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Why The Screwed Generation Is Turning To Paul Ryan
The Daily Beast ^ | Aug 16, 2012 | Kirsten Powers

Posted on 08/16/2012 5:14:38 AM PDT by Palmetto Patriot

We’ve finally been vindicated: Members of Generation X have a representative who is anything but a slacker.

GOP Congressman Paul Ryan—the tireless, wonky, 42-year-old workout freak—has made history by becoming the first member of our generation to join a presidential ticket. It should come as a surprise to no one that his calling card is reforming entitlements.

We hear incessantly about how members of today’s screwed generation face the prospect of less prosperous lives than those lived by their parents. But the maiden generation to stare down that gloomy prognosis was Generation X, the tiny slice of America born between about 1965 and 1980. (Ryan was born in 1970.) We were the first generation to be told we would never get Social Security or Medicare even though we would be forced to pay into these programs.

When many X-ers graduated from college, stocking shelves at the Gap was considered a career choice, as jobs were few and far between amidst a major economic downturn. I won’t bore you with the horror show of the low-paying and miserable jobs I had for the first three years after college.

Enter Ryan. While Democrats attack his Medicare plan as “radical” and portray him as pushing granny off the cliff, young people don’t seem to be buying this caricature. Or maybe “radical” is what they want.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: medicare; pew; socialsecurity; zogby
"A Zogby/JZ Analytics poll Tuesday showed increased support among voters 18-29 for the Romney ticket, which pollster John Zogby attributed to the Ryan pick. President Obama received just 49 percent of the youth vote, versus Romney’s 41 percent. (Obama took home 66 percent of the youth vote against McCain in 2008.)

For those who think those numbers are an anomaly, take a look at Pew’s 2011 polling that found that among 18-29 year olds, 46 percent supported Ryan’s proposed Medicare changes with only 28 percent opposing (the rest had no opinion). Among 30-49 year olds it was 38 percent approving and 36 percent opposed. The strongest opposition to Ryan’s plan comes from those over 65, who ironically won’t even be affected by his plan since it would only apply to those 55 and under. Pew found that age, not party identification was the biggest predictor of how a person would feel about his plan."

1 posted on 08/16/2012 5:14:48 AM PDT by Palmetto Patriot
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To: Palmetto Patriot

We all know there are naysayers on Facebook, but frankly conservatives have a monstrous opportunity over the next few months to sell big reforms on Medicare and Medicaid, and indirectly Social Security. We can turn the massive ship of state in a big way if we can convince voters...especially younger and older voters...that we must move away from central government command and control services and move things back in control of the individual and (for Medicaid) the states. Ryan’s plans are a realistic plan. The public does not hate Medicare, if fact, they like it, we have to reshape it it make it work, reduce the future impact busting our budget and economy, and put control back in the individual. This is a fight worth 100% of our effort, and it will change our politics to know big reform ideas can win the day.


2 posted on 08/16/2012 5:24:07 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Palmetto Patriot
Many of us born before Ms Powers will be surprised to hear about the "sweet deal" we've got.

She makes some excellent points - too bad her whiny generalizations about demographic groups other than her's kinda makes her sound like an ignorant bigot.

3 posted on 08/16/2012 5:24:19 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Palmetto Patriot

I’m just back from NYC where my brother who was visiting has been in the ICU for a month (prayers please). I thought that whole side of the family was super liberal but I ate dinner with my 38 year old nephew and he is over the moon excited about the Ryan pick. My nephew is also a policy wonk, works out a lot, and extremely intelligent.


4 posted on 08/16/2012 5:27:02 AM PDT by Mercat (Necessity is the argument of tyrants. John Milton)
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To: ilgipper

Ha....just realized I wrote ‘Facebook’ and not ‘Freerepublic’ in my opening sentence. It might make more sense with the edit.


5 posted on 08/16/2012 5:29:33 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: ilgipper

“The public does not hate Medicare, if fact, they like it, we have to reshape it it make it work, reduce the future impact busting our budget and economy, and put control back in the individual.”

The public loves anything that gives them “something for nothing”. That is Medicare. They love it.

The TEA party was as much about keeping Medicare as-is in the face of Obama Care than anything else.

The unfortunate fact is that Medicare is a socialist program with no Constitutional basis and should never have been put in place and should be ended at the soonest possible moment.

But it is indeed popular, and so it will end when the government can no longer borrow money, or force doctors to work at a loss.


6 posted on 08/16/2012 5:30:12 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Palmetto Patriot

Jimmy swaggart always preached about things getting like this—back in the old days; no wonder he cried a lot....then he turned to amateur photography, and drifted off into obscurity....

semper watching!
*****


7 posted on 08/16/2012 5:32:10 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Palmetto Patriot

My 18 year old switched from favoring the Libertarian ticket to Romney/Ryan because he sees Paul Ryan as a guy who is genuinely trying to solve problems.


8 posted on 08/16/2012 5:35:41 AM PDT by vekzen
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To: trussell; Brad's Gramma; Salvation; Cindy; Mercat
Calling the Prayer Warriors to your brother's side, Mercat.

Look with favor upon Mercat’s beloved brother, O Lord, and restore him, that others might rejoice in your goodness and mercy.

Exodus 15:26 ~ “For I am the Lord that healeth thee.”

Amen and Amen ...

9 posted on 08/16/2012 5:38:12 AM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His word ...)
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To: Palmetto Patriot
I think this is a selling point we are overlooking.

When your young one first enters the workforce and looks at their paycheck and sees 'medicare' deduction and FICA (yes I know its not called that anymore) just tell them "Thats the part of your paycheck that the democrats voted to give themselves decades ago!"

10 posted on 08/16/2012 5:44:38 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: Mr. K

I remember my son looking at his first paycheck and insisting that it must be some kind of a mistake! lol!

It took him a couple of months to finally swallow that this is how much the gov’t was taking from him - he’s still miffed about it.

I just keep saying, ‘welcome to the republican party!’


11 posted on 08/16/2012 5:47:10 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Marie

Is this the Kristen Powers on Fox News.. I think it is??...Trying to tell the Rats it is not working


12 posted on 08/16/2012 5:51:32 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: skeeter
Many of us born before Ms Powers will be surprised to hear about the "sweet deal" we've got.

Dems were counting on Ryan's Medicare plan to be the poison pill that would deliver the election to them. Instead, Ryan has turned it back on them.

Obama has screwed Ms Powers generation by not addressing their concerns about having to contribute to a program that they do not believe will be there when they need it. Ryan's plan gives them hope that it will.

Ryan has also exposed the fact that Obama has screwed seniors by raiding Medicare, a program that they depend on, to fund Obamacare, a program they hate.

Perhaps that is why Axelrod appears to be so agitated lately. He sees the chickens coming home...to roost.

13 posted on 08/16/2012 5:57:30 AM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (2010 All Over Again. Make it happen. Get Busy!)
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To: Palmetto Patriot
As the figurehead of the State and an obvious marxist, Obama has screwed anyone in this country who has, does and will rely upon their own industry to make a better life for themselves.

There is only one group of people at fault here, the takers who support him and his policies. And they come in all flavors.

14 posted on 08/16/2012 6:09:19 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Palmetto Patriot
I know its not the main point of the article, but I've never understood this penchant for people to identify with a generation. Furthermore, don't the Gen X-ers get it that the term “Generation X” was invented by my fellow “Baby Boomers” as a disparagement - a generic generation that really doesn't add up to anything compared to the great and wonderful Baby Boomers?

I find arguments based on these generational definitions less than compelling. I suspect the people pushing these generational definitions are the same ones that fixated on high school cliques back when they were teenagers - they just never grew out of it.

15 posted on 08/16/2012 6:29:38 AM PDT by LaserJock
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To: LaserJock

What, you think we invented the term? No, it was a term used by Baby boomers after they turned 35 for them to say, “don’t trust anyone under 35”. Simple as that. No more, no less.

Anyways, pleased with Ryan, still not going to vote Romney, unless he steps aside for the good of America and the party and puts Ryan at the head of the ticket.


16 posted on 08/16/2012 6:39:25 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: skeeter

I think your “sweet deal” is a comparative notion. It’s not bigotry you geezer, it’s reality. :)


17 posted on 08/16/2012 6:48:47 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Marie

I remember my son looking at his first paycheck and insisting that it must be some kind of a mistake! lol!


So true , many think what they hear as a wage/salary is actually what they will keep.

Next step. Have them analyze their phone/ cable bill to see all the extras loaded in under the guise of fees.


18 posted on 08/16/2012 6:49:27 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Palmetto Patriot

I’m stoked that Ryan is the first of my generation to be running for the White House. I can say that many in my age bracket are fed up with the federal spending and entitlements. I don’t know of anyone my age who actually expects Social Security to be there when we retire. I see alot more Gen X’ers taking control of their own retirement and finances. We don’t want to be on the hook for massive government handouts. As a whole, I think the Gen X has matured into this way of thinking where the Gen Y folks are still playing video games and looking for what someone can do for them.


19 posted on 08/16/2012 6:56:26 AM PDT by MatD
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To: JCBreckenridge

You better vote for romney because it’s Ryan stepping stone from vice president to being President. Think about the future instead of cutting of your nose to spite your face


20 posted on 08/16/2012 7:02:33 AM PDT by Rodm
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To: Mr. Bird

“Sweet deal” is 1 in 4 adults under 30 living mom & pop, junior:)


21 posted on 08/16/2012 7:18:27 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
with mom & pop, that is...
22 posted on 08/16/2012 7:19:43 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Rodm

So was Palin for that matter.


23 posted on 08/16/2012 7:28:32 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: JCBreckenridge
“What, you think we invented the term? No, it was a term used by Baby boomers after they turned 35 for them to say, “don’t trust anyone under 35”. Simple as that. No more, no less.”

Point taken. :)

I also hear your point on Romney. He still has a lot of convincing to do for conservatives. I fear his establishment advisers are now saying, “Feel free to run back to the left now, Ryan has secured those hicks on the right for us.” Ryan could be a step in the right direction, or a prelude to a colossal mistake.

24 posted on 08/16/2012 7:33:50 AM PDT by LaserJock
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To: Palmetto Patriot

I cracked up at her “logic” the other day on Special Report. Her argument about Ryan’s plan was “those under 55 will be old one day and will be affected.” Somewhere between being told those people would have a choice before they got old and what they were facing right now went right above her head. It amazes me how the left can rationalize anything they don’t agree with.


25 posted on 08/16/2012 7:38:29 AM PDT by bamagirl1944 (That's short for Alabama, not Obama)
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To: Marie
It took him a couple of months to finally swallow that this is how much the gov’t was taking from him - he’s still miffed about it.

Want to focus taxpayers in general on how much the gov't is taking from them?

Do away with withholding.

Give everyone their gross earnings in their paycheck.

Make everyone write checks to the gov't at the end of the month.

Make sure there are one each for income tax, social security, and medicare.

See how long people put up with big government after that.

26 posted on 08/16/2012 7:48:05 AM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (2010 All Over Again. Make it happen. Get Busy!)
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To: LaserJock

If I’m wrong, and Romney happens to govern in a conservative fashion, and rollback Obamacare etc, then I’ll happily admit that I was off.

But, I don’t think I’m wrong. And I can see progressives within the party stabbing Ryan in the back if they lose. If this ticket loses, do you think that Ryan is going to pull off a Nixon?

No, and that’s the problem. Sure, its great that they have a conservative at VP - but it’s a position with absolutely zero power, except to act as a scapegoat.

Do you really want Ryan’s prospects in 2016 to be the same as Palin’s in 2012? I don’t. I’d much rather Romney chose someone like Pawlenty.


27 posted on 08/16/2012 7:48:55 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: skeeter

When you compare the size of the Baby Boom generation to the size of the Gen X generation, and the fact those entitlements will be ensured....I’d say sweet deal in comparison to possibly paying in and getting nothing...though I guess it’s like saying antifreeze tastes sweeter than motor oil.


28 posted on 08/16/2012 9:21:00 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Crimson Elephant
I get your point, but I paid in, will not get out, and am a (latter phase) Boomer.

As a long time conservative who's voted in every possible way for smaller less intrusive government the generalization kinda irritates me. Its counter productive.

29 posted on 08/16/2012 11:31:38 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: trussell; Brad's Gramma; Salvation; Mercat
Update on prayer for mercat’s brother, Jim ...

>>>This morning the doc was saying his condition was “dire” and to expect only a few more days. But now he has rallied and tomorrow they believe he will be strong enough for them to do the tracheotomy which is great since that’s a step towards his recovery. Thank you all for your prayers and keep it up. It’s working.<<<

Praise God ... Psalm 30:2 ~ “O Lord my God, I cried to thee for help, and thou hast healed me.”

30 posted on 08/17/2012 8:10:05 AM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His word ...)
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To: Pegita; 4woodenboats; abletruth; Accountable One; Aeronaut; AKA Elena; Alamo-Girl; AlGone2001; ...

Prayer warriors, please see post 30 for a prayer need update.


31 posted on 08/17/2012 10:00:56 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: Pegita; Mercat; trussell

Prayers for Jim to get the procedures needed to help him heal and recover.


32 posted on 08/17/2012 10:05:16 AM PDT by LUV W (Debating the foolish brings no benefit.)
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To: Pegita
Praise God!!! Thank you for the update. Prayers continue...
33 posted on 08/17/2012 10:14:59 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Palmetto Patriot
Dolan: Ryan Is a ‘Great Public Servant’ (great insight into Ryan's views)
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Paul Ryan: Midwesterner, Catholic, intellectual
34 posted on 08/17/2012 5:38:24 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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