I’m “trusting in Him?” Well, obviously I could not.

So, obviously we serve a different God, or you aren’t really putting your “trust” in Him as you state. I am not so foolish to jump into oncoming traffic and state “I’m trusting God.” Most would agree that is not “faith”, it is arrogant presumption outside the revealed word of God. IMO voting for a candidate, Romney, that has been rabidly for things God opposes, and than stating, “I’m trusting God.” Isn’t genuine faith, it is arrogant presumption.

Whatever, the point of my original post was that Romney was shrewd to shore up the base of the party. Even if it doesn’t work on a very small minority like myself. I realize I am a very small minority in the party.

BTW - I’m not pinging Jim to get his help. He won’t do that. I just want him to be aware of the amazing things those voting for Romney will claim to justify their actions.


31 posted on 08/15/2012 8:04:03 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas; maine-iac7

I agree. I don’t see how a christian conservative can pull the lever FOR a lying, baby-killing statist.


32 posted on 08/15/2012 8:54:51 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Sola Veritas

I would add this: Romney also picked Ryan to hide Romneycare behind the smokescreen of The Ryan Plan.


33 posted on 08/15/2012 10:33:08 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Siri: Paul Ryan 2016)
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