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Seven American Soldiers Die in Afghan Chopper Crash (R.I.P.)
http://www.allproudamericans.com/Seven-American-Soldiers-Die-in-Afghan-Chopper-Crash.html ^

Posted on 08/16/2012 6:21:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz

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To: 5 Second Rule

WTH is going on here? “President Bush shouldn’t have started this war”? “The country would have been better off if President Bush would have done nothing after 9-11”?

Anybody here at FR remember exactly who started this war? IIRC WE WERE ATTACKED. So now you all think we should have just sat on our asses and not “waste precious blood”.

As a retired soldier and current government contractor I can fully appreciate and agree with condeming the PC Bullshit that has corrupted our mission and conduct of operations. I can and will call out the current POSHMFIC and the limp-wristed Pentagon Rump Rangers who care more about world opinion than accomplishing the mission.

But I’ll be Goddamned if I’m going to sit idly by and listen to a bunch of handwringers whine about why we’re there! We need to rain such hell on the terrorists in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and anywhere else they hide that they beg for mercy. We need to cut all ties with any country that aids and abets such vermin. But we do not need to ever question why we are there.””

Thank you. I don’t need to add anything, but ditto for me.


51 posted on 08/16/2012 1:39:45 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Get the job done,the war won, and get our soldiers out of there and let them come home....They are not trying to win the war...they are trying to appease the people there and the politicians here..ABO


52 posted on 08/16/2012 3:44:31 PM PDT by rxtn41
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To: 5 Second Rule

Can’t agree. Bush blew an irreplaceable opportunity in his failed response to 9/11. The Taliban didn’t provide financial support, but merely allowed them to operate in some relatively isolated areas. Following 9/11 the entire leadership and the vast majority of the alQ fighters were located within those camps.

Our response should have been simple and succinct: “You have 12 hours to turn them over, or we go get them”.

When the 12 hours expired, our actions should have been quick and deliberate. The public wouldn’t have tolerated a nuclear strike, but our buffs could have carpetbombed those remote camps into dust. We didn’t need to invade, we just needed to exterminate. We didn’t need to deal with all of Afghanistan, but just incinerate the relatively small areas containing the group that actually attacked us. A few bombing runs over Kabul would have reminded the Taliban that you don’t f*** with the United States, but the Tali’s shouldn’t have ever been anything more than secondary targets. This “nation building” and “driving out the opressors to bring liberty” crap just sacrificed the lives of thousands of our best and brightest. And for what? So a bunch of dirty goatherders can continue to stone women and spread Sharia?

No, it wasn’t worth it.


53 posted on 08/16/2012 3:56:05 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: Lazamataz

A few years ago my U. S. Army CSM nephew linked me to an Army website dealing with casualties and their causes.
Among army personnel posted in training and other non-combat situations in the CONUS accidental helo crashes during training exercises and routine flights for other purposes ranked highly and close to the other principal cause of fatalities, which as I recall was privately owned motor vehicle crashes while off post on what in Navy palaver is called “liberty.”
Am I correct in deeming helicopters inherently crash prone? Fixed wing aircraft seem born to fly; helos not so much, in my admittedly inexpert opinion.


54 posted on 08/16/2012 4:21:08 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: KingOfVagabonds

>>>>>>>>Afghanistan has been referred to as the “graveyard of empires” for good reason (Soviets, Brits, now U.S....)>>>>>>>>

Afghanistan itself is not a problem. Every idiot who has a will to win may win a war there.

The problem is at some point invader understands both these land and people doesn’t worth efforts to even hold a foot there.

Afghan society is a snake pit and it was like that for all known history. You don’t have to point a gun at them or carpet bomb them to make them hate you.

Share meal with them or treat their wounds or build them home and they’ll always find you did something in an insulting manner in process to find excuse for hating and killing you.


55 posted on 08/16/2012 5:08:02 PM PDT by cunning_fish (.)
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To: Lazamataz

Lord, rest those who died with the angels and comfort their families.

In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, amen.


56 posted on 08/16/2012 5:51:08 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Lazamataz; driftless2

Hey, Drift. Obama is a MASS MURDERER.


57 posted on 08/16/2012 6:49:59 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Ask me)
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To: 5 Second Rule

If we were there to do the things you’ve said I don’t think anybody here would be questioning why we’re there. And under Bush it might have been more like that - considering that Rumsfeld told Karzai that they could either help in the war on terror or could become a glass parking lot...

But it seems like under Obama we’re just there to drain our supply of money, ammunition, and patriotic and brave soldiers - who are ordered to be sitting targets for crazy people who will never accept the idea of letting diverse people live in peace and minding their own business.

The ones who WOULD side with us have quickly learned that the USA can’t be trusted to protect their allies. I watched the OPSEC Youtube video “Dishonorable Disclosure” today, and it mentions that when the administration leaked the details so that the Pakistani doctor who helped them locate Bin Laden, it destroyed any chance to get help from people who would otherwise consider helping us. Siding with the US when our Usurper-in-Chief (my words, not theirs) can’t be trusted means certain death for these people.

I agree that we had to go after those who perpetrated 9-11, and after all those who are planning acts of war against America. Unfortunately, Obama himself is an act of war against America, and everything he touches will ultimately be used to destroy what we have. The enemy has infiltrated our White House and by controlling our military has sabotaged what was otherwise an important and worthy mission.


58 posted on 08/16/2012 7:40:22 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: PghBaldy

It would be the least he could do so he probably won’t even do it.


59 posted on 08/16/2012 7:45:34 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Lazamataz

God rest the souls
of the fallen American heroes.
It's time to Bring. Them. All. Home!

60 posted on 08/16/2012 8:24:33 PM PDT by LUV W (Debating the foolish brings no benefit.)
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To: 5 Second Rule

What you said!!!


61 posted on 08/16/2012 8:34:13 PM PDT by LUV W (Debating the foolish brings no benefit.)
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To: Lazamataz

“MMfA Slams SEALs as ‘Gutless’ Same Day As Two Die In Afghanistan” (media matters)

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/08/18/MMfA-Slams-Navy-SEALs-As-Gutless-Same-Day-As-Two-Die-In-Afghanistan


62 posted on 08/16/2012 8:51:17 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: carriage_hill

Bump that, and May God avenge their blood.


63 posted on 08/16/2012 8:51:51 PM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: onyx

We “won” in Afghanistan in the first 6 weeks - it a was brilliant effort - but we left the tribal leaders in power.

Even now, today, if we resolved to torch every poppy field we’d rob the war lords of their power. Not really hard to find the fields between the miles of rocks and dirt.

The fact that we haven’t means we are not in it to win it.


64 posted on 08/16/2012 10:01:41 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Tunehead54
Note to self: Turn the poppy farmers into miners ...
The country's natural resources include: coal, copper, iron ore, lithium, uranium, rare earth elements, chromite, gold, zinc, talc, barites, sulfur, lead, marble, precious and semi-precious stones, natural gas, and petroleum among other things.[57][58]

In 2010, US and Afghan government officials estimated that untapped mineral deposits located in 2007 by the US Geological Survey are worth between $900 bn and $3 trillion.[59][60][61]

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan
65 posted on 08/16/2012 10:08:10 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: rlmorel
You may find these WW2 pics of the Battle of Normandy very interesting. The pics are supposed to have been taken just a couple of days after D-day. So they don't show the destruction of the big tank battles that happened soon afterwards.

http://acidcow.com/pics/3772-normandy_1944_then_and_now_204_pics.html

My only comment, we, the Infidel (Christians, Hindu, Buddhists, Jews et al.), will always be the enemy of the Muslims. They may consider us a friend today but not for the long term. We were not the enemy of the French, the Belgians, the Dutch, etc. during WW2.

66 posted on 08/16/2012 11:05:54 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. TY)
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To: butterdezillion

I have searched on the WH website and in news articles, and have found no comments from Obama about these deaths...


67 posted on 08/16/2012 11:06:21 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: nathanbedford; ScottinVA; Greysard; Lazamataz

Stop being anti-American pacifist liberals.

The Taliban hosted, trained and funded Al-Qaeda which attacked us on 9/11.

Our objective in Afghanistan is to deny sponsorship, support and sanctuary to terrorists.

That is why we are trying to build a sustainable Afghan government.


68 posted on 08/17/2012 1:24:57 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

Pacifist liberal??? I`ve been supportive of that effort for 10 years, but tell us..please.. who has ever been successful there?

My point is.. either fight the war with the shackles off or get the eff out of that God-d***ed meatgrinder. A hardly “liberal” position.


69 posted on 08/17/2012 2:36:42 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: moonshot925

Pacifist liberal??? I`ve been supportive of that effort for 10 years, but tell us..please.. who has ever been successful there?

My point is.. either fight the war with the shackles off or get the eff out of that God-d***ed meatgrinder. A hardly “liberal” position.


70 posted on 08/17/2012 2:37:02 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: nathanbedford

>> Could someone kindly identify the strategy and the national interest which it advances for which these seven Americans died?

These brave, selfless Soldiers died serving the U.S. Constitution. Their sacrifice is as meaningful as that given to the most critical missions.

Of course, you’re not questioning the virtue of their service, but it is certainly worth discussing the incompetence of the jackwagon in charge.


71 posted on 08/17/2012 2:47:49 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: moonshot925

Tell us, moonshot, in your opinion, is the current Tack of negotiating with the Taliban anything BUT pacifist and liberal? How about defending a thoroughly corrupt POS like Karzai who would turn to the other side if the price is right? Are you good with the ROEs that result in our troops facing having a bullet put through the backs of their heads the second they turn their backs on an Afghan cop or “soldier?” How about those rules that require our guys NOT to fire on enemy vermin planting IEDs?

After 10 years in that 8th century hellhole, is it not reasonable to expect more of the people who benefit from all this nation-building?


72 posted on 08/17/2012 2:51:35 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: nathanbedford

BTW, the CiC factor is a fundamental concern for me this November. This too must be weighed by Romney’s antagonists — and I say this, FRiends, with all due respect and dedication to Life and Liberty.


73 posted on 08/17/2012 2:52:19 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Chgogal
Thanks for the link...I have seen those before.

The point I make is that there was a difference...this is the city of Wesel in Germany after a raid:

When we were working our way towards Germany through the conquered countries, we didn't send in the B-17's to demolish a non-German city because there were Germans in it, we went in and rooted them out, door by door. And we DID destroy large areas of many of those cities via tactical actions.

But in general, we value life. Sure, we make mistakes. We bomb the wrong targets, politicians make bad decisions and so on, but we try. And individuals and even units can have malignant intentions and do things that we as a people and our government don't support. We don't advocate as government policy the wanton destruction of innocents.

And I am glad we do. The Nazis razed cities of innocents and "invented" total warfare. The Japanese raped cities such as Nanking in their quest for territory. The Vietnamese Communists slaughtered five thousand (Hue) to make political points as a matter of deliberate policy. The Soviets thought nothing of sending in squadrons of SU-25's to eradicate entire villages.

Their actions during wars of conquest in this short period of history show those regimes for what they really are. When we engaged in total warfare to destroy the war capabilities of countries that were executing campaigns of conquest, we did it without mercy, since we knew what it would be like if they had the opportunity to do the same, because we had already seen what they do. But when we were done, we not only didn't keep that territory, we used our OWN money to help rebuild them.

When the first nuclear device goes off in an American city, or there is a more deadly and costly 9/11, the rules may well, and should change. At that time, we may see the indiscriminate use of nuclear weapons or strategic bombing against civilians by our forces in the 21st Century.

And I won't disagree.

But history can say without reservation that we tried an incremental approach to see if the issues could be ameliorated without resorting to total destruction, and it did not work, and we did what had to be done.

And I do understand your last paragraph in your post. I won't disagree with it, and there may come a time when the world treats Islam as the world used to treat piracy. I just don't think we are there yet.

74 posted on 08/17/2012 3:27:07 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: ScottinVA

Negotiations with the Taliban were ended in August 2011

We are winning this war and now is not the time to cut and run like cowards.

In the past 18 months we have killed Osama bin Laden, Abu Hafs al-Shahri, Atiyah Abd al-Rahman, Anwar al-Awlaki, Fazul Abdullah Mohammed, Ilyas Kashmiri, Abu Yahya al-Libi and many other top AQ leaders.

We will probably kill Ayman al-Zawahiri soon as well.

AQ leadership has been decimated.


75 posted on 08/17/2012 3:36:02 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925
No, negotiations with the Taliban are still ongoing.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/afghans-met-taliban-leader-in-pakistan/story-fn3dxix6-1226449512112

http://www.france24.com/en/20120813-afghanistan-officials-talks-jailed-taliban-commander-pakistan-prison-baradar

Winning the war?

Well, after more than 10 years there, what do you consider "mission accomplished?" The best test of that theory will be when our troops leave. I give Karzai all of 30 minutes before the Taliban catch up to him.

What kind of "nation" do you think these vermin are capable of maintaining, beyond what they have now?

76 posted on 08/17/2012 4:41:50 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: PghBaldy

Only Obama could go lower than zero on the scale of class. It was the least he could do so he did even less.

That about sums him up.

Our soldiers deserve SO SO SO much better than this.


77 posted on 08/17/2012 4:41:59 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
I hope Romney has a plan to get out of the loosing battle and save our Soldiers.
78 posted on 08/17/2012 4:46:07 AM PDT by angcat (Without Valor there is no hope.)
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To: bigheadfred

He’s an awful president, but no mass murderer. Let’s see your proof.


79 posted on 08/17/2012 4:58:08 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: nathanbedford

Whether it’s Barry The Destroyer of Mittens we ain’t leaving Afganistan. Same thing for Iraq. The first thing that was built in Iraq was a billion dollar US Embassy. No folks, get ready for long tours with the family in Iraq. Afganistan will be a 12 month tour and at your newcomers briefing you’ll be told how the Afganis don’t really like you so be on the lookout. Female soldiers will be told not to wear shorts or an Iraqi or Afgani will pinch them on the rear and if you open your mouth about it you’re the one that will get in trouble. It ain’t a nice place. If the good Lord ever wanted to give the world an enema he would plug it in the Middle East.


80 posted on 08/17/2012 6:52:18 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: chessplayer

This SOB should be waterboarded.


81 posted on 08/17/2012 6:56:21 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: rlmorel
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My mother was a 16/17 year old in Berlin during the Allied Bombing and the Russian/British/French/American occupation of Berlin. Yup, by some miracle she survived the Russians.

My father lived just a few miles away from Arnhem during Market Garden.

The Yanks were/are considered Heroes by both sides. Russia was hated by the Germans and hoped America would reach Berlin first. The US during WW2 was never really worried about civilian casualties as they are now. Look how the Muslims react when errors are made by the Coalition Forces in A-stan? Look how we make amends with our tail between our legs almost immediately. Look how the female Soldier has to wear the Hajib while on duty in A-stan? The difference between then and now, The Coalition Forces made sure the enemy (Germany and Japan) knew it was defeated completely (physically and emotionally). Now we leave the impression that the enemy survived just enough to fight another day. So, after a few months/years they are back to fight another day.

82 posted on 08/17/2012 8:12:57 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. TY)
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To: Chgogal
http://www.moonbattery.com/hijabs-on-american-soldiers.jpg
83 posted on 08/17/2012 8:20:58 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. TY)
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To: LibsRJerks

Yes, reset coming. It is going to be rough though.


84 posted on 08/17/2012 8:23:24 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Chgogal
"...The US during WW2 was never really worried about civilian casualties as they are now..."

That is true, because of two factors: it was understood in total warfare that innocents were hurt even if not targeted, and there wasn't a network of people with video cameras who were looking for propaganda material (THAT would be ABC, CBS, NYT, etc)

"...Look how the Muslims react when errors are made by the Coalition Forces in A-stan? Look how we make amends with our tail between our legs almost immediately. Look how the female Soldier has to wear the Hajib while on duty in A-stan? The difference between then and now, The Coalition Forces made sure the enemy (Germany and Japan) knew it was defeated completely (physically and emotionally). Now we leave the impression that the enemy survived just enough to fight another day. So, after a few months/years they are back to fight another day..."

I agree with most of this, except for the characterization of the enemy. I don't believe most Afghans were the enemy, as their only crime for the vast majority was to have the Taliban living on their land, and they couldn't get stand up to them. In Germany and Japan, the populace was actively and positively engaged in the warmaking capability, just as ours was, from picking up pieced of tinfoil and metal to recycle, to building tanks. They became targets.

It is a different world today, no doubt.

85 posted on 08/17/2012 8:49:19 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: 5 Second Rule

Well said. America would not have sat by while the President did nothing in response to 9-11. I was overseas when it happened, and have been back several times. I know intellectually and emotionally that the only language folks in that part of the world understand is OVERWHELMING POWER! If a portion of the population doesn’t want to concede to what circumstances are communicating to him, you inflict more damage and pain until he does. Ive been thinking to myself...”there has got to be a reason that Sun Tzu is still on my recommended reading list????” “Thus the expert in battle moves the enemy, and is not moved by him.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War,


86 posted on 08/17/2012 9:38:10 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: nathanbedford
"Could someone kindly identify the strategy and the national interest which it advances for which these seven Americans died?

Yes, it's the politicians playing war as enhanced means to justify their existence, got a big army may as well keep it busy, gotta keep that military industrial complex fighting "wars" with no intention or goal

our government is completely idiotic

87 posted on 08/17/2012 10:59:39 AM PDT by KTM rider
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To: napscoordinator
exactly

no war will ever be won by "winning hearts and minds"

wars are won by blowing minds so bad they will never even think about fighting again

88 posted on 08/17/2012 11:03:27 AM PDT by KTM rider
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To: KTM rider

Agreed. Politicians always like a good war on their resume while they sit back in their secure war rooms. If only the first wave of attack was made up of politicians and their staff and families we wouldn’t be frittering away our country and its young lives like we’ve done.

Get us out of the Middle East altogether and let each of those countries all figure out how they want live and get along with each other. It isn’t our job to be protector and policeman. We don’t need their oil and we don’t need their constant problems. But we do need to fix the USA.


89 posted on 08/17/2012 6:53:18 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: allendale

Laptops don’t control opiates or secure the ability of the royal kleptocracy to build pipelines and such.

http://www.amazon.com/Anglo-American-Establishment-Quigley-Carroll/dp/0945001010

Same Ol’


90 posted on 08/18/2012 8:48:43 PM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: Neoliberalnot

>>Anybody here at FR remember exactly who started this war?

Yeah.

ZBig is the POS whose policy funded and instigated the Islamic Revolution of 1979.

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&biw=1600&bih=706&source=hp&q=Brzezinski+Cyclone+Iran+Shah+"George+Ball"+1978

91 posted on 08/18/2012 8:51:55 PM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: ScottinVA
Ten years ago, I could've ID'd it. Now, I have no earthly idea WTF we're doing there.

Ten years ago, the majority of us knew that we would be in Afghanistan for many years to come. The British and the Russians learned it the hard way, and we have as well.
92 posted on 08/19/2012 3:50:22 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: rlmorel; 5 Second Rule
Thing is, many of these people screaming longly and loudly about us being there at all are the same people who would have screamed longly and loudly had we done nothing.

I respect and value what our military have done and have tried to do over there. What they have done is right, and it reflects well on us that we have tried. We haven’t done it well in some cases, and we have done it poorly in some cases.

But I don’t, and never have subscribed to turning the place into glass. As an American, I can be proud to say who I am and where I am from.

As you said, if it weren’t for 9/11, we wouldn’t have been there in the first place. I understand and appreciate your sentiments, though it seems few others do.


Amen to that. It pains me that we are still there, mainly because my son is in Afghanistan, and little did we know in 2001 that 10 years later he would be there, but it is what it is. We knew it was not going to be easy.

It bothers me that many people think we can just jump in and out of war, it says a lot about whether they served or are paying attention to the world at large.

If it was going to be quick and easy, our folks would have been in and out before Bush left office, and to come back and to now be against the war in Afghanistan simply because a democrat is in the White House is ridiculous. We fight them over there or we fight them over here. We'd like to wave a magic wand and have everything wrapped up nice and neat, but it's not going to happen that way.

If we pull out now, the Taliban ultimately wins, and they will be able to focus on killing Americans in America once again, and then the government can use the attack to strip even more of our freedoms away, while sending another generation off to fight.
93 posted on 08/19/2012 4:00:29 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Thanks for saying so. I understand why people take the stance that they would like to just blow up everything, I get it. I understand the anger.

But in the real world, it isn’t the answer. I will keep your son in my prayers, af_vet_rr.


94 posted on 08/20/2012 8:31:17 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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